Start Haywood in Game 2

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

I've never seen someone play like such a weak little pussy as I saw from Tyson Chandler's piss poor display. I had Dampier/Bradley flashbacks.

Haywood, meanwhile, played like a center with a set of balls who won't let Mike Miller and fucking 60 year old Juwan goddamn fucking Howard pound him in the ass all night on the boards.

Starting Haywood is a win-win. Haywood gets a boost since he's being rewarded for playing like a man, and Chandler gets motivated to not be such a little bitch out there.

[cheguevara]

why? different bigman, same result. Series is over.

[HeatChamps]

No matter what the Mavs do, they are just overmatched by a far superior team.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

:lmao 4 rebounds by the guy who was the biggest dude on the court.

[DPG21920]

You don't make wholesale changes in the finals when your team was in the game and did plenty of things well.

[endrity]

True!

I think it's the battle on the boards that cost them, they gave out 10 extra possessions to Miami. That's huge in a game like this. They did more than enough on both offense, and especially defense, to win the game even with all the wide open shots that Terry and Peja missed. Chandler but also Dirk have to fight harder down there. And Haywood seemed more determined than Chandler out there.

[Josepatches_]

Haywood didn't play much better

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

You don't make wholesale changes in the finals when your team was in the game and did plenty of things well.

:lmao wholesale changes? I'm talking about exchanging one starting caliber center for another.

was it "wholesale changes" when the Mavs decided to start Devin Harris in Game 2 of the 06 WCSF?

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

Haywood didn't play much better

Bullshit he didn't. He was far better defending the paint, and he could actually grab a fucking rebound over fucking Mike Miller of all people.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

No matter what the Mavs do, they are just overmatched by a far superior team.

:lol okay.

Mavs played like complete shit and only lost by 8.

They got the shots they wanted, they broke down Miami's defense, but they missed open shots. Wide open shots, all game long. What happens when those shots start going in?

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

If Dallas gets the rebounding edge they're supposed to have in this series, and their shooters don't fuck things up royally like this game, then Dallas is the better team.

But never underestimate the heart of a choker.

[HeatChamps]

:lol okay.

Mavs played like complete shit and only lost by 8.

They got the shots they wanted, they broke down Miami's defense, but they missed open shots. Wide open shots, all game long. What happens when those shots start going in?
:lol at Dallas getting the shots they wanted. Miami's defense was stifling. It's already over.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

Miami's defense was stifling.

:lmao

Yeah they really shut down Peja with the 6 feet of space he got for every 3 pointer. Barea getting like 5 uncontested shots in the paint that he missed was really a credit to that shutdown D too.

[Leetonidas]

It's going to be scary when the Heat actually put some decent players around the Big 3. Just having Wade and LeBron makes them by far the best perimeter defensive team in the league and the best overall defensive team and this is with Bibby, Anthony, and Bosh (he's not horrible but he's not great) starting. :wow

[DPG21920]

:lmao wholesale changes? I'm talking about exchanging one starting caliber center for another.

was it "wholesale changes" when the Mavs decided to start Devin Harris in Game 2 of the 06 WCSF?

Yes, taking Tyson out for Haywood (who played well) is wholesale. That is arguably the second most important starter who got you to the finals.

[Isitjustme?]

Bullshit he didn't. He was far better defending the paint, and he could actually grab a fucking rebound over fucking Mike Miller of all people.

They could play them together some. Play TC at the 4 when dirk sits and that would get Haywood more minutes. Wouldn't send any message to Chandler though.

[stretch]

TC does need to step up more. He played like a poon last night. He seemed just too afraid of picking up fouls.

Fact is, the Mavs defended Miami better than Miami defended the Mavs. Mavs got exactly what they wanted... they kept the paint well guarded, and forced Miami to win with jumpers, which isnt going to happen that frequently. On the other hand, Dallas was able to get ANY shot they wanted, but didn't shoot well at all. Dirk I expect will be more assertive in G2, and I doubt Barea is going to miss all those chippies again. And I don't expect Bron and Wade to keep shooting over 50% from 3. If Dallas keeps playing defense like they did last night, and just knocks down their open shots like they have been doing all post-season, they will be just fine.

[Killakobe81]

Bullshit he didn't. He was far better defending the paint, and he could actually grab a fucking rebound over fucking Mike Miller of all people.

Haywood was much better on defense (surprisingly) than chandler on last night. But ...

1. He sucks on offense. at least Chandler converts alley-oops ...
2. He missed a wide open dunk. Not on the run, not on the move, a wide open dunk by a 7 footer in the paint ...shiiiiiiiit. Fuck a haywood ...
3. Keep in mund he was playing mostly against the Heat bench, when all 3 of the Heatles were NOt on the court together. If he starts he aint facing Mike Miller at SF ...he is protecting the rim against Lebron.

[ambchang]

Whoever wins the rebounding edge wins this series. Game 1 proved that both teams defend extremely well. Mavs, with their size advantage, should win the rebounding side of things, but from what we saw in Game 1, that was not the case.

Also, Miami is crowding the lane, the intent is to shut down the Mavs mid-range game, and box them out. Once Mavs hitting their outside shots, it will force the Heat to defend out further, opening up the middle game for Dirk, and allowing the Mavs to get some offensive rebounds.

The series is not over.

[stretch]

Miami is going to win the rebounds in this series, with the Mavs playing so much zone. Mavs just need to minimize the rebounding deficit.

[Bill_Brasky]

Mavfan is hilarious. If dallas plays good defense, they give credit. But when miami plays good defense, it's ":cry:crythey got the shots they wanted but missed:cry:cry".

Lol thinking jumpshooting teams can win a title.

[stretch]

Mavfan is hilarious. If dallas plays good defense, they give credit. But when miami plays good defense, it's ":cry:crythey got the shots they wanted but missed:cry:cry".

Lol thinking jumpshooting teams can win a title.

Did the Mavs not have a lot of good looks and layups that they normally make?

Try watching the game and formulating an actual opinion, before talking out of your ass, moron. It's not just Mav fans who are saying this. Laker and Spurfans have noted the exact same things.

[Bill_Brasky]

Did the Mavs not have a lot of good looks and layups that they normally make?

Try watching the game and formulating an actual opinion, before talking out of your ass, moron. It's not just Mav fans who are saying this. Laker and Spurfans have noted the exact same things.

By "normally" do you mean only during the past month? Miami knew the shots would stop falling and closed well on the 3pt shooters for the most part. Peja is obviously broke and terry threw off his own rhythm after he got off to a good start.

Dallas left plenty of people open for 3 too. The only one who couldnt hit shit was bibby.

[Findog]

Mavs are in a bind. Dirk needs to step it up and rebound better. When Chandler guards Bosh, he gets pulled away from the basket. But you don't want to risk Dirk getting into foul trouble guarding Bosh. So your choice is to let Dirk guard Bosh and risk Bosh going off or getting Dirk into foul trouble, but you grab a few more boards, or you hope that Dirk does a better job on the boards and stay with the Chandler/Bosh assignment.

[Findog]

Also, Barea, Terry and Peja all missed a lot of shots they normally make. They were open looks, but Miami is so good at rotating out and closing that I think our guys were rushing their shots anticipating the closeouts.

[Findog]

Bottom line, if we don't rebound better, and if our guys don't knock down the shots they were making against LA and OKC, then we're going to lose. I have a bad feeling about last night: Miami didn't play all that great but they pulled away comfortably in the final five minutes. Wade and Bron were so-so by their standards.

I would say Game Two is the series. Miami is not losing three straight in Dallas, they are just too good to beat three straight times no matter where you play. If we fall behind 0-2, then at best we go back to Miami down 3-2. Our only chance is coming back to Miami up 3-2 with two chances to get the fourth win.

[dirk4mvp]

LeBron had a pedestrian game by his standards, but it seems like that's the kind of player Wade has become. Be average the first 3 quarters and turn into jesus in the 4th, and there's not really anything Dallas can do about that.

[Venti Quattro]

Dallas must win game 2. They MUST

[Giuseppe]

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Chalmers will have to impact.]]]

Chalmers impacted.

[Giuseppe]

Dallas must win game 2. They MUST

Problem is:::so MUST Miami.

& Riley knows it.

[Axe Murderer]

Scary thing is that it almost seemed like LeBron wasn't even trying.

He really did look like Magic out there by setting up his teammates with seemingly little effort.

[Findog]

Problem is:::so MUST Miami.

& Riley knows it.

Nah, Miami will get one in Dallas. The Heat only have to get the series back to the 2-3-2 portion. Doesn't matter if they're up or down 3-2 at that point.

[Venti Quattro]

Nah, Miami will get one in Dallas. The Heat only have to get the series back to the 2-3-2 portion. Doesn't matter if they're up or down 3-2 at that point.
same thing LA did last year

[DPG21920]

:lol Stretch. That is a massive homer take. Did you not watch the game? I agree that Dallas got some good looks, which is why they hit 9 3's at a 40% clip which is very good. That won't get better. Dallas didn't defend Mia any better at all. Both teams defended well problem is MIA actually has guys that get into the lane (which MIA did more easily) and finish. Mia defended well and on the ones where they closed out the 3pt shooters and forced DAL to put the ball on the floor, DAL struggled.

[DPG21920]

Also, DAL won't win a game this series where they get out rebounded IMO. If your saying Dallas will lose that area bc of their scheme, they're done.

[Giuseppe]

Nah, Miami will get one in Dallas.

Only if they arrive there at 2-0.

If they get there at 1-1, Dallas will have exerted their force, their way, and it'll be extremely difficult for another game to be played in Miami.

[Venti Quattro]

Only if they arrive there at 2-0.

If they get there at 1-1, Dallas will have exerted their force, their way, and it'll be extremely difficult for another game to be played in Miami.

Miami will win one in Dallas...

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Haywood is mediocre at best. But he sure has a mean dunk :lol

[dirk4mvp]

Haywood would start on the Spurs.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Haywood would start on the Spurs.

Please, he can't even hit 3's.

[Venti Quattro]

He's not fit for the gimmick offense of San Antonio, he's going to rot on the bench.

[Giuseppe]

Miami will win one in Dallas...

It'll be a different set for Miami going to Texas at 1-1. The doubts will commence to creep back in.

They'll be a precedent (Game 2) that Dallas can build on & Miami will have to account for. Miami will have to react, and that will be Carlisle's killing ground.

[dirk4mvp]

Please, he can't even hit 3's.

He probably could against SA if Damp can :lol

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[jag]

Say what you want about the Mavs missing shots they are capable of making, but Bosh and Wade combined for 14-37 shooting. I just dont expect that to be the norm for this series.

[Findog]

Both teams can certainly play better. It was a classic Game One feeling each other out exercise.

[Bill_Brasky]

Haywood would start on the Spurs.

Only over Bonner's dead body, lmao