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Muse
06-02-2011, 12:48 AM
A two-year-old boy has been killed in a horrific attack by five pit bull terriers.
Jacob Bisbee managed to open the garage door of his family home yesterday in Concord, California, releasing three of the dogs owned by his step-grandfather Steven Hayashi.
Jacob was immediately attacked by the dogs, and another two pit bulls owned by Hayashi that were in a yard nearby joined in the mauling.
The toddler suffered terrible injuries and was pronounced dead at hospital after the attack. All five dogs were destroyed.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1297053/Toddler-mauled-death-FIVE-pit-bull-terriers-horrific-attack.html#ixzz1O5wkT1K7

Lebron
06-02-2011, 12:58 AM
all five dogs were destroyed? wtf does that mean did they blow them bitches up

BRHornet45
06-02-2011, 02:31 AM
but.. but... but they don't hurt anyone!!!

TE
06-02-2011, 02:37 AM
Dang

DMX7
06-02-2011, 02:41 AM
They're godless killing machines... like bears... and Lady Gaga.

TDMVPDPOY
06-02-2011, 02:59 AM
from that story, seems like the owner owned 5 pits, wtf does he need 5pits anyway?

CubanSucks
06-02-2011, 04:54 AM
but.. but... but they don't hurt anyone!!!

if brought up properly

DUNCANownsKOBE
06-02-2011, 05:03 AM
Pitbulls are great dogs when they're not brought up to attack everything in site.

BacktoBasics
06-02-2011, 08:01 AM
but.. but... but they don't hurt anyone!!!Your ignorance is only trumped by your stupidity.

benefactor
06-02-2011, 08:01 AM
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-05-28/us/new.york.dog.attack_1_family-dog-brooklyn-child-brookdale-hospital?_s=PM:US
http://www.wisn.com/r/24761894/detail.html
http://www.examiner.com/pet-care-in-national/chow-mixed-breed-dog-kills-child-az
http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-dog-kills-baby,0,6063917.story

Doesn't take much searching to find articles about all kinds of dogs that kill children. Owners and parents that aren't watching their children are responsible, not dogs.

hater
06-02-2011, 08:13 AM
Pitbulls are great dogs when they're not brought up to attack everything in site.

way off.

All it takes is one incident (temper going off/fight with another dog/small biting incident) and the pits awaken the demon inside them and once it's awakened forget about it.

lefty
06-02-2011, 08:17 AM
Pitbulls owners association: " it's unfair; they are nice dogs ! "

benefactor
06-02-2011, 08:33 AM
way off.

All it takes is one incident (temper going off/fight with another dog/small biting incident) and the pits awaken the demon inside them and once it's awakened forget about it.
Quotes from dog specialists to back this up? The ASPCA, CDC and American Veterinary Medical Association seem to disagree with you.

hater
06-02-2011, 08:40 AM
Quotes from dog specialists to back this up? The ASPCA, CDC and American Veterinary Medical Association seem to disagree with you.

I have tons of friends that have pits. They all admit to this. Secret is they must never let the 1st incident take place. Great owners will successfully have a "good" pit. But mediocre to bad owners or owners with multiple pits will most likely have killing machines.

mrsmaalox
06-02-2011, 09:00 AM
Very tragic :(

But....very negligent to have dogs of any breed in a home with children if you can't provide proper supervision of both.

DisAsTerBot
06-02-2011, 09:07 AM
I have tons of friends that have pits. They all admit to this. Secret is they must never let the 1st incident take place. Great owners will successfully have a "good" pit. But mediocre to bad owners or owners with multiple pits will most likely have killing machines.

his 19 years and 4 ghetto friends have given him much experience

DUNCANownsKOBE
06-02-2011, 09:16 AM
way off.

All it takes is one incident (temper going off/fight with another dog/small biting incident) and the pits awaken the demon inside them and once it's awakened forget about it.
:lol where do you and your friend chugbeaner come up with all this stupidity?

"Awaken the demon inside" :lmao what the fuck does that mean? Does the pitbull need an exorcist afterward?

BlackSwordsMan
06-02-2011, 09:19 AM
We don't even know what the kid did to the pitbulls. Judgmental assholes

boutons_deux
06-02-2011, 09:20 AM
Pit bulls don't kill children, their teeth do.

Viva Las Espuelas
06-02-2011, 09:26 AM
Guns don't kill people. Bullets do.

I. Hustle
06-02-2011, 09:30 AM
We don't even know what the kid did to the pitbulls. Judgmental assholes

He destroyed them

Viva Las Espuelas
06-02-2011, 09:32 AM
Guns don't kill people. Fingers do.

spurs_fan_in_exile
06-02-2011, 09:33 AM
It's June and even Spurstalk is into summer reruns now.

Viva Las Espuelas
06-02-2011, 09:33 AM
Guns don't kill people. People that makes the guns do.

Bartleby
06-02-2011, 09:34 AM
If pitbulls are outlawed only outlaws will have pitbulls.

Viva Las Espuelas
06-02-2011, 09:34 AM
Guns don't kill people. Slight pressure does.

Viva Las Espuelas
06-02-2011, 09:36 AM
Hopefully a nice Filipino family benefitted from this.

I. Hustle
06-02-2011, 09:37 AM
Viva doesn't kill threads... oh wait, yes he does.

hater
06-02-2011, 09:39 AM
:lol where do you and your friend chugbeaner come up with all this stupidity?

"Awaken the demon inside" :lmao what the fuck does that mean? Does the pitbull need an exorcist afterward?

The Pitbull breed is known for this. Hopefully you will find out from 1st hand experience. The world would be a better place :lol

Viva Las Espuelas
06-02-2011, 09:40 AM
Woe is me

thispego
06-02-2011, 09:46 AM
goddamn viva is unfunny

Viva Las Espuelas
06-02-2011, 09:47 AM
Mooooo

GoodOdor
06-02-2011, 10:17 AM
I hate to agree with beaner hater here, but honestly, it does seem like a lot of the attacks are by pitbulls....

Now, it could be because those owners who go for pitbulls are what we call "hoodrats" in the first place - you know, people looking for a status symbol, etc. But it's hard to ignore that when you hear about a case like that, most people would think "Pitbull"....and be right.

Can't imagine my Labrador ever attacking anyone.

pawe
06-02-2011, 11:25 AM
Hopefully a nice Filipino family benefitted from this.

I'd marinade it in teriyaki sauce with steamed rice TBH

DisAsTerBot
06-02-2011, 11:37 AM
I hate to agree with beaner hater here, but honestly, it does seem like a lot of the attacks are by pitbulls....

Now, it could be because those owners who go for pitbulls are what we call "hoodrats" in the first place - you know, people looking for a status symbol, etc. But it's hard to ignore that when you hear about a case like that, most people would think "Pitbull"....and be right.

Can't imagine my Labrador ever attacking anyone.

Well that's a big part of the problem, most of theses "pitbulls" are terriers or mastiffs with large heads that look, to people who don't know, like pitbulls.....the common theme in most if not all of thses cases : irresponsible owners

pawe
06-02-2011, 11:45 AM
There's a reason why Pitbulls are banned in Colorado.

The Gemini Method
06-02-2011, 11:51 AM
With 5 pitbulls, you have nothing but time elapsed before something tragic like this would happen. That's just ludicrous...sad to hear about the child though--this should be like that case in SF where the two dogs (not pits, I believe) mauled the lady and the couple that owned the pair of dogs got 2nd degree murder put on their collective heads.

TimmehC
06-02-2011, 12:00 PM
There's a reason why no major insurance company will accept a homeowners policy for a person who owns a pitbull, especially multiple pitbulls. And the few that do charge ridiculous rates.

hater
06-02-2011, 12:47 PM
Dok getting owned up in here

The Gemini Method
06-02-2011, 12:56 PM
There's a reason why no major insurance company will accept a homeowners policy for a person who owns a pitbull, especially multiple pitbulls. And the few that do charge ridiculous rates.

Though that's not the only breed that warrants increased or denial of insurance coverage though as I found out via my brother-in-law and his ownership of rottweilers...also even some companies require it for German Sheppards and dobermans as well...

benefactor
06-02-2011, 01:05 PM
I have tons of friends that have pits. They all admit to this. Secret is they must never let the 1st incident take place. Great owners will successfully have a "good" pit. But mediocre to bad owners or owners with multiple pits will most likely have killing machines.
lol dog experts.

I hate to agree with beaner hater here, but honestly, it does seem like a lot of the attacks are by pitbulls....

Now, it could be because those owners who go for pitbulls are what we call "hoodrats" in the first place - you know, people looking for a status symbol, etc. But it's hard to ignore that when you hear about a case like that, most people would think "Pitbull"....and be right.

Can't imagine my Labrador ever attacking anyone.
The microscope is just closer on them. As I showed in the links I posted(which I found in less than a minute via Google) all dogs are capable of biting or even killing a child if put in the wrong environment. I've been around them my whole life and have never even had one growl at me. My pit was loose in my house when it was completely ran sacked. I opened my door to find my house torn to pieces and my dog walking up to me with his head down wagging his tail.

There's a reason why no major insurance company will accept a homeowners policy for a person who owns a pitbull, especially multiple pitbulls. And the few that do charge ridiculous rates.
That's funny...I just bought a house and I had no trouble getting insurance and I don't pay much at all. The adjuster saw my pitbull and documented it.

jjktkk
06-02-2011, 01:09 PM
Viva doesn't kill threads... oh wait, yes he does.

:lol

Bender
06-02-2011, 01:13 PM
There's a reason why no major insurance company will accept a homeowners policy for a person who owns a pitbull, especially multiple pitbulls. And the few that do charge ridiculous rates.
I have a great dane, a lovable and friendly dog, but I can't get H.O. insurance with some companies because they say its a "big breed".

DeadlyDynasty
06-02-2011, 01:18 PM
I'm with bene on this one. I have a couple friends who own or have owned pitbulls (one has a 5 year old daughter). If you raise the dog from a pup and train him well, these incidents can usually be avoided. Puppies are like small children. If you beat their ass when they do something wrong, as well as reward them for certain good behaviors, then they will be loyal and obedient (accept when kids become teens). I also don't see the need for 5 pitbulls unless you're running a kennel or some shit. The owner's at fault for a slew of things here.

pawe
06-02-2011, 01:22 PM
So what's the explanation of why pitbulls are banned in some states, banned/rejected by insurance companies or disliked by so many people if they are so good natured and gentle breed of dogs?
Im pretty sure the owner of the 5 pitbulls is a very good owner since he doesnt participate in illegal activities and probably have enough time for his dogs too since if you own 5 dogs, that means you really know how to properly take care of dogs.
Dont tell me its politics.

Frenzy
06-02-2011, 01:26 PM
but.. but... but they don't hurt anyone!!!


if brought up properly



Just like teenagers.

TimmehC
06-02-2011, 02:17 PM
I have a great dane, a lovable and friendly dog, but I can't get H.O. insurance with some companies because they say its a "big breed".

Eh, the company I work for would be OK with it(unless it has a history of ever biting/attacking someone). No Pits/Dobes/Rotts though.

TimmehC
06-02-2011, 02:18 PM
lol dog experts.

The microscope is just closer on them. As I showed in the links I posted(which I found in less than a minute via Google) all dogs are capable of biting or even killing a child if put in the wrong environment. I've been around them my whole life and have never even had one growl at me. My pit was loose in my house when it was completely ran sacked. I opened my door to find my house torn to pieces and my dog walking up to me with his head down wagging his tail.

That's funny...I just bought a house and I had no trouble getting insurance and I don't pay much at all. The adjuster saw my pitbull and documented it.

Maybe things have changed in the last couple years. Or, maybe they'll stick you at your renewal. Good for you if you found a company that won't charge you extra for that.

CubanSucks
06-02-2011, 03:00 PM
So what's the explanation of why pitbulls are banned in some states, banned/rejected by insurance companies or disliked by so many people if they are so good natured and gentle breed of dogs?
Im pretty sure the owner of the 5 pitbulls is a very good owner since he doesnt participate in illegal activities and probably have enough time for his dogs too since if you own 5 dogs, that means you really know how to properly take care of dogs.
Dont tell me its politics.

It's absolutely politics. Or rather, complete ignorance by politicians. Do you base all your ideas around the law? Why do you think marijuana is illegal? I guess according to you it's gotta be because it's this deadly substance that makes you lose your mind. Or, it could be that ignorant power hungry politicians love to grandstand and take up very easy causes just to build their popularity. Make an issue out of something that's never gonna be solved, negligent big dog owners raising them to become murders. I can't believe you'd think it's anything BUT politics

Viva Las Espuelas
06-02-2011, 03:06 PM
Politics? Dogs?

cheguevara
06-02-2011, 03:08 PM
:rolleyes you mofos cannot seriously be comparing pits to german shephers or great danes

Pitbulls are a fighting breed. Why do you think all ghetto ass bruvas have pits?? because they are lovable and cuddly??? Have you seen a brotha in the ghetto with a german shepherd???

When fucked with a pitbull will most likely maul you. Plain and simple.

5 pits? now the probability of someone getting their face chewd smooth off increases exponentially

cheguevara
06-02-2011, 03:11 PM
now let's go further. Let's say you have to make a choice between leaving your 5 year old with either a pitbull or a german shepherd. Who do you pick? :rolleyes

CubanSucks
06-02-2011, 03:14 PM
:rolleyes you mofos cannot seriously be comparing pits to german shephers or great danes

Pitbulls are a fighting breed. Why do you think all ghetto ass bruvas have pits?? because they are lovable and cuddly??? Have you seen a brotha in the ghetto with a german shepherd???

When fucked with a pitbull will most likely maul you. Plain and simple.

5 pits? now the probability of someone getting their face chewd smooth off increases exponentially


now let's go further. Let's say you have to make a choice between leaving your 5 year old with either a pitbull or a german shepherd. Who do you pick? :rolleyes

what's your point? Everyone's already agreed that they're killing machines when not raised properly.

cheguevara
06-02-2011, 03:16 PM
well, someone said the bias towards pitbulls is due to politicians :lol

4>0rings
06-02-2011, 03:26 PM
If pitbulls are outlawed only outlaws will have pitbulls.
:lmao Great job!

ALVAREZ6
06-02-2011, 03:38 PM
pussy ass dogs tbh... attacking 2 year old baby, let alone 5 vs. 1

DeadlyDynasty
06-02-2011, 03:41 PM
pussy ass dogs tbh... attacking 2 year old baby, let alone 5 vs. 1

You forgot the blue font

CubanSucks
06-02-2011, 04:43 PM
well, someone said the bias towards pitbulls is due to politicians :lol

What I said was politicians take advantage of that bias and use it to their advantage. The bias is do to the fact that pitbulls have a reputation mainly cause they are owned by trashy people a whole lot of the time. The main point I'd get across is that there's nothing that can be done about it. Those same trash, if stripped of there rights to own pitbulls, will just look for the next in line of dogs with street cred.

Spurtacus
06-02-2011, 05:17 PM
Should have let the pitbulls maul the owner before destroying them.

romad_20
06-02-2011, 05:58 PM
Fuex4gSwgpw

Can you believe they let over 200 of these cold blooded killers out in public in Austin? What's even more mind blowing is there were zero incidents. Must have all been on xanax.

Take a close look at the owners in this video and then look at the people involved in these maulings and tell me what the difference is?

Nick Manning
06-02-2011, 06:03 PM
Fuex4gSwgpw

Can you believe they let over 200 of these cold blooded killers out in public in Austin? What's even more mind blowing is there were zero incidents.

The miracle of peanut butter.

Choosy dogs choose Jif

4>0rings
06-02-2011, 06:03 PM
If you can raise a German Sheperd to not be smart, a bloodhound not to have a good sense of smell, a bassett not to follow his nose, a terrier not to be hyper, then I'll believe you can raise a pitbull with no fighting, aggressive tendencies.

It's going to take generations of proper breeding of pitbulls to get rid of that instinct that was breed into them since their exisistance. I know there are some out there that are totally trustworthy. These come from people that have breed these dogs in a normal dog fashion and not to fight. I would trust a pit if I knew it's parents, their parents... and if the owners who breed them are family orientated.

Now with that being said, I personally wouldn't have one with children. There are too many variables to get a proper pitbull. Without children, I would feel comfortable owning one.

DMC
06-02-2011, 06:19 PM
How come no one destroys a swimming pool when a kid drowns in it?

romad_20
06-02-2011, 06:21 PM
If you can raise a German Sheperd to not be smart, a bloodhound not to have a good sense of smell, a bassett not to follow his nose, a terrier not to be hyper, then I'll believe you can raise a pitbull with no fighting, aggressive tendencies.

It's going to take generations of proper breeding of pitbulls to get rid of that instinct that was breed into them since their exisistance. I know there are some out there that are totally trustworthy. These come from people that have breed these dogs in a normal dog fashion and not to fight. I would trust a pit if I knew it's parents, their parents... and if the owners who breed them are family orientated.

Now with that being said, I personally wouldn't have one with children. There are too many variables to get a proper pitbull. Without children, I would feel comfortable owning one.

Your point sounds good but the problem is that Pit bulls (which isn't a breed anyway) were bred to bait bears then for dog fighting, not people fighting. They have been know throughout their history to be one of the most friendly and loyal dogs to their human owners.

From the AKC for the Staffordshire (a dog routinely called a pitbull)


Temperament
From the past history of the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, the modern dog draws its character of indomitable courage, high intelligence, and tenacity. This, coupled with its affection for its friends, and children in particular, its off-duty quietness and trustworthy stability, makes it a foremost all-purpose dog.

4>0rings
06-02-2011, 06:28 PM
How come no one destroys a swimming pool when a kid drowns in it?
They do. They make you put in a fence and take away diving boards, which totally destroys all the fun.

ALVAREZ6
06-02-2011, 06:29 PM
Your point sounds good but the problem is that Pit bulls (which isn't a breed anyway) were bred to bait bears then for dog fighting, not people fighting. They have been know throughout their history to be one of the most friendly and loyal dogs to their human owners.

From the AKC for the Staffordshire (a dog routinely called a pitbull)

Keyword: owners

What dog isn't friendly and loyal to its owner?

DUNCANownsKOBE
06-02-2011, 06:43 PM
I hate to agree with beaner hater here, but honestly, it does seem like a lot of the attacks are by pitbulls....

Now, it could be because those owners who go for pitbulls are what we call "hoodrats" in the first place - you know, people looking for a status symbol, etc. But it's hard to ignore that when you hear about a case like that, most people would think "Pitbull"....and be right.

Can't imagine my Labrador ever attacking anyone.
Yeah, you don't know anything either.

lol agreeing with hater and chugbeaner

DUNCANownsKOBE
06-02-2011, 06:48 PM
I own a pitbull St. Bernard mix and he's seriously the sweetest dog I've ever met. He's always happy and lets my older dog have its way even though he could tear my older dog in half if he wanted to. If he was adopted by some minority (like the same race as hater and chugbeaner) and raised to show its teeth at everything it would be a shitty dog.

Pitbulls have extremely strong jaws and make the best watch dogs, so hood rat minorities chose them when they want a dog who will fight and scare people off, but you can raise a German Shepard and several other breeds to be just as mean.

pawe
06-02-2011, 09:28 PM
How come no one destroys a swimming pool when a kid drowns in it?

Can you swim on a dog? Stay on topic. We are talking about pitbulls killing people, not drowning.

DMC
06-03-2011, 12:53 AM
Can you swim on a dog? Stay on topic. We are talking about pitbulls killing people, not drowning.
Death is death. A dog no more seeks out to kill anyone than a swimming pool does. Dogs do what we train them to do. Who the fuck has a 2 year old in reach of 5 pitbulls anyhow? Dude needs to be fucking strung up.

romad_20
06-03-2011, 07:11 PM
Pitbulls have extremely strong jaws and make the best watch dogs

I know you're weren't trying to bash the breed, but even this is very bad misinformation.


Multiple sources:


You "hopefully" didn't get a Pit Bull to protect you anyway. If you needed a guard dog, you would have looked into other breeds more suitable for protection, or best, just get a good alarm system. You would not impose to an animal the responsibility to judge situations and make intelligent decisions that could eventually bite him back in the ass if ever he was wrong...!

You got a Pit Bull because you wanted a trustworthy and friendly companion, and maybe a dog with an impressive look and confidant demeanor so people would "think" you have a good guard dog. You have since realized that YOU better be the guard dog because your Pit Bull is indeed more at risk of being stolen than your TV.

Don't be bummed. If ever you are the victim of an act of violence, a good Pit Bull will probably instinctively attempt to defend you because you are the food provider and he depends on you for his survival (and yes, he loves you too ;-) If you are not being aggressed though, a good Pit Bull will be friendly with anyone with no distinction in regard to age, sex, skin color, clothing, ect, because a good Pit Bull is a stable dog and you have socialized him well.


Pit Bulls as Guard Dogs

I am looking for a good guard dog to protect my home. Is a pit bull a good choice as a guard dog?

No. The only "guard dog" qualities of a pit bull are its formidable appearance and its name. Other than that, they are not very good at this job. Pit bulls were not created to perform the task of protecting someone's home or property. In many cases pit bulls are just too friendly with people to be good at this. They may bark and "look" scary, but as soon as the intruder smiles at them, most pit bulls think they have made a new friend! In fact, pit bulls are very much at risk of being stolen. Due to their friendly and trusting nature, they are often led right out of their owners' yard, which is one reason they should never be left outdoors unattended.

Pit bulls should not show aggression towards humans and should never be encouraged to attack strangers under any circumstances. With their looks and unfair reputation alone, pit bulls will discourage most thieves from entering your property, provided they are not after the dog itself. Like any good dog, your pit bull should alert you if there is someone around your house, and it might naturally defend you if you are threatened. But do not count on your pit bull to guard your house or property while you are away. In fact, you may want to get a good alarm system to protect your pit bull.

Remember, you are the leader! Your dog counts on you to protect her, not the other way around.


Top Guard Dogs


1. Fila Brasileiro
2. Rottweiler
3. Doberman (female)
4. Dogo argentino
5. Belgian Shepherd Dogs
6. South-African Boerboel
7. Cane Corso
8. Tosa Inu
9. Neapolitan Mastiff


10. Dogue de Bordeaux
11. German Shepherd Dog
12. American Bulldog
13. Ca de Bou
14. Bouvier des Flandres
15. Giant Schnauzer
16. Thai Ridgeback
17. Bullmastiff
18. Akita Inu



Note that most American Pit Bull Terriers lack guard dog instincts but are nevertheless considered a strong deterrent in self-reporting surveys among burglars.


Please people do some research or actually work with the animals before making these hearsay judgements

DUNCANownsKOBE
06-03-2011, 07:26 PM
Pitbulls do have extremely strong jaws tho, but the info about Pitbulls being friendly to anyone who smiles at them is right. When raised right Pits are extremely people friendly dogs.