So Marion isn't a choker...

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

It turns out, playing with an assist whore who only gave Marion the opportunity to score off assists, never gave Marion the opportunity to develop his own game off the dribble, never develop the post game he has now, and made him appear like a choker. He never got the ball, and when defenses locked in on Nash forcing him to pass, Marion received the ball and had no idea what to do with it.

lol Marion proving me wrong but strengthening my PG theory even more :lmao

[DMC]

He's been strong since the team jumped his ass in the film room.

[badfish22]

^ Truth. He got called out, and he has responded.

[ClipshowDynasty]

tbh i still cringe everytime he drives into the lawn and throws up that bullshit floater. it is effective however, but in a tight playoff game..i have seen it fail enough times causing me to get nervous when he shoots

[Naztradoomus]

What the hell is an "assist whore"?

[TE]

even when you're wrong, you're right.

[picc84]

Was with you until "off the dribble". Every time he dribbled it was a disaster. Get him the ball in the post and you're ok. Let him handle it...no.

[DMC]

What the hell is an "assist whore"?
Rondo

[JoeTait75]

What the hell is an "assist whore"?

Whatever it is, I'm pretty sure it's Canadian.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

What the hell is an "assist whore"?
Someone who massages the ball and over dribbles looking for an assist opportunity when he should have passed the ball/shot the ball several seconds before he passes it trying to get an assist. Seems like a pretty self explanatory term.

[Isitjustme?]

Jesus, another point guard bashing thread bro?

[Isitjustme?]

Really?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Jesus, another point guard bashing thread bro?
It's what I do.

[badfish22]

Rose will make or break it in the coming years.

[Veterinarian]

:lol I like this ? newb DoK; he's got some spunk...





























cue BUMP thinking he's me

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Rose will make or break it in the coming years.
For whatever reason, people love point guards. When Rose goes ringless, people will still claim my theory is wrong.

[Jeremy]

Marion had some huge clutch playoff performances for the Suns, so I'm not surprised. Just wish he had never gone to the Mavs.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lol I like this ? newb DoK; he's got some spunk...



























cue BUMP thinking he's me
lol people who think this isn't the real DoK

[dirk4mvp]

For whatever reason, people love point guards. When Rose goes ringless, people will still claim my theory is wrong.

crofl if ST is around 12+ years from now.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Marion had some huge clutch playoff performances for the Suns
You should climb back in your mother's pussy and tell her to start stabbing with a clothes hanger.

[Axe Murderer]

obviously this DoK guy = Veterinarian



















































































and I'm not BUMP, tbh

[Veterinarian]

lol people who think this isn't the real DoK

Nah, I'm saying I somewhat like this isitjustme dude.

[dirk4mvp]

tbh if this is the real DoK, what is the best new Lil B song, tbh?

[Veterinarian]

not BUMP, tbh

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I agree tbh, Isitjustme? might be skipping the GNSF phase of ST entirely.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

tbh if this is the real DoK, what is the best new Lil B song, tbh?
Swag Jerry Rice!

[dirk4mvp]

touchdown! touchdown! I think I'm Jerry Rice!

[Axe Murderer]

surprised Vet's still logged in, imho

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

touchdown!

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

touchdown!!

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I think I'm Jerry Rice!

[dirk4mvp]

isitjustme? is mine. I saw him first. Like when Cully found Barea first and was called everything but a white man.

[Jeremy]

You should climb back in your mother's pussy and tell her to start stabbing with a clothes hanger.

Two that pop into mind quickly are Game 6 in '05 against Dallas and Game 3 and/or 5 (?) in '06 against the Clippers when he had like a 30/20 game in one game and a pretty big performance in the other IIRC.

[Isitjustme?]

:elephant :elephant

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Two that pop into mind quickly are Game 6 in '05 against Dallas and Game 3 and/or 5 (?) in '06 against the Clippers when he had like a 30/20 game in one game and a pretty big performance in the other IIRC.
:lmao two games in the 2nd round (one against the fuckin Clippers :lmao) are your best examples

How did he do against the teams like oh idk San Antonio?

[dirk4mvp]

All Nash's fault.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

All Nash's fault.
And D'antoni tbh. He shoulda made it Amare/Marion's team and kept Nash as the role player he is. He chose to make the Suns a team extremely dependent on its PG.

[dirk4mvp]

Agree, imo. Putting Nash in a Kerr spot up shooter role while Amare and Marion were the big dogs would = class and rings.

[Naztradoomus]

Are you sure it wasn't the fact that those Suns teams couldn't play d, more so than their point guard passed too well that they sucked?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Agree, imo. Putting Nash in a Kerr spot up shooter role while Amare and Marion were the big dogs would = class and rings.
Ina world of hype, Amare and Marion just win.

[badfish22]

kept Nash as the role player he is
:lol lets not go too far with this.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lol lets not go too far with this.
The biggest role Nash will ever have on a championship team is that of a spot up shooting role player. Not going very far at all. Not even prime Steve Nash would be a primary offensive weapon on a championship team.

[Jeremy]

:lmao two games in the 2nd round (one against the fuckin Clippers :lmao) are your best examples

How did he do against the teams like oh idk San Antonio?

'05 vs. Mavs, Game 6: 38/16

'06 vs. Clips, Game 1: 20/15 Game 3: 32/19 Game 5: 36/20 Game 7: 30/9

'07 vs. Spurs, Game 3: 26/7 Game 4: 12/12 Game 5: 24/17

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

'07 vs. Spurs, Game 3: 26/7 Game 4: 12/12 Game 5: 24/17
In game 5 against San Antonio, with Amare out, Marion had a whopping 5 2nd half points and missed a wide open 3 to send the game to OT.

To say Marion was clutch is an example of the Phoenix Suns having the most retarded fanbase in the NBA.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Jeremy is probably one of those dumbfuck ASU Republicans who thought the Suns would be good this year because they got rid of a black player:lol

[Jeremy]

In game 5 against San Antonio, with Amare out, Marion had a whopping 5 2nd half points and missed a wide open 3 to send the game to OT.

To say Marion was clutch is an example of the Phoenix Suns having the most retarded fanbase in the NBA.

I put Game 5 (post-suspensions) entirely on D'Antoni. The team just had nothing left in the tank at the end.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I put Game 5 (post-suspensions) entirely on D'Antoni. The team just had nothing left in the tank at the end.
And I put the Suns' recent failures on retarded fans like you who let Sarver get away with retarded decisions.

[Jeremy]

And I put the Suns' recent failures on retarded fans like you who let Sarver get away with retarded decisions.

Such as trading away quality players like Marion and ending up with nothing to show for it?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Such as trading away quality players like Marion and ending up with nothing to show for it?
Letting Amare leave was 100x worse than trading a disgruntled disinterested Marion for Shaq.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

You probably still watch games and attend games. Any real Suns fan would do everything in his power to force Sarver to sell i.e. not watch or attend any games to lower TV ratings/ticket sales.

[Jacob1983]

Marion has played well. He needs to keep it up. Besides, he's the matrix.

[Jeremy]

Letting Amare leave was 100x worse than trading a disgruntled disinterested Marion for Shaq.

I wouldn't say 100x worse, but I agree it was certainly worse. But then again almost every move Sarver's made since he became owner has been bad. Johnson, Marion, Amare all gone with nothing to show for it.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Anyone who truly thinks Sarver is the cancerous owner he is wouldn't watch or attend games anymore.

[DMC]

I wouldn't say 100x worse, but I agree it was certainly worse. But then again almost every move Sarver's made since he became owner has been bad. Johnson, Marion, Amare all gone with nothing to show for it.

Not true. The Suns are only being discussed because of those years. Ring is great, but being a contender is pretty good also.

[spurs777]

Phoenix should have got some draft picks at the least for those guys tbh

[Giuseppe]

Ring is great, but being a contender is pretty good also.

None of that crapola.

You know better.

[jag]

I can't figure out if dok is trolling or if he's really overrating Marion this much.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

No more than you overrate a 10 point 5 assist PG :lol

[Giuseppe]

Sose's Joint must be beside themselves with the thought of Marion & Kidd ringin'.

tee, hee.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Fuck Sose's joint and all the stupid members they have.

[jag]

No more than you overrate a 10 point 5 assist PG :lol

1. I still don't know if this is actually dok
2. We already settled the 10 point 5 assist issue

[jag]

3. There's no way in hell you have already forgotten The Real Shawn Marion

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Oh and :lmao @ "Call my shit Patricia"


real G's move in silence like lasagna tbh

[Axe Murderer]

I still don't know if this is actually dok


tbh type the words "beaner" and "spear chucker" in his post search and that will give you the answer i said

[jag]

Nothing says hood life like lasagna

[Giuseppe]

Fuck Sose's joint and all the stupid members they have.

Please.

God love the bunch here, but, they don't know shit from shinola about NBA compared to Sose's Joint.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Please.

God love the bunch here, but, they don't know shit from shinola about NBA compared to Sose's Joint.
:lol the people over there probably predicted the Suns would be good this year, they probably thought Turkoglu > Amare like someone we know.

[jag]

4. Nash wasn't with Marion in Toronto
5. Nash wasn't with Marion in Miami

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

The amount of Suns fans who thought Turkoglu would fit in seamlessly and be a perfect fit epitomizes how retarded the Suns' fanbase is.

[jacobdrj]

Someone who massages the ball and over dribbles looking for an assist opportunity when he should have passed the ball/shot the ball several seconds before he passes it trying to get an assist. Seems like a pretty self explanatory term.

Starburry comes to mind...

[Giuseppe]

:lol the people over there probably predicted the Suns would be good this year, they probably thought Turkoglu > Amare like someone we know.

And the people over there probably won as many playoff games as Amare.

tee, hee.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

lol still thinking Turkoglu > Amare

[Giuseppe]

lol still thinking Turkoglu > Amare

Never said such.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Never said such.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162653


lol people who think that Hedo will help the team more than Amar'e as if Turkoglu will find a fountain of youth that will also make him a better player than Amar'e

Cully in response:


^I'm one of those. I'm sure they had a sit with Nash & Hedo, things were said, promises were made.

They can mold Hedo, Warrick and Childress.

Amare was a brick wall.


The Suns don't pick & choose their special purchases foolishly, i.e., Frye/sure he crapped out Vs. us, but, they got precisely what they thought they were getting.

Gentry can teach Warrick & Childress.

Amare was hopeless. The dummy didn't even realize how much an insult the offer of a non guaranteed contract is.

[Giuseppe]

And so where above do I say Turkuglu > Amare?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lmao saying Warrick, Turkoglu, and Childress are gonna work out well for the Suns

One is already gone, the other 2 are only still here because no other team wants them

[Giuseppe]

And so where above do I say Turkuglu > Amare?

That's what I thought.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

You said Turk would contribute more than Amare which is equally retarded

[Giuseppe]

You said Turk would contribute more than Amare which is equally retarded

But that ain't what you accused me of. You were wrong.

And you know it.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Not as wrong as the person saying Turk would contribute more than Amare :lmao

[Giuseppe]

Not as wrong as the person saying Turk would contribute more than Amare :lmao

That's what I thought. You were wrong.

[dirk4mvp]

everbody knew cully can't discuss basketball like a normal human but did he really say Turk would contribute more than Amare? :lol

[Giuseppe]

everbody knew cully can't discuss basketball like a normal human but did he really say Turk would contribute more than Amare? :lol

You're gonna call ass on me this morning, you SOB?

Asshole.

[dirk4mvp]

To go along with the team ya was rooting for shitting the bed last night up big in the 4th.


ha, ha

[Giuseppe]

To go along with the team ya was rooting for shitting the bed last night up big in the 4th.


ha, ha

You fuck, you.

[dirk4mvp]

You made your bed. Now lay in it.

[Giuseppe]

You made your bed. Now lay in it.

You fuck, you.

[dirk4mvp]

lmcontrollinao!!!

[Giuseppe]

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

[dirk4mvp]

:rolleyes

[Giuseppe]

^lmemulatedao!

[badfish22]

DoK must have enjoyed this game

[DMC]

Choking only happens in tense situations when things are on the line and you have an obvious advantage. You don't choke in the 1st or 2nd game of best of 7. You choke in game 7 when you were up 15 with 5 minutes and start heaving bricks or missing FTs.

The series is still young. If the Heat win again in Dallas however, it could be over.