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ezau
06-03-2011, 10:46 PM
In 2007, as he was announcing new guidelines that would cover player conduct, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell spoke words that Ultimate Fighting Championship president Dana White needed to hear.


If he had heard them, former UFC light heavyweight champion Quinton “Rampage” Jackson might not have sexually harassed a female reporter during an interview after UFC 130 on May 28 in Las Vegas.


If White had taken heed of Goodell’s dead-on-the-money words, his company would not have looked the other way when one of its fighters at UFC 127 repeatedly used a derogatory term used to describe homosexuals.


And, had White bothered to have thought about establishing personal guidelines for his employees, his highly popular television analyst, Joe Rogan, would not have referred to Yahoo! Sports mixed martial arts blogger Maggie Hendricks as a part of the female anatomy.
In announcing a suspension of Adam “Pacman” Jones in 2007, Goodell made clear that the league would no longer tolerate outrageous conduct by its players.


“It is important that the NFL be represented consistently by outstanding people (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2007-04-10-new-conduct-policy_N.htm) as well as great football players, coaches, and staff,” Goodell said. “We hold ourselves to higher standards of responsible conduct because of what it means to be part of the National Football League. We have long had policies and programs designed to encourage responsible behavior, and this policy is a further step in ensuring that everyone who is part of the NFL meets that standard.”


Jackson miserably failed to meet any standard of decency when he put his face near reporter Karyn Bryant’s breasts following his win over Matt Hamill at UFC 130 on Saturday and said he would like to “motorboat” her. When Bryant told Jackson that she is partly of Jamaican descent, he responded by saying, “Well, Jamaican me horny.”


Apparently that’s the point where everyone was supposed to yuk it up and talk about what a funny guy old “Rampage” is. Except, it wasn’t funny, because it was the dictionary definition of sexual harassment. Instead of laughing, we should have been outraged.


Bryant brushed it off and insisted she wasn’t bothered by it, (http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/Karyn-Bryant-interview-Reporter-explains-why-sh?urn=mma-wp2906) but the excuse that it was just “Rampage being Rampage” doesn’t cut it. Nor does it matter how Bryant felt, as the many Jackson apologists who have since posted on Internet bulletin boards have alleged. It is already difficult for women to compete on equal footing with men as sports writers and Jackson’s sexual overtones simply made it worse.


Bryant somehow managed to trivialize the situation when she later tweeted to Jackson that she is happily married and not looking for any “side action.” Then, almost unbelievably, she added, “If he sez I can creep tho I’ll holla”
This, though, is not and should not be about Bryant, who was the victim. It is about Jackson’s boorish behavior, about an out-of-control fighter having no boundaries and not being reeled in by an organization that is fighting desperately for mainstream acceptance.


There is little doubt that Jackson, whose off-the-cuff, irreverent humor has helped make him one of the world’s most popular fighters, was attempting to be funny and wasn’t trying to sexually harass Bryant. Words, though, have consequences and there are plenty of women journalists who are extremely uncomfortable being anywhere around Jackson given his history of making sexual overtures toward them, jokingly or not.


Zuffa, the company that owns both the UFC and Strikeforce, brought its more than 300 fighters to Las Vegas last month for its annual “Fighter Summit,” in which it takes a day-and-a-half to lecture them on the evils of steroids and drugs, to counsel them on financial matters and gambling, and to help them cope with a whole series of life issues they may face as newly minted celebrities. It’s a wonderful, thoughtful session that other companies ought to emulate.


Nothing, though, was on the agenda about sexual harassment, but if White and UFC CEO Lorenzo Fertitta are serious about making the UFC a mainstream outfit, it’s going to need to be.
Can one even begin to think of the furor there would have been had an NFL player acted similarly in a postgame interview on ESPN with Erin Andrews or Suzy Kolber?


Hendricks correctly called out Jackson on his outrageous and unacceptable behavior (http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/-8216-Rampage-8217-continues-to-assault-repor?urn=mma-wp2828) and, for that, was greeted with a torrent of abuse from a fan base which failed to see how Jackson’s “kidding” might create a hostile and uncomfortable work environment for a woman assigned to cover MMA.

Among those ridiculing her was Rogan, the color analyst on the UFC’s television broadcasts. Other than Fertitta and White, Rogan quite possibly has done more than anyone else to help make MMA mainstream, but he made a huge faux pas when he blasted Hendricks in a post on the popular forum, The Underground.


On Wednesday, Rogan used the C-word when describing Hendricks and her writing. Rogan wrote that Jackson is “not a [expletive] dentist, he’s a cage fighter … ” Writing specifically about Hendricks later in the post, he wrote, “I don’t think [Jackson] should be given a free pass for some of the questionable things he does, but I do think that this woman in question is all kinds of [expletive].”


Rogan made a sort-of apology on Thursday when he made another post on The Underground: “Never did I imagine that so many people would get their panties in a bunch about the use of the word [expletive] to describe a female blogger.”


He wrote that his use of the C-word was unfortunate and said he views it as “just another word for bitchy.”
By using the C-word, though, he undermined any credibility or authority he had on the subject and came across as a testosterone-filled teenager not to be taken seriously.


Rogan’s words were extraordinarily inappropriate, particularly as the very public mouthpiece of a billion-dollar company. The UFC needed to make a strong, public condemnation of Jackson’s behavior and Rogan’s choice of words, but has thus far failed to do so.


Instead, late Thursday UFC spokeswoman Caren Bell privately called Hendricks and issued an apology. And while it is commendable that the UFC offered any kind of apology at all, it was made privately at a time when Hendricks was under heavy siege publicly because she stood up for what was right. A public apology would have meant more and carried far more weight.


Bell also pointed out to Hendricks that Rogan, who failed to respond to a text message seeking comment, is an independent contractor and doesn’t speak for the UFC. It’s a similar point White made to Yahoo! Sports during a very brief interview about it late Thursday afternoon.


“Joe Rogan is an independent contractor and he wrote his opinion,” White said. “And you are free to write your opinion of Joe Rogan’s opinion.”
In this case, though, the opinions that counted were those of Fertitta and White and they chose to keep their thoughts to themselves. They can’t allow Rogan to host UFC weigh-ins, tape promotional materials and do television commentary on UFC fights and then so simply distance themselves from Rogan’s objectionable words.


Fertitta and White needed to make the point that Zuffa does not condone sexual harassment and that the UFC and Strikeforce welcomes reporters of both sexes and will guarantee them a safe, secure and non-threatening workplace. They also need to make it a priority to teach their fighters and those who work for them what sexual harassment is and stress that it won’t be tolerated.


The two men who have done so many things correctly in building MMA over the last 10 years have failed so utterly and completely in this instance.
They need to apologize, not just to Hendricks, but to all women reporters. And after they apologize, they need to take their heads out of the sand and take clear, decisive action to make certain it doesn’t occur again.
Saying boys will be boys simply isn’t good enough.


by: Kevin Iole

LakerHater
06-03-2011, 11:54 PM
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Frank Dux
06-04-2011, 12:00 AM
thats what i call full-contact! hayooo!

polandprzem
06-04-2011, 01:37 AM
Making a big deal out of nothing.

Bryant was cool with that.


How is NFL going?

dbreiden83080
06-04-2011, 09:49 AM
Who the hell cares?

Everyone needs to stop being so touchy with stuff like this.

LakerHater
06-04-2011, 01:13 PM
Did Bryant file a complaint or is this all Hendricks doin?

desflood
06-04-2011, 01:41 PM
Actually, Rampage's actions were entirely inappropriate and Joe Rogan's comments were also way out of line. I know Rogan has a daughter - someday when she's older and some random jerk shoves his face into her boobs and calls her a c*nt, he'll get it.

polandprzem
06-04-2011, 01:44 PM
Actually, Rampage's actions were entirely inappropriate and Joe Rogan's comments were also way out of line. I know Rogan has a daughter - someday when she's older and some random jerk shoves his face into her boobs and calls her a c*nt, he'll get it.

Rampage really did that?



Umm Bryant was cool with that. There was some interview with her on some radio show or something. You can find it @ core

desflood
06-04-2011, 01:57 PM
I heard that she said it didn't bother her; it's entirely possible she was telling the truth. The fact that it may not have bothered her does not make it an appropriate action.

I agree that many people are too sensitive about many, many things. "Sexual harrassment" has been way overblown, frankly. It just seems to me that what Rampage pulled was a really asshole move, and Rogan had no business getting into it at all, much less in such a personal way. Any man who can't think of a better word than c*nt to describe a woman loses a little of my respect.

MannyIsGod
06-04-2011, 02:38 PM
Actually, Rampage's actions were entirely inappropriate and Joe Rogan's comments were also way out of line. I know Rogan has a daughter - someday when she's older and some random jerk shoves his face into her boobs and calls her a c*nt, he'll get it.

I don't get how its sexual harassment if she didn't mind. However, I agree that Rogan calling women cunts is out of line.

I don't even know if its inappropriate. Its flirtation, and its pretty hardcore flirtation but if she didn't mind then I don't think its anything wrong.

MannyIsGod
06-04-2011, 02:43 PM
After watching the video I don't see how anyone can say that was inappropriate. I take it back, I can see it, but I think they're wrong. Thats flirtation.

desflood
06-04-2011, 06:18 PM
I can see where a man might believe that harmless fun. As a woman, when I shake a man's hand and say, "Congratulations," I hardly expect him to move his face to within an inch of my boobs and shake it back and forth as a way of saying, "Thank you". It's classless and terribly off-putting.

HighLowLobForBig-50
06-04-2011, 06:22 PM
what if that was your wife? wold you still accept it or brush it off?
if its gonna go on, then fine. but dont ever try and put ufc in the same sentence as NFL, NBA, MLB. which im sure is what Dana would like to be able to do. he thinks he can play both sides and still win? maybe he can, but the bottom line is, the shit dont make a lick uh damn sense.

Stringer_Bell
06-04-2011, 07:25 PM
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Rampage has been doing dumb shit for a long time, and its been hit and miss. Let's see if he's still laughing after Jones get done with him.

dbreiden83080
06-04-2011, 07:30 PM
:lol

Page is insane

But i love em..

LakerHater
06-04-2011, 08:39 PM
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CubanSucks
06-05-2011, 01:32 AM
are any of you actually stupid enough to believe that that chick wasn't offended?

DMX7
06-05-2011, 12:22 PM
That's what I call the old full-court press! Badda Bing!

dbreiden83080
06-05-2011, 12:59 PM
are any of you actually stupid enough to believe that that chick wasn't offended?

She has interviewed Page many times before i have seen Page be playful in the past and she just laughs it off. If she is so offended she would not bother interviewing him.. Perhaps she is not so stuffy about this nonsense..

HighLowLobForBig-50
06-05-2011, 02:11 PM
are any of you actually stupid enough to believe that that chick wasn't offended?

thank you. and i dont think its stupidity as much as they have have their UFC goggles on

desflood
06-05-2011, 03:20 PM
She has interviewed Page many times before i have seen Page be playful in the past and she just laughs it off. If she is so offended she would not bother interviewing him.. Perhaps she is not so stuffy about this nonsense..
You're not that naive, db. You must know that sometimes people remain silent about things that happen in the workplace because of what might happen if they say anything. Hendricks got called an absolutely filthy word for speaking out against it and she wasn't even involved. What do you think will happen to Bryant if she makes a fuss? It's not as though she can just "bother" to not interview him. She has a boss, like everybody else, and her boss tells her what to do, just like everybody else. Know what happens when you don't do what the boss tells you to do? You get fired. Maybe she likes her job and wants to keep it, even when it calls for dealing with ill-mannered, self-entitled jerks.

dbreiden83080
06-05-2011, 04:03 PM
You're not that naive, db. You must know that sometimes people remain silent about things that happen in the workplace because of what might happen if they say anything. Hendricks got called an absolutely filthy word for speaking out against it and she wasn't even involved. What do you think will happen to Bryant if she makes a fuss? It's not as though she can just "bother" to not interview him. She has a boss, like everybody else, and her boss tells her what to do, just like everybody else. Know what happens when you don't do what the boss tells you to do? You get fired. Maybe she likes her job and wants to keep it, even when it calls for dealing with ill-mannered, self-entitled jerks.

Now we are making about 10 million assumptions here. Go to youtube and see other interviews he has done with her. He is friendly and playful and she is playful with him as well. Sometimes Page can cross a line and do stupid shit but in this case i think he has had a friendly back and forth with this reporter in the past and knew he could say what he said and she would not run to the bathroom and cry her eyes out or dread having to interview him again because she'll get fired if she doesn't...

Straight from the horses mouth.. "She calls it funny and that she and Page were goffing off in other interviews in the past so she was cool with it".. That

"Everyone knows he is a wacky guy which is why they all line up to interview him"

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desflood
06-05-2011, 04:21 PM
I'm not assuming that what I said is the case; I'm just making the point that it is a possibility. There is the other point people are making, which is that just because this reporter is willing to put up with a certain amount of shenanigans what he did was still unprofessional and inappropriate. It crossed way over the "goofing off" line.

Rampage isn't wacky; he's a bit of a narcissist.

polandprzem
06-05-2011, 05:07 PM
You're not that naive, db. You must know that sometimes people remain silent about things that happen in the workplace because of what might happen if they say anything. Hendricks got called an absolutely filthy word for speaking out against it and she wasn't even involved. What do you think will happen to Bryant if she makes a fuss? It's not as though she can just "bother" to not interview him. She has a boss, like everybody else, and her boss tells her what to do, just like everybody else. Know what happens when you don't do what the boss tells you to do? You get fired. Maybe she likes her job and wants to keep it, even when it calls for dealing with ill-mannered, self-entitled jerks.

Wow so now Bryant has a boss that tells her to laugh when somebody will rub her boobs?

Nice

desflood
06-05-2011, 06:03 PM
Wow so now Bryant has a boss that tells her to laugh when somebody will rub her boobs?

Nice

Let's go over this again, shall we?

I'm not assuming that what I said is the case; I'm just making the point that it is a possibility.

In my dealings with the men just in this thread, I am beginning to think that Bryant was indeed amused by Rampage. Not because what he did was amusing, but because men are truly too stupid to comprehend what is inappropriate and what the word "maybe" means, and that is kind of funny.

Thanks for the laugh guys. I needed it :lol

CubanSucks
06-05-2011, 10:13 PM
Wow so now Bryant has a boss that tells her to laugh when somebody will rub her boobs?

Nice

what are people's usual reaction when they're embarrassed? Watch her in that first video for the answer


"Everyone knows he is a wacky guy which is why they all line up to interview him"

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this doesn't change a thing. I don't think she's staying up at night crying over what happened, but I sure as fuck think she was probably embarrassed at some point. It's completely normal do deny that you were offended or embarrassed

"I'm definitely the type who speaks what's on my mind...If he had done something I didn't like you would all know it" :lmao 99.99% of women always say this shit

dbreiden83080
06-05-2011, 10:18 PM
This is getting a little personal..

Page just keep it in your pants big boy.. :lol

polandprzem
06-06-2011, 02:16 AM
In my dealings with the men just in this thread, I am beginning to think that Bryant was indeed amused by Rampage. Not because what he did was amusing, but because men are truly too stupid to comprehend what is inappropriate and what the word "maybe" means, and that is kind of funny.

Thanks for the laugh guys. I needed it :lol

That is an inappropriate post

In my dealing with women I noticed that they are too stupid to recognize their comments being inappropriate.


Awful just awful desflood

desflood
06-06-2011, 08:41 AM
But if I had grabbed your ass and told you that you made me hot it would have been no big deal, right? :lol

polandprzem
06-06-2011, 08:54 AM
But if I had grabbed your ass and told you that you made me hot it would have been no big deal, right? :lol

Depends how would you do it and in what situation.




And btw. did Rampage grabbed her boobs ?

desflood
06-06-2011, 09:25 AM
Here's your situation: I just won a sporting contest. You come up to shake my hand and say, "Congratulations". I then make multiple sexual references that you neither expected nor solicited, but you put up with it because it's your job.

I didn't see that he touched her, no. Even he's not that stupid. Oh wait, yes he is.

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The guy's got a history of bad behavior with women, so this incident isn't really surprising. And once again, just because he didn't touch this one does not make what he did less inappropriate.

desflood
06-06-2011, 09:33 AM
And you know, I should apologize to everybody. Not every man is stupid, and I shouldn't lump you all into that category.

Rampage is still an asshole, though.

desflood
06-06-2011, 09:33 AM
Double post.

CubanSucks
06-06-2011, 02:49 PM
Here's your situation: I just won a sporting contest. You come up to shake my hand and say, "Congratulations". I then make multiple sexual references that you neither expected nor solicited, but you put up with it because it's your job.

I didn't see that he touched her, no. Even he's not that stupid. Oh wait, yes he is.

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The guy's got a history of bad behavior with women, so this incident isn't really surprising. And once again, just because he didn't touch this one does not make what he did less inappropriate.

OH!! Silly Rampage being Rampage!

"But, but, she was laughing!"

Stringer_Bell
06-06-2011, 07:51 PM
And you know, I should apologize to everybody. Not every man is stupid, and I shouldn't lump you all into that category.

:cry

Rampage shoukd apologize to men reporters for not giving them the honour of motor boating them. I'm looking at you, Ariel Hawani.

LakerHater
06-08-2011, 06:17 PM
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CubanSucks
06-08-2011, 07:02 PM
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this is dumber than the bud light commercial he did

dbreiden83080
06-08-2011, 09:09 PM
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this is dumber than the bud light commercial he did

The Bud Light ad is not on him.. He just shows up and reads his lines.

This was on him and yeah love ya Bones but it kinda sucked..

polandprzem
06-09-2011, 04:25 PM
Here where the bad blood come to play Rampage vs Bones

Rampage hates when somebody tells him what he should do or not do