I think we have some serious trading chips

[twilo73]

I'm not advocating trading all our young players, NOT AT ALL, but I do think we have nice trading chips in Blair, Neal, Splitter, Anderson, Hill, and TP.

We for example could offer more than LA for Howard I think.

We can also package one of the first three especially with RJ for a player we can start.

Bottom line if Pop and RC can really give this team a face lift if they get creative and talk a good game with other teams. Really give us a team that can win it all next week.

[mountainballer]

right.
but as we know, Pop and RC will fuck up the Howard trade you propose.
and they will reject all the great offers for RJ, for reasons none can ever understand.

[tdunk21]

^ true

[clambake]

what would be considered a great offer for RJ?

[tdunk21]

what would be considered a great offer for RJ?

any offer to get rid of him imho

[mariners]

Neal and TP don't have that much value, TP cause of his contract and Neal cause he is a 1 dimensional player like jet

[twilo73]

what would be considered a great offer for RJ?

A that that involves RJ and Blair or Splitter for a real starter at SF or C.

[yavozerb]

Damn, another trade thread...why didnt I think of that?

[lefty]

This thread is depressing

[baseline bum]

I'm not advocating trading all our young players, NOT AT ALL, but I do think we have nice trading chips in Blair, Neal, Splitter, Anderson, Hill, and TP.

We for example could offer more than LA for Howard I think.

We can also package one of the first three especially with RJ for a player we can start.

Bottom line if Pop and RC can really give this team a face lift if they get creative and talk a good game with other teams. Really give us a team that can win it all next week.

Are you serious? A 23 year-old Bynum has way more trade value than Parker and the rest are journeymen.

[Guajalote]

Are you serious? A 23 year-old Bynum has way more trade value than Parker and the rest are journeymen.

MAN! What a monster game! 45, 14, & 10? You never hear about games like that anymore- college or pros. What a stud.

[Nathan89]

Neal and TP don't have that much value, TP cause of his contract and Neal cause he is a 1 dimensional player like jet

Terry gets paid 10mil per year for his one dimension.

[DMX7]

RJ gets paid 10mil per year for his no dimensions. :(

[mariners]

Terry gets paid 10mil per year for his one dimension.

sure, but its 1 dimension mavs desperatly need, Spurs have bigger needs than outside shooting and scoring.

[twilo73]

Are you serious? A 23 year-old Bynum has way more trade value than Parker and the rest are journeymen.

Bynum has also proven that he will never be healthy.

[mexpurs21]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=668jy2k

[G-Dawgg]

Well I hope they make some changes to improve... As of now, I'm not terribly excited about next season if we're going to war with pretty much the same team that got schooled in the first round except a year older.

We need a bit of a boost...
We need something to at least be excited about for next season after such a big disappointment.

[dbreiden83080]

what would be considered a great offer for RJ?

Bag of chips and a Diet Coke..

[mariners]

Bag of chips and a Diet Coke..
skittles

[jjktkk]

RJ gets paid 10mil per year for his no dimensions. :(

:lol

:depressed

[dbestpro]

Bonner may have some value to the right team. Afterall, for most of the season he was the top 3 point shooter in the league.

[Tyrone Jenkins]

It's interesting to me how Spurs fans think other teams are oblivious to RJ's play and how his contract is much greater than his value.

Any of you thinking that RJ can be traded - think about this...

Let's say you owned a 2008 Honda Accord. Good, attractive but not really fast or really luxurious. Dependable and you like it. You owe about $15k on it. Would you trade that for a 2001 Corvette w/ a bad engine, no AC, one of the windows doesn't roll down and you would owe $25k on it? And, no matter how much more $ you throw at it, it will never be the Corvette it once was?

[dbestpro]

It's interesting to me how Spurs fans think other teams are oblivious to RJ's play and how his contract is much greater than his value.

Any of you thinking that RJ can be traded - think about this...

Let's say you owned a 2008 Honda Accord. Good, attractive but not really fast or really luxurious. Dependable and you like it. You owe about $15k on it. Would you trade that for a 2001 Corvette w/ a bad engine, no AC, one of the windows doesn't roll down and you would owe $25k on it? And, no matter how much more $ you throw at it, it will never be the Corvette it once was?

PT Barnum - "There's a fool born every minute."

[TJastal]

PT Barnum - "There's a fool born every minute."

So true. And that fool turned out to be Pop/RC

:lol

[cantthinkofanything]

It's interesting to me how Spurs fans think other teams are oblivious to RJ's play and how his contract is much greater than his value.

Any of you thinking that RJ can be traded - think about this...

Let's say you owned a 2008 Honda Accord. Good, attractive but not really fast or really luxurious. Dependable and you like it. You owe about $15k on it. Would you trade that for a 2001 Corvette w/ a bad engine, no AC, one of the windows doesn't roll down and you would owe $25k on it? And, no matter how much more $ you throw at it, it will never be the Corvette it once was?

That's a dumbshit analogy. If you want to use it, then you'd have to also take into account that each party has multiple cars, each with their own benefitis to that particular owner. And that maybe one owner might be able to fix the trade car so that it better compliments his other cars.
Really stupid.

[Strike]

Bonner may have some value to the right team. Afterall, for most of the season he was the top 3 point shooter in the league.

I'm gonna guess that coaches and GM's are able to view playoff games where Boner gets nearly the same minutes as during the season while producing far, far less. If the dude was making much less or in the final year of his contract, he might be tradeable.

[ChuckD]

Neal and TP don't have that much value, TP cause of his contract and Neal cause he is a 1 dimensional player like jet

WTF? Parker's contract is EXTREMELY friendly for a 3 time AS. and an all NBA player and Finals MVP. I think he's making about $13M/yr.

[BackHome]

Parkers contract is realy team friendly that is one of the main reason I don't think we trade him. But Parker is not a player that you build a team around so while I don't see him being trade for the next season I do see him being traded the year after.

Our needs going into next year are starting SF, backup PF, and PG. I don't think we are going to do much until the new NBA contract is figured out and we know how much the cap is going to be.

One postion we are stacked at right now is SG with Anderson, Neal, Hill, and Manu. I would not mind trading one of the above players for maybe Nikola Vucivic Pf/C 7'0 and then trading Blair to move acquire Darrous Morris 6'5 pg........I could also live with Tristand Homas PF 6'9 or Jimmy Butler 6'8 SF...............

[UnWantedTheory]

It's interesting to me how Spurs fans think other teams are oblivious to RJ's play and how his contract is much greater than his value.

Any of you thinking that RJ can be traded - think about this...

Let's say you owned a 2008 Honda Accord. Good, attractive but not really fast or really luxurious. Dependable and you like it. You owe about $15k on it. Would you trade that for a 2001 Corvette w/ a bad engine, no AC, one of the windows doesn't roll down and you would owe $25k on it? And, no matter how much more $ you throw at it, it will never be the Corvette it once was?
Lol....terrible analogy.

[mariners]

WTF? Parker's contract is EXTREMELY friendly for a 3 time AS. and an all NBA player and Finals MVP. I think he's making about $13M/yr.
making 13 million a year is hardly friendly for a borderline top 10 PG which is what he is.

[UnWantedTheory]

making 13 million a year is hardly friendly for a borderline top 10 PG which is what he is.
Borederline top 10? Name 10 better than him.

[mariners]

Borederline top 10? Name 10 better than him.
what part of "borderline" do you not understand?

Right now:
Paul
Williams
Rose
Westbrook
Nash
Rondo

are all better than him then there are about 6-7 games near the same level of Parker you can argue one way or another for.

[spurspokesman]

Bag of chips and a Diet Coke..
Throw in A snicker bar and were in business:toast

[Tyrone Jenkins]

That's a dumbshit analogy. If you want to use it, then you'd have to also take into account that each party has multiple cars, each with their own benefitis to that particular owner. And that maybe one owner might be able to fix the trade car so that it better compliments his other cars.
Really stupid.

Name 1 team - ONE - that would trade their starting SF for Richard Jefferson.

He used to be good - now he's average. I'd love to see a better analogy...

[UnWantedTheory]

what part of "borderline" do you not understand?

Right now:
Paul
Williams
Rose
Westbrook
Nash
Rondo

are all better than him then there are about 6-7 games near the same level of Parker you can argue one way or another for.
6 or 7 names that are better than him doesn't mean borederline to me. He is top 10.

[yavozerb]

Paul, Williams, Rose,Nash = top pg's
Westbrook,Rondo,TP,Wall,Kidd = rounds out top 10

Not even close, TP is a top 10 pg...

[100%duncan]

what part of "borderline" do you not understand?

Right now:
Paul
Williams
Rose
Westbrook
Nash
Rondo

are all better than him then there are about 6-7 games near the same level of Parker you can argue one way or another for.

:lmao so he is still top 10 right? fuck you bitch :lmao

[Tyrone Jenkins]

Let's be real for a minute...

Tony Parker is definitely one of the better PGs in the NBA. He's not over the hill, he's not overpaid. He's good - not the best - but certainly an asset to whatever team he plays for. He's tradeable if needed. If not, he'll continue to contribute and contend for being the leader scorer on the Spurs. He will most certainly have the most assists.

Debate his value if you want but I can think of about 10 teams that would love to have him as their starting PG and can afford his contract. About half don't have assets that the Spurs would likely be interested in - the other half, I'd be surprised if they wanted to part ways w/ whatever assets the Spurs would ask for.