Why Isn't Bron Mentally Tough As Kobe

[Koolaid_Man]

I think it has something to do with no father in the home and a mom who couldn't raise him alone. Kobe had the pop who made him tough and mentally strong. Kobe's mom kicked his ass. Bron didn't have none of that. Kobe handled it all in stride. He took on Shaq which was unheard of , even after Shaq slapped his ass in practice Kobe kept gunning for his crown. He took on Colorado, the punk ass media, the lying bitch and more. No way Bron could handle that kind of pressure.

With each passing moment Bron makes Kobe's legacy grow. People starting to give my boy props and I know it must hurt they ass to do so...:lol

Wade was always Kobe lite. With one more Lebron post season loss coupled with one more Kobe title the floodgates of love will open up to Kobe and laker fan.

I'm just tickeled pink over this..I'm real giddy...:lmao

[mariners]

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[dbreiden83080]

He needs to start treating women like shit..

[dbreiden83080]

With each passing moment Bron makes Kobe's legacy grow.

:lol

People compare him to Jordan not Kobe. It's stupid but they make it all about Jordan when it comes to Bron..

[JamStone]

LeBron cares too much about the opinion of other people. And not just fans or the media. He cares what his teammates think. He wants to be their friend first, teammate second. Kobe doesn't give a fuck what other people think, not fans, not the media, not his teammates. He cares about himself and his legacy and winning in order to enhance himself and his legacy. Kobe doesn't give a fuck if people laugh at his 6-for-24. He doesn't care if you think he's a rapist or that he's a bad teammate. He cares how NBA history will perceive him, but not how he's perceived by the public. LeBron cares too much. He cares about his public image and media perception. He cares too much. If he cared only about basketball and winning, it would probably help him a great deal becoming a more mentally tough player. But he wants to be liked.

[Koolaid_Man]

Don't forget Dirk shoved Kobe in a hole and left him there in order to make all this happen.

It's like Lennox Lewis beating Tyson past his prime. Dirk couldnt handle Kobe when Kobe was in is genetic prime. That's why Dirk beating Bron and Wade in their prime is so devastating. Also, you guys beat us after 3 straight trips to the finals and an Olympics. Beat us next year then I'll fully concede and give Dirk his due. However, Dirk dam near choked that shit away las night and he hadn't played in 3 straight finals...so if you keeping it real then remember that shit. You guys won las night...enjoy it but don't get ahead of the game....you were like Busta Douglas on Mike Tyson when u played us...so enjoy it for the moment.

[Chomag]

Until he grows up, and matures he will not be mentally tough at his current frame of mind. He dances around and his childish antics are that of a teenager which does not translate to being a winner.

Will he ever grow up? I doubt anytime soon, not with how pampered he is by the league and ESPN.

[cheguevara]

LeBron cares too much about the opinion of other people. And not just fans or the media. He cares what his teammates think. He wants to be their friend first, teammate second. Kobe doesn't give a fuck what other people think, not fans, not the media, not his teammates. He cares about himself and his legacy and winning in order to enhance himself and his legacy. Kobe doesn't give a fuck if people laugh at his 6-for-24. He doesn't care if you think he's a rapist or that he's a bad teammate. He cares how NBA history will perceive him, but not how he's perceived by the public. LeBron cares too much. He cares about his public image and media perception. He cares too much. If he cared only about basketball and winning, it would probably help him a great deal becoming a more mentally tough player. But he wants to be liked.

so Kobe has autism?

[da_suns_fan]

Lebron won two games against the Mavs.

How many did Kobe win?

[cheguevara]

Wade won two games against the Mavs for Lebron.

How many did Gasol win for Kobe?

fify

[Koolaid_Man]

Lebron won two games against the Mavs.

How many did Kobe win?

All I know is the lakers were 26-13 prior to.the gasol trade. :lol
And I also know that a stAcked suns team couldn't get it done while Kobe was playing with chucky atkins, kwame brown, and smush parker..:lol

[z0sa]

If Kobe hadn't played with Shaq, no one would be mistaking him for mentally tough

dude is seriously weaksauce in the mental department, sure he's a tough-nosed scorer, that doesn't make him mentally tough, see the trade Bynum/trade me stuff, PJ's book, throwing Shaq under the bus like a punk when he got busted, and the monumental, record book failures of 2004 and 2008. Maybe even 2011, considering the expectations

[picc84]

Wade won two games against the Mavs.

[hater]

Kobe mentally tough??? :lmao

asking for trades cause Shaq Daddy is not here anymore is not mentally tough at all.

getting abused by scrubs like Raja Bell left and right until Papi Gasol came in is not mentally tough.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

LeBron cares too much about the opinion of other people. And not just fans or the media. He cares what his teammates think. He wants to be their friend first, teammate second. Kobe doesn't give a fuck what other people think, not fans, not the media, not his teammates. He cares about himself and his legacy and winning in order to enhance himself and his legacy. Kobe doesn't give a fuck if people laugh at his 6-for-24. He doesn't care if you think he's a rapist or that he's a bad teammate. He cares how NBA history will perceive him, but not how he's perceived by the public. LeBron cares too much. He cares about his public image and media perception. He cares too much. If he cared only about basketball and winning, it would probably help him a great deal becoming a more mentally tough player. But he wants to be liked.

I think you're on to something there. I think it ties into all the "Next Jordan" hype. If it were just about being equal or better than Kobe then wins and rings would suffice. But Jordan? Jordan did all his winning while being the face of the league, Nike, Hanes, McDonald's, and who knows what else. In that respect I don't think there can ever be another Jordan and I wonder if Lebron can even recognize that.

If the national sports media was then what it was now any and all of Jordan's less than flattering habits would be well known. I would have thought that it would have sank in after a year of watching the media do with the Heat what it's done a number of times of the last few years with other sports figures. They build them up and they have just as much fun tearing them down and playing up the fall from the grace they bestowed upon the athletes in the first place. They're like little kids with building blocks.

[Fabbs]

weak trolling. Kobes 6-24 is far worse choke then Bronbrons.

[Koolaid_Man]

If Kobe hadn't played with Shaq, no one would be mistaking him for mentally tough

dude is seriously weaksauce in the mental department, sure he's a tough-nosed scorer, that doesn't make him mentally tough, see the trade Bynum/trade me stuff, PJ's book, throwing Shaq under the bus like a punk when he got busted, and the monumental, record book failures of 2004 and 2008. Maybe even 2011, considering the expectations

If Shaq hadn't played in Orlando and lost in the finals and if he hadnt played with 2 all-stars (van exell and Eddie Jones) prior to Kobe's arrival I might agree with you.

Fact is Kobe was facing 20-to-life in Colorado and he was still dropping 40 + a night. Come again Jose.

Another fact...and if I have to I will queue the tapes and pull the stats. Kobe has owned Tom Duncan more than any player has owned another player in NBA history. That is no hype pure fact.

[ChumpDumper]

Kool just said Kobe is past his prime.

[Fabbs]

Fact is Kobe was facing 20-to-life in Colorado and he was still dropping 40 + a night. Come again Jose.
Is this supposed to be admirable?

Sociopathic narrcisist who is so self centered blocks out any pain he makes other feel? :toast:lol Go Kobes!

[Koolaid_Man]

Kool just said Kobe is past his prime.

Wow you can read....want a cookie...

FYI - he won his last 2 titles past his prime.

[Barfunk]

LeBron cares too much about the opinion of other people. And not just fans or the media. He cares what his teammates think. He wants to be their friend first, teammate second. Kobe doesn't give a fuck what other people think, not fans, not the media, not his teammates. He cares about himself and his legacy and winning in order to enhance himself and his legacy. Kobe doesn't give a fuck if people laugh at his 6-for-24. He doesn't care if you think he's a rapist or that he's a bad teammate. He cares how NBA history will perceive him, but not how he's perceived by the public. LeBron cares too much. He cares about his public image and media perception. He cares too much. If he cared only about basketball and winning, it would probably help him a great deal becoming a more mentally tough player. But he wants to be liked.

+1111 ...... Kobe has a virtuoso mentality

[Koolaid_Man]

Is this supposed to be admirable?

Sociopathic narrcisist who is so self centered blocks out any pain he makes other feel? :toast:lol Go Kobes!


Yes it is...very....20-to-life is nothing to scoff at...plus they was planning to make him watch child porn with an electrical impulse device around his dick to see how hard he got. If he got too hard they'd add time on to his sentence. No shit that's what he was facing.

[JamStone]

If the national sports media was then what it was now any and all of Jordan's less than flattering habits would be well known. I would have thought that it would have sank in after a year of watching the media do with the Heat what it's done a number of times of the last few years with other sports figures. They build them up and they have just as much fun tearing them down and playing up the fall from the grace they bestowed upon the athletes in the first place. They're like little kids with building blocks.

To go a little off tangent to your point... can you imagine if there were text messaging cell phones and Facebook in Jordan's time? I have friends in Chicago and a few times I've visited in the early 2000s, I would hear random stories from random people about how Jordan used to fuck their "friend" or "sister" or someone else they knew. Who knows how true those stories were, but like a lot of famous athletes, Jordan had his own share of dirt. Which goes back to text messaging and Facebook. As big of a celebrity as Jordan was, you'd have to imagine he would have gotten exposed at some point like Tiger Woods and those voice-mail messages or like Mark Sanchez and the pictures of his place by a minor. "Facebook updates" with Michael Jordan's face in some girls pie.

Would be quite amusing...

[Fabbs]

Yes it is...very....20-to-life is nothing to scoff at...plus they was planning to make him watch child porn with an electrical impulse device around his dick to see how hard he got. If he got too hard they'd add time on to his sentence. No shit that's what he was facing.
Burqua Bois with mascara videos?........Life sentence.

[dunkman]

Because of inferior coaching, Phil Jax makes some magic. He's the best ever. LeBron is otherwise much better than Kobe.

The Heat weren't ready to win it all this season. The big three are great, but they still lack interior presence and a good point guard.

[Fabbs]

Because of inferior coaching, Phil Jax makes some magic. He's the best ever. LeBron is otherwise much better than Kobe.

The Heat weren't ready to win it all this season. The big three are great, but they still lack interior presence and a good point guard.
Yep. Either Spoelstra was clueless or the players tuned him out. And akin is that his teamates/refs didn't carry him to victory like Kobes.
Shaq, Bob Horry, Gasol, Bynum, Swisher, Joey Crawford, Dick Bavetta.

Once again all we gotta ask is how would Kobes have done this year with the Heat minus LeBron.
1st round win maybe. 2nd round swept.

[Amaso]

cause Kobe is a bad motherfucker, while Lebron is a cuckold

Kobe knew he could rape a girl and get away with it, while Lebron is at home watching Delonte West banging his mom and Rashard Lewis banging his girlfriend.

[ducks]

I think it has something to do with no father in the home and a mom who couldn't raise him alone. Kobe had the pop who made him tough and mentally strong. Kobe's mom kicked his ass. Bron didn't have none of that. Kobe handled it all in stride. He took on Shaq which was unheard of , even after Shaq slapped his ass in practice Kobe kept gunning for his crown. He took on Colorado, the punk ass media, the lying bitch and more. No way Bron could handle that kind of pressure.

With each passing moment Bron makes Kobe's legacy grow. People starting to give my boy props and I know it must hurt they ass to do so...:lol

Wade was always Kobe lite. With one more Lebron post season loss coupled with one more Kobe title the floodgates of love will open up to Kobe and laker fan.

I'm just tickeled pink over this..I'm real giddy...:lmao

he probly never got spanked in his life
he probly never got punished in his life

[JamStone]

Once again all we gotta ask is how would Kobes have done this year with the Heat minus LeBron.
1st round win maybe. 2nd round swept.

I think there are different ways to answer this question. At this point in their respective careers, LeBron is a more dominant individual talent. Take away the mental aspect of the game, and most people even a good majority of Laker fans would agree that LeBron is the more talented player.

I do think there are plenty of people who would argue that if you replace LeBron with Kobe, the Heat would still be in a similar position as the Heat were already. If you talk about a Wade-Kobe back court with probably Mike Miller filling in at starting SF, the Heat would still be a great team. They wouldn't have been as good defensively, but still a team to be reckoned with in the East playoffs.

Now let's rephrase the question by asking if you replace LeBron with Kobe and in those four losses in the NBA Finals, with the Heat ahead by double digits in I think 2 or 3 of those contests and at the very least with the score close enough for either team to win in the fourth quarter, would Kobe have no-showed the same way as LeBron did? Now we know Kobe quit on the Lakers in 2006 when he basically acknowledged his team just wasn't good enough. But you put him on a team that has a legitimate chance to win, would he have been a reluctant shooter, seemingly afraid of the moment, afraid of shooting? Win or lose, would he have played that way or would he have gone down shooting and doing everything he could to win, even if it ended up with a loss?

The question isn't about whether Kobe now is still as talented as LeBron. It's about the mentally toughness of each player. Would Kobe feel insecure? Would he play tentatively? I think those questions are more relevant in this discussion.

[Amaso]

I don't see any way the Heat would've lost with Kobe. The Heat "should've" won if Lebron played at an average or even slightly below average level. He didn't even play good on the defensive end of the ball in the latter part of the series, which he was trying to claim he was. It really came down to Lebron playing extremely passively and that cost his team a title.

[dbestpro]

Lebron needs a coach that is willing to get into his grill. Imgine what Daly or Red would do with Lebron. Even Pop (before he went soft) would be better.