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Uriel
06-18-2011, 03:12 AM
Ginobili ready to rise from the ashes

Though he stressed that the Grizzlies eliminated the Spurs “really fair and square,” he contends the Spurs were nonetheless title-worthy.

“I truly believe … if we could have beat them, and been healthy, we could have made it,” he said. “I don’t think we were that much less than OKC or the Lakers or Mavs or Heat. I think we had a shot. Memphis played really well and aggressively and just beat us.”

More importantly, Ginobili is convinced the Spurs remain a future NBA title contender.

“It’s hard to say when a team has its last shot,” he said. “Of course, the Bulls lost Michael Jordan and couldn’t make another run. But we’ve got the same core of players, and nothing changed dramatically, so why not? I believe in our players and our organization, so I believe we do have another shot.”

(http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/06/17/ginobili-ready-to-rise-from-the-ashes/)Read the rest at:
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/06/17/ginobili-ready-to-rise-from-the-ashes/

TJastal
06-18-2011, 07:50 AM
Love the positive attitude Manu has. He's absolutely right the spurs had the team to go far in these playoffs and beat the grizz.

But he's in denial about one thing though, the guy running the show, pulling the strings. Matt Bonner's role on the team isn't likely going to change, it will probably even expand furthur from 22 minutes a game to 25 minutes next season and will set the stage for another avalanche of snow to come crashing down on the spurs' title hopes in April. And there won't be any "one more shots" after next season, that will be the final nail in the coffin for Timmy & Manu. Sad way to go out for these two classy players who refuse to say one bad word about the guy whose buffoonery has cost them the chance to furthur expand their legacies. (lakers and mavs obviously grateful, though).

Gagnrath
06-18-2011, 08:04 AM
TJastal, pop has made some mistakes as a coach and GM, but he hasn't been the primary cause the spurs having continued play-off success the last few years, unless you want to blame him for an inability to get the two most desired commodities in the league on a shoestring budget. I am not happy with the restructure of jefferson's contract, but Bonner is not over-payed nor should he be dropped from the team. He is over utilized but that is more due to a lack of other options than a true desire to turn him into e star or legitimate starter.

The trading of a Scola is a questionable move but it was highly uncertain that he would have ever put on an NBA uniform if the spurs had retained his rights since somewhere in that mess his agent had become very strongly against his playing for the spurs, and he was making a very nice living in the euroleagues.

benefactor
06-18-2011, 08:12 AM
Stealing intellectual property will get you in trouble.

TJastal
06-18-2011, 08:22 AM
TJastal, pop has made some mistakes as a coach and GM, but he hasn't been the primary cause the spurs having continued play-off success the last few years

:tu

TJastal
06-18-2011, 08:30 AM
TJastal, pop has made some mistakes as a coach and GM, but he hasn't been the primary cause the spurs having continued play-off success the last few years, unless you want to blame him for an inability to get the two most desired commodities in the league on a shoestring budget. I am not happy with the restructure of jefferson's contract, but Bonner is not over-payed nor should he be dropped from the team. He is over utilized but that is more due to a lack of other options than a true desire to turn him into e star or legitimate starter.

The trading of a Scola is a questionable move but it was highly uncertain that he would have ever put on an NBA uniform if the spurs had retained his rights since somewhere in that mess his agent had become very strongly against his playing for the spurs, and he was making a very nice living in the euroleagues.


Spurs would have had an opportunity last season to get rid of Jefferson. His contract was expiring and would have been an attractive option to teams like the bobcats who were looking dump salary. Gerald Wallace obviously being the key contract here that was available. With Bonner there's really no excuses for why he's signed through 2013. Saying there aren't better options is stupid. Scour the D leagues and you could find dozens of better options. These are just classic examples of the stupidity from Pop/FO. That popsuckers continue to make excuses for year in year out.

yavozerb
06-18-2011, 08:46 AM
Spurs would have had an opportunity last season to get rid of Jefferson. His contract was expiring and would have been an attractive option to teams like the bobcats who were looking dump salary. Gerald Wallace obviously being the key contract here that was available. With Bonner there's really no excuses for why he's signed through 2013. Saying there aren't better options is stupid. Scour the D leagues and you could find dozens of better options. These are just classic examples of the stupidity from Pop/FO. That popsuckers continue to make excuses for year in year out.

Did the spurs win 60+ games this last season? The only team that I feared going into the playoffs against this last season where the Grizzlies. The spurs matched up very well against every other team in the playoffs but got and unfortunate 1st rd draw. No reason for Manu to think they could not do it again next season and possible be healthy heading into the playoffs which ultimatly is the key for another championship. To say that Bonner is a D league player is just you being you and showing off your knowledge of NBA baskebtall...keep up the good work

SenorSpur
06-18-2011, 08:57 AM
Spurs would have had an opportunity last season to get rid of Jefferson. His contract was expiring and would have been an attractive option to teams like the bobcats who were looking dump salary. Gerald Wallace obviously being the key contract here that was available.


Yeah, I thought about that one too. It would've almost been worth it for them to have kept RJ on the same expensive contract and then try to have dumped his contract at the trade deadline.

With Bonner there's really no excuses for why he's signed through 2013.

Reupping Bonner was truly the definition of "throwing good money after bad."

yavozerb
06-18-2011, 09:09 AM
Yeah, I thought about that one too. It would've almost been worth it for them to have kept RJ on the same expensive contract and then try to have dumped his contract at the trade deadline.


Reupping Bonner was truly the definition of "throwing good money after bad."

Tell me this, what would the spurs be able to get with bonners 3mil saved this offseason?

TJastal
06-18-2011, 09:10 AM
Did the spurs win 60+ games this last season? The only team that I feared going into the playoffs against this last season where the Grizzlies. The spurs matched up very well against every other team in the playoffs but got and unfortunate 1st rd draw. No reason for Manu to think they could not do it again next season and possible be healthy heading into the playoffs which ultimatly is the key for another championship..

I agree totally. The spurs had the team to compete and get to the finals last year. Even beat the grizz. But that's only if Pop plays Splitter throughout the year and uses Bonner sparingly. Which he didn't. Playing Bonner 20+ minutes a game against arguably the worst team in the league for Bonner to match up is what ultimately led to the spurs' demise. That's what really aggravates me. Even after it was obvious by game 3 that Bonner was being dominated in the paint and causing all kinds of problems for the spurs defensively Pop still had use his pussy ginger 20 minutes a game. It's almost as if his stubborn ego wouldn't allow him to stop. Even down 2-1 the spurs STILL had their chances in that series if Pop stays exclusively big with Splitter, which as we all know his ego simply wouldn't allow it.

There is one thing I'm certain of, Carlslile wouldn't have let his ego & pride stand in the way of the team. If the matchups demanded size he would have used his size. That's why Pop fails at coaching.

TJastal
06-18-2011, 09:14 AM
Tell me this, what would the spurs be able to get with bonners 3mil saved this offseason?

For starters, minutes for Tiago. Maybe a little more wiggle room at the trade deadline to make a deal.

Hard to argue that saving 3m + getting PT for Tiago is not a win/win.

SenorSpur
06-18-2011, 09:14 AM
Ginobili ready to rise from the ashes

Though he stressed that the Grizzlies eliminated the Spurs “really fair and square,” he contends the Spurs were nonetheless title-worthy.

“I truly believe … if we could have beat them, and been healthy, we could have made it,” he said. “I don’t think we were that much less than OKC or the Lakers or Mavs or Heat. I think we had a shot. Memphis played really well and aggressively and just beat us.”

More importantly, Ginobili is convinced the Spurs remain a future NBA title contender.

Obviously I love Manu's talent, passion and drive - not to mention his leadership. However, just like Pop, I think there's a bit of denial going on there with those comments. Healthy or not, they were not going to beat the Grizzlies. The one team that was more than equipped to expose them.

Again the Spurs' issues are they've become an average defensive team - even poor on the perimeter, along with a lack of size on the frontline. Manu and Duncan are simply not capable of shouldering the same load for long periods, as they have in the past.

The decline of this team mirrors the decline in play of its star players. As a result, this team is trending downward from being a once-great team to just a very good playoff team. Regular season records be dammed, what matters is what a team does in the playoffs. This team has gotten swept out in 2010 and then toppled by an 8th-seeded team in 2011.

There are no shortcuts or instant free agent fixes. They must grow the team through the draft. The only way the Spurs are going to get better players via the draft is by securing a better draft position. Unless they're planning on buying or trading their way up into the first round (which I highly doubt), the only way to secure a better draft position is by having a poor record. The instant injection of talent and a reward for season-long suckiness.

yavozerb
06-18-2011, 09:17 AM
For starters, minutes for Tiago. Maybe a little more wiggle room at the trade deadline to make a deal.

Hard to argue that saving 3m + getting PT for Tiago is not a win/win.

Of course minutes, but that was not mentined in the previous thread..Not sure how 3mil for a player with a team salary close to 70 mil. is alot of wasted salary..

TJastal
06-18-2011, 09:20 AM
Yeah, I thought about that one too. It would've almost been worth it for them to have kept RJ on the same expensive contract and then try to have dumped his contract at the trade deadline.


Reupping Bonner was truly the definition of "throwing good money after bad."

Getting Gerald Wallace for Richard Jefferson's expiring contract would have been well worth paying the tax for one season IMO. A no-brainer.

I understand Holt-cat isn't filthy rich, but he's not living on skid row, either.

Gagnrath
06-18-2011, 10:31 AM
Bonner isn't really the problem, Bonner getting more than 10 to 12 per game is a symptom of the issue of not having an athletic bigman to pair with duncan and now timmy is no longer dominate merely above average starter.

TJastal
06-18-2011, 10:44 AM
Bonner isn't really the problem, Bonner getting more than 10 to 12 per game is a symptom of the issue of not having an athletic bigman to pair with duncan and now timmy is no longer dominate merely above average starter.

:rolleyes

Tiago Splitter would have been more than adequate to do the job. But for some reason Pop wouldn't play him all year long. Until the very end of course, when it was too late. Ultimate bitch move by a bitch coach whose time has expired.

Team amassed 60+ wins but it came at the expense of Timmay being injured once again due to overstress. Having to defend the paint singlehandedly year after year tends to do that. Manu also getting hurt in a meaningless game didn't help matters either.

jjktkk
06-18-2011, 10:51 AM
:rolleyes

Tiago Splitter would have been more than adequate to do the job. But for some reason Pop wouldn't play him all year long. Until the very end of course, when it was too late. Ultimate bitch move by a bitch coach whose time has expired.

Team amassed 60+ wins but it came at the expense of Timmay being injured once again due to overstress. Having to defend the paint singlehandedly year after year tends to do that. Manu also getting hurt in a meaningless game didn't help matters either.

Are you Tim's doctor?

Ginobilly
06-18-2011, 10:59 AM
:rolleyes

Tiago Splitter would have been more than adequate to do the job. But for some reason Pop wouldn't play him all year long. Until the very end of course, when it was too late. Ultimate bitch move by a bitch coach whose time has expired.

Team amassed 60+ wins but it came at the expense of Timmay being injured once again due to overstress. Having to defend the paint singlehandedly year after year tends to do that. Manu also getting hurt in a meaningless game didn't help matters either.


But, but, Splitter doesn't spread the floor and has no corporate knowledge. He would just get into Tim's Duncan way. I just wish they would trade him for somebody that could help Tim. How about Splitter for Scalabrine? Him and Matt Bonner would provide the ultimate "Ginger Power" that the Spurs need to win the 2012 championship.

Even though I'm not really too fond of Parker, he is the only Spur with balls enough to criticize the FO to pressure them to get better.

TJastal
06-18-2011, 11:05 AM
Are you Tim's doctor?

Are you?

ChumpDumper
06-18-2011, 11:19 AM
http://www.journerdism.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/broken-record.jpg

ChumpDumper
06-18-2011, 11:20 AM
And don't copy stories and blogs in full from mysa.

jjktkk
06-18-2011, 11:20 AM
Are you?

You stated that Duncan was overstressed, how do you know this? What were the telltale signs? you seem to know what your talking about, but I could be wrong.

ChumpDumper
06-18-2011, 11:21 AM
lol overstress

silverblk mystix
06-18-2011, 11:40 AM
lol overstress

LOL Chump Vehemently denying that he defends Pop....

silverblk mystix
06-18-2011, 11:40 AM
...yet...

here comes Chump to Pop's rescue in...

5,4,3,....

TJastal
06-18-2011, 11:42 AM
You stated that Duncan was overstressed, how do you know this? What were the telltale signs? you seem to know what your talking about, but I could be wrong.

Ankle turns/sprains are usually due to overstress which causes those joints and muscles to be weakened and susceptible. Of course it could have been a freak accident but it's not likely.

It's obvious that Blair & Bonner are both major defensive liablities, McDyess was too old to be the #2 big next to Duncan even the season before this one. And predictably, Duncan's ankle gave out a week after Pop's genius "tweaking" of the lineup which saw McDyess once again "returned" to the starting lineup when Duncan needed the guy with more size, strength, and youth (Tiago Splitter).

And it probably didn't help team morale that Pop was fellating the lakers in the press at every opportunity.

TJastal
06-18-2011, 11:42 AM
...yet...

here comes Chump to Pop's rescue in...

5,4,3,....

:lmao

ChumpDumper
06-18-2011, 11:43 AM
LOL Chump Vehemently denying that he defends Pop....Maybe you can explain why Tim was medically overstressed, doctor.

Go ahead.

ChumpDumper
06-18-2011, 11:44 AM
Now an ankle turn is an "overstress" injury?

:rollin

You guys are hilarious.

silverblk mystix
06-18-2011, 11:47 AM
Maybe you can explain why Tim was medically overstressed, doctor.

Go ahead.

Maybe you can explain why Bonner should be a major rotation player?

Go ahead. In detail,please.

ChumpDumper
06-18-2011, 11:48 AM
Maybe you can explain why Bonner should be a major rotation player?

Go ahead. In detail,please.I have stated plainly several times he is overused.

So now explain in detail how turning one's ankle during a basketball game is due to overstress, doctor.

silverblk mystix
06-18-2011, 11:52 AM
I have stated plainly several times he is overused.

So now explain in detail how turning one's ankle during a basketball game is due to overstress, doctor.

Wrong poster. Never mentioned TD's ankle.

ChumpDumper
06-18-2011, 11:55 AM
Wrong poster. Never mentioned TD's ankle.I know, but TJ is being a pussy about it and you guys have a nice little bromance going, so I figured you might have a line on his thinking.

ducks
06-18-2011, 11:58 AM
manu might believe but reality is spurs have to make changes
parker is living in reality

splitter would really have to improve if spurs do not make changes if they contend and even get to the wcf

TJastal
06-18-2011, 12:04 PM
Chumdumpster

Do you deny that weaker ankles are at a higher risk of rolling/turning?

ChumpDumper
06-18-2011, 12:05 PM
Chumdumpster

Do you deny that weaker ankles are at a higher risk of rolling/turning?Your medical opinion is that Duncan's ankles were weaker due to what, doctor?

DesignatedT
06-18-2011, 12:07 PM
lol career low in minutes for Duncan. You need to realize he and Manu are around 35 years old now. Very unlikely either of them makes it through a whole season healthy again.... even if Dwight Howard is suiting up next to Tim and especially if Manu plays this summer for Argentina.

Proxy
06-18-2011, 12:08 PM
We all know what went wrong. We all know what we need, and we all know who doesn't need to be playing.

And of course Manu still believes. Nigga is a fucking beast and a man. He isn't a little bitch like Parker.

TJastal
06-18-2011, 12:12 PM
Your medical opinion is that Duncan's ankles were weaker due to what, doctor?

Already told you. Having to be the lone enforcer in the paint all year long. Really not all that complicated to figure out. Same old story as the past 4 years. Timmy worn down to the nub late in the season thanks to Pop pairing him with gingers and soft 3's who can't carry their weight, so instead the extra ends up on Timmy's shoulders.

You should probably know this movie by now, we've seen some variation of it 4 years running so far.

TJastal
06-18-2011, 12:13 PM
lol career low in minutes for Duncan. You need to realize he and Manu are around 35 years old now. Very unlikely either of them makes it through a whole season healthy again.... even if Dwight Howard is suiting up next to Tim and especially if Manu plays this summer for Argentina.

Saving 3-4 extra minutes a game doesn't mean much compared to having to carry the burden for the other 25.

ChumpDumper
06-18-2011, 12:14 PM
Already told you. Having to be the lone enforcer in the paint all year long.That isn't a medical opinion.

How does being the "lone enforcer" affect the actual tissue in question, doctor?

TJastal
06-18-2011, 12:15 PM
And need I remind:

Jason Kidd - 38 years old
Shawn Marion - 33
Jason Terry - 34
Dirk - 32

TJastal
06-18-2011, 12:16 PM
That isn't a medical opinion.

How does being the "lone enforcer" affect the actual tissue in question, doctor?

You don't need a doctor to use common sense.

ChumpDumper
06-18-2011, 12:18 PM
You don't need a doctor to use common sense.So you just made it up.

OK. You've done that before.

silverblk mystix
06-18-2011, 12:19 PM
That isn't a medical opinion.

How does being the "lone enforcer" affect the actual tissue in question, doctor? I am a 60,000 post PIT BULL...and you just made a medical judgement---I will now clamp down on this for 4 or 5 more pages of PIT BULL semantics....ain't I an awesome E-lawyer....PIT BULL LAW OFFICES!!!!
:toast

Do what you do cumdumpster. Yawn.

jjktkk
06-18-2011, 12:22 PM
So you just made it up.

OK. You've done that before.

:lol

ChumpDumper
06-18-2011, 12:23 PM
:toast

Do what you do cumdumpster. Yawn.As long as people like you and TJ make up such easily exposed bullshit -- you make it simple. :toast

jjktkk
06-18-2011, 12:25 PM
You don't need a doctor to use common sense.

Have you ever played basketball before? If you have(highly unlikely), then you would know that "turning" your ankle is a very common injury, which is what happened to Duncan and countless other basketball players.

ChumpDumper
06-18-2011, 12:30 PM
Have you ever played basketball before? If you have(highly unlikely), then you would know that "turning" your ankle is a very common injury, which is what happened to Duncan and countless other basketball players.Any doctor will tell you you are more likely to land on another player's foot if you are forced to be the lone enforcer playing 300 fewer minutes a season.

It's a medical fact.

DesignatedT
06-18-2011, 12:35 PM
:lol

TJastal
06-18-2011, 12:44 PM
Any doctor will tell you you are more likely to land on another player's foot if you are forced to be the lone enforcer playing 300 fewer minutes a season.

It's a medical fact.

If your ankle is weakened it is much more likely to turn on another player's foot.

Shove that medical fact up your ass, dickhead.

ChumpDumper
06-18-2011, 12:46 PM
If your ankle is weakened it is much more likely to turn on another player's foot.

Shove that medical fact up your ass, dickhead.lol U mad?

How does being the "lone enforcer" for about 300 fewer minutes weaken the ankle tissue, doctor?

jjktkk
06-18-2011, 12:49 PM
If your ankle is weakened it is much more likely to turn on another player's foot.

Shove that medical fact up your ass, dickhead.

Where did you get your doctor's degree at?

TJastal
06-18-2011, 12:54 PM
lol U mad?

How does being the "lone enforcer" for about 300 fewer minutes weaken the ankle tissue, doctor?

Common sense would tell you if you had any brains.

TJastal
06-18-2011, 12:55 PM
Where did you get your doctor's degree at?

CSU

Common Sense University.

Bill_Brasky
06-18-2011, 12:58 PM
Chumdumpster

Do you deny that weaker ankles are at a higher risk of rolling/turning?

Tim turned his ankle by stepping on somebody's foot. Something that is quite common in basketball and a fluke injury.


Next.

ChumpDumper
06-18-2011, 12:59 PM
CSU

Common Sense University.Well, it's not a surprise you made up a university after making up all this other shit.

TJastal
06-18-2011, 01:07 PM
Well, it's not a surprise you made up a university after making up all this other shit.

If I'm so full of shit then why is your ass all sore and blistered about my
un-medically supported opinion, huh? Why spend all this time trying to refute it?

ChumpDumper
06-18-2011, 01:09 PM
If I'm so full of shit then why is your ass all sore and blistered about my
un-medically supported opinion, huh?You're the one who melted down a few posts back tbh.
Why spend all this time trying to refute it?I spent no time at all trying tbh.

It was self-refuting because you posted it. :toast

TJastal
06-18-2011, 01:12 PM
Tim turned his ankle by stepping on somebody's foot. Something that is quite common in basketball and a fluke injury.


Next.

Most of us have watched how the extra wear and tear on Tim Duncan in the past 4 years has taken its toll. It's because he has no help in the paint; this is plainly obvious. Finley, Bonner, Jefferson, Blair... they all have been used as power forwards next to Timmy and they all suck at defense.

This isn't just about a rolled ankle, it is a symptom of a larger problem.

Blake
06-18-2011, 01:25 PM
Most of us have watched how the extra wear and tear on Tim Duncan in the past 4 years has taken its toll. It's because he has no help in the paint; this is plainly obvious. Finley, Bonner, Jefferson, Blair... they all have been used as power forwards next to Timmy and they all suck at defense.

This isn't just about a rolled ankle, it is a symptom of a larger problem.

yeah, but he had it easy until 2003 when Dave retired, so those years he got to slack off on defense cancel out the last 4.

Common sense.

TJastal
06-18-2011, 01:30 PM
yeah, but he had it easy until 2003 when Dave retired, so those years he got to slack off on defense cancel out the last 4.

Common sense.

Not common sense.

It would have been easier for Tim to carry the load back then when he was young and invincible. Asking him to do it in his 30's and at this stage in his career is the back-breaker.

Sean Cagney
06-18-2011, 01:50 PM
Did the spurs win 60+ games this last season? The only team that I feared going into the playoffs against this last season where the Grizzlies. The spurs matched up very well against every other team in the playoffs but got and unfortunate 1st rd draw. No reason for Manu to think they could not do it again next season and possible be healthy heading into the playoffs which ultimatly is the key for another championship. To say that Bonner is a D league player is just you being you and showing off your knowledge of NBA baskebtall...keep up the good work

They stumbled down the stretch though after that LA game, going into next season with a near 60 win team being the same will not work! They had bad interior D and relied on threes, that formula never works in the playoffs! Grizz got in the lane at will, eventually you will face a team like that in the playoffs whether first or WCF and it would be the same result.

The way Dallas was playing we would not have beaten them anyways this year, the team was not made up for a deep run and those who know the game knew it all along.

spurs10
06-18-2011, 02:29 PM
Pop and RC have both addressed the fact that they are looking for help in the post. I got the feeling, from RC especially, that we probably won't be seeing Tim and Tiago playing together very much because they're both playing the 5. There's no reason to think we can't improve going into next year. Standing pat is unlikely.

jimo2305
06-18-2011, 03:18 PM
i still blame RJ more than anyone mentioned in this thread

Uriel
06-19-2011, 01:14 AM
Here's a link to the full interview:

Q&A with Manu Ginobili
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/06/18/qa-with-manu-ginobili/

itzsoweezee
06-19-2011, 01:50 AM
No team that gives as big a role to as bad a player as Bonner has any shot at winning a championship. Accept it now, peons. Popovich has thrown it all away for that red haired bastard.

ChumpDumper
06-19-2011, 04:03 AM
lol Common Sense University medical degree

Brazil
06-19-2011, 10:30 AM
Manu is delusional tbh

silverblk mystix
06-19-2011, 10:53 AM
No team that gives as big a role to as bad a player as Bonner has any shot at winning a championship. Accept it now, peons. Popovich has thrown it all away for that red haired bastard.

True.



Yet...only a few can see this...and apparently Pop never will...and if Pop ever does...or Bonner manages to somehow get in Pop's doghouse...

Pop will just find another mancrush....

Gee...can anyone be worse than....FINLEY>BONNER>________??????

Mr Fundamental
06-19-2011, 11:36 AM
And that's the difference between Parker and Manu.

Manu is our heart.

Spursnlego
06-19-2011, 05:58 PM
:ihit Thats right, fight till the absolute finish!

mingus
06-19-2011, 06:28 PM
Chump, you need your own forum section.

Scrolling through ur redundant, antagonistic bull on a daily basis is fucking ridiculous.

Everyday, i spend half my time on here scrolling through your drivel.

that is a waste of my time, esp. on a iphone, where i do most of my posting/reading.

and i have a lot less time to waste on a forum than you, quite apparently.

the least you can do is not needlessly post shit in a single line format so that it makes scrolling through your incessant whining a little easier.

thank you.

mingus
06-19-2011, 06:48 PM
as for what Manu is saying. had he played the first game of the series against Memphis (and i hated that Manu basically had no say in that decision), we'd have won. no way Memphis comes back from 0-2 deficit. i think we would've beat OKC for sure. the Mavs would have been a toss up. it's usually pretty close with them. we weren't beating Miami though. that 30 point loss in Miami and the one against LA in SA told me the team wasn't championship material. Spurs defense just wasn't where it needed to be + they struggled to score easy post baskets.

the latter is something that hopefully Splitter can provide next year. Duncan struggled to score in the post against LA this year and at crucial times against Memphis as well. he's just not that reliable a scorer anymore. maybe next year he comes in with a better mid range game, but at this point in his career i doubt it. the Spurs aren't ever going to get the Duncan of old back. no franchise player on this team anymore.

a couple things that might compensate for that: Splitter showing that he can score in the post consistently enough so that essentially we'd have two solid low post threats in Duncan and Splitter. maybe he and Duncan both put up 13-14ppg. i don't think that scenario is a stretch. maybe closer to reality is Splitter putting up 10 ppg and Duncan staying at where he was this year.

one thing i hope to see next year behind RJ being traded is RJ developing some semblance of a post game (like Shawn Marion). with his body and size it's ridiculous that he hasn't, but RJ has made fortunes just on athleticism. he added a jumpshot last year. maybe next year he comes in with a post game. it'd be nice, but probably wishful thinking.

i've kind of lost a little hope on Blair. not sure if he's got the mentality or maturity to reach his potential. i think he'll be one of those guys that just never reaching his potential. i've got nothing to go by, just a feeling. but if he can come in next year much better, never no what can happen (but i said this this year, so i'm not relying on him).

good thing is the Spurs have got a lot of solid young talent. the core is old but Splitter/Blair/JA/Hill can all theoretically improve a lot ON PAPER. plus there's still this year's draft pick. whether they take small steps, no steps, or giant leaps next year we won't know til next year. one thing for sure is there's still that possibility so not all hope is lost.

ChumpDumper
06-19-2011, 07:40 PM
Chump, you need your own forum section.

Scrolling through ur redundant, antagonistic bull on a daily basis is fucking ridiculous.

Everyday, i spend half my time on here scrolling through your drivel.

that is a waste of my time, esp. on a iphone, where i do most of my posting/reading.

and i have a lot less time to waste on a forum than you, quite apparently.

the least you can do is not needlessly post shit in a single line format so that it makes scrolling through your incessant whining a little easier.

thank you.Don't get any of those tears on your precious iPhone, bitch.

lefty
06-19-2011, 07:42 PM
Manu is retarded

ALVAREZ6
06-20-2011, 02:42 AM
Chump, you need your own forum section.

Scrolling through ur redundant, antagonistic bull on a daily basis is fucking ridiculous.

Everyday, i spend half my time on here scrolling through your drivel.

that is a waste of my time, esp. on a iphone, where i do most of my posting/reading.

and i have a lot less time to waste on a forum than you, quite apparently.

the least you can do is not needlessly post shit in a single line format so that it makes scrolling through your incessant whining a little easier.

thank you.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao +1

ChumpDumper
06-20-2011, 04:23 AM
Damn, the bitches are coming out.

Are you guys familiar with the ignore feature?

TJastal
06-20-2011, 01:12 PM
Damn, the bitches are coming out.

Are you guys familiar with the ignore feature?

lol bitches

TJastal
06-20-2011, 01:15 PM
Damn, the bitches are coming out.

Are you guys familiar with the ignore feature?

lol coming out

TJastal
06-20-2011, 01:16 PM
Damn, the bitches are coming out.

Are you guys familiar with the ignore feature?

lol familiar

TJastal
06-20-2011, 01:17 PM
Damn, the bitches are coming out.

Are you guys familiar with the ignore feature?

lolz ignore

Ross Parrot
06-20-2011, 01:22 PM
If we used the ignore feature then however would we listen to the great KBP?

ChumpDumper
06-20-2011, 01:23 PM
If we used the ignore feature then however would we listen to the great KBP?I didn't say to ignore him.