View Full Version : Reality Check: 2012 Kobe will be no better than 2003 Jordan
cheguevara
06-20-2011, 02:50 PM
Now that lakerfan is slowly crawling back into the forums and trying to talk after an asswhopping at the hands of JJ Barea. :lol
Let's take a reality check and compare Kobe's latest season to Jordan's last 2 years as a Wizard:
40 year old MJ:
22 ppg
4.5 apg
6 rpg
1.5 spg
2.4 to
.5 blk
44 FG%
80 FT%
2011 Kobe:
25 ppg
4.7 apg
5.1 rpg
1.2 spg
3 to
.2 blk
45 FG%
83 FT%
facts don't lie. Kobe is aging, and not well. It's common sense that 2012 will be no better for him, but worse. He will drop below a 40 year old Jordan production. In other words, he will be a borderline allstar nothing more.
Time to wake up to reality lakerfan. Do you really believe your team can go anywhere with a 40 year old Jordan type at the helm? :lmao
JamStone
06-20-2011, 02:54 PM
My guess is that 2011 cheguevara is getting worse than 2010 cheguevara, which is discouraging since 2010 cheguevara was already a bottom 3 poster on ST.
cheguevara
06-20-2011, 02:57 PM
don't shoot the messenger Jammy. Facts are facts.
Koolaid_Man
06-20-2011, 02:58 PM
yes
Nick Manning
06-20-2011, 03:00 PM
If this goes like che's other predictions, then I guess Kobe will be MVP in 2012.
Koolaid_Man
06-20-2011, 03:03 PM
lol
Killakobe81
06-20-2011, 03:06 PM
My guess is that 2011 cheguevara is getting worse than 2010 cheguevara, which is discouraging since 2010 cheguevara was already a bottom 3 poster on ST.
LOL, as the Spurs title chances fade, Che's posts become more desperate and pathetic. It happens.
cheguevara
06-20-2011, 03:14 PM
lakerfan. please post why you disagree with my assessment? It's pretty clear and pretty simply stated. Kobe's numbers are in the decline. Please try to stay on topic.
Nathan89
06-20-2011, 03:14 PM
:lol
40yo Jordan+Gasoft+CavsCoach=NbA FUckEd
:lmao
in2deep
06-20-2011, 03:22 PM
If 2012 Kobe is 40 year old Jordan, who is 2012 Fisher? :lmao
Amaso
06-20-2011, 03:25 PM
Now that lakerfan is slowly crawling back into the forums and trying to talk after an asswhopping at the hands of JJ Barea. :lol
Let's take a reality check and compare Kobe's latest season to Jordan's last 2 years as a Wizard:
40 year old MJ:
22 ppg
4.5 apg
6 rpg
1.5 spg
2.4 to
.5 blk
44 FG%
80 FT%
2011 Kobe:
25 ppg
4.7 apg
5.1 rpg
1.2 spg
3 to
.2 blk
45 FG%
83 FT%
facts don't lie. Kobe is aging, and not well. It's common sense that 2012 will be no better for him, but worse. He will drop below a 40 year old Jordan production. In other words, he will be a borderline allstar nothing more.
Time to wake up to reality lakerfan. Do you really believe your team can go anywhere with a 40 year old Jordan type at the helm? :lmao
http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/mj-laughing.gif
Nathan89
06-20-2011, 03:27 PM
http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/mj-laughing.gif
:lmao Jordan laughing at Kobe.
Amaso
06-20-2011, 03:27 PM
:lmao Jordan laughing at Kobe.
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in2deep
06-20-2011, 03:30 PM
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Killakobe81
06-20-2011, 03:54 PM
lakerfan. please post why you disagree with my assessment? It's pretty clear and pretty simply stated. Kobe's numbers are in the decline. Please try to stay on topic.
No one said he wasnt in decline ...but to dignify a obvious and weak troll attempt, by debating you would make me as big as a fool as you are.
In the past 3 seasons he went from a top 3 player to a top 5-10 player ...some would argue higher but anyone that says he is not a top 10 player is silly. Hell dirk was not considered a top 5 player by some before last season, and led his team to a title. Kobe doesnt need to be MVP Kobe to win a title.
The only "reality" that needs to be checked, is yours.
Check.
No one said he wasnt in decline ...but to dignify a obvious and weak troll attempt, by debating you would make me as big as a fool as you are.
In the past 3 seasons he went from a top 3 player to a top 5-10 player ...some would argue higher but anyone that says he is not a top 10 player is silly. Hell dirk was not considered a top 5 player by some before last season, and led his team to a title. Kobe doesnt need to be MVP Kobe to win a title.
The only "reality" that needs to be checked, is yours.
Check.
lol you started off good by refusing to debate but your weakness overtook you and you debated it.
hater
06-20-2011, 09:15 PM
No one said he wasnt in decline ...but to dignify a obvious and weak troll attempt, by debating you would make me as big as a fool as you are.
In the past 3 seasons he went from a top 3 player to a top 5-10 player ...
I would say in 2 years he went from a top 3 to borderline top 10.
Next year he could possibly drop out of the top 10 and be as low as top 15-20
jjktkk
06-20-2011, 09:18 PM
I would say in 2 years he went from a top 3 to borderline top 10.
Next year he could possibly drop out of the top 10 and be as low as top 15-20
This sounds kinda Vince Carterish tbh.
scanry
06-21-2011, 03:57 AM
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Damn Shaq was lean & mean back in the days. Is this from 2000 finals?
Venti Quattro
06-21-2011, 05:15 AM
Damn Shaq was lean & mean back in the days. Is this from 2000 finals?
Somewhere from 04 to 07 basing from his uniform.
Leetonidas
06-21-2011, 07:54 AM
2003 Jordan is probably still better than Kobe now.
Agloco
06-21-2011, 09:13 AM
Jordan at 40 >>> Kobe at 33
:lol
Riddler
06-21-2011, 09:26 AM
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cheguevara
06-21-2011, 09:29 AM
on a side note: swap 40 year old Jordan for Kobe on the 2011 lakers and no way in hell Barea sweeps them :lol
Agloco
06-21-2011, 11:28 AM
Michael always used MSG and the Knicks as his personal toilet tbh.
dbreiden83080
06-21-2011, 11:44 AM
I saw Ice Cube or Ice T whatever that jack-asses name is on Sportscenter the other day saying on a Lakers round-table, "You'll see next year Kobe has not slowed down at all" :lol
Yeah he is 33 with a bone on bone knee.. I'm sure he's as spry as ever.
Daddy_Of_All_Trolls
06-21-2011, 12:12 PM
The premise of this thread could become true, Kobe must markedly decline at some point. However, chances are Kobe's 2012-14 teams should be better than MJ's 2003 team, by a wide margin.
pass1st
06-21-2011, 12:17 PM
Jordan played more minutes his last season than this Season's Kobe at that age too, pretty amazing how he kept in shape.
dunkman
06-21-2011, 04:10 PM
Kobe is no MJ, but he is an all time great. He's still going strong on offense with efficient scoring. MJ at 40 missed a lot of shots, Kobe's FG% may be lower but he gets fouled a lot.
However, the Wizards had few good players, which allowed defenses to focus on MJ. Kobe played with Gasol/Bynum/Odom/Artest last season.
chequevera's Burrito
06-21-2011, 04:29 PM
long time no see, che. why have you been blowing me off bud?
chequevera's Iguana
06-21-2011, 04:30 PM
long time no see, che. why have you been blowing me off bud?
you look tasty. feed me che!
chequeveras Sombrero
06-21-2011, 04:31 PM
long time no see, che. why have you been blowing me off bud?
you're telling me..me and che used to be inseparable :depressed
Agloco
06-21-2011, 04:32 PM
I wonder how Kobe's 2018-2019 team would fare.......
cheguevara
06-22-2011, 08:24 AM
I wonder how Kobe's 2018-2019 team would fare.......
The Geriatrics will come in 3nd in the YMCA league
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