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George Gervin's Afro
06-27-2011, 10:10 AM
A member of the Wisconsin Supreme Court's liberal faction has accused a conservative justice of choking her during an argument in her office earlier this month -- a charge he denied.

Supreme Court Justice Ann Walsh Bradley told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that Justice David Prosser put her in a chokehold during the dispute. She contacted the newspaper late Saturday after Prosser denied rumors about the altercation.

"The facts are that I was demanding that he get out of my office and he put his hands around my neck in anger in a chokehold," Bradley told the newspaper.

A message could not be left at her home listing, and her former campaign manager did not return a call from The Associated Press.

Wisconsin Public Radio and the Wisconsin Center for Investigative Journalism, quoting anonymous sources, first reported the argument occurred before the Supreme Court's decision earlier this month upholding Republican Gov. Scott Walker's bill eliminating most of public employees' collective bargaining rights. Prosser then released a statement denying the allegations.

"Once there's a proper review of the matter and the facts surrounding it are made clear, the anonymous claim made to the media will be proven false," he said. "Until then I will refrain from further public comment."

Prosser's spokesman Brian Nemoir declined to comment on Bradley's later statement and told The Associated Press that Prosser probably wouldn't either. Other members of the court either did not return messages or declined to comment on the incident.

The argument took place June 13, the day before the court, in a 4-3 decision that included a blistering dissent, ruled that Dane County Circuit Judge Maryann Sumi overstepped her authority when she declared the polarizing union law void. While accounts differ, the justices were apparently discussing the decision and its timing.

Leaders in the Republican-controlled Legislature had pushed for a decision by June 14 because they were working on the state budget, and Walker's proposal depended on expected savings from the law. Along with limiting most public employees' bargaining rights, it requires them to pay 12 percent of their health insurance costs and 5.8 percent of their pension costs.

Tens of thousands of people gathered for weeks at the Capitol to protest the proposal after Walker unveiled in February. Once it passed, opponents began to focus on Prosser's re-election campaign in the hope that by replacing him with a liberal justice, they could get the court to overturn the legislation.

Prosser, who had been expected to walk away with the election, found himself in a tight race with liberal challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg. Initial results showed she had defeated Prosser by about 200 votes, and she declared herself the winner the day after the election. Then a county clerk who once worked for Prosser announced she had failed to report 14,000 votes.

A bitter and nearly month-long recount ended with Prosser's re-election. He defeated Kloppenburg by about 7,000 votes.

The recount ended about three weeks before the Supreme Court issued its opinion in the union case. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, quoting an anonymous source, said the argument erupted after Chief Justice Shirley Abrahamson said she didn't know whether the opinion would be released in June. Prosser allegedly questioned Abrahamson's leadership, leading Bradley to defend her.

Prosser and Abrahamson, another of the court's liberal minority, had had problems before. Prosser told the newspaper in March that he had used profanity in a meeting the month before and threatened to destroy Abrahamson.

Bradley sent all the justices an email after that meeting, saying Prosser's behavior was unacceptable. She said later that she considered making a report to law enforcement but decided against it.

The Center for Investigative Journalism reported the altercation between Prosser and Bradley had been brought to the attention of the Wisconsin Judicial Commission, which investigates allegations of misconduct involving judges. The commission's executive director, James Alexander, said he couldn't confirm nor deny an incident was under investigation.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/26/wisconsin-justice-says-court-fight-led-to-choking/#ixzz1QUP0B9L7


I guess the 'choke' was on her..

boutons_deux
06-27-2011, 10:18 AM
right-wing nutcases "blaming the victim",

oops, sorry, one is not a "victim", but an "accuser" (like rape victims to be called Georgia)

In Response To Prosser Choking Allegations, Fox’s Van Susteren Calls On Female Chief Justice To Resign

And while I have no idea who is off the wall (Justice Prosser or Justice Walsh or both), I do know one thing, CHIEF JUSTICE SHIRLEY ABRAHAMSON sure is not doing her job to lead the court and to give confidence to the people of Wisconsin. She needs to step aside and let someone else attempt to run that zoo.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/06/27/254619/greta-on-prosser-choking/

George Gervin's Afro
06-27-2011, 10:27 AM
right-wing nutcases "blaming the victim",

oops, sorry, one is not a "victim", but an "accuser" (like rape victims to be called Georgia)

In Response To Prosser Choking Allegations, Fox’s Van Susteren Calls On Female Chief Justice To Resign

And while I have no idea who is off the wall (Justice Prosser or Justice Walsh or both), I do know one thing, CHIEF JUSTICE SHIRLEY ABRAHAMSON sure is not doing her job to lead the court and to give confidence to the people of Wisconsin. She needs to step aside and let someone else attempt to run that zoo.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/06/27/254619/greta-on-prosser-choking/

I guess the fox crowd feels that the possibility of being choked is part of the job for a WI Supreme Court Justice...

Wild Cobra
06-27-2011, 11:02 AM
Another "He said She said," where one of them is the liar, or both.

Oh, Gee!!
06-27-2011, 11:39 AM
that must have been a hilarious scene: two geezers wrestling in black robes.

boutons_deux
06-27-2011, 12:14 PM
Seeing the fucking nastiness and polarization the Repugs have visited on famously moderate WI, the Prosser asshole choking a judge is in perfect harmony with Repug assholiness.

boutons_deux
06-27-2011, 02:24 PM
She FORCED him to do it. It's all her fault

David Prosser probably had a very good reason for putting his hands on a colleague's nec

Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice David Prosser seems to have a bit of a temper! And he also seems to maybe have a bit of a history of verbally and perhaps physically attacking women.

Human Events blames "Big Labor" for forcing Prosser to attack his colleagues.

Here's Ann Althouse's (a law professor!) defense:

ALSO: People may assume that the man is larger than the woman, but — from what I have heard — Bradley is significantly larger than Prosser. Bradley is also 7 years younger than Prosser, who is 68.


http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/06/27/prosser_mad/index.html

Winehole23
06-27-2011, 02:27 PM
Bitch made him do it. WI Supreme Court judge goes there.



(somebody, alert Trainwreck and Jack.)

Thompson
06-27-2011, 03:11 PM
So when did she first say this happened? The day of? Did she get pictures of the bruising to corroborate her story?

As far as I can tell, she told no one -until a week or so later. If your colleague choked you, would you keep that quiet until the evidence had disappeared?

A Supreme Court Justice would know what she had to do to prove her case against another Justice. She would know she couldn't just rely on 'she said/he said.' Unless she wasn't worried about trying a case in court, but only in the 'court' of public opinion.

And as far as the 'nastiness' boutons likes to attribute to Republicans up there, the union supporters were the ones threatening politicians.

"Please put your things in order because you will be killed and your familes will also be killed due to your actions in the last 8 weeks. Please explain to them that this is because if we get rid of you and your families then it will save the rights of 300,000 people and also be able to close the deficit that you have created. I hope you have a good time in hell."

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/10/wisconsin-republican-state-senators-receive-chilling-email-death-threat/#ixzz1QVcUsAjY

DarrinS
06-27-2011, 04:07 PM
http://www.chockfullonuts.com/imgs/bigCan.png

TeyshaBlue
06-27-2011, 04:42 PM
I guess the 'choke' was on her..

That pun gave me cancer.:depressed

boutons_deux
06-27-2011, 04:44 PM
Thompson

Did we ever hear out of WI any of the smash-mouth, union-busting, brutal nastiness before the current set of Repug assholes were elected?

And of course, their campaign platform was totally dishonest, hiding all this shit, just like the 2000 Repugs didn't say their priority was invading Iraq no matter what.

Thompson
06-27-2011, 06:00 PM
Thompson

Did we ever hear out of WI any of the smash-mouth, union-busting, brutal nastiness before the current set of Repug assholes were elected?

And of course, their campaign platform was totally dishonest, hiding all this shit, just like the 2000 Repugs didn't say their priority was invading Iraq no matter what.

:lol So you start a thread that says Republicans are blaming the victim, and then you blame the Republicans for doing things that earn them death threats. Gotcha.

boutons_deux
06-27-2011, 07:12 PM
"you blame the Republicans for doing things"

they DID those "things", like all sociopathic Repugs that got elected 2010. They're fucking up the country while protecting and enriching the corps and capitalists.

George Gervin's Afro
06-27-2011, 07:39 PM
:lol So you start a thread that says Republicans are blaming the victim, and then you blame the Republicans for doing things that earn them death threats. Gotcha.

The GOP complains ALOT...

jack sommerset
06-27-2011, 09:16 PM
"She contacted the newspaper late Saturday after Prosser denied rumors about the altercation."

That's what I would do if someone choked me!

Winehole23
06-28-2011, 02:25 AM
^^^took his hands off his wife's neck to type that.


(tapdancing)

Winehole23
06-28-2011, 03:31 AM
(boogaloo)

Winehole23
06-28-2011, 03:33 AM
(dubstep) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtMlB-BEMso)