Do you support Union VP Matt Bonner?

[Solid D]

Is the proposal the worst deal in pro sports?

The NBA owners’ latest offer would guarantee players no less than $2 billion per year for the duration of a 10-year deal, at an average salary of $5 million per player. Union officials say that represents a pay cut of $7 billion over the life of the deal, compared with the system in place now.

This deal with a hard cap or flex-cap appears to be untenable to the players association.

Are you on board with the Sandwich Hunter?

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Probably not all of pro sports, but it's nice to see the Players Union showing some smarts appointing him. I don't think you're going to hear any Ewing-esque PR gaffs about money coming from the World's Thriftiest Ginger.

[TimmehC]

If a multi-millionaire who drives a Grand Prix says you're being too cheap, you're probably being too cheap.

[suitedkings]

These NBA players have to accept some sort of pay cut like the rest of the US did. Tons of people went unemployed and many took pay cuts to keep their jobs. Why should they be any different?

[GSH]

Probably not all of pro sports, but it's nice to see the Players Union showing some smarts appointing him. I don't think you're going to hear any Ewing-esque PR gaffs about money coming from the World's Thriftiest Ginger.


Or Sprewell saying "he has a family to feed"? Yeah, Bonner was a smart pick.

So far all I've heard him say is that the league's first offer wasn't nearly good enough. That part is hard to argue with. If a fair offer gets shot down by the union, and he is in on it, then he won't be any different than the rest of them. No pass because he's a Spur.

[cd98]

Let me get this straight: As the clock ticks down and the 2012 NBA season hangs in the balance, we are relying on Bonner to pull this out in the clutch?

Haven't we learned our lesson from last season?

[suitedkings]

let me get this straight: As the clock ticks down and the 2012 nba season hangs in the balance, we are relying on bonner to pull this out in the clutch?

Haven't we learned our lesson from the last 4 seasons?

fyp!

[cheguevara]

appoint the cheapest motherfucker in pro sports as your salary negotiator. Genius. Pure Genius.

[Solid D]

There is no confirmation to the rumor that Bonner's last counter offer included "double-coupon Tuesdays" for all players.

[Mel_13]

4yr college graduate

3.96 GPA

degree in Business Administration

The only real question is why he's only the VP of the union.

[DesignatedT]

The NBA is officially locked-out.

[cheguevara]

I can just immagine....
ESPN: We have Breaking News Straight from NBA player-owner meetings!

Here is the VP of players union Mr. Matt Bonner

(Ginger comes trotting out of the meeting, with his usual goofy trot and grin)

Reporter: Mr Bonner any good news to report to us out of the meeting?

Bonner: Well they catered Potbelly's for lunch. It was sick!

reporter: but what about the negotiations?

Bonner: Well, we were very close. But then the owners proposed to introduce a league wide sandwich tax in order to make up for lost money. A 5% sandwich tax in every NBA arena! Including Canada! After I crunched the numbers in my spreadsheet, I realized this was very detrimental to us the players. So no deal.

reporter: but, Mr. Bonner!! why would.....

Bonner: that's all folks good night.

(gets in his 02 pontiac grand prix and leaves)

[cheguevara]

"We tried to avoid a lockout. Unfortunately we could not reach a deal."

:downspin:

[jeebus]

He didn't spread the negotiating floor very well. :(

[cheguevara]

ESPN: We have Breaking News Straight from NBA player-owner meetings!

Here is the VP of players union Mr. Matt Bonner

(Ginger comes trotting out of the meeting, with his usual goofy trot and grin)

Reporter: Mr Bonner any good news to report to us out of the meeting?

Bonner: Well they catered Potbelly's for lunch. It was sick!

reporter: but what about the negotiations?

Bonner: Well, we were very close. But then the owners proposed to introduce a league wide sandwich tax in order to make up for lost money. A 5% sandwich tax in every NBA arena! Including Canada! After I crunched the numbers in my spreadsheet, I realized this was very detrimental to us the players. So no deal.

reporter: but, Mr. Bonner!! why would.....

Bonner: that's all folks good night.

(gets in his 02 pontiac grand prix and leaves)

[Bruno]

Owners proposal are just horrible. The hard cap at $45M require players to cut their salary by 33% and the "flex cap" basically removes salary raises for 10 years. Given how well basketball goes last year, these are crazy propositions. I don't see how the lockout could be short if owners stick on these positions.

[cheguevara]

well you start at the extremes. that's how negotiations work.

[Gutter92]

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[ElNono]

I support Matt Bonner in this endeavor.

[SsKSpurs21]

so im guessing none of you fags realize PETER HOLT IS THE HEAD OF THE OWNERS UNION its bonner vs holt .....

reminds me of "remember the titans" when coach boone is talking to burtier.

holt: when you come back to playing you got your brothers on the team, and you got your daddy. and i know you know who your daddy is. bonner if you want to play on this team you better answer when i ask you, who is your daddy?
bonner: you
holt: and is this your team? or your daddys team?
bonner: yours
holt: good, not get on the bus. put your jacket on first, and then get on the bus.

[Splits]

well you start at the extremes. that's how negotiations work.

Not if your name is Obama, then you start in the middle, negotiate with yourself for a couple months and lurch another half-way over to your opponents side, and in the end wind up with nothing but crumbs.

[baseline bum]

Laugh all you want, but Bonner must be a persuasive motherfucker with the way he has conned Pop into that contract and all the playing time. If he can be half that successful here the new CBA will set the cap to $80 million and contracts will be 10 years, fully guaranteed.

[cd98]

so im guessing none of you fags realize PETER HOLT IS THE HEAD OF THE OWNERS UNION its bonner vs holt .....

Holt 4 rings

Bonner 0 rings

[Russ]

Laugh all you want, but Bonner must be a persuasive motherfucker with the way he has conned Pop into that contract and all the playing time. If he can be half that successful here the new CBA will set the cap to $80 million and contracts will be 10 years, fully guaranteed.

Jimmy Hoffa was one persuasive MF, too. And, like Matt, a staunch union man.

And both seem to have a permanent spot on the field of play.

[GSH]

4yr college graduate

3.96 GPA

degree in Business Administration

The only real question is why he's only the VP of the union.


Yep. Tier 1 university, and a real degree - not basketweaving. He was the Academic All-American of the Year for two years running. Give credit where it's due.

And why wouldn't they pick him as VP of the union with those credentials? Which player in the league is smarter, or has an education more suited for it?

[joshdaboss]

If a multi-millionaire who drives a Grand Prix says you're being too cheap, you're probably being too cheap.

Give the man a prize. He wins this thread.

[Solid D]

so im guessing none of you fags realize PETER HOLT IS THE HEAD OF THE OWNERS UNION its bonner vs holt .....

Well, I'm sure all the Spurs fans have known this but I'm glad you googled. By the way, it's not the owners union. Peter chairs the labor relations committee for the NBA Board of Governors.

[rascal]

Lock the players out for 3 years and they will be coming back for less than half of the offer. Lets see how much these players can make getting real jobs like the rest of us.

[Solid D]

Lock the players out for 3 years and they will be coming back for less than half of the offer. Lets see how much these players can make getting real jobs like the rest of us.

More like dodging coins on courts with trapezoid lanes.

[mingus]

I think players and owners need to share the revenue equally or as close to equal as possible.

And if that can't be done, and 22 teams are losing money, the commissioner should call for a reduction of teams. They league is too watered down and the product is suffering quite a bit because of that. The players shouldn't have to accept much less than 50 percent if the owners made a bad investment. And there are about 5-6 bad investments which are hurting the entire league.

[joshdaboss]

Lock the players out for 3 years and they will be coming back for less than half of the offer. Lets see how much these players can make getting real jobs like the rest of us.

Most of them would go overseas to play or play in the NFL. 95% of NBA athletes are superior to NFL athletes.

[jsandiego]

I think players and owners need to share the revenue equally or as close to equal as possible.

And if that can't be done, and 22 teams are losing money, the commissioner should call for a reduction of teams. They league is too watered down and the product is suffering quite a bit because of that. The players shouldn't have to accept much less than 50 percent if the owners made a bad investment. And there are about 5-6 bad investments which are hurting the entire league.
Yeah but the Union will never agree to contraction. That's a loss of 15 jobs per team contracted.

The NBA is losing money. Salaries and contract lengths are coming down. They have to. It's just a question of how much.

Maybe the players should be put on a profit-sharing plan instead of a revenue-sharing plan.

[ducks]

THE OWNERS HIRE The gms and owners signed off on the craZY DEALS LAST YEAR

THE MONEY NEEDS TO GO DOWN BUT THE OWNERS CAN SAY NO RIGHT?


I mean Cuban told NASH fuck you and your high salary demands... and what does steve nash have no NO RINGS

[++SaiNt TiAg0++]

yeah he has great credentials but during the school year he's a genius. ok now put his ass on the line and a ton of weight on this cowards shoulders and lets see how he performs....if its anything like the playoffs the players are F$%*^D

[DMC]

Yep. Tier 1 university, and a real degree - not basketweaving. He was the Academic All-American of the Year for two years running. Give credit where it's due.

And why wouldn't they pick him as VP of the union with those credentials? Which player in the league is smarter, or has an education more suited for it?
Or classier? Let's admit it.

[ShoogarBear]

lol Owners' Union

[DPG21920]

lol Owners' Union

I don't know why, but this made me laugh really, really hard.

[Solid D]

lol Owners' Union

Yeah, RocketfanYAO can't help himself. Once they descend and he goes through the maturation process, he'll embarrass himself less. They're so awkward at that age.

[SequSpur]

the only thing that this proves is that Ducks is still a fucking retard.

Who gives a shit, half of the nba was losing their ass including the spurs...

the spurs can't sell out a fucking playoff game....nobody gives a shit about the nba anymore...

it's obvious...spurs fucking play bonner 20 minutes...nobody wants to see that shit....

and pop is fucking boring, unmarketable and a douche bag....

[ShoogarBear]

Back to the original question, as somebody said in the NBA Forum, if they owners want a hard cap, then the players should come back and say there should be a hard cap on ticket prices and concessions, too.