FEC Rules Colbert Can Have SuperPac, talk about it on his show

[scott]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/06/stephen-colbert-allowed-to-form-super-pac-and-promote-it-on-his-show.html


Stephen Colbert, the comedic host of "The Colbert Report," was granted permission Thursday to not only form a political action committee but the privilege of promoting it on his show.

Predictions on how this may affect 2012 Elections? I have a feeling he is going to raise a shit ton of money.

[JoeChalupa]

This is interesting indeed.

[Trainwreck2100]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/06/stephen-colbert-allowed-to-form-super-pac-and-promote-it-on-his-show.html



Predictions on how this may affect 2012 Elections? I have a feeling he is going to raise a shit ton of money.

prob not THAT much his audience doesn't have much money. He's just doing it for the lols anyway

[Wild Cobra]

Predictions on how this may affect 2012 Elections? I have a feeling he is going to raise a shit ton of money.
I agree, he will make some big bux.

I'm sure he can sway some of the people. After all, there are a lot of stupid people out there. How many believe Sarah Palin said she can see Russia from her house, just because a comedian said that while playing her?

[ElNono]

Probably as stupid as Sarah's actual comment that the proximity of Russia to her home state of Alaska gives her foreign policy experience.

[ElNono]

Oh, and there's a few videos of that.

[Wild Cobra]

Yes, but in context it doesn't make her look like a fool, like the "Russia from my house" parody.

[Trainwreck2100]

Yes, but in context it doesn't make her look like a fool, like the "Russia from my house" parody.

yeah it does, that's like the mayor of SA saying he's got foreign policy experience cause we're so close to mexico

[ElNono]

Yes, but in context it doesn't make her look like a fool, like the "Russia from my house" parody.

Her actual words were:

GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.

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:lmao that shit still cracks me up :lmao

[Wild Cobra]

Her actual words were:

GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.

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:lmao that shit still cracks me up :lmao
It's a statement of fact.

I didn't know facts were so funny.

[ElNono]

It's a statement of fact.

I didn't know facts were so funny.

Look and analyze the question... look at the response. :rollin

Listen, you don't have to make excuses for her. She's a big girl, you know?

[Trainwreck2100]

It's a statement of fact.

I didn't know facts were so funny.

i can see a plane landing that doesn't mean i have experience as a pilot.

[Wild Cobra]

i can see a plane landing that doesn't mean i have experience as a pilot.
I guess you haven't see what follows in her reply then.

To stop a quote there does give the wrong impression. She did elaborate.

[ElNono]

tbh, Gibson should have a troll here. I think at some point he realized he was talking with an airhead and went for the lolz :lol

Thank you Charlie.

[Wild Cobra]

Look and analyze the question... look at the response. :rollin

Listen, you don't have to make excuses for her. She's a big girl, you know?
Not making excuses. I just notice when Tina Fey said "I can see Russia from my house," that too many people actually believe Sara said that!

Also, you didn't quote her entire response.

[ElNono]

She followed by dodging the question again:

GIBSON: What insight does that give you into what they're doing in Georgia?

PALIN: Well, I'm giving you that perspective of how small our world is and how important it is that we work with our allies to keep good relation with all of these countries, especially Russia. We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it's in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.

[ElNono]

Not making excuses. I just notice when Tina Fey said "I can see Russia from my house," that too many people actually believe Sara said that!

Also, you didn't quote her entire response.

Sorry, but that was her entire response to that particular question. I just posted what she answered to the next question.

About the Tina Fey stuff, you're just being butthurt. The original response is just as much comedy gold.

[Wild Cobra]

Sorry, but that was her entire response to that particular question. I just posted what she answered to the next question.
No it wasn't. She went on to talk about some of the trade activities in Alaska with Russians.

You have a redacted quote then.

[ElNono]

No it wasn't. She went on to talk about some of the trade activities in Alaska with Russians.

You have a redacted quote then.

This is the unedited transcript of that portion...

GIBSON: You believe unprovoked.

PALIN: I do believe unprovoked and we have got to keep our eyes on Russia, under the leadership there. I think it was unfortunate. That manifestation that we saw with that invasion of Georgia shows us some steps backwards that Russia has recently taken away from the race toward a more democratic nation with democratic ideals. That's why we have to keep an eye on Russia.

And, Charlie, you're in Alaska. We have that very narrow maritime border between the United States, and the 49th state, Alaska, and Russia. They are our next door neighbors.We need to have a good relationship with them. They're very, very important to us and they are our next door neighbor.

GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.

GIBSON: What insight does that give you into what they're doing in Georgia?

PALIN: Well, I'm giving you that perspective of how small our world is and how important it is that we work with our allies to keep good relations with all of these countries, especially Russia. We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it's in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.

We cannot repeat the Cold War. We are thankful that, under Reagan, we won the Cold War, without a shot fired, also. We've learned lessons from that in our relationship with Russia, previously the Soviet Union.

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lol accusing of redacting... do you have a different transcript?
I'm pretty sure you would have brought it up already.

[Wild Cobra]

Damn...

This should be a different thread, but I'm running out of time. Last post for the night.

I am wrong in that Palin mentioned foreign trade relations and dignitaries before that part of the interview. Chew on this article for a bit. I'll me back in the morning.

ABC News Edited Out Key Parts of Sarah Palin Interview (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/09/13/abc-news-edited-out-key-parts-sarah-palin-interview)

[ElNono]

Damn...

This should be a different thread, but I'm running out of time. Last post for the night.

I am wrong in that Palin mentioned foreign trade relations and dignitaries before that part of the interview. Chew on this article for a bit. I'll me back in the morning.

ABC News Edited Out Key Parts of Sarah Palin Interview (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/09/13/abc-news-edited-out-key-parts-sarah-palin-interview)

What's your point?. I posted what your link describes as the UNEDITED transcript...

Don't move the goalposts. That was her response to that question, and frankly it was hilarious. :lol

[DMX7]

In context, it makes her look even worse.

[scott]

You guys once again forget that Wild Cobra is kind of a stickler for the correct context.

He also never derails threads with non-sequitous tangents.

[George Gervin's Afro]

You guys once again forget that Wild Cobra is kind of a stickler for the correct context.

He also never derails threads with non-sequitous tangents.

nor does he resort to strawmen...

[RandomGuy]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/06/stephen-colbert-allowed-to-form-super-pac-and-promote-it-on-his-show.html



Predictions on how this may affect 2012 Elections? I have a feeling he is going to raise a shit ton of money.

That's awesome, you will be happy to know that a college of mine suggested that.

[RandomGuy]

Damn...

This should be a different thread, but I'm running out of time. Last post for the night.

I am wrong in that Palin mentioned foreign trade relations and dignitaries before that part of the interview. Chew on this article for a bit. I'll me back in the morning.

ABC News Edited Out Key Parts of Sarah Palin Interview (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/09/13/abc-news-edited-out-key-parts-sarah-palin-interview)

I read through it. They didn't edit out "key" portions of it.

They edited out the extraneous non-answers of the kind politicians are so often prone to give. You know, where you ask them about topic A, and they ignore it, spew some pre-packaged talking point.

Nothing they cut made her seem more "knowledgeable", and it was obviously done to save airtime and preseve context.

More fabricated bullshit about how "biased" the "liberal media is".

If you believe a website with the banner "exposing & combatting liberal media bias" is actually going to give you an unbiased take on anything, you are not looking at the material in that article in the correct context.

Given that critical thinking is not your strong point, I will hold your hand and show you exactly how.

The part ABC edited out, is in italics, and that is what the website took issue with.


GIBSON: And under the NATO treaty, wouldn’t we then have to go to war if Russia went into Georgia?

PALIN: Perhaps so. I mean, that is the agreement when you are a NATO ally, is if another country is attacked, you’re going to be expected to be called upon and help.

But NATO, I think, should include Ukraine, definitely, at this point and I think that we need to — especially with new leadership coming in on January 20, being sworn on, on either ticket, we have got to make sure that we strengthen our allies, our ties with each one of those NATO members.

We have got to make sure that that is the group that can be counted upon to defend one another in a very dangerous world today.

GIBSON: And you think it would be worth it to the United States, Georgia is worth it to the United States to go to war if Russia were to invade.

PALIN: What I think is that smaller democratic countries that are invaded by a larger power is something for us to be vigilant against. We have got to be cognizant of what the consequences are if a larger power is able to take over smaller democratic countries.

And we have got to be vigilant. We have got to show the support, in this case, for Georgia. The support that we can show is economic sanctions perhaps against Russia, if this is what it leads to.

It doesn’t have to lead to war and it doesn’t have to lead, as I said, to a Cold War, but economic sanctions, diplomatic pressure, again, counting on our allies to help us do that in this mission of keeping our eye on Russia and Putin and some of his desire to control and to control much more than smaller democratic countries.

His mission, if it is to control energy supplies, also, coming from and through Russia, that’s a dangerous position for our world to be in, if we were to allow that to happen.

Her answer, was in essence, a super-long "maybe".

"it doesn't have to lead to war" generally implies "but it might". Again, a "maybe"

The fact that she very carefully doesn't say "no", fully implies that she would be willing to go to war if it came to that.

Is that or is that not a reasonable conclusion?