Race Is The Real Reason Most People Support The Owners Over The Players

[Koolaid_Man]

In pretty much every opinion poll I've voted in, most people support the owners over the players. Most of the excuses I've seen have been centered around not supporting selfish greedy players. I have to wonder about these fucking idiots who support owners who are just as greedy, make more than the players and make bad financial decisions to begin with.

Now you guys know I don't like using the race card....but I do wonder though...if the league was 90% white would these same people be for the owners...something tells me not. It reminds me of the republicans so masterfully getting poor white folk, and the middle class conservatives to vote against their own best interests in favor of companies that don't give 2 shits about them. :lol but I digress...but I think I'm right in this case...this is a referendum on the jealous majority hating to see these niggas getting paid...plain and simple...

Just like in Hockey....do you honestly beleive if the NHL was 90% black they would let them fight it out like they allow those white hockey players to do...No fucking way man...America would be too afraid to watch a bunch of niggas go upside each others head but they're fine with watching white violence...I guess their rationale would be:" We don't want to encourage those niggas"....:lol

Koolaid strikes again...

[ABDENOUR POWER]

Or many people just have a hard time sympathizing with (generally uneducated) players who are being paid hundreds of millions of dollars to play a game.

I realize the owners are unbelievably loaded, but when most of them are losing millions of dollars it doesn't take a genius to realize something needs to change.

Both sides have some fault, but I just have a hard time dealing with the sense of entitlement from the players. They need to put things in perspective.

[Leetonidas]

Majority of the black players in the NBA would be flipping burgers at McDonald's or in jail if they weren't gifted such amazing athletic abilities.

These are things we know.

[Leetonidas]

And fuck the players, they want player salaries to go up to an average of 7 million and 105 million per team? That was their best offer to prevent a lockout? Fucking greedy assholes, you're already getting paid A MINIMUM of like 500 grand a year to dribble a fucking ball while most doctors could never even dream of making that money.

I understand they are the best of the best and because the NBA is a very lucrative business they deserve to be paid but asking for the team's total salary to go up 30 million on average is ludicrous and just greedy. The owners are fucking retarded for giving these massive contracts out to shit players like Rashard Lewis and Hedo and now every player thinks they deserve more money.

Horseshit. Fuck all these guys

[Trainwreck2100]

i'm torn the owners shouldn't get a do over when they make a bad investment, but the players shouldn't make a shit ton of many when they don't do shit

[Koolaid_Man]

Or many people just have a hard time sympathizing with (generally uneducated) players who are being paid hundreds of millions of dollars to play a game.

I realize the owners are unbelievably loaded, but when most of them are losing millions of dollars it doesn't take a genius to realize something needs to change.

Both sides have some fault, but I just have a hard time dealing with the sense of entitlement from the players. They need to put things in perspective.


outside of Latrell Sprewell...who I admire in a way....:lol the sense of entitlement comes from the owners. The players are the ones actually lacing em up to play...that's not entitlement that's hard work, albeit some do get lazy...but by and large the players are far from entitled...your sense of fairness is just what Republicans do to the majority of people...don't be fooled son...

For example:

You have a Tea Party member, a Union Member, and a Corporate Exec dining at a restaurant. A waiter brings out 12 freshly baked cookies and before anyone can say anything the corporate exec takes 11 of the cookies immediately...he then turns to the tea party member and says: " You better watch that Union guy he's trying to steal half your cookie."

So no entitlement is not on the side of the players it's from the owners...100% it's just how the world works son...you'll learn this shit one day...I'm trying to teach you like my pops taught me...:lol

[Koolaid_Man]

Majority of the black players in the NBA would be flipping burgers at McDonald's or in jail if they weren't gifted such amazing athletic abilities.

These are things we know.


Bingo....You prove my point :lol...but nonetheless they aren't flipping burgers...your sense of entitlement should have died years ago with the KKK being marginalized..I bet you think Affirmative Action is wrong as well huh? :lol Well let Kool enlighten you....Affirmative Action does nothing but "keeps honest people honest" no really it prevents the hearts of men from being false and discriminatory against my niggas. If you get into a college on Affirmative Action that doesn't mean you get to stay if you don't make the grades...what's more insidious and harmful to college institutions is Legacy Based admissions where you (whitey) can get failing grades but because grandpa donated 5 million to the school your dumb ass gets to stay failing grades or not...so let's be intellectually honest here...

and last I checked niggas didn't crash wall street, or steal billions ( Bernie Madoff, Ken Lay, Jeffery Skilling, etc, etc...I guess these guys are supremely gifted...:lol

[Koolaid_Man]

i'm torn the owners shouldn't get a do over when they make a bad investment, but the players shouldn't make a shit ton of many when they don't do shit


limit gauranteed contracts based on projections...for example Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Dirk, etc should be gauranteed, longer years...lesser players to lesser years...70 / 30 split of revenue...players reduce BRI to 52% (down from 57%) and no hard cap period and it's a win win for all....I hope the players are prepared to sit out 2 yrs...I will be sad for my brothers if the owners win....:toast

[Koolaid_Man]

And fuck the players, they want player salaries to go up to an average of 7 million and 105 million per team? That was their best offer to prevent a lockout? Fucking greedy assholes, you're already getting paid A MINIMUM of like 500 grand a year to dribble a fucking ball while most doctors could never even dream of making that money.

I understand they are the best of the best and because the NBA is a very lucrative business they deserve to be paid but asking for the team's total salary to go up 30 million on average is ludicrous and just greedy. The owners are fucking retarded for giving these massive contracts out to shit players like Rashard Lewis and Hedo and now every player thinks they deserve more money.

Horseshit. Fuck all these guys

So let me get this straight...you're saying fuck Tim Duncan...:lol if you're this butthurt over it...why are you even a fan...why do you watch....being this uber emotionally invested such as you apparently are is dangerous for your health. You one step away from being committed Dawg...100% certifiable batshit insane is what you sound like...get a hold of yourself...it's gonna be ok...:lol

[patos]

And fuck the players, they want player salaries to go up to an average of 7 million and 105 million per team? That was their best offer to prevent a lockout? Fucking greedy assholes, you're already getting paid A MINIMUM of like 500 grand a year to dribble a fucking ball while most doctors could never even dream of making that money.

I understand they are the best of the best and because the NBA is a very lucrative business they deserve to be paid but asking for the team's total salary to go up 30 million on average is ludicrous and just greedy. The owners are fucking retarded for giving these massive contracts out to shit players like Rashard Lewis and Hedo and now every player thinks they deserve more money.

Horseshit. Fuck all these guys

i like

[patos]

So let me get this butthurt over it.

[Leetonidas]

So let me get this straight...you're saying fuck Tim Duncan...:lol if you're this butthurt over it...why are you even a fan...why do you watch....being this uber emotionally invested such as you apparently are is dangerous for your health. You one step away from being committed Dawg...100% certifiable batshit insane is what you sound like...get a hold of yourself...it's gonna be ok...:lol

....you're dumb

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

still trying to figure out why AIDS has that ACORN guy wearing a pimp costume as his avatar

[Leetonidas]

Bingo....You prove my point :lol...but nonetheless they aren't flipping burgers...your sense of entitlement should have died years ago with the KKK being marginalized..I bet you think Affirmative Action is wrong as well huh? :lol Well let Kool enlighten you....Affirmative Action does nothing but "keeps honest people honest" no really it prevents the hearts of men from being false and discriminatory against my niggas. If you get into a college on Affirmative Action that doesn't mean you get to stay if you don't make the grades...what's more insidious and harmful to college institutions is Legacy Based admissions where you (whitey) can get failing grades but because grandpa donated 5 million to the school your dumb ass gets to stay failing grades or not...so let's be intellectually honest here...

and last I checked niggas didn't crash wall street, or steal billions ( Bernie Madoff, Ken Lay, Jeffery Skilling, etc, etc...I guess these guys are supremely gifted...:lol

Since when am I a member of the KKK? I disparage the scum of every race, black people just happen to have more scum than most other races. Asians have the least.

[Jacob1983]

The players are fuckin greedy but the owners are the ones that sign the checks and overpay their greedy asses. You know things are bad when a player like Greg Oden is offered 8 million dollars to play in the NBA next season. I mean come on, a player with his history of injuries and bad luck and let's not forget that he's not even an all star calibur player being offered 8 million dollars for 1 season? The owners are dumbasses for overpaying these greedy fuckers.

[underdawg]

interesting read - info about nba growth and revenue

http://harvardsportsanalysis.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/the-nfl-business-model-and-potential-lockout.pdf

[DMC]

I think I will say something controversial. If that doesn't get responses, I will sit around and conjure up something else that might. No one has ever done that. I am original. I do original things.

[TDMVPDPOY]

if you switch them around, do you think the players would shelve out such salaries if they were owners?

fkn double standards....

[Mr. Fix It]

Will my 80th thread this week finally be the one with enough substance to convince the board my mom didn't drink heavily while pregnant with me? Here goes nothing...

...

Koolaid strikes out again...

ftfy

[Koolaid_Man]

Since when am I a member of the KKK? I disparage the scum of every race, black people just happen to have more scum than most other races. Asians have the least.


It's true they have more cum than other races but where's your proof on the scum part...I can prove every word I type about white people but I can guaran dam tee that you can't prove that black people have more scum than whites...I have numbers on my side...:lol Here's your chance in a public forum Leetonidas go ahead and prove this ###### - Kool wrong... let's see just how high your SAT's really are as you claim...be mindful that I'm just so much smarter than you I don't care how much you think otherwise:lol ...I issue you a direct challenge in front of your friends to prove the intelligentsia :lol of your statements...Go for it...:lol

[Koolaid_Man]

ftfy


and you think I didn't anticipate such a meaningful response...I knew some idiot would post Kool strikes out again..you guys are easy as leading a sheep to the wolves slaughter....:lol

[Koolaid_Man]

still trying to figure out why AIDS has that ACORN guy wearing a pimp costume as his avatar


cuz that's my brother...he brought down Acorn...ACORN....I'm just a squirrel tryin to get a nut....

:downspin:

[djohn2oo8]

cuz that's my brother...he brought down Acorn...ACORN....I'm just a squirrel tryin to get a nut....

:downspin:

You're a cocksucker. You suck cocks

[Koolaid_Man]

You're a cocksucker. You suck cocks

you're a homosexual...you suck anus's...with great authority I might add...:lol

[Mr. Fix It]

Crap I couldn't see a basic joke like that coming. That case of syphillis I caught off of lakaluva must be starting to take a mental toll. Perhaps if I claim I knew it all along I can at least convince myself that I really don't fail harder than a retard sticking his dick in an electrical outlet. See world, I'm every bit as kool as my mom says I am!

ftfy

[djohn2oo8]

you're a homosexual...you suck anus's...with great authority I might add...:lol

Can't tell which sucks more. Your mouth or your jokes

[Koolaid_Man]

Can't tell which sucks more. Your mouth or your jokes


But I can clearly see that your ass blows more than your mouth...tbh

[Koolaid_Man]

It's true they have more cum than other races but where's your proof on the scum part...I can prove every word I type about white people but I can guaran dam tee that you can't prove that black people have more scum than whites...I have numbers on my side...:lol Here's your chance in a public forum Leetonidas go ahead and prove this ###### - Kool wrong... let's see just how high your SAT's really are as you claim...be mindful that I'm just so much smarter than you I don't care how much you think otherwise:lol ...I issue you a direct challenge in front of your friends to prove the intelligentsia :lol of your statements...Go for it...:lol


:lol guess I scared Lee off...you can always ask the kneel'er in chief DMC to help you out...:lol

[NBA Champs]

HAHA. When are you fucking honkies going to learn that you can't change destiny? My nigga Kool was born to own you boys.

**BREAKING NEWS** Nike re-signs my nigga Michael Vick to an endorsement deal. HAHAHA! Fucking honkies, yeah you know what's up!

[LkrFan]

Majority of the black players in the NBA would be flipping burgers at McDonald's or in jail if they weren't gifted such amazing athletic abilities.

These are things we know.

Ms Cleeotonidas strikes again. I never thought I'd evere see retarded racist faggot come out the closet on the internets. It is a free country though. :downspin:

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

And fuck the players, they want player salaries to go up to an average of 7 million and 105 million per team? That was their best offer to prevent a lockout? Fucking greedy assholes, you're already getting paid A MINIMUM of like 500 grand a year to dribble a fucking ball while most doctors could never even dream of making that money.

I understand they are the best of the best and because the NBA is a very lucrative business they deserve to be paid but asking for the team's total salary to go up 30 million on average is ludicrous and just greedy. The owners are fucking retarded for giving these massive contracts out to shit players like Rashard Lewis and Hedo and now every player thinks they deserve more money.

Horseshit. Fuck all these guys

Mad u scrubbin the toilets at Mcdonald's?

[LkrFan]

Since there is a lockout, he should have them inject a little HGH in with the treatment. I figure they won't test him so why not? If LBJ can getbaway with roids, Kobe should be able to take a little HGH to get his knee right.

:elephant

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

u mad u black bro?

Tyson be on dat insecure shit sonz

[Koolaid_Man]

u mad u black bro?

Should he be mad his dick is thrice the size of whity :lol

[TheManFromAcme]

players = employees
owners = employer

what part of that equation are people having a hard time with?
If you don't like your place of employment, leave or do something else. simple as that.

go owners!

[dunkman]

Teams like Lakers, Knicks or the Bulls can charge 2x for the tickets, always be soldout also get more lucrative TV, cable and advertising deals. So, they can pay the players and don't lose money. However, even so, those teams don't have huge profits.

On the other hand, a small market team must put a good team to have the fans interested but they can't charge the same for the tickets, they also get less from TV and advertising deals. In the end it's a fine balance, practically no matter what they do, they lose money because the payroll only takes 70% of the budget.

The formula of low payrolls works for Sterling in LA, but that wouldn't work anywhere else. The teams must have excellent players, otherwise, who's going to pay to watch a team that gets outclassed?

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

Playing organized basketball for many years and bein in the lockerroom, I learned that plenty of black men have small penises. I don't know his guys status but he sound mad as fuck.

Says the faggot who cried about whether or not to let his girl go to the club :lmao

[ChuckD]

Both sides are fucked. You have the Billionaires and the Millionaires fighting over a pile of money that would make Soloman blush. The only way to hit them all is to affect their BRI. If games are lost (and it looks about 100% that they will be), then I won't be buying ducats or merchandise, or watching for the remainder of the season, or, if they are stupid enough to dump the season, then next season.

[Killakobe81]

i'm torn the owners shouldn't get a do over when they make a bad investment, but the players shouldn't make a shit ton of many when they don't do shit

This. i say meet in the middle.

Not many professions offer "garunteed contracts" ...the NFL does it best. NBA should adopt a hybrid make the contracts garunteed only for only 50% of the value (sort of like unemployment) ...

And no hard cap but make the luxury tax penalties more severe ...in other words greater revenue sharing. Train, is right fuckers should not get a "do over" for being bad business men. this is just like AIG, Lehman Brothers etc. no one should bail out underperforming teams. if they cant make it contract, or sell to a mega millionaire (>$500 mill) or billionaire ...family ownership that the team is their "lifeblood" financialy makes little sense how can they compete with cuban?

And small market is a bullshit excuse, Spurs won 4 titles ...you just need to draft smart and have some good luck ...

[Killakobe81]

As for the players they should accept most any deal that keeps garunteed contracts and has no "hard cap" ...

Even if they get only 50% of revenue or even 45% the owners will NOT stop giving out dumb contracts. and if they colllude you can bust their anti-trust exemption ...

Players are being shortsighted. the key to "winning" this labor dispute is by giving up money now, so the dumbass owners can turn around and give it to them back in a max contract. Just make sure there is no hard cap and the lux tax is higher but not outrageous Cuban, Buss, Arison, Allen will play if they have a shot to win regardless ...

[NBA Champs]

Playing organized basketball for many years and bein in the lockerroom, I learned that plenty of black men have small penises. I don't know his guys status but he sound mad as fuck.

Damn dude!?!? Look man, it was already predetermined that your penis wouldn't amount to much before you were even born. It's called genetics pal. But look on the bright side, you're a white male--you've got the whole world..let the two of us (black men & white women[oh how they love ###### dick]) have something.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I love how black men act like white women fantasize about black dick when the only white women who do are the trashy ones who have gone through dick of all colors.

[NBA Champs]

Who told you I was white? Oh you just reached and made no sense, lol black guy w/ a small dick. Damn son, your black friends must laugh so hard at you :lmao

Right, as you stare in the mirror at your pasty ass face..next.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I'm friends with Tyson_Chandler on facebook, he's being completely honest when he says he's not white.

[NBA Champs]

I love how black men act like white women fantasize about black dick when the only white women who do are the trashy ones who have gone through dick of all colors.

It hurts doesn't it? That your little white penis will never be enough to satisfy a woman. Leave sex to the brothas' ok dude? Go out with the gang and play some golf while your wife sneaks my big homie in your home to clean the cobwebs off her vaginal walls--which haven't been touched by you--EVER.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

It hurts doesn't it? That your little white penis will never be enough to satisfy a woman. Leave sex to the brothas' ok dude? Go out with the gang and play some golf while your wife sneaks my big homie in your home to clean the cobwebs off her vaginal walls--which haven't been touched by you--EVER.
lol New Orleans ###### trash

You probably think since the gross ass white trailer trash women in the South like black men, all white women do.

[NBA Champs]

U insecure blacks never fail to amuse me..you pride yourselves on pretending so hard your dicks are bigger than white guys because deep down you feel inferior. A real black man doesn't need to belittle other races to feel good about himself, he realizes that all men are created equally and that there are respectable men of all races. Thats like a white man making the generalization that all ######s are stupid as a box of rocks. Youre obviously low class trash and a nobody..

You've got a lot of angst inside..I would suggest you take it out on some hookers pussy, but that would be a waste of money..we both know you wouldn't accomplish anything.

[Koolaid_Man]

Playing organized basketball for many years and bein in the lockerroom, I learned that plenty of black men have small penises. I don't know his guys status but he sound mad as fuck.


:lol So did you get a good look...are you telling me you're the expert on dicks...:lol listen if you were looking somewhere and you glanced at it by accident that's okay. If you are scoping someones dick from across the room in a 'subtle' way then you should check how heterosexual you really are.:lmao

[NBA Champs]

lol New Orleans ###### trash

You probably think since the gross ass white trailer trash women in the South like black men, all white women do.

There's a reason why we have an epidemic of white males looking for big black cocks for their wives to fuck while he watches. It's the reason why so many white families are able to sustain the traditional structure of a family...white women aren't getting divorces these days as long as her limp dicked white husband can provide her with a real man that can satisfy her. She wins, my nigga wins and he wins--the money shot he begs for after his wifes holes been annihilated by BBC (BIG BLACK COCK).

[NBA Champs]

damn son, you're going to have to raise your level of thinking if you're ever going to make something of yourself and amount to anything in life. at this point, i'd say it's a shame that the hurricane didn't wash you out to sea..a watery grave amongst your fellow crackheaded brethren.

FAIL.

I've never been to New Orleans.

/FAIL.

[Koolaid_Man]

U insecure blacks never fail to amuse me..you pride yourselves on pretending so hard your dicks are bigger than white guys because deep down you feel inferior. A real black man doesn't need to belittle other races to feel good about himself, he realizes that all men are created equally and that there are respectable men of all races. Thats like a white man making the generalization that all ######s are stupid as a box of rocks. Youre obviously low class trash and a nobody..


But wasn't you on a crusade against Homo's just the other day. Real talk check it..a real Hetrosexual doesn't need to belittle other genders to feel good about himself either you digg...:toast

If you gonna represent then at least be consistent..

and for the ump tenth time it's Nigga ok...it's fucking NIGGA...:lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

So why exactly don't white women marry black men at all if they're so amazing?

[Koolaid_Man]

There's a reason why we have an epidemic of white males looking for big black cocks for their wives to fuck while he watches. It's the reason why so many white families are able to sustain the traditional structure of a family...white women aren't getting divorces these days as long as her limp dicked white husband can provide her with a real man that can satisfy her. She wins, my nigga wins and he wins--the money shot he begs for after his wifes holes been annihilated by BBC (BIG BLACK COCK).


that shit is porno gold...but I get more than enough of my white fix...more than enough..I just don't do married...not unless these Ho's lying to me...:lol

[NBA Champs]

So why exactly don't white women marry black men at all if they're so amazing?

Oh you haven't heard? Like my nigga Snoop said, "We don't love dem hoes." Keep the pimp hand strong my nigga! Eat your wheaties!

[Koolaid_Man]

everybody who has played organized football and basketball with mandatory showering has caught a slight glimpse of a view dicks..it's not anyone's fault at all, just part of life. i know enough to know that the only black folk (or anyone for that matter) who constantly feels the need to brag about his dick is in fact tiny. it just screams low self esteem.


this is true..but you make it sound like you going around inspecting dicks...but truth be told I had a homie in college that dick slapped another homie in the locker room..pure accident...dude was drying off other dude reached down to tie his shoe when dude swung around and slapped the fuck outta him with his dick...take your fist and slam into to your bare palm...that's what that shit sounded like...He can never live it down...:lol

[Koolaid_Man]

So why exactly don't white women marry black men at all if they're so amazing?


the same reason black dudes by and large aren't knocking down the doors to marry them...the social ramifications you dipshit....:lol but DOK you have an Asian name....DOk...I won't embarass you...but here's a special for you...


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