Strauss-Kahn case seen as in jeopardy...

[Stringer_Bell]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43602102


Although forensic tests found unambiguous evidence of a sexual encounter between Mr. Strauss Kahn, a French politician, and the woman, prosecutors do not believe much of what the accuser has told them about the circumstances or about herself.

I knew my boy would get off easy on this one, despite the amount of physical evidence that was reported on in the early runnings. Who needs to fight a case in court when you can just tank the accuser's credability? Who is ever gonna believe a lowly maid from Guinea with her hand in all sorts of shady shit.

Way a go, brah! :toast

[Wild Cobra]

I was looking for the original thread on this. Didn't find it in a few. Oh well.

I think this is too common. Someone powerful being accused of something just because there is something to gain. I don't recall making a comment on this earlier because I was 50/50 on the notion. Probably because I have a bias against the French.

[jack sommerset]

You got to be kidding me. Good for him. It ate up the airwaves for a few days. The guy quit his job. They took his passport. He was publicly humilated. Hopefully we deport this bitch.

[MannyIsGod]

This doesn't mean he didn't do it. It means that they probably won't be able to prove it because of her credibility. That being said, its also pretty telling that it hasn't been outright dismissed even with her credibility being shot to hell. That forensic evidence they have is probably very strong.

[boutons_deux]

The French position was that he had sex with her (they expect powerful men to consume women as a perk), but that he was set up by right-wingers in France.

He's wealthy, his wife is wealthy. They can hire scumbag lawyers to destroy, slander the accuser/victim.

And prosecutors, not exactly apolitical animals, know how confuse and berate an accuser, esp an ignorant, uneducated manual laborer, into all kinds of inconsistencies. C'est une faite accompli.

[Wild Cobra]

This doesn't mean he didn't do it. It means that they probably won't be able to prove it because of her credibility. That being said, its also pretty telling that it hasn't been outright dismissed even with her credibility being shot to hell. That forensic evidence they have is probably very strong.
You means there is evidence they had sex?

So what. It's still "He said - She said."

[MannyIsGod]

No, I mean there is evidence of a rape. Its fairly obvious there is evidence of a rape because they haven't dropped charges yet even after their witness has exploitable shit attached to them.

[Crookshanks]

Letter from prosecutors on the accuser of Strauss-Kahn

Published Friday, Jul. 01, 2011 3:04PM EDT
Last updated Friday, Jul. 01, 2011 9:56PM EDT

The following is a letter New York prosecutors sent to defence lawyers for former IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn that details inconsistencies in the story of the woman who accused Mr. Strauss-Kahn of sexual assault.

DISTRICT ATTORNEY County of New York June 30, 2011 People v. Dominique Strauss-Kahn Indictment No. 2526/2011 Dear Mssrs. (William) Taylor and (Benjamin) Brafman:

In connection with the above-captioned case, the People disclose the following information to the defense pursuant to Criminal Procedure Law 240.20 as well as Brady v. Maryland, 373 U.S. 83 (1963) and its doctrinal progeny.

In an application for Asylum and for Withholding of Removal dated December 30, 2004, the complainant provided the United States Department of Justice Immigration and Naturalization Service with factual information about herself, her background and her experiences in her home country of Guinea. This information was in the form of a written statement attached to her application, and was submitted as a basis for her request for asylum. In her application, she certified under penalty of perjury that her written statement was true.

In substance, the complainant’s statement claimed that she and her husband had been persecuted and harassed by the dictatorial regime that was then in power in Guinea. Among other things, the complainant stated that the home she shared with her husband was destroyed by police and soldiers acting on behalf of the regime, and she and her husband were beaten by them. When her husband attempted to return to what was left of their home the next day, she stated that he was again beaten, arrested and imprisoned by police and soldiers. She stated that she also was beaten when she attempted to come to her husband’s aid. In her statement, she attributed the beatings to the couple’s opposition to the regime. She stated that during her husband’s incarceration, he was tortured, deprived of medical treatment, and eventually died as a result of his maltreatment. Following his death, according to her, she began to denounce the regime and finally fled the country in fear of her life, entering the United States in January 2004 to seek refuge (she has told prosecutors that she used a fraudulent visa). She repeated these facts orally during the course of her asylum application process.

In interviews in connection with the investigation of this case, the complainant admitted that the above factual information, which she provided in connection with her asylum application, was false. She stated that she fabricated the statement with the assistance of a male who provided her with a cassette recording of the facts contained in the statement that she eventually submitted. She memorized these facts by listening to the recording repeatedly. In several interviews with prosecutors, she reiterated these falsehoods when questioned about her history and background, and stated that she did so in order to remain consistent with the statement that she had submitted as part of her application.

Additionally, in two separate interviews with assistant district attorneys assigned to the case, the complainant stated that she had been the victim of a gang rape in the past in her native country and provided details of the attack. During both of these interviews, the victim cried and appeared to be markedly distraught when recounting the incident. In subsequent interviews, she admitted that the gang rape had never occurred. Instead, she stated that she had lied about its occurrence and fabricated the details, and that this false incident was part of the narrative that she had been directed to memorize as part of her asylum application process. Presently, the complainant states that she would testify that she was raped in the past in her native country but in an incident different than the one that she described during initial interviews.

In the weeks following the incident charged in the indictment, the complainant told detectives and assistant district attorneys on numerous occasions that, after being sexually assaulted by the defendant on May 14, 2011 in Suite 2806, she fled to an area of the main hallway of the hotel’s 28th floor and waited there until she observed the defendant leave Suite 2806 and the 28th floor by entering an elevator. It was after this observation that she reported the incident to her supervisor, who arrived on the 28th floor a short time later. In the interim between the incident and her supervisor’s arrival, she claimed to have remained in the same area of the main hallway on the 28th floor to which she had initially fled. The complainant testified to this version of events when questioned in the Grand Jury about her actions following the incident in Suite 2806, she proceeded to clean a nearby room and then returned to Suite 2806 and began to clean that suite before she reported the incident to her supervisor.

Additionally, the complainant has stated that for the past two tax years, she declared a friend’s child in addition to her own as a dependent on her tax returns for the purpose of increasing her tax refund beyond that to which she was entitled. She also admitted to misrepresenting her income in order to maintain her present housing.

Finally, during the course of this investigation, the complainant was untruthful with assistant district attorneys about a variety of additional topics concerning her history, background, present circumstances and personal relationships.

Please do not hesitate to contact us with any questions. Sincerely, Joan Illuzzi-Orbon Assistant District Attorney John (Artie) McConnell Assistant District Attorney (Reporting by Paula Rogo)
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There are serious credibility issues with this woman. I doubt anyone is going to believe there was a rape. She needs to be deported.

[jack sommerset]

the complainant stated that she had been the victim of a gang rape in the past in her native country and provided details of the attack. During both of these interviews, the victim cried and appeared to be markedly distraught when recounting the incident. In subsequent interviews, she admitted that the gang rape had never occurred

WTF? This cunt needs to be deported.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

One of the most powerful men in the world getting out of a rape charge due to the lack of 'credibility' from the victim. Did anyone not see this coming?

[boutons_deux]

She never had a chance.

[Crookshanks]

One of the most powerful men in the world getting out of a rape charge due to the lack of 'credibility' from the victim. Did anyone not see this coming?

But, would there have even been a rape charge if he hadn't been one of the most powerful men in the world? Seems to me this woman had an agenda, and made false allegations to further that agenda.

[jack sommerset]

One of the most powerful men in the world getting out of a rape charge due to the lack of 'credibility' from the victim. Did anyone not see this coming?

Jesus Christ man. Did you not just read she LIED about rape before. WTF is wrong with you. Are you jealous the guy has money or something cuz this bitch has zero case, none, nada, no witnesses, no evidence. The only thing this cunt had was her mouth and now she has been busted for crying rape, again. No way this cat raped that whore. NO WAY.

[TheProfessor]

Jesus Christ man. Did you not just read she LIED about rape before. WTF is wrong with you. Are you jealous the guy has money or something cuz this bitch has zero case, none, nada, no witnesses, no evidence. The only thing this cunt had was her mouth and now she has been busted for crying rape, again. No way this cat raped that whore. NO WAY.
Liars get raped, as much as that seems to surprise people. But yeah, no way a jury convicts if it's her on the stand and all that comes out.

[boutons_deux]

...

[Crookshanks]

big surprise from crookshanks, taking the side of the more powerful person and demanding that the maid be deported :rolleyes

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv192/breeQuee123/KHANNNN.jpg?t=1270569128

Hmmm, let's see - she lied about being raped on her asylum application, she lied about her income to keep her current housing, and she admitted she claimed someone else's child on her tax return so she could get a bigger refund. This most recent rape allegation is full of holes - but I'm supposed to feel sorry for her and take her side? I'm taking the side of the person who seems to be a victim in all this - and that's Mr. Strauss-Kahn.

[ElNono]

Did Mr Strauss-Kahn never lied before this case either? I find that hard to believe.

She could be a two faced liar with an agenda. But if you're going to debate her credibility, the least you can do is debate it about facts in this case. She said one thing and did another, etc etc etc.

[jack sommerset]

if you were a borderline rational person, then i might bring up the other accusers of S-K who sprang up after the lady's accusations... oh, and, wait, actual medical evidence


but facts and science scare people like you, so, i won't mention it

please fill the rest us in on your findings.

[ChuckD]

Yeah, the forum Right Wingers defending the leader of the Socialist party of France. Man, that contortion must hurt. :lol

[Wild Cobra]

Yeah, the forum Right Wingers defending the leader of the Socialist party of France. Man, that contortion must hurt. :lol
Are you saying it's wrong to defend someone's integrity when you believe them, just because you disagree with their politics?

If so, you libtards are really fucked up!

[Oh, Gee!!]

Yeah, the forum Right Wingers defending the leader of the Socialist party of France. Man, that contortion must hurt. :lol

yeah but it's against a black, female, immigrant....so it's okay. Her three strikes cancel out his two.

[ElNono]

Are you saying it's wrong to defend someone's integrity when you believe them, just because you disagree with their politics?

If so, you libtards are really fucked up!

Do you have a transcript or a video of what happened in that hotel room?
Why a skeptic such as yourself would believe somebody without such evidence?

[Wild Cobra]

Do you have a transcript or a video of what happened in that hotel room?
Why a skeptic such as yourself would believe somebody without such evidence?
Her story isn't good enough evidence either. Her integrity is shown to be worse than his. It isn't uncommon to find methods to slander political opponents either, which she could be a part of.

And yes. He could be guilty. I just find it very unlikely.

I forget, Do you believe in the concept of innocent till proven guilty?

[rascal]

This doesn't mean he didn't do it. It means that they probably won't be able to prove it because of her credibility. That being said, its also pretty telling that it hasn't been outright dismissed even with her credibility being shot to hell. That forensic evidence they have is probably very strong.

What was the forensic evidence? A hair she picked up while cleaning his room?

[boutons_deux]

"The woman's lawyer says the authorities have sufficient physical evidence to proceed with the case, including proof that she was assaulted, and Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus Vance, confirmed that the investigation would continue until "all relevant facts" had been uncovered.

Lawyer Ken Thompson said on Friday that the authorities had photographs of bruises sustained by his client, as well as other physical evidence supporting her claims."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/03/strauss-kahn-attempted-rape-case

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we'll see if this evidence is ever officially published, or whether DSK "settles" the case into sealing the documents.

The FRENCH AND SOCIALIST head of the IMF fucking (raping?) the hotel staff is OK with "Christians" here, with right-wingers, with chauvinsts, as long as the victim is black and non-American.

[MannyIsGod]

So shitty witness and they're still proceeding? Yeah I'm sure they have nothing. According to a lot of you its ok if you get raped if you'e a liar.

[boutons_deux]

"lot of you its ok if you get raped if you'e a liar."

it's the "Christian" and right-wing "lot" here

A Georgia Repug representative wants to change "rape victim" to "rape accuser", since in his privileged world rapin wimmen is just what Good Ol' (white) Boys do, and there's no need to punish them because the "accuser" is always lying.

[jack sommerset]

So shitty witness and they're still proceeding? Yeah I'm sure they have nothing. According to a lot of you its ok if you get raped if you'e a liar.

LoL....You're a little bitch. Noone said that or implied that!!!

This is what will happen, he won't be found guilty for rape cuz she is a lying whore that made this crap up and has even lied about being raped before. She admits this. You will continue to spew nonsense and "what ifs" after the charges are dropped and/or found innocent no matter what.

[boutons_deux]

Another victim of a violent sexual predator/sicko steps up:


Tristane Banon To File Sexual Assault Lawsuit Against Dominique Strauss-Kahn

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/301487/thumbs/s-TRISTANE-BANON-DOMINIQUE-STRAUSS-KAHN-DSK-large.jpg


PARIS, July 4 (Reuters) - French writer Tristane Banon will file a legal complaint on Tuesday over an alleged rape attempt by former IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn in 2002, her lawyer told Reuters.

David Koubbi, Banon's attorney, said the complaint would relate to an incident that took place when she went to interview Strauss-Kahn in an apartment in Paris. She was 22 at the time and has already publically discussed the incident.

"Tristane Banon will file a complaint on Tuesday for attempted rape in Paris," Koubbi said. (Reporting by Gerard Bon)

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How was in contact with Tristane? She was goddaughter of DSK's ex-wife! :)

[jack sommerset]

9 years later. Politics is a tough business.

[Wild Cobra]

Is this a Kobe replay?

[lefty]

http://www.eteignezvotreordinateur.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/dskshocker2.png

[Winehole23]

The outpouring of sympathy for a banker who is both a socialist and French, has been impressive.

[Wild Cobra]

The outpouring of sympathy for a banker who is both a socialist and French, has been impressive.
Just because I don't like the guy doesn't mean I agree with railroading him on charges that cannot be proven, and are likely false anyway.

[Winehole23]

How magnanimous.

[MannyIsGod]

:lol likely false. Gotta love it.

[MannyIsGod]

In any other case WC would be tripping over himself to side with the police. But now even though they're proceeding its "likely false".

:lol

[Wild Cobra]

In any other case WC would be tripping over himself to side with the police. But now even though they're proceeding its "likely false".

:lol
Why do you making up in your mind the things you are prejudicial about me instead of the things I say?

How many times have I indicated that the police abuse their power? Have i ever said I respect the police as a whole?

I suggest you start listening to what people say instead of projecting your bias and slander about them. You might be a better person in the end.

[Winehole23]

Why do you making up in your mind the things you are prejudicial about me instead of the things I say?Occupational hazard.

Your previous postings may have caused others to form impressions of you that are very hard to shake. You have said some memorable things in your ST career.

[Wild Cobra]

Occupational hazard.

Your previous postings may have caused others to form impressions of you that are very hard to shake. You have said some memorable things in your ST career.
Just shows how bigoted they are.

[ElNono]

Where's the video and the transcript?

[Winehole23]

Just shows how bigoted they are.Yes, but it wasn't pulled from thin air.

[Wild Cobra]

Yes, but it wasn't pulled from thin air.
Must be their confirmation bias.

[Winehole23]

Undoubtedly, but it was also picked for its resemblance to reality and not just to spite you. Sometimes other people are right.

[Wild Cobra]

Undoubtedly, but it was also picked for its resemblance to reality and not just to spite you. Sometimes other people are right.
Considering the responses I get to non-confrontational threads and remarks, I disagree. It is out of petty spite.

[Winehole23]

Of course. That is your confirmation bias.

[Wild Cobra]

Of course. That is your confirmation bias.
LOL...

OK, I'll agree with that, just to make you happy my friend.

[Winehole23]

Mu

[Winehole23]

Sometimes they hate your ideas, sometimes they just hate you.

[Winehole23]

Sometimes, both at once.

[boutons_deux]

Strauss-Kahn accuser sues NY Post for ‘prostitute’ report

The hotel maid who accused former IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn of sexual assault sued the New York Post and five of its journalists for libel on Tuesday for reporting that she was a prostitute.

The 32-year-old Guinean immigrant accused the Post of publishing defamatory articles between July 2-4 "in an apparent desperate attempt to bolster its rapidly plunging sales."

The suit filed in Bronx state court seeks damages to be determined at trial for articles it said the Post knew were false or should have known were false before they were published.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/07/05/strauss-kahn-accuser-sues-ny-post-for-prostitute-report/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

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Pressure on Murdoch over new phone hacking allegation

British Prime Minister David Cameron condemned the alleged hacking of a murdered schoolgirl's voicemail by the News of the World, part of Rupert Murdoch's media empire, as the scandal closed in on a top News Corp executive and Murdoch protegee.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/07/05/pressure-on-murdoch-over-new-phone-hacking-allegation/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

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Murdoch runs some real shit-bag operations, but, WTH, he make money. A capitalist's capitalist, ethics and morality never come into play.

[boutons_deux]

In Hospital Report, Housekeeper’s Graphic Account of Attack

By JOHN ELIGON

As soon as she entered Room 2806 of the Sofitel New York, a hotel housekeeper said, a naked Dominique Strauss-Kahn pushed her to the bed and, as she sat, began to sexually assault her. She freed herself, only to have him pull her toward the bathroom. After she fell to the ground, she said, he forced her again into a sexual act.

Versions of this narrative have been told in court and in various criminal documents since Mr. Strauss-Kahn, the former managing director of the International Monetary Fund, was arrested in May on sexual assault charges.

But this is the most direct account of the housekeeper’s version of events to be offered so far. It comes from a report prepared by a counselor at St. Luke’s-Roosevelt Hospital Center, where the housekeeper was treated just hours after she said she was attacked, and where she related for one of the first times what happened in the hotel suite.

The report, which has been provided to prosecutors and defense lawyers, provides a counselor’s notes of the graphic story told by the 32-year-old Guinean housekeeper, whose credibility has since been called into serious question by prosecutors because of lies they say she told during her immigration application and at other times.

While prosecutors now express severe doubts about the strength of their case, this account is suggestive of a serious sexual assault, which led prosecutors to charge Mr. Strauss-Kahn with attempted rape and sexual abuse.

There are a couple of sentences in the report, however, that the defense could focus on, most notably one that could be interpreted as the housekeeper’s saying that after the alleged attack, she observed Mr. Strauss-Kahn, 62, getting dressed — something that would run counter to her later version of what happened.

Although the Manhattan district attorney’s office agreed last week to release Mr. Strauss-Kahn from house arrest, prosecutors said they still believed that there was evidence of a forcible sexual attack.

Most of their problems with the case, they said, had to do not with the woman’s account of the attack, but rather with inconsistencies in her life story — lies she told on her asylum application and tax returns; deposits that were made to a bank account in her name; and a conversation she had with a man in federal custody in Arizona.

The one major discrepancy that prosecutors have pointed out in the woman’s version of the attack is that in her grand jury testimony, she said she waited in the hallway for Mr. Strauss-Kahn to leave after the attack. But she has since told investigators that she cleaned a nearby room after the attack, according to the prosecution.

The account given to the rape counselor stands out for its detail.

According to the counselor’s notes, the woman said a room service attendant had told her that no one was in the suite. As soon as the housekeeper walked in, she told the counselor, a man, “naked, with ‘white hair,’ ” locked the door behind her and pushed her onto the bed.

He “put his penis into her mouth briefly,” the report said. She told him to stop and tried to get away, according to the report, but he pulled her toward the bathroom. He put his hands under her clothes and touched her crotch area, the report said. After she fell to the carpeted floor, according to the report, Mr. Strauss-Kahn again forced her to perform oral sex, grabbing her by the hair and controlling her head with force.

The woman’s lawyer, Kenneth P. Thompson, has since said the housekeeper suffered bruising to her vagina during the episode.

She spit onto the carpet once the sexual encounter was over, according to the report. Then, the report said, the patient “reports he got dressed” and “left the room, and that he said nothing to her during the incident.”

Those sentences raise the question of exactly where the woman was when Mr. Strauss-Kahn got dressed. If she was in the room, it would not be consistent with the two versions she has told investigators, both of which have her fleeing the room after the attack. It also raises the question of what communication they had with each other if Mr. Strauss-Kahn did not speak.

The lawyer William W. Taylor III, who along with Benjamin Brafman is representing Mr. Strauss-Kahn, declined to comment.

The report continues that the woman washed out her mouth with water. The woman also told her supervisor that there was blood on the bedsheets but that it did not belong to her, the report said. The woman was interviewed by Special Victims Squad detectives at the hospital and called her daughter, the report said.

Daniel R. Alonso, the chief assistant to the Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., also declined to comment.

But in interviews over the weekend, prosecutors in the office have maintained that they have done what they are supposed to do, given the evidence they had at each step of the case.

“We’re doing our job,” said Joan Illuzzi-Orbon, the lead prosecutor on the Strauss-Kahn case. “We don’t get paid by indictment. We don’t get paid by convictions. We get paid to do the right thing.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/05/nyregion/housekeeper-detailed-strauss-kahn-attack-in-hospital-notes.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss&pagewanted=print

[Winehole23]

lol yr brazen attempt to shoe horn in the News of the World phone-tapping scandal.

The fact it is a scandal is not unrelated to the persistence of popular concerns about ethics and morality. Murdoch's brand could get dinged by this.

[Crookshanks]

In any other case WC would be tripping over himself to side with the police. But now even though they're proceeding its "likely false".

:lol

Well Manny - looks like you're wrong on this one. :lol


DA set to drop charges vs. DSK
Investigator: Dismissal a 'certainty'
By LAURA ITALIANO

Pop the champagne, DSK.

Prosecutors will agree to drop the charges against Dominique Strauss-Kahn -- either on his next court date in two weeks or even sooner, according to a top investigator in the case who called the eventual dismissal "a certainty."

"We all know this case is not sustainable," the source told The Post exclusively yesterday.

"Her credibility is so bad now, we know we cannot sustain a case with her," the source said, referring to the Guinean hotel maid who accused Strauss-Kahn of trying to rape her in his plush Midtown hotel suite -- shocking charges that got the international banker bounced as head of the IMF and also derailed, at least for now, his bid to become president of France.

"She is not to be believed in anything that comes out of her mouth -- which is a shame, because now we may never know what happened in that hotel room," said the source, who is at the center of the investigation and would speak only on the condition of anonymity.

"Did [Strauss-Kahn] use force? Was there actually a crime? I don't think we'll ever know."

Meanwhile, defense sources described a different scenario, in which DSK admittedly engaged with the maid in a consensual, sex-for-money exchange in his Sofitel suite, with no force involved -- and she turned against him only when he stiffed her. (Stiffed her? Kind of a poor choice of words)

"In the past, guests have left stuff for her," meaning money, one source close to the defense investigation said last night. "She goes back to look for the money," and is disappointed, the source said. Also likely irking the maid? "His dismissive nature," said the source.

Multiple investigators for the defense and prosecution have confirmed that they believe the maid was turning tricks at the hotel, and prosecution sources have even accused her of continuing to "entertain" male visitors while in a DA safehouse.

Meanwhile yesterday, French lawyers for Strauss-Kahn promised to fight back with criminal charges of their own against a French writer who claims he tried to rape her nearly a decade ago.

Tristane Banon has accused the French banker of behaving like a "rutting chimpanzee" and allegedly yanking open her bra and attempting to get into her pants during a 2002 interview. Her lawyers said they plan to press charges against Strauss-Kahn in France today.

But the banker's legal team in Europe says they'll file a criminal-slander complaint if Banon makes good on her threat.

The volleys of accusations across the Atlantic come as new details emerge on the collapsing sex case in New York.

For six weeks, the maid told investigators a credible and compelling story about her travails of rape and beatings in escaping Guinea's violent regime, and about her alleged re-victimization last month by Strauss-Kahn.

"One-hundred-percent consistent," one top investigator called her first month-and-a-half of statements. "Rock solid," another top investigator said.

Only eight days ago did the maid's story fall apart, according to two top investigators on the case, and Manhattan DA Cyrus Vance Jr. made what they termed the courageous decision to inform the defense and agree to release Strauss-Kahn without bail.

Officials realized that for six weeks, ever since the May 14 incident, she had bamboozled some of the best minds in the storied Manhattan DA's Office, including a trio of seasoned top investigators with a combined 75 years in the business -- Joan Illuzzi-Orbon, Ann Prunty and Chief DA Investigator Rob Mooney.

Vance "put his very best, most intelligent people on this -- and eventually, we found the truth," said one top investigator.

Defense lawyer Benjamin Brafman declined to talk about the pending dismissal, or about a meeting set for tomorrow morning between the defense team and Vance.



Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/da_set_to_drop_charges_vs_dsk_RWftbQcr6Xw3clMsm6zN WJ#ixzz1RGULrTrq

[Winehole23]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/07/05/national/main20076891.shtml

[Oh, Gee!!]

he needs to get it moved to FL somehow. those juries never convict nobody of nothing.

[Winehole23]

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/07/05/strauss-kahn-accuser-sues-n-y-post-charging-libel/

[jack sommerset]

he needs to get it moved to FL somehow. those juries never convict nobody of nothing.

No need. The accuser is a lying slut.

[MannyIsGod]

Have they dropped the charges yet? You'll forgive me if I don't take the word of the NY Post on pretty much anything.

[DarrinS]

People must feel pretty stupid for rushing to judgement on this one.


I wonder how the Duke Lacrosse team is doing these days?

[coyotes_geek]

Have they dropped the charges yet? You'll forgive me if I don't take the word of the NY Post on pretty much anything.

Looks like the Wall Street Journal is running with it FWIW....

[Sec24Row7]

So shitty witness and they're still proceeding? Yeah I'm sure they have nothing. According to a lot of you its ok if you get raped if you'e a liar.

The prosecutors will hold on to their case as long as humanly possible to save face. You do not want to know how many people in this country have been convicted so someone isn't embarrassed... it would be staggering.

As for "evidence" of rape... according to her she was raped... orally... as in he forced her to etc... now... how the heck does that work? Who even buys that? That stunk to high heaven to me when all of this started...

Also... she is talking to a prison detainee and says "dont worry i know what im doing this guy has a lot of money?"

[DarrinS]

Dude's a socialist douche, but he didn't rape anyone.

[Agloco]

The outpouring of sympathy for a banker who is both a socialist and French, has been impressive.

:lol

[Fabbs]

As for "evidence" of rape... according to her she was raped... orally... as in he forced her to etc... now... how the heck does that work? Who even buys that? That stunk to high heaven to me when all of this started...
yeah in the account 'bouts posted, how is it the dynamic goes from
"As soon as the housekeeper walked in, she told the counselor, a man, “naked, with ‘white hair,’ ” locked the door behind her and pushed her onto the bed.

to

He “put his penis into her mouth briefly,” the report said.

Agree, can't picture unarmed old French geezer doing all this with her resisting.

[MannyIsGod]

Looks like the Wall Street Journal is running with it FWIW....

If they drop he charges then obviously they don't feel they have enough evidence and will proceed accordingly which is fine. However, if they do proceed that will say something.

My main beef is with the way rape victims are portrayed and the idea that if someone isn't a good person it is either OK that they got raped (tough shit, liar) or the idea that a person who lies can't possibly be raped.

[Trainwreck2100]

If they drop he charges then obviously they don't feel they have enough evidence and will proceed accordingly which is fine. However, if they do proceed that will say something.

My main beef is with the way rape victims are portrayed and the idea that if someone isn't a good person it is either OK that they got raped (tough shit, liar) or the idea that a person who lies can't possibly be raped.

It's not ok they get raped its just that nobody cares. Lol bad shit happening to bad person.

[DarrinS]

And, he's white. Don't forget that.

--Manny

[boutons_deux]

And, she's black, and poor, and non-American. Don't forget that.

-- right-wingers (only Human-Americans have rights. Everybody else gets raped)

[Sec24Row7]

If they drop he charges then obviously they don't feel they have enough evidence and will proceed accordingly which is fine. However, if they do proceed that will say something.

My main beef is with the way rape victims are portrayed and the idea that if someone isn't a good person it is either OK that they got raped (tough shit, liar) or the idea that a person who lies can't possibly be raped.

In a case of he said/she said, if character and honesty isn't a factor in reasonable doubt... then when is it?

[MannyIsGod]

And, he's white. Don't forget that.

--Manny

Did the amount of semen found in her vagina fill the superdome?

--DarrinS

[MannyIsGod]

In a case of he said/she said, if character and honesty isn't a factor in reasonable doubt... then when is it?

You don't think there is physical proof in this case?

[Sec24Row7]

No... He says it was consensual...
That physical evidence is he said/she said...

And the DA agrees with me btw

[MannyIsGod]

Link to the DA saying that?

[Sec24Row7]

Link to the DA saying that?

He's not going to say that... nor did I say that he did...

Just reference the soon to be forthcoming "charges dropped" article link as the link you requested.

[MannyIsGod]

Once the charges are dropped, then we can talk about what the charges being dropped means. Until then, there are charges pending.

[CosmicCowboy]

I empathize with the woman lying to immigration on her visa application. The system requires that she document political persecution to get political asylum, otherwise it's back on the boat to Guinea. I'm not saying that lying is good, I'm saying I understand why she did it and I don't automatically assume that she is lying in this instance.

[LnGrrrR]

How magnanimous.

:lmao

[boutons_deux]

A young woman says Dominique Strauss-Kahn tried to rape her. Did he have brutal sex with her mother, too?

The parade of women accusing Dominique Strauss-Kahn of sexual brutality has just taken another twist. A very bizarre twist.

This was not: According to L'Express, Mansouret told investigators that she, too, had sex with Strauss-Kahn. The encounter allegedly happened in a Paris office of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development while Strauss-Kahn was a special adviser to the OECD secretary general. If true, this means Strauss-Kahn had sex with Mansouret in 2000 and then, three years later, went after her daughter.

It also means that when Mansouret initially advised Banon not to file a complaint against Strauss-Kahn, she wasn't just a mother counseling a daughter. She was—without her daughter's knowledge, according to L'Express—a former sex partner of the alleged assailant.

http://www.slate.com/id/2299520/?from=rss

[Winehole23]

http://media.nybooks.com/strauss.html