How long?

[ElNono]

What you guys think? How long until the players bend over and sign the dotted line?

September? December? Next year?

[LkrFan]

November. Groupies love money. No C-Note, no deep throat. That's motivation in itself. :lol

[I. Hustle]

Has this been going on

[mavsfan1000]

They better not sign. Don't cave in to those greedy owners.

[ElNono]

You know it's happening... Fürher Stern gets what he wants.

[Isitjustme?]

You know it's happening... Fürher Stern gets what he wants. :lol

FIFY LkrFan style

[Frenzy]

Who's doing what now?

[noob cake]

Half of the NBA players will be broke within 3 months. Players will give in.

The owners are absolutely justified in their demands. NBA players are overpaid, and the league is losing money. Besides, a hard cap would crush franchises like the Lakers.

[Bill_Brasky]

When the players run out of weed and funyon money they will realize they need to play.

[LkrFan]

Half of the NBA players will be broke within 3 months. Players will give in.

The owners are absolutely justified in their demands. NBA players are overpaid, and the league is losing money. Besides, a hard cap would crush franchises like the Lakers.

In what way? Just curious.

[Cessation]

Lakers are still going to get the best free agents.

[mencken]

They better not sign. Don't cave in to those greedy owners.

So you don't want greedy players to cave to greedy owners?

I don't get why the owners are the villains in this scenario. Especially when it's the owners that are taking all the risks when signing a player.

[ElNono]

So you don't want greedy players to cave to greedy owners?

I don't get why the owners are the villains in this scenario. Especially when it's the owners that are taking all the risks when signing a player.

But by wanting to do away with guaranteed contracts, they want to sign them and then not take the risks. I can understand trying to lower 5 year guaranteed deals to maybe 3. But there's always certain risks in investments. Wanting to have an easy out for their fuckups is not really a solution either (well, might be to the owners, but it's screwing the players).

[Kai]

Mid December. Take it to the bank.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Anyone who thinks a hard salary cap will stop the Lakers from being an elite NBA team year in and year out is kidding himself.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Mid December. Take it to the bank.

How optimistic of you.

There will be no NBA next season.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Anyone who thinks a hard salary cap will stop the Lakers from being an elite NBA team year in and year out is kidding himself.

Exactly. It's fucking Los Angeles...almost everybody wants to play/live there.

[ElNono]

Exactly. It's fucking Los Angeles...almost everybody wants to play/live there.

Plus players can make a killing with sponsorship on a big market.
I would argue a hard cap actually creates a bigger incentive for top players to go to big markets such as LA or NY.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Plus players can make a killing with sponsorship on a big market.
I would argue a hard cap actually creates a bigger incentive for top players to go to big markets such as LA or NY.

Another good point. Like DoK alluded to, thinking that a 45mil hard cap will keep the Lakers from being the Lakers reeks of wishful thinking and ignorance.

[DMC]

Another good point. Like DoK alluded to, thinking that a 45mil hard cap will keep the Lakers from being the Lakers reeks of wishful thinking and ignorance.
True. It won't stop them from being swept in the 2nd round.

[LkrFan]

Anyone who thinks a hard salary cap will stop the Lakers from being an elite NBA team year in and year out is kidding himself.

Especially since they just inked a 20-year TV deal with Time Warner that will net them about $30M per year. I think the good Dr. Buss can afford to pay Kobe his $30M and still ink top free agents with a great business deal like that.

[ElNono]

Especially since they just inked a 20-year TV deal with Time Warner that will net them about $30M per year. I think the good Dr. Buss can afford to pay Kobe his $30M and still ink top free agents with a great business deal like that.

But the idea of the cap is that he wouldn't be able to pay more than the cap for the whole team. The thing is, you have to be naive to think that Dr Buss wouldn't 'invest' some money in some companies which in turn 'sponsor' some of these new signings... It's not that difficult to work around the hard cap, and it's a lot easier to do so for teams with a lot of dough...

[DeadlyDynasty]

True. It won't stop them from being swept in the 2nd round.

Sure beats having to eat this shit sandwich: http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/04/15/spurs-excited-about-memphis-challenge-after-late-grizzlies-tank-job/

The Lakers will be back. The Spurs not so much.

These are things we know.

[ElNono]

As long as Tommy Nuñez is in the league we have a shot, tbh :lobt2:

[mencken]

But by wanting to do away with guaranteed contracts, they want to sign them and then not take the risks. I can understand trying to lower 5 year guaranteed deals to maybe 3. But there's always certain risks in investments. Wanting to have an easy out for their fuckups is not really a solution either (well, might be to the owners, but it's screwing the players).

Personally, I'm not opposed to that. A player is brought on board to help the team win a championship. If the money is guaranteed, the only motivation from that player is his own desire to win. If that players paycheck is on the line (like any worker in any other field), there's more motivation from the player. The whole guaranteed vs. unguaranteed thing doesn't interest me much, though. The only thing I'm interested in in the whole dispute is leveling the playing field between small and big market teams.

[baseline bum]

Personally, I'm not opposed to that. A player is brought on board to help the team win a championship. If the money is guaranteed, the only motivation from that player is his own desire to win. If that players paycheck is on the line (like any worker in any other field), there's more motivation from the player. The whole guaranteed vs. unguaranteed thing doesn't interest me much, though. The only thing I'm interested in in the whole dispute is leveling the playing field between small and big market teams.

What's the point of even having a contract if it doesn't have to be honored? It'll be hilarious watching players hold out the second they feel underpaid.