IA hate group: GOP presidential candidates must pledge fidelity to their spouses ...

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Iowa Conservatives Unveil Anti-Gay Marriage Pledge

Presidential candidates who sign The Marriage Vow will sign off on support of personal fidelity to his/her spouse, appointing faithful constitutionalists as judges, opposition to any redefinition of marriage, and prompt reform of uneconomic and anti-marriage aspects of welfare policy, tax policy, and divorce law. The Marriage Vow also outlines support for the legal advocacy for the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), humane efforts to protect women and children, rejection of anti-women Sharia Islam, safeguards for all married and unmarried U.S. military personnel, and commitment to downsizing government and the burden upon American families.

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/07/iowa-family-leader-unveils-anti-gay-marriage-pledge-romney?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Motherjones%2Fmojoblog+%28Mot herJones.com+|+MoJoBlog%29&utm_content=Twitter

[Winehole23]

So no candidate has signed, and there is nothing at the link that sustains the hate group designation in the headline. Do you have more information about this?

[Winehole23]

http://www.thefamilyleader.com/themarriagevow

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All rabidly anti-gay groups are by definition hate groups. They HATE gays, duh.

[Spurminator]

This is the same Pledge detailed by ThinkProgress as the "banning pornography" pledge. MotherJones seems to have gotten the point a little better.

[baseline bum]

So if they tried to stop blacks from marrying would you then consider them a hate group?

[DarrinS]

So if they tried to stop blacks from marrying would you then consider them a hate group?

Dumb

[boutons_deux]

So if they tried to stop blacks from marrying would you then consider them a hate group?

yes, any discrimination against is a form of hate.

extorting candidate to sign a pledge against child porn? isn't simple possession already an imprisonable offense?

[TeyshaBlue]

All rabidly anti-gay groups are by definition hate groups. They HATE gays, duh.

lol..boutons is his own hate group.:lol

[boutons_deux]

yep, boutons hates Repugs/VRWC and the long-term shithole they have dragged Human-Americans into.

[TeyshaBlue]

yep, boutons hates Repugs/VRWC and the long-term shithole they have dragged Human-Americans into.

:lol :tu

[Winehole23]

So if they tried to stop blacks from marrying would you then consider them a hate group?I'll rephrase: are they an SPLC designated or otherwise generally recognized hate group?

[Winehole23]

So if they tried to stop blacks from marrying would you then consider them a hate group?Some people have a moral objection to homosexuality. That objection is bullshit imho but they're entitled to hold it.

[baseline bum]

Some people have a moral objection to homosexuality. That objection is bullshit imho but they're entitled to hold it.

And are rightfully called hateful bastards for wanting to deny basic human rights to others.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

All rabidly anti-gay groups are by definition hate groups. They HATE gays, duh.

I guess democrats and republicans are hate groups then, too.

[Winehole23]

And are rightfully called hateful bastards for wanting to deny basic human rights to others.Is marriage a basic human right? Serious question.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

http://www.zeigen.com/blog/wp-content/dramatic-chipmunk.gif

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ha ha, I parsed it right, as did many others, except for the dumb mofo's here who whine about "context"

Following Controversy Over Pledge, Family Leader Clarifies Anti-Porn Statement

"ThinkProgress, ABC, the Washington Post, the New York Daily News, Slate, and numerous other news outlets read to call for a blanket ban on all pornography.

THE FAMiLY LEADER’s head Bob Vander Plaats has reacted to the growing controversy about his pledge by backing away from its plain meaning. Today, he claimed, “We are not calling for a nationwide band [sic] on pornography,” and that the pledge is really intended “to imply opposition to women being forced into pornography or prostitution.”

Although Mr. Vander Plaats’ interpretation of his pledge’s language is not consistent with the text as written

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Just another lying hate group exposed in their hate and authoritarian desire to extort THEIR morality out of others. The language in their formal, carefully written "pledge" is easy to parse.

[Spurminator]

:lmao

You just proved everything I already said. Thanks.

[Trainwreck2100]

And are rightfully called hateful bastards for wanting to deny basic human rights to others.

marriage ain't a basic human right

[baseline bum]

Is marriage a basic human right? Serious question.

Yes. Do you not consider it as part of the right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness?

[Trainwreck2100]

Yes. Do you not consider it as part of the right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness?

no

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the hate-riddled pledge includes:

“Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA’s first African-American President.”

yes, Barry is "logically" implicated in the the disastrous state of black families these last 100 years or so.

... the kind of "logic" that a bubba slurps up like it was BBQ sauce on his obese wife's cottage cheese ass.

[ElNono]

I think heterosexual couples are already doing an outstanding job in desecrating marital and family values. Not sure why they want exclusive rights to do that, tbh.

[Winehole23]

Yes. Do you not consider it as part of the right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness?Not sure. Equality before the law is one thing; this is another.

[boutons_deux]

"right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness"

That's not US law, it's nothing but vague statements.

The only rights in existence anywhere depend society enforcing/protecting them. God isn't in the picture.

[Winehole23]

I love the preamble to the Declaration of Independence too, but what's the constitutional standing of that? Seriously?

[Winehole23]

(pizza sweaties)

[Winehole23]

I thought being a hateful bastard was protected speech. I guess we'll see. Apparently it's all up for grabs now.

[Winehole23]

Well is it, BaselineBum? Is it a crime to hate, all by itself?

[baseline bum]

Well is it, BaselineBum? Is it a crime to hate, all by itself?

Oh wow, you were serious? I thought you were just trolling. I'm not sure where you get the idea I would want Christian hate speech legally silenced.

[Winehole23]

You personally, I don't think so. But there is such a thing as a hate crime.

[Winehole23]

What's the point of designating hate groups?

[Winehole23]

Is it just rhetorical, or does the law swing a sword behind it?

[boutons_deux]

Agreed, I've always thought "hate crime" was silly concept. and it's always fun to negate a phrase or concept. what's a "love crime" (rape?)

violence against somebody just because they are not male (wife/girlfriend beating is acceptable to 15% of Americans), not your ethnic group, not your race, not your nationality doesn't need the adjective "hate". It's just a crime (well, not for everybody).

[LnGrrrR]

Is marriage a basic human right? Serious question.

Do you mean government recognition of marriage, or just the ability to choose who we want to spend the rest of our lives with in a formal ceremony? :)

[Blake]

what's a "love crime"

:lol

Krispy Kreme, imo

[Boris]

Don't marriage vows pledge fidelity to your spouse?