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coyotes_geek
07-11-2011, 09:38 AM
CG: Ireland, Portugal, Greece, now it's Italy's turn to have fun with austerity.

Our turn is coming.

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NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- World markets slumped Monday, as fears about debt crises plagued both Europe and the United States.

Italy in particular, was shoved into the spotlight. Public sparring last week between Italy's prime minister, Silvio Berlusconi, and finance minister Giulio Tremonti heightened fears that the debt crisis in Greece and Portugal was spreading to the continent's third-largest economy.

"Beware." Tremonti was quoted as saying by Italian newspapers, in response to rumors that he might resign. "If I fall, then Italy falls. If Italy falls, then so falls the euro. It is a chain."

Global investors are concerned that Tremonti -- credited with saving Italy from the worst of the euro zone's debt crisis -- will be forced out of the government, after his push for steep spending cuts was met with resistance from the prime minister and other cabinet members.

That raises fears that Italy's government is not as committed to enacting necessary austerity measures, as Greece or other debt-stricken euro zone countries.

"What we need to see in Italy is some concrete and clear demonstration that they're not going to be backsliding on austerity -- and that Tremonti will not lose his job," said Peter Westaway, chief European economist with Nomura.

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In what Italian media dubbed "Black Friday," Italian stocks and bond yields plummeted at the end of last week, and trading was suspended for some Italian bank stocks following sharp sell-offs.

"What we're seeing over the last few days in Italy is investors are already starting to speculate against Italy," Westaway said. "I don't think policymakers can sit on their hands any longer and just hope contagion doesn't happen."

The selling continued Monday amid fears that those banks won't be able to pass euro zone stress tests -- the results of which will be published Friday. Of the 91 European banks that will undergo the stress tests, about 15 are expected to fail.

Shares of Banco Bilbao Vizcaya Argentaria (BBVA) fell more than 6%, while shares of Bank of Ireland (IRE), Barclays (BCS) and Deutsche Bank (DB) all slumped about 4%.

Jitters about the debt crisis spilled over to Europe's major stock indexes, sending Britain's FTSE 100 (UKX) down 0.7%, Germany's DAX (DAX) falling 1.8% and France's CAC 40 (CAC40) tumbling 2.3%.

The European Council called an emergency meeting Monday to discuss the continent's debt crisis, ahead of an already scheduled meeting of the eurozone's 17 finance ministers.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/07/11/markets/italy_debt/index.htm?iid=Lead

MannyIsGod
07-11-2011, 09:48 AM
Hmm, investors betting against themselves seems to be a pretty sure way to insure this type of shit happens. Where have I seen that before?

boutons_deux
07-11-2011, 10:20 AM
"Where have I seen that before?"

Repug Darrel Issa betting on US default? :)

TDMVPDPOY
07-11-2011, 11:33 AM
lol italy

RandomGuy
07-12-2011, 10:42 AM
Italy going the way of the Greece et al. is yet another thing to worry about. The consequences for the Euro are getting worse and worse.

I used to doubt talk of the break up of the EU, but these days, not so much.

coyotes_geek
07-12-2011, 10:45 AM
Great Britain certainly knew what the hell they were doing by staying with the Pound.

boutons_deux
07-12-2011, 10:45 AM
aka "contagion"

Winehole23
07-12-2011, 11:01 AM
nm

Winehole23
07-12-2011, 11:39 AM
Great Britain certainly knew what the hell they were doing by staying with the Pound.If Greece had its own currency it would still have a monetary bullet to fire.

Winehole23
07-12-2011, 11:40 AM
Devaluation.

coyotes_geek
07-12-2011, 11:44 AM
I wouldn't be surprised to see the euro go away whenever europe eventually works their way out of this mess. I'm sure there's a lot of Germans rethinking the wisdom of sharing a currency with the PIIGS.

DarkReign
07-12-2011, 12:42 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see the euro go away whenever europe eventually works their way out of this mess. I'm sure there's a lot of Germans rethinking the wisdom of sharing a currency with the PIIGS.

The Great Loser in the EU game, Germany. Man, I bet they wish they could get a mulligan on that one.

TDMVPDPOY
07-12-2011, 03:06 PM
germany bailing them out is just fail, should just buy up their state assets and fuck them over world dominance without havin to use bullets...germany is doing what china is doing...fkn tryin to be dominance in the world market with its excess reserves