Players who burned out too fast

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

feel free to add

[BlackSwordsMan]

tony parker

[IronMexican]

Francis and Marbury are always the first two who come to mind.

[resistanze]

T-Mac

[dirk4mvp]

To a lesser extent, Josh Howard.

Dude had 3 really good seasons but basically burned out once his best friend got traded (:cry). He shoulda flourished with a swell passer creating for him but he just blew up. The writing was on the wall during the Hornets series.

[resistanze]

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[IronMexican]

You can't control what da ball do. Man, ya'll crazy.

[baseline bum]

Francis was never good.

I'll have to go with Michael Ray Richardson
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[Technique]

Gilbert Arenas. Dude was swagged out and was an assassin late in the fourth. My favorite player pre injury.

He will never be the same again.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Tbh hibachi clearly fell of because of injuries. Guys like Francis and Marbury suddenly started sucking and no one really knows why.

[Technique]

A lot of players got injured and made a successful comeback.

I'm paraphrasing but, Arenas himself said that he wasn't the same, not physically, but mentally. He didn't have that same killer mentality that he had before the injury.

Now he's playing without passion, and just for the paycheck. Or atleast that's what his game is indicating.

Safe to say he burned out.

[pass1st]

Hardaway, went from becoming the next Jordan to being virtually unknown.

[joshdaboss]

Tbh hibachi clearly fell of because of injuries. Guys like Francis and Marbury suddenly started sucking and no one really knows why.

Or because he was a gunner and a terrible teammate who didn't make anyone else better. Crippled the games of others. Never played any defense. Take a look at his career record.

[rayjayjohnson]

tmac. /thread.

[Fabbs]

Shaun Kemp

[rayjayjohnson]

Shaun Kemp

good point

[DMC]

Bernard King

He came through Texas and just wrecked motherfuckers.

[baseline bum]

King was a monster, and to his credit he still came back and had a couple of nice years in Washington when no one thought he'd even play again. It kills me not seeing him in the Hall. I mean he wasn't pouting big-mouthed TMac; King was a motherfucker who delivered big in important games.

[NBA Champs]

Yao, Bender, Jay Williams, Redd and next on the list...Shaun Livingston..can I add B-Diddy too?

[baseline bum]

tbh he didn't flame out as quickly as the others, but finley had a relatively short prime. after his 8th season at only 31 years old he started to suck. that 04-05 season he only turned 32 but he just wasn't the same and we didn't even resign him after that. he went to the spurs and went from all star to role player.

Hard to believe how quick he fell off. Finley looked like a legit franchise player in that Utah series.

[mavsfan1000]

To a lesser extent, Josh Howard.

Dude had 3 really good seasons but basically burned out once his best friend got traded (:cry). He shoulda flourished with a swell passer creating for him but he just blew up. The writing was on the wall during the Hornets series.
Kidd creates differently than Harris does. Harris is more of a drive and kick while Kidd waits for the other players to make something happen and then pass. Howard just couldn't thrive with Kidd's style.

[JMarkJohns]

Kevin Johnson... guy was amazing in his prime. He was a 20-10 machine. He had like 4 prime years before his knee injuries set in, and his career stats are still like 18 ppg, 9 apg on 49% FG. His prime years from 1988-89 through 91-92 were roughly 22 ppg, 11 apg, 1.75 spg, on 50% FG. Multiple All-Star, multiple All-NBAer. Never quite recovered post injuries. Still had some solid numbers and good seasons at random (averaged 20-9 twice in next six seasons), but never the consistently dominant force after his seventh year in the league. Just missed too many games to be counted on, playing in just over half the games possible from 1994-95 through his initial retirement following the 1997-98 season.

Statistically (basketball-reference.com) he's rated as the 80th best player ever in NBA history, and that's playing 2/3rds of his career with reoccurring injuries. Probably would have challenged for top-50 with sustained health. Francis is 154 and Marbury is 113 by the same equation.

[JayTheClown]

The 2 Hardaways, Tim and Afernee

[lefty]

Lol at Laetner going to Barcelona while Isiah & Wilkins watched the Olympics on TV

[timtonymanu]

Can I say Richard Jefferson?

Went from a 20 PPG scorer in Milwaukee to one of the worst players on the Spurs.

Oh and Vince Carter turned to shit pretty fast.

[LnGrrrR]

Len Bias?

[pass1st]

Len Bias never even played NBA so I don't think that counts

[Baseline]

Y'all are forgetting the ultimate.

Len Bias.

Bias was positively scary, and I have no doubt that he would have been a Hall of Fame NBA player.

My favorite memory of Bias was when he would take off for a dunk...he would make a shrill sound like a plane right before takeoff. It was a chilling sound to hear, because you knew you better run for cover. Bias dunked really hard - and really often. He enjoyed the fact that he could jump out of the gym, but also knew that nobody was bad enough to stop him from doing it. Dude had the killer instinct for sure.

[frodo]

smokey was a real good player from 05 to 07 tbh but good time was too short for him, weed ruined his career. t-mac didn't burn out too fast mayne nigga joined the league in 97 although in his first years he lived in his cousin's shadow he later established himself as a star player in orlando, he had some good years in orlando in which he was da league's leading scorer two years in a row. even after joining houston playing wit dat 7'6 jinx he was still one of the league's top scorers with 25/5/5 season averages

steve never been good as t-mac but he was still an all-star caliber, nigga got jinxed so bad and was not any more the same player as pre-02. steve was drafted in 99, the same year with brand, odom etc...

[LkrFan]

Hardaway, went from becoming the next Jordan to being virtually unknown.

Good call. Penny was a MFer before the injuries wreaked his career.

[DMC]

Y'all are forgetting the ultimate.

Len Bias.

Bias was positively scary, and I have no doubt that he would have been a Hall of Fame NBA player.

My favorite memory of Bias was when he would take off for a dunk...he would make a shrill sound like a plane right before takeoff. It was a chilling sound to hear, because you knew you better run for cover. Bias dunked really hard - and really often. He enjoyed the fact that he could jump out of the gym, but also knew that nobody was bad enough to stop him from doing it. Dude had the killer instinct for sure.

As did his dealer

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Regarding penny, I really don't think getting micro fracture surgery and 315 other different knee surgeries, losing any athleticism you had, and sucking is "burning out".

[The Batman]

Baron Davis with the terribles

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

tbh he didn't flame out as quickly as the others, but finley had a relatively short prime. after his 8th season at only 31 years old he started to suck. that 04-05 season he only turned 32 but he just wasn't the same and we didn't even resign him after that. he went to the spurs and went from all star to role player.
Yeah, Finley is another good example. He was already well into the declining phase by the time he hit 30. His prime was only really from '98 to '02.

[Lincoln]

Too many years of 40+ minutes tbh

[The Batman]

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[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Also, he had a long prime and I don't think he burned out "too fast", but Tim Duncan's decline happened quickly. He looked like he had plenty of good years left playing at an AS level through the first half of the '09 season, but he went from AS to role player pretty quickly post 2009 AS break. I don't really know why given he doesn't have TONS of mileage on him or anything and he takes really good care of himself when he's not playing basketball.

[Axe Murderer]

what about Andrei Kirilenko?

he had a good 3 year stretch where he was one of the best all around players in basketball, and then he just seemed to disappear

[DMC]

Also, he had a long prime and I don't think he burned out "too fast", but Tim Duncan's decline happened quickly. He looked like he had plenty of good years left playing at an AS level through the first half of the '09 season, but he went from AS to role player pretty quickly post 2009 AS break. I don't really know why given he doesn't have TONS of mileage on him or anything and he takes really good care of himself when he's not playing basketball.
Short timer syndrome.

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

McDyess, & Jefferson.

[Ace]

^ This faggot's dad

[frodo]

Also, he had a long prime and I don't think he burned out "too fast", but Tim Duncan's decline happened quickly. He looked like he had plenty of good years left playing at an AS level through the first half of the '09 season, but he went from AS to role player pretty quickly post 2009 AS break. I don't really know why given he doesn't have TONS of mileage on him or anything and he takes really good care of himself when he's not playing basketball.

there ain't that many players drafted 97' or before who're still performing at AS level imho, Kobe, Kidd and maybe KG thats all names i can remember. Duncan was heavily overused in his prime and he also suffered injuries every now and then. nigga started in ASG every year since he joined da league in 97 until the streak ended in 09 IIRC, 4 rings and 20+10 career averages

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

^ This faggot's dad

Amusing.

[ChuckD]

Tbh hibachi clearly fell of because of injuries. Guys like Francis and Marbury suddenly started sucking and no one really knows why.

Actually, the "why" isn't that difficult, but I'm sure it escaped them. They didn't put in the work. Both of them relied on their athletic gifts, but when their quicks and vert went south, so did their games.

[pass1st]

I wonder if LBJ will be added to the list one day

[Ace]

Amusing.

Story of your sex life...

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

Story of your sex life...

Insulting.

[Venti Quattro]

Harold Miner :lol

[phxspurfan]

Mark Price
Peja Stojakovic

I'm calling these now:

Rodney Stuckey
Monta Ellis
Deron Williams
Chris Bosh

[lefty]

Y'all are forgetting the ultimate.

Len Bias.

Bias was positively scary, and I have no doubt that he would have been a Hall of Fame NBA player.

My favorite memory of Bias was when he would take off for a dunk...he would make a shrill sound like a plane right before takeoff. It was a chilling sound to hear, because you knew you better run for cover. Bias dunked really hard - and really often. He enjoyed the fact that he could jump out of the gym, but also knew that nobody was bad enough to stop him from doing it. Dude had the killer instinct for sure.
Imagine Len Bias with that Celtics team

lol Lakers, lol Bulls

[LkrFan]

Imagine Len Bias with that Celtics team

lol Lakers, lol Bulls

Imagine not tanking to draft Timmy D when you have a top 10 all time center already on your roster. LOL ZERO rings for the 210. :toast

[jdiggy0424]

Bill Walton. Considering what he did with that Blazers team, imagine if he'd had been injury free for at least 10 years. Were talking about a top 10 player of all time no question.

[lefty]

Imagine not tanking to draft Timmy D when you have a top 10 all time center already on your roster. LOL ZERO rings for the 210. :toast

Yeah because we were going to win 62 games with Robinson out for a season

AJ, Del Negro, Perdue



Dat Team

[Biggems]

burned out and being raped of a career by injuries are two separate things.

Shawn Kemp is one of the first that comes to my mind. Another is Dennis "D3" Scott. Scott's career was shooting towards the sky, until those missed FTs in the 95 Finals....after that, he was never the same.

[DMC]

Imagine not tanking to draft Timmy D when you have a top 10 all time center already on your roster. LOL ZERO rings for the 210. :toast
You would be CelticsFan, same clown face, but different leg to ride.

[Axe Murderer]

Bill Walton. Considering what he did with that Blazers team, imagine if he'd had been injury free for at least 10 years. Were talking about a top 10 player of all time no question.

actually that's a fucking huge stretch but ok

my god, i've never heard of you, but you've had two of the shittiest takes I've ever seen on here in only a span of a few hours.

lol Dwight Howard getting dominated in Europe
lol Bill Walton a no question top 10 player if healthy

[Killakobe81]

havent read the whole thread but derrick Coleman had a series against the cavs in the 90's that made me and many others think we had seen the future at PF. DC scored, boarded defended at such a high level ... as much as I loved Kemp I thought DC would be better.

On that note, Kemp got fat ... if either had the work ethic or duncan, KG or dirk either could of been the best PF in NBA history over duncan, malone and chuck ...ESPECIALLY Coleman.

[vato loco]

derek anderson

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rashard lewis

antoine walker

aaron brookes

[ambchang]

burned out and being raped of a career by injuries are two separate things.

Shawn Kemp is one of the first that comes to my mind. Another is Dennis "D3" Scott. Scott's career was shooting towards the sky, until those missed FTs in the 95 Finals....after that, he was never the same.

Agreed, too many guys who had their career derailed instead of "burned out".

OTOH, wasn't Anderson the dude who missed all those FTs?

My list would include Shawn Kemp and Vin Baker.

If you include injuries, I am not sure how Ralph Sampson hasn't made it yet.

[JoeTait75]

havent read the whole thread but derrick Coleman had a series against the cavs in the 90's that made me and many others think we had seen the future at PF. DC scored, boarded defended at such a high level ... as much as I loved Kemp I thought DC would be better.

Kenny Anderson and Chris Morris were both on that Nets team and they were the same types as DC- talented but only played when they wanted to. New Jersey in that era was a team full of wasted talent. Petrovic was the only guy who showed up every night.

[djohn2oo8]

derek anderson

brain grant

rashard lewis

antoine walker

aaron brookes

Not really sure if Brooks burned out. He had 1 really good year offensively, but teams somewhat figured out how to guard him, and it fucked with his head. Undersized guards who play no defense aren't meant to last long.

[Ice009]

Y'all are forgetting the ultimate.

Len Bias.

Bias was positively scary, and I have no doubt that he would have been a Hall of Fame NBA player.

My favorite memory of Bias was when he would take off for a dunk...he would make a shrill sound like a plane right before takeoff. It was a chilling sound to hear, because you knew you better run for cover. Bias dunked really hard - and really often. He enjoyed the fact that he could jump out of the gym, but also knew that nobody was bad enough to stop him from doing it. Dude had the killer instinct for sure.

I recall watching some Youtube videos of him about a year ago and I also noticed that he had a feathery soft jump shot. Was he as good of a shooter as he looked like in those clips?

There was also this insane block where his hand is near the top of the backboard, freaking amazing!

Basically he looked like he had the whole package - Incredible athleticism, feathery soft jumper, and decent passer too. His body reminded me of Lebron a bit. Lebron before Lebron, but a better player?

Also, how did the Celtics draft him? Didn't they win the Championship the year before? If so, how do they get the draft a player like Bias? How was the draft setup back then?

[mountainballer]

Ron Mercer

[sananspursfan21]

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[Phillip]

Roy Tarpley

[Killakobe81]

Kenny Anderson and Chris Morris were both on that Nets team and they were the same types as DC- talented but only played when they wanted to. New Jersey in that era was a team full of wasted talent. Petrovic was the only guy who showed up every night.

I agree Tait, but Coleman had what was a breakout that series and was never the same ever again TBH...again that series I was actually rooting for the Cavs ... i liked them. nance, price brad young Ron harper heck even ehlo ... they played ball the right way. magic called them the future but it was never fully realized ...those teams were way better than the lebron cavs too ...

[Killakobe81]

would pay good money to see late 80' early 90's Cavs vs. mavs or heat from last year ...

Nance would of had a "shot" at defending dirk ...

[J_Paco]

Jerry Stackhouse
Jermaine O'Neal
Juwan Howard
Keith Van Horn
Nick Van Exel

[jacobdrj]

To a lesser extent, Josh Howard.

Dude had 3 really good seasons but basically burned out once his best friend got traded (:cry). He shoulda flourished with a swell passer creating for him but he just blew up. The writing was on the wall during the Hornets series.

Stupidhead is as Stupidhead does...

[hater]

Greg Oden

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

Tim Duncan

[JayTheClown]

Kerry Kittles

[admiralsnackbar]

Alfredrick Hughes.

Drafted mid-lottery. Started his first season in the NBA with tons of promise, strung together some amazing games but mostly just sucked, then steadily lurched towards being waived at season's end, never to play NBA basketball again. What the fuck happened to that guy?

[bdictjames]

Brandon Roy
Jermaine O'Neal
Richard Jefferson

[DMC]

Fred Hoiberg

[greensborohill]

joshdaboss

[thekingrobert]

stop naming people who played 10 good years, avg NBA career is about 3 years in itself, Joe Smith, Glenn Robinson, Andris Biedrins, Michael Olowokandi, Michael Dickerson, Kenny Thomas, Jamaal Magloire wasnt he an all star? Eddy Curry no desire. Richard Dumas coke problem. Jimmy Jackson, Clarence Weatherspoon, Big Country, Donyell Marshall. I tried no to make people with injuries a factor

[ynh]

Brian Williams (Bison Dele)
Chris Jackson (Macmood abdul riouf .. or however it is spelled)
LePhanso Ellis
Vin Baker

[ynh]

Dana Barros