SF Police shoot and kill man who shot at them, then ignorant black bystanders get mad

[BRHornet45]

good riddance. the clown deserved death for shooting at the cops like a moron. however judging by the way many of the hood rats were acting in this video, the cops should have just nicely asked this innocent and wonderful contributor to society to please stop shooting at them.

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San Francisco -- San Francisco police officers shot and killed a man after a gunbattle and foot chase in the Bayview district late Saturday afternoon.

At 4:44 p.m., two uniformed officers were patrolling Third Street between Oakdale and Palou avenues as part of a recent violence-reduction effort in the area. They encountered the man as they were conducting a fare inspection on a Muni light-rail platform, police Sgt. Michael Andraychak said Saturday.

As the officers tried to detain the man, he took off running and drew a gun, police said. The two officers chased him on foot for about 1 1/2 blocks down Third Street, police said. When the suspect shot at the officers, they returned fire, fatally wounding him, Andraychak said. The man was taken to San Francisco General Hospital, where he was pronounced dead at 7:01 p.m.

Police did not know how many shots were exchanged and would not say whether the suspect's gun had been retrieved, as the incident is still under investigation. Officers declined to release the suspect's name, saying only that he is believed to be between 19 and 21 years old.

Neither officer was injured.

Investigators were at the shooting scene into the evening, trying to piece together what happened. Some angry people at the site of the shooting complained that the officers had overreacted in the incident.

In accordance with the department's policy, the incident is being investigated by homicide investigators, the department's officer-involved shooting team, the district attorney's office and the Office of Citizen Complaints.

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Idiots.

[BRHornet45]

At the 15 second mark in the second video you can see one of the hoodrats pick up the gun that the criminal used and took it to try and make the police look guilty of shooting an unarmed man.


"The gun, which was not found immediately after the 5 p.m. shooting in the city's Bayview District, was believed to have been taken from the ground as officers tended to the suspect, said police Sgt. Michael Andraychak.

Investigators were able to find the gun after a member of the public provided video taken after the shooting, said Andraychak.

"I do not know the source, but it does appear to have been taken in the moments after the incident," said Andraychak."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/07/17/state/n024601D07.DTL&tsp=1

[Chachachango]

Nothing to see here. Just a dumbass thinking he superman,shooting at the police and thinking he can get away with it. And of course black people being black(no racist)

"Oh, I got my cricket android phone look how cool I am im recording, ya"

[DMC]

Thug4lyfe... however long that was.

Learn to shoot if you are going to shoot at armed, trained police officers.

[BlackSwordsMan]

scenes from that prequel of planet of the apes? they learn how to talk and use camera phones?

[BlackSwordsMan]

thank you laquanda for the play by play

[DMC]

All the techno gangstas here probably went under the bed after watching that.

[joeyjfive]

scenes from that prequel of planet of the apes? they learn how to talk and use camera phones?


Hahahahahhaahaahahhahahahahahah

[DMX7]

scenes from that prequel of planet of the apes? they learn how to talk and use camera phones?

It's like a competition to see who can say the most racist thing.

[SourCandy]

sprinkle some crack on him,open and shut case johnson.

[jag]

It's like a competition to see who can say the most racist thing.

:corn:

[Trill Clinton]

scenes from that prequel of planet of the apes? they learn how to talk and use camera phones?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Harlepolis/Gifs/2iqe1p5.gif

[ididnotnothat]

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfeduudMEU1qgwhu8o1_500.gif

[pawe]

Yo career is ovah! yo career is ovah!
Dumbass, they're gonna be on administrative PAID leave (vacation). He'll be sitting pretty on his couch in front of his big ass tv for a whole month.

[cheguevara]

He'll be sitting pretty on his couch in front of his big ass tv for a whole month.

not to mention he will be smoking medical marijuana as part of his "grief support" counseling

[BRHornet45]

http://www.sfexaminer.com/files/imagecache/large_scaled/blog_images/Kenneth%20Harding_crop_0.jpg

Suspect killed by San Francisco police was convicted pimp and suspect in pregnant woman's murder, Seattle cops say

Kenneth Harding, the 19-year-old killed by San Francisco police in a shootout Saturday, was a convicted pimp accused of having a 13-year-old girl perform oral sex on him and later demanding the teen make him “ho’ money” in Seattle, court documents show.

Harding, a Seattle resident, was fatally shot by two cops in the Bayview district after he fired at them, according to San Francisco police. Harding had been detained for evading a Muni fare about 4:45 p.m. on the Muni platform near Third Street and Oakdale Avenue.

The suspect tried to make a run for it, and opened fire “indiscriminately” in the crowded Mendell Plaza, firing off multiple shots as the cops chased him, police said.

Harding was also the “person of interest” in a fatal quadruple shooting last week in South Seattle that killed 19-year-old Tanaya Gilbert, along with her unborn child.

He had only been released from a year prison stay in April after a conviction for first-degree promoting prostitution, San Francisco police said. His rap sheet also includes a robbery conviction.

http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/crime/2011/07/suspect-killed-san-francisco-police-was-convicted-pimp-seattle-cops-say

[BRHornet45]

yet most of the black community are still mad and ignoring the facts. even a few sissy, fucked up in the head, Bay Area white people showed up to protest...wtf is wrong with the Bay Area? Ignorant fools defending a child molester, pimp, suspected murderer who fired off gunshots at the police.

http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2011/07/18/mn-sfshoot19_ph1_0503798995_part6.jpg

[BlackSwordsMan]

but according to victim's mother as she knelled praying to the gods asking why he was turning his life around and probably signed up for some college courses
oh lordy lord why

[CubanSucks]

Considering all of their reactions I wanted to laugh at those vids, but seeing someone actually dying was just fucked up. I know he was killed in self defense but still..it was very strange seeing someone die



yet most of the black community are still mad and ignoring the facts. even a few sissy, fucked up in the head, Bay Area white people showed up to protest...wtf is wrong with the Bay Area? Ignorant fools defending a child molester, pimp, suspected murderer who fired off gunshots at the police.

http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2011/07/18/mn-sfshoot19_ph1_0503798995_part6.jpg

that's San Francisco for you. The bleeding heart, PC, faggot white population loves to put the bullshit that is "social justice" over the facts

[symple19]

lol

[vato loco]

lol at the fatass white lady at the end of the second vid

5 fuckin times y they gotta shoot him 5 fuckin times

[Bill_Brasky]

sprinkle some crack on him,open and shut case johnson.

chuckle'd

[PM5K]

If you had to guess you'd think he shot at the officers because he knew he had killed that pregnant woman, so he didn't have much to loose.

I'd be worried about chain of custody on that firearm, except that he's dead so there won't be a defense attorney to raise that issue.

[pawe]

He's a convict, a pimp, exploited an underage girl, shot at the cops and also endangered the lives of innocent bystanders by firing indiscriminately and people cry foul?
FYI, when police fire their guns, they are subtly told to empty a full magazine so 5 bullets on that perp is not overkill.

And, if he lived, he will get a kidney, liver or blood transfusion and a more deserving person would've lost an opportunity to put those organs in good use.
I'll reserve my pity and humanity for a person who knows how to interact with the society properly.

[Halberto]

I hope Koolaid sees this.

[symple19]

I hate cops, but if he did indeed fire at them, then I'm glad he's dead.

[DMX7]

FYI, when police fire their guns, they are subtly told to empty a full magazine so 5 bullets on that perp is not overkill.


Where did you hear that?

[DMC]

Cops don't shoot to wound. This isn't the movies.

[pawe]

Where did you hear that?

We have a LEO on our gun club.
Once you fire, you empty your magazine because you dont know how many bullets will take to put down a threat. A bullet may hit a person but if it doesnt hit an organ then the threat might still pick up a weapon and kill you.

[pawe]

Cops don't shoot to wound. This isn't the movies.

Plus I think its against the law for police officers to shoot to maim a person anyway.
- And even if its not, I doubt they can hit the leg of a person running @ 50 yds away with a DA trigger Glock 22.

[DMC]

Plus I think its against the law for police officers to shoot to maim a person anyway.
- And even if its not, I doubt they can hit the leg of a person running @ 50 yds away with a DA trigger Glock 22.

They shoot for center mass.

One retired officer told me once he was in a shootout, I know he was, and he got cornered between two cars and the dude comes running up to him shooting, not hitting shit, and the cop had just gone to a fresh magazine. The guy said I shot him in the torso until he quit moving. He was twitching, I was shooting. He stopped twitching, I stopped shooting.

If the crowd wasn't there in that video, the cops would have shot that fucker a few more times.

[BRHornet45]

hey D why did you edit your post about the white guy who graduated with the best grades from a black school?

[Homeland Security]

I hate this story because in the end every San Francisco resident is still alive.

[Homeland Security]

If Al Qaeda ever were to pull off detonating a nuke in SF I think I would convert to Islam.

[silverblk mystix]

We have a LEO on our gun club.
Once you fire, you empty your magazine because you dont know how many bullets will take to put down a threat. A bullet may hit a person but if it doesnt hit an organ then the threat might still pick up a weapon and kill you.

Not exactly true.

You don't empty your magazine as some kind of "trained" action. You are trained to shoot at center mass and you are also trained to never draw your weapon until you absolutely have to kill. Any cop that empties his magazine is probably because he was scared shitless and thought he might die any second...adrenaline is pumping so hard you can't hardly focus and shoot straight and your body just does shit before you can regain control.

When adrenaline is pumping in a life or death situation the first thing the body does is send blood to the center of the body from the heart out ...leaving the extremities kinda numb and starved for oxygen...so you hope and pray that you can control your weapon enough to get out alive.

[pawe]

Not exactly true.

You don't empty your magazine as some kind of "trained" action. You are trained to shoot at center mass and you are also trained to never draw your weapon until you absolutely have to kill. Any cop that empties his magazine is probably because he was scared shitless and thought he might die any second...adrenaline is pumping so hard you can't hardly focus and shoot straight and your body just does shit before you can regain control.

When adrenaline is pumping in a life or death situation the first thing the body does is send blood to the center of the body from the heart out ...leaving the extremities kinda numb and starved for oxygen...so you hope and pray that you can control your weapon enough to get out alive.

Or probably because they are so focused on eliminating the threat that they will forget the round count and just rely on visual confirmation of the threat going down.
You can empty a 13 rd glock in less than 5 secs (I can empty my 9rd 1911 in 2 secs), a perp's bullet riddled body wont even shut down that fast.

Anyway, I still say 5-10 bullets in a criminal's body is not overkill like what they're crying about.

[The BodyGuard]

I can take down any man with one shot.

[DMC]

Not exactly true.

You don't empty your magazine as some kind of "trained" action. You are trained to shoot at center mass and you are also trained to never draw your weapon until you absolutely have to kill. Any cop that empties his magazine is probably because he was scared shitless and thought he might die any second...adrenaline is pumping so hard you can't hardly focus and shoot straight and your body just does shit before you can regain control.

Total bullshit.

Cops brandish their sidearm all the time when they don't have to kill, like after a car chase. They all draw down, but no one gets shot. Drawing the sidearm is a precautionary measure.


When adrenaline is pumping in a life or death situation the first thing the body does is send blood to the center of the body from the heart out ...leaving the extremities kinda numb and starved for oxygen...so you hope and pray that you can control your weapon enough to get out alive.No.

You know for a fact you are getting out alive. If you are going to enter a gunfight, you better have the attitude that you will survive no matter what. If you are hoping and praying, you are in the wrong business.

Anyhow, cops shoot to stop, not to kill. Killing is a natural occurrence after some shootings.

[BackStabber]

You'll also probably piss or crap yourself when in a gun fight.

[Halberto]

Fuck guns. Icicle crossbows are where its at. No evidence left behind.

[cheguevara]

too much racism up in here

[I. Hustle]

Fuck guns. Icicle crossbows are where its at. No evidence left behind.

I saw in a movie once where a guy stabbed another guy with a "knife" made out of ice that he carried around with him in a case. When the cops got there the ice had already melted.
So I took that idea and ran with it.
http://www.a3bs.com/imagelibrary/W64516G/W64516G_02_Freeze!-Hand-Gun-Ice-Tray.jpg

[silverblk mystix]

Total bullshit.

Cops brandish their sidearm all the time when they don't have to kill, like after a car chase. They all draw down, but no one gets shot. Drawing the sidearm is a precautionary measure.
No.

You know for a fact you are getting out alive. If you are going to enter a gunfight, you better have the attitude that you will survive no matter what. If you are hoping and praying, you are in the wrong business.

Anyhow, cops shoot to stop, not to kill. Killing is a natural occurrence after some shootings.

You don't know what you are talking about.

A cop who draws his weapon as some kind of precautionary measure will not be a cop for long...or is a movie cop...maybe that is where you are getting your info from.

The ONLY time...I repeat...the ONLY time a cop is supposed to draw his weapon is when his life or an innocent bystanders life is in immediate danger...and if you use your weapon...it is only to kill...not to maim...not as a precautionary measure or any such hollywood bullshit.

If you think that an attitude...of... "I know I am getting out alive"...is common...then you are as big a fool as any stupid cop with that attitude...

Cops are human...they are scared to not come home to their families--everyday--

So believe me when I tell you that a "human" is naturally scared when in a life or death situation...any cop who denies this is a fool or a liar and neither one of these will live long.

It is like when you ride a motorcycle...the moment you get cocky and think that you are an "expert driver"...is the moment that you are pretty likely to make a mistake and splatter yourself on the street.

Cops shoot to kill because if you are FORCED to draw your weapon and defend yourself or an innocent bystander...you only draw with the intent to kill. Period.

[pawe]

You don't know what you are talking about.

A cop who draws his weapon as some kind of precautionary measure will not be a cop for long...or is a movie cop...maybe that is where you are getting your info from.

The ONLY time...I repeat...the ONLY time a cop is supposed to draw his weapon is when his life or an innocent bystanders life is in immediate danger...and if you use your weapon...it is only to kill...not to maim...not as a precautionary measure or any such hollywood bullshit.

If you think that an attitude...of... "I know I am getting out alive"...is common...then you are as big a fool as any stupid cop with that attitude...

Cops are human...they are scared to not come home to their families--everyday--

So believe me when I tell you that a "human" is naturally scared when in a life or death situation...any cop who denies this is a fool or a liar and neither one of these will live long.

It is like when you ride a motorcycle...the moment you get cocky and think that you are an "expert driver"...is the moment that you are pretty likely to make a mistake and splatter yourself on the street.

Cops shoot to kill because if you are FORCED to draw your weapon and defend yourself or an innocent bystander...you only draw with the intent to kill. Period.

Wrong-o!

Civilians are the only ones not allowed to brandish a firearm.

LEO's can and will draw or draw down their firearms anytime on any kind of call. Some are even required to respond to some calls with the guns already in hand.
Ask a LEO how many times he has to draw/draw down his weapon everyday.
- Because, depending on how busy the area is, a LEO draws his firearms an average of 2-3 times a day. And it doesnt always lead to guns being fired either so that means they draw down to show someone they mean business or precautionary measure.

[silverblk mystix]

Wrong-o!

Civilians are the only ones not allowed to brandish a firearm.

LEO's can and will draw or draw down their firearms anytime on any kind of call. Some are even required to respond to some calls with the guns already in hand.
Ask a LEO how many times he has to draw/draw down his weapon everyday.
- Because, depending on how busy the area is, a LEO draws his firearms an average of 2-3 times a day. And it doesnt always lead to guns being fired either so that means they draw down to show someone they mean business or precautionary measure.

So wrong...it's not even funny.

If you are responding to a call and someone has already been hurt...or if shots were already fired...of course you draw your weapon---because you are in fear for your life...there is someone armed and dangerous.

Wherever you are getting your info...it is just plain wrong.

Cops on average can go YEARS without drawing their weapon...much less firing it.

If you are approaching a vehicle at night...and you cannot SEE the drivers hands...you are scared shitless...unless you are a stupid idiot. If you cannot see their hands...you may place your hand on your weapon and undo the holster...or even draw your weapon and point it down....but...AGAIN...it is because you are in fear for your life...

This is why sometimes you get pulled over and the cop seems to talk and act like an asshole...it is because he is scared...

What I ALWAYS do when getting pulled over is to turn on my dome light...place both my hands on the steering wheel and I NEVER make a sudden move...if the officer asks me for my license and registration...I TELL him that I am going to use my right hand and take out my wallet...and then do EXACTLY that.

Usually, this relaxes the officer enough so that he can talk to me normally and not in a pissed off/agitated voice.

[DMC]

You don't know what you are talking about.

A cop who draws his weapon as some kind of precautionary measure will not be a cop for long...or is a movie cop...maybe that is where you are getting your info from.

The ONLY time...I repeat...the ONLY time a cop is supposed to draw his weapon is when his life or an innocent bystanders life is in immediate danger...and if you use your weapon...it is only to kill...not to maim...not as a precautionary measure or any such hollywood bullshit.

If you think that an attitude...of... "I know I am getting out alive"...is common...then you are as big a fool as any stupid cop with that attitude...

Cops are human...they are scared to not come home to their families--everyday--

So believe me when I tell you that a "human" is naturally scared when in a life or death situation...any cop who denies this is a fool or a liar and neither one of these will live long.

It is like when you ride a motorcycle...the moment you get cocky and think that you are an "expert driver"...is the moment that you are pretty likely to make a mistake and splatter yourself on the street.

Cops shoot to kill because if you are FORCED to draw your weapon and defend yourself or an innocent bystander...you only draw with the intent to kill. Period.
Police officers routinely draw their sidearm and hold it near their opposing leg during a routine night time traffic stop. Are they certain to kill someone?

I have no idea where you get your information, but you might want to do some homework.

[DMC]

So wrong...it's not even funny.

If you are responding to a call and someone has already been hurt...or if shots were already fired...of course you draw your weapon---because you are in fear for your life...there is someone armed and dangerous.

Wherever you are getting your info...it is just plain wrong.

Cops on average can go YEARS without drawing their weapon...much less firing it.

If you are approaching a vehicle at night...and you cannot SEE the drivers hands...you are scared shitless...unless you are a stupid idiot. If you cannot see their hands...you may place your hand on your weapon and undo the holster...or even draw your weapon and point it down....but...AGAIN...it is because you are in fear for your life...

"The ONLY time...I repeat...the ONLY time a cop is supposed to draw his weapon is when his life or an innocent bystanders life is in immediate danger"

Are you telling me a traffic cop intentionally puts his life in immediate danger to issue a speeding ticket?

You might want to rethink that.

Precautionary... that's the key word. Focus on that.



This is why sometimes you get pulled over and the cop seems to talk and act like an asshole...it is because he is scared...

Or he's on a power trip. I've never had a cop be an asshole to me.


What I ALWAYS do when getting pulled over is to turn on my dome light...place both my hands on the steering wheel and I NEVER make a sudden move...if the officer asks me for my license and registration...I TELL him that I am going to use my right hand and take out my wallet...and then do EXACTLY that.

You're paranoid. You need to relax. Flash that CHL, that calms the situation.


Usually, this relaxes the officer enough so that he can talk to me normally and not in a pissed off/agitated voice.
Again, you are paranoid.

[silverblk mystix]

Police officers routinely draw their sidearm and hold it near their opposing leg during a routine night time traffic stop. Are they certain to kill someone?

I have no idea where you get your information, but you might want to do some homework.

I explained it already...

Put yourself in the officers shoes...

You pull over a vehicle at night...you cannot see into the car, it is dark, at any time you can get blown away...sure 9 times out of ten...it will turn out to be a routine traffic stop and the driver will be some housewife in her 40's...no problem.

The one time out of a hundred...it could be some idiot that is out on parole...he just drank some booze...and he swears he will never go back to prison...

The officer has no idea if THIS traffic stop is the one where the convict is pulling out a weapon from under the seat to blow his shit away...so THIS is why they draw their weapon...because they do not want to be the ONE cop that nonchalantly walked up to a car without his weapon ready and got blown to hell.

This is the reality of policework. I am not paranoid. This is police procedure ..which no-one ever thinks about....they just get pissed when they see a video and a cop shoots a kid and the kid happened to NOT have a weapon...well...the officer THOUGHT that the kid pulled out a shiny metal object from his waistband...and in the split-second before he could confirm that it was a gun....he shot and killed...and the kid was only pulling out his cell phone, enraging all the cop haters to call the cops dirty and the shooting unjustified.

[silverblk mystix]

"The ONLY time...I repeat...the ONLY time a cop is supposed to draw his weapon is when his life or an innocent bystanders life is in immediate danger"

Are you telling me a traffic cop intentionally puts his life in immediate danger to issue a speeding ticket?

You might want to rethink that.

Precautionary... that's the key word. Focus on that.


Or he's on a power trip. I've never had a cop be an asshole to me.

You're paranoid. You need to relax. Flash that CHL, that calms the situation.

Again, you are paranoid.

Read the last post regarding the traffic stop. True police procedure.

I am not paranoid-I just know what cops are faced with and I know why they respond the way they do. It is common sense.

I work for a LE agency. I am not on the street anymore. I work inside now. Corrections. Fact.

Don't care what anyone thinks about it either. Just a job.

I have had the training but decided that I didn't want to make a living pulling people over for the same shit that I do myself, like driving over 55 mph, and other minor things. It is just hypocritical to take people's freedoms away for things that I might be guilty of myself. Everyone thinks differently. I just decided to transfer to the corrections side...now I work with real winners everyday (inmates). :lol

[DMC]

I explained it already...

Put yourself in the officers shoes...

You pull over a vehicle at night...you cannot see into the car, it is dark, at any time you can get blown away...sure 9 times out of ten...it will turn out to be a routine traffic stop and the driver will be some housewife in her 40's...no problem.

The one time out of a hundred...it could be some idiot that is out on parole...he just drank some booze...and he swears he will never go back to prison...

The officer has no idea if THIS traffic stop is the one where the convict is pulling out a weapon from under the seat to blow his shit away...so THIS is why they draw their weapon...because they do not want to be the ONE cop that nonchalantly walked up to a car without his weapon ready and got blown to hell.

This is the reality of policework. I am not paranoid. This is police procedure ..which no-one ever thinks about....they just get pissed when they see a video and a cop shoots a kid and the kid happened to NOT have a weapon...well...the officer THOUGHT that the kid pulled out a shiny metal object from his waistband...and in the split-second before he could confirm that it was a gun....he shot and killed...and the kid was only pulling out his cell phone, enraging all the cop haters to call the cops dirty and the shooting unjustified.

I understand what you are trying to say, but you've already screwed the pooch here when you said it's not a precautionary measure. If it's not precautionary, why draw a gun you aren't even going to point at anyone?

The potential for danger does not equate to a life threatening situation. If it's life threatening for a cop, it's also life threatening for the driver, because he's actually getting a gun drawn on him.

There are some cops who rarely draw their weapon, but others that issue search warrants and search domiciles, they usually have their weapons drawn even if out of sight.

"The ONLY time...I repeat...the ONLY time a cop is supposed to draw his weapon is when his life or an innocent bystanders life is in immediate danger"

Traffic stops are not "immediate danger" else there would always be backup and no one would approach the vehicle. The driver would be requested to step out of the vehicle, place both hands in clear sight and get down onto the ground with hands behind the head. That's what happens in car chases. Traffic stops must therefore be different.

[pawe]

I explained it already...

The officer has no idea if THIS traffic stop is the one where the convict is pulling out a weapon from under the seat to blow his shit away...so THIS is why they draw their weapon...because they do not want to be the ONE cop that nonchalantly walked up to a car without his weapon ready and got blown to hell.



You said earlier my info is wrong and now you're contradicting yourself?

LEO's draw down their firearms a lot of times specially on highly populated areas because they just dont know what they'll be up against when responding to a call or a stop.

Face it, we live in a world where people do not respect lives and do not fear the authorities anymore. LEOs need to be more paranoid and like what you said earlier, they have families too. They'd rather kill the perp than follow proper procedures and get shot.

[silverblk mystix]

You said earlier my info is wrong and now you're contradicting yourself?

LEO's draw down their firearms a lot of times specially on highly populated areas because they just dont know what they'll be up against when responding to a call or a stop.

Face it, we live in a world where people do not respect lives and do not fear the authorities anymore. LEOs need to be more paranoid and like what you said earlier, they have families too. They'd rather kill the perp than follow proper procedures and get shot.

You just proved my point..."they draw their weapons because they just don't know what they'll be up against....."

Exactly...they are in fear for their lives or safety or the lives and safety of innocent bystanders-so they draw their weapons. This is not a precaution...this is in response to a fear that their lives may be in danger. This is correct procedure. This is why at night...is when a traffic stop becomes dangerous...you never know who is inside the vehicle, if they are armed, if they are crazy, if they are pointing a weapon,etc...

It is different than just a precautionary measure. Or you can even say it is semantics...but the overriding factor is always if you feel that your life or an innocent civilians life is in danger.

[silverblk mystix]

...just to clarify...

there is a difference in a type of call...

If a police unit are dispatched, say, to a report of someone wanting to report a car break-in...or a broken window...or a fucking cat up a tree...

The officers will respond in a normal courteous way (hopefully), their weapons holstered, and in a manner of being of service or of being helpful to a caller in distress.

If the same unit is dispatched to a risky neighborhood and the call reports that shots were reported fired...or that a neighbor heard gunshots and would like the police to check the neighbors house...

then the police will respond to the call and they will normally draw their weapons and consider that there could be danger (ie: in fear for their lives)...then this is why the weapons are drawn. It always comes down to a matter of fearing for their safety.

[Chomag]

Police draw their weapons all the time, usually when they pull over a suspect or someone that has resisted arrest. Years ago when I was younger I myself was pulled over and taken into custody at gun-point. Due to mistaken identity of course :p: All Becuase I fit the description of who they were looking for that night.

Thankfully it seems to be a once in a lifetime experience because it was not fun at all. :lol

Back to the point though, watch "Cops" and you see that it's pretty much routine.

[phxspurfan]

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2011/07/18/suspect-shot-dead-by-sf-police-was-convicted-child-rapist/