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KobeOwnsDuncan
07-19-2011, 12:35 PM
Discuss

ChumpDumper
07-19-2011, 12:38 PM
Parker? Probably.

Bowen. No.

Flight3107
07-19-2011, 12:43 PM
:lmao:lmao:lmao

lefty
07-19-2011, 01:00 PM
Bowen? yes

Parker? hell no

Leetonidas
07-19-2011, 01:06 PM
Fox and Horry HOFers?

Discuss

hater
07-19-2011, 01:15 PM
Interview with Bruce Bowen.
by manuginobili.comīs users / 01-22-06



33 questions made by the manuginobili.com`s users
Spacial Thanks to Manu in his journalist role.

1 - Sportman: Bush or Fidel Castro? Why do you make the choice? What do you like to do in your freetime? Dance `salsa` and what else?
Fidel, because he was a good baseball and basketball player. In my freetime a read a lot and I learn Spanish.


2 - Mary Jo: Do you think your Get Fit With Bruce & Buddy Program has made an impact? How did you come up with this idea?
Yes, I think it is making an impact, more than anything else people are more focused on taking care of their bodies and trying to incorporate a better diet. It was in a class where I was suppose to make a mock press conference and at that time SA was ranked no. 2 in obesity and after learning that so many kids were diagnosed with type2 diabetes because of that I felt I could use who I am right now and try to make an impact.


3 - Gusano91: What do you remember from French basketball? Was that a good time? Have you ever came back? (or are you wainting Tony`s invitation).
It was a great time, a good learning process. Yes, I came back for tony's camp 3 years ago to Paris and then with the Spurs for the training camp last year.


4 - What city or touristic place do you like most of each city in which you played (Miami, San Antonio, Boston y Philadelphia)
Miami, such a diversity of cultures and I love the beach.


5 - Mdemian23: do you do any special 3p training?
Shoot as many as I can every day!! That simple!


6 - Gagg: which player you don`t like guarding?
Anyone that the officials give "touch" fouls to.


7 - Marogi: Do you think that USA TEAM players must be allstars or role players? Do you think you can be part or the team? Would you like to play the world cup?
That's a good one! I don't think they all have to be allstars, just some and role players. Sure I'd like, I'd love the opportunity.


8 - TonyCba: about the first time with Manu. Did you feel that he can steal you some minutes. Which was your first impresion?
Honestly I didn't know who he was, but once I knew he spoke Spanish, he was my new best friend ;-) . No, I didn't feel threatened by him being on the team.


9 - Roedorbasquebolero: Your defensive footwork is impressive. Sometimes it seems that you and your opponent are glued (which is good as long as the ref does not blow), and you're "dancing" with quick steps . Do you have a special technique additional to the fundamentals?
No, just a gift.


10 - Sandes: how did you become one of the most hated player for the opponentes?
Probably doing all the dirty work…


11 - Pablobualo: I know you like football and you like the Cowboys. Have you ever played? were you a linebacker?
Yes, I played a little bit in high school, on offense!!!


12 - Manteca: Can you tell us the story in Manuīs debut? Is it true that Kobe ask you `who is that rookie (about Manu)?
He just asked me, who the white boy was! And I told Kobe to speak Italian to him because he was fluent. I think he did.


13 - Jalberto: Are you deeply involved in your webpage? Have your fans a way to contact you there via chat or forum?
I answer all of my emails myself!


14 - Kuki: How do you accommodate your college studies to your NBA schedule? And what are your career plans when you graduate? Do your professors give you deadline extensions on assignments? Or are they hard on just you because you are "rich and famous"? And how do your classmates react when they realize that they have YOU in their classes?
At first they were kinda in awe, because an NBA player was taking his time to obtain an education, but a couple weeks I was just a regular student. They've been always very nice to me.


15 - Sotanzonlue: Who is your idol outside basketball and why?
I really don't have idols, I looked up to my brother a lot. I liked Joe Dumars, but he wasn't my idol.


16 - Crisaor: Who was the coach that influenced you most? Why do you think is easier for you make a 3p than a FT? who is the best defender of the league??
My high school coach, Bill Engle. No, it's easier to make a free throw…
It's hard to choose only one, but my top3 would be Ben Wallace, Alonzo Mourning and Jason Kidd.


17 - Neurus: What īstarī do you like to guard most? Do you speak with your opponent? ou try to get them nervous?
I like to guard all the best ones, different talents, different challenges. I don't like talking too much.


18 - Dennis Rodman: I donīt remember serious injuries in your career but you always have physical contact. Is there any explanation to that?
I guess is because of a good preparation in the offseasons.


19 - Gonzalodomiar: What championship did you enjoy most and why?
Last year's, because the series went 7th game and it was good basketball, a lot of adrenaline.


20 - Mitsui3P: are you into martial arts or zen?, if so, do you practice any? (i've noticed the design of your webpage has some oriental influences)
No no!


21 - Luky: what advice can you give to a child who is learning defense? look the waist, the legs, the eyes?
Focus on the mid section (waist). The player can't go anywhere without that!


22 - Mora_doce: How is your relationship with other teamīs fans? Do you have any funny story about that?
On Christmas day in Detroit I went on the floor and a fan says "merry Christmas, Bruce!" and right on top of him another yells "you suck, Bowen!!". It was pretty funny.


23 - Carina_cinomania: Do you ever think about coaching in the NBA after your playing career? Who do you think plays defense in a similar way as you? On a lighter note, choose one of this: Manu's finals hairstyle or Tim's now defunct Afro?
No, I don't plan to coach!! About the hair: NEITHER of those!!


24 - Lali: do you visit manuīs website, the forum or the Chat? Are you registred?
No, because I see him everyday!!!


25 - Florencia_arg: What would you like to know about Argentina? Have you listened some of our music?
Yes, I heard about Tango and his origins, and I'd love to have a MATE one day, but with my own straw!! He he . I listen to Diego Torres often.


26 - Disegaro: Why did you leave the Heat in 2001? What good memories do you have of the Heat?
I was looking for an opportunity to win a championship elsewhere. I had great teammates while I was there.


27 - Angelinside_n_out: Besides your studies, what other goals you still want to achieve?
Being a good father and a great husband!!


28 - Mattu: in last year playoffs semis against Seattle, Ray Allen said something about your defense and in Spain some call you Bruce `Lee`. Do you play "that" physical?
Ha ha ha!!! I didn't know that! I don't think I play "that" physical, but aggressively. Thanks for the LEE!


29 - Desde Saturno: What do you think about Argentinaīs National Team? Who can be a surprise in Japan? Do you think that USA Team will recover the īlost honor`?
I think they're a VERY GOOD team, I have no clue who can be a surprise and I hope that USA TEAM can bring home the gold again.


30 - Mono inquieto: Pop seems to be very strict. What does he ask you to improve? Does he give you more freedom or responsabilities?
He asks me to work very hard every single game and improve as a basketball player in general. He gives more responsibilities, but sometimes is a good thing to become the team we are.


31 - Zolrak: Was Muhamad Ali's figure important for you?
As a kid I remember he talked a lot, but most of the times he backed it up!!


32 - DanielaG: how much you do bench press?
245 I think…


33 - Raqui: Who is the best NBA player?
Obviously Michael Jordan was the best, Larry Bird, Magic and Hakeem. Right now… I don't know, hard to tell.


Thank you very much, see you!!
Bruce Bowen.

A million thanks for interrupting your reading and giving us part of your time
Manu.

KobeOwnsDuncan
07-19-2011, 01:15 PM
Fox and Horry HOFers?

Discuss

:lmao Not even comparable

hater
07-19-2011, 01:15 PM
which player you don`t like guarding?
Anyone that the officials give "touch" fouls to.


:lmao Kobe

KobeOwnsDuncan
07-19-2011, 01:17 PM
which player you don`t like guarding?
Anyone that the officials give "touch" fouls to.


:lmao Kobe

Sponsored by Tim Duncan's opposing matchups

hater
07-19-2011, 01:18 PM
Can you tell us the story in Manuīs debut? Is it true that Kobe ask you `who is that rookie (about Manu)?
He just asked me, who the white boy was! And I told Kobe to speak Italian to him because he was fluent. I think he did.

:lol Kobe asking about fresh white meat

KobeOwnsDuncan
07-19-2011, 01:25 PM
http://lakers.topbuzz.com/gallery/d/2080-2/kobe-dunk-full_getty-71796446ab012_spurs_lakers_8_18_42_pm.jpg

BRHornet45
07-19-2011, 02:09 PM
lmao wow the bar is set so low for some of you Spur fans. Parker "probably" a hall of famer? get the hell out of here

ChumpDumper
07-19-2011, 02:14 PM
It's the Basketball Hall of Fame -- not the NBA Hall of Fame. As the best player France has yet produced, he has a shot.

Halberto
07-19-2011, 02:17 PM
lmao wow the bar is set so low for some of you Spur fans. Parker "probably" a hall of famer? get the hell out of here

Winning a finals mvp is a pretty elite club, don't you think?



LOL.... nevermind. You never think.

hater
07-19-2011, 02:19 PM
David West had a great shot at the HOF until his knee exploded :lmao

Axe Murderer
07-19-2011, 02:20 PM
David West had a great shot at the HOF until his knee exploded :lmao

tbh i nominate det one as an early candidate for the Left Crew joke of the week.

where's lefty's understudy? imho

hitmanyr2k
07-19-2011, 02:31 PM
A one dimensional defender and a point guard that has never been a considered as one of the elite at his position isn't getting in the HOF. Parker has had a good career but his individual resume of one All-NBA third team selection and a fluke Finals MVP against one of the weakest East opponents of all-time won't get him in there.

Red Hawk #21
07-19-2011, 02:34 PM
What a retarded thread...Bruce Bowen and Hall of Fame shouldn't even be in a sentence together.

Trainwreck2100
07-19-2011, 02:38 PM
If parker was born in the us the answer would be an easy no
Bowen no

hitmanyr2k
07-19-2011, 02:52 PM
If parker was born in the us the answer would be an easy no
Bowen no

Being from France won't help anything. If Parker actually accomplished something while playing for France, maybe, but it's not like he has some extensive international career with many accolades like Ginobili that will make voters take notice.

Muser
07-19-2011, 02:57 PM
No and no.

Phillip
07-19-2011, 03:11 PM
Parker will probably get in, but shouldnt.

Bowen obviously shouldn't and wont.

Dunc n Dave
07-19-2011, 03:23 PM
Come on guys. I'm a die hard Spurs fan, but let's be real here. Parker is not a HOF'er, and I seriously doubt Bruce will be either. Neither have the numbers for consideration. Had Bruce won a DPOY award once or twice, then MAYBE, but no way he gets in without the DPOY in his trophy case.

Blame it on the media getting the vote for end of season awards. Bunch of idiots that just look at stats rather than watch the games (other than the Lakers and Kinicks games, that is). Let coaches or GMs do the voting and Bowen probably would've won at least one DPOY.

Axe Murderer
07-19-2011, 03:24 PM
a point guard that has never been a considered as one of the elite at his position

tbh i would say around 2006-07 parker was considered with one of the elites at his position but i see what you're saying

too short of a window imo


Being from France won't help anything. If Parker actually accomplished something while playing for France, maybe, but it's not like he has some extensive international career with many accolades like Ginobili that will make voters take notice.

Exactly, it's not like Parker's French National Team ever did anything of importance to help his case

Leetonidas
07-19-2011, 03:30 PM
When Parker was dropping 30+ constantly in 2008 many considered him a top 5 PG which would be considered elite at his position. I don't think he's even close to being a HOF player at the moment. Bowen is just laughable.

pass1st
07-19-2011, 03:32 PM
First euro finals MVP, and probably will be let in for that I guess. Not that hard to get in the HoF these days

Bill_Brasky
07-19-2011, 03:35 PM
Parker needs to do more, Bowen I don't even know why you asked.


They should invent the hall of class for spur players imo so we can recognize the classiest players to ever play the game

Dunc n Dave
07-19-2011, 03:42 PM
Like I said, Parker is not a HOF'er, but playing devil's advocate... one can argue that if Joe Dumars can make the HOF with a 16ppg, 4asts, and 2 reb career averages, then why not a guy like Manu or Parker?

All 3 played in the shadows of a superstar and delivered in crunchtime.

DMC
07-19-2011, 04:24 PM
No and no. Tim pretty much seals that for them. When you give one person that much credit, it means others don't get that credit. No one has called Tony the best PG ever, nor called Bruce the best defender ever. Manu will be in the HOF, but I highly doubt Tony will and I am certain Bruce will not. I don't even think Bruce will have his jersey retired in SA.

Then again, who fucking cares.

LkrFan
07-19-2011, 04:35 PM
Parker? Probably.

Bowen. No.

What makes TP a HOFer? This is a joke, right?

LkrFan
07-19-2011, 04:37 PM
lmao wow the bar is set so low for some of you Spur fans. Parker "probably" a hall of famer? get the hell out of here

Exactly. Homerism at it's best, tbh.

LkrFan
07-19-2011, 04:40 PM
Pau Gasol has a better shot than TP.

LkrFan
07-19-2011, 04:42 PM
Like I said, Parker is not a HOF'er, but playing devil's advocate... one can argue that if Joe Dumars can make the HOF with a 16ppg, 4asts, and 2 reb career averages, then why not a guy like Manu or Parker?

All 3 played in the shadows of a superstar and delivered in crunchtime.

Because Joe D played at a high level on BOTH sides of the ball consistently. Just ask MJ.

JayTheClown
07-19-2011, 05:24 PM
If Parker makes a few more all star games from here on out, than yeah maybe.
As for Bowen, I hope not. I hope the Basketball Hall of Fame is not that easy to get into.

frodo
07-19-2011, 05:31 PM
If Parker makes a few more all star games from here on out, than yeah maybe.
As for Bowen, I hope not. I hope the Basketball Hall of Fame is not that easy to get into.

spurs won 3 titles in the time span of 5 years with bowen, while the spurs have run trophyless for years since they lost this nigga. spurs finished as da #1 seed last season but got curbstomped by grizz in the first round b/c they had no nigga to stop rudy gay or Z-bo. fans always tend to overlook or underestimate the impacts of a defensive specialist imho

JayTheClown
07-19-2011, 05:38 PM
spurs won 3 titles in the time span of 5 years with bowen, while the spurs have run trophyless for years since they lost this nigga. spurs finished as da #1 seed last season but got curbstomped by grizz in the first round b/c they had no nigga to stop rudy gay or Z-bo. fans always tend to overlook or underestimate the impacts of a defensive specialist imho

So a defensive specialists with no all star game appearances and no DPOY award to his name should go to the hall of fame? Rodman had 2 DPOY and was the greatest rebounder of all time. Bowen wasn't "great" at any statistic. Joe Dumars (who didn't have a DPOY) could have been considered a defensive specialist, I guess, but Dumars was also not a one dimensional player like Bowen was.

Dunc n Dave
07-19-2011, 05:38 PM
spurs won 3 titles in the time span of 5 years with bowen, while the spurs have run trophyless for years since they lost this nigga. spurs finished as da #1 seed last season but got curbstomped by grizz in the first round b/c they had no nigga to stop rudy gay or Z-bo. fans always tend to overlook or underestimate the impacts of a defensive specialist imho

Yeah, cuz it was hard to stop Rudy Gay from lookin fly in his suit on the bench. Watch the games much?:rolleyes

DMC
07-19-2011, 06:00 PM
spurs won 3 titles in the time span of 5 years with bowen, while the spurs have run trophyless for years since they lost this nigga. spurs finished as da #1 seed last season but got curbstomped by grizz in the first round b/c they had no nigga to stop rudy gay or Z-bo. fans always tend to overlook or underestimate the impacts of a defensive specialist imho
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/22/grizzlies-rudy-gay-out-for-season-needs-shoulder-surgery/


lol chinaman he say Rudy Gay

ChumpDumper
07-19-2011, 06:33 PM
What makes TP a HOFer? This is a joke, right?Please name all the foreign starting PGs in the NBA before Parker.

Now name all of those who have won a finals MVP.

Maybe not probable, but certainly possible. I agree more French success in FIBA would help.

Proxy
07-19-2011, 06:48 PM
Like I said, Parker is not a HOF'er, but playing devil's advocate... one can argue that if Joe Dumars can make the HOF with a 16ppg, 4asts, and 2 reb career averages, then why not a guy like Manu or Parker?

All 3 played in the shadows of a superstar and delivered in crunchtime.

Manu will make it... so don't group him with TP.

If TP retired right now, there's no way he should make it.

Bowen should get his number retired in SA, but HOF isn't in the observable realm of possibilities for him.

Axe Murderer
07-19-2011, 07:13 PM
Like I said, Parker is not a HOF'er, but playing devil's advocate... one can argue that if Joe Dumars can make the HOF with a 16ppg, 4asts, and 2 reb career averages, then why not a guy like Manu or Parker?


of course you can argue that, but that's just one of the rare times that a 16 ppg stat would cut it.

tbh KC Jones made the Hall as a player with incredible averages of 7.4 ppg 4.3 asts 3.5 rpg. If that was the gold standard than 70% of the guys who ever played in the NBA would get in

dirk4mvp
07-19-2011, 07:28 PM
UMP, calling his own plays and driving down the field.

ambchang
07-20-2011, 09:27 AM
Parker is a borderline. If he accomplished the same on the Lakers or the Celtics, then yes (see 3rd bananas like Parish and Worthy), but since he played for the Spurs, no.

Bowen is a role player, he would have to 8-peat in the 60's and be white to make the hall.

Muser
07-20-2011, 09:30 AM
Like I said, Parker is not a HOF'er, but playing devil's advocate... one can argue that if Joe Dumars can make the HOF with a 16ppg, 4asts, and 2 reb career averages, then why not a guy like Manu or Parker?

All 3 played in the shadows of a superstar and delivered in crunchtime.

When parker becomes a GM and builds a team without any stars and wins a title then sure.

Leetonidas
07-20-2011, 11:21 AM
Exactly. Homerism at it's best, tbh.

He's saying TP is a HOFer to discredit Duncan you dumbfuck