View Full Version : Are relationships where the woman is the breadwinner doomed to fail?
Wilford Brimley
07-21-2011, 12:48 PM
Both from personal experience as well as witnessing other such relationships, it certainly seems to be the case. I think it stems from insecurity, but women also don't hide the fact when they make more money. It just sets up a contentious atmosphere, be it immediately, or several years down the road.
Anybody in such a relationship now? If so your input would be appreciated.
GoodOdor
07-21-2011, 12:49 PM
crolf house husband.
The woman is probably banging her boss anyway while the cuckold husband is raising the child at home.
coyotes_geek
07-21-2011, 12:49 PM
Only if the man is insecure about it.
I. Hustle
07-21-2011, 12:54 PM
It's alright as long as the man is getting a degree in psychology and they are supporting his cousin and the cousin's STD infested girlfriend.
thispego
07-21-2011, 12:59 PM
:lmao
how does my girls' family being rich mean she's going to make more money than me? She won't see that money til both her parents die. Until then, we'll just enjoy extravagant and numerous vacations and holidays. I.hustle, sisk, and soul patch are all kinds of jealous :lmao
GoodOdor
07-21-2011, 01:07 PM
I was debating my buddy the other day, what's more useless, a degree in psychology or one in philosophy?
I think both are very shitty degrees, but imo philosophy gotta take the cake, no?
ChumpDumper
07-21-2011, 01:08 PM
Folks really like being up in posters' personal lives here.
I. Hustle
07-21-2011, 01:09 PM
:lmao
how does my girls' family being rich mean she's going to make more money than me? She won't see that money til both her parents die. Until then, we'll just enjoy extravagant and numerous vacations and holidays. I.hustle, sisk, and soul patch are all kinds of jealous :lmao
What are you talking about? I said it was cool. Damn dude, I didn't mean to offend you.
GoodOdor
07-21-2011, 01:12 PM
Folks really like being up in posters' personal lives here.
ChumpDumper.
Drachen
07-21-2011, 01:12 PM
I was debating my buddy the other day, what's more useless, a degree in psychology or one in philosophy?
I think both are very shitty degrees, but imo philosophy gotta take the cake, no?
I had to take a Business Ethics class in the fall for my grad program. It was taught by a Philosophy PHD who said that Enron was a godsend for a large amount of people with philosophy degrees. The only person I know on a personal basis with a bachelors in philosophy is making 6 figs at netco title. LOL
GoodOdor
07-21-2011, 01:14 PM
I had to take a Business Ethics class in the fall for my grad program. It was taught by a Philosophy PHD who said that Enron was a godsend for a large amount of people with philosophy degrees. The only person I know on a personal basis with a bachelors in philosophy is making 6 figs at netco title. LOL
I guess even a psychology degree will let you continue into some type of MBA program or law, but by itself, what can you honestly do with such a shitty degree tbh?
I. Hustle
07-21-2011, 01:17 PM
Folks really like being up in posters' personal lives here.
HHHHMMMMMM I wonder how we find out personal shit about each other.
Viva Las Espuelas
07-21-2011, 01:19 PM
Both from personal experience as well as witnessing other such relationships, it certainly seems to be the case. I think it stems from insecurity, but women also don't hide the fact when they make more money. It just sets up a contentious atmosphere, be it immediately, or several years down the road.
Anybody in such a relationship now? If so your input would be appreciated.
I guess you're not strong on plow.
redzero
07-21-2011, 01:21 PM
Where's Anton Chigurh when you need him?
ChumpDumper
07-21-2011, 01:21 PM
HHHHMMMMMM I wonder how we find out personal shit about each other.I wonder why people make threads devoted to it.
thispego
07-21-2011, 01:21 PM
I was debating my buddy the other day, what's more useless, a degree in psychology or one in philosophy?
I think both are very shitty degrees, but imo philosophy gotta take the cake, no?
psychology degree sucks if you dont want to be in psychology or some kind of social services. But no degree is really 'worthless'
To veer away from the personal life trolling..
It is destined to fail. That woman will have no guilt in banging other men. Imagine being in a social gathering and hearing your husband answer people with "Im a houseband". She will be scooped up by any half decent horny guy easily.
I. Hustle
07-21-2011, 01:31 PM
I wonder why people make threads devoted to it.
Is that what this thread is about? I thought I just threw in a jab at Pegs. I didn't know the thread was devoted to his situation.
I. Hustle
07-21-2011, 01:32 PM
To veer away from the personal life trolling..
It is destined to fail. That woman will have no guilt in banging other men. Imagine being in a social gathering and hearing your husband answer people with "Im a houseband". She will be scooped up by any half decent horny guy easily.
So you are saying that husbands that are the breadwinners are cheating left and right?
Wilford Brimley
07-21-2011, 01:34 PM
Good post, pawe.
Insecurity is a huge issue with such relationships, but women must also shoulder some blame as well. When a man makes less than the girl he'll almost always feel inadequate. If she makes more, you can best believe her family and friends know about it. You'd be hard-pressed to find a father who wants his daughter supporting the husband. The guy's own insecurity will have him take on more than one job, just to make more than her. This leads to less time spent with the family and a strained relationship.
I've yet to see a happy and sustained couple who operate under the woman>man salary criterion.
jack sommerset
07-21-2011, 01:34 PM
Yes they are.
thispego
07-21-2011, 01:36 PM
What are you talking about? I said it was cool. Damn dude, I didn't mean to offend you.
Is that what this thread is about? I thought I just threw in a jab at Pegs.
why you a liar bro?
I. Hustle
07-21-2011, 01:40 PM
why you a liar bro?
How did you see through the façade?!
Wilford Brimley
07-21-2011, 01:45 PM
I guess you're not strong on plow.
I was a farmhand on my uncle's ranch in the early 60's, but my father uprooted us to the city and I never worked the soil again.
Booharv
07-21-2011, 01:47 PM
I was debating my buddy the other day, what's more useless, a degree in psychology or one in philosophy?
I think both are very shitty degrees, but imo philosophy gotta take the cake, no?
tbh 9 out of 10 hot undergrad girls were majoring in psychology when I was in college. I would bet that has to be the #1 major of women overall as well.
GoodOdor
07-21-2011, 01:48 PM
tbh 9 out of 10 hot undergrad girls were majoring in psychology when I was in college. I would bet that has to be the #1 major of women overall as well.
Makes sense, if you're a hot girl you don't really need a useful degree.
Halberto
07-21-2011, 01:53 PM
Obviously this is something that has to do with each individual's personality. To give a very broad answer, if the woman has ever talked down to the man or has shown eagerness to control things then the answer is clear. Time to find another woman.
Tbh most relationships are destined to fail anyway. Especially the ones that don't have any bread being won at all. :depressed
But like all non-traditional stuff, be prepared to face hate. I don't think the insecurity issue would be the driving factor in breaking up the OP's scenario and there's gotta be some success stories in there somewhere. Some guys are just too lazy for the professional world especially the younger ones. Some women don't want to handle domestic duties especially the breadwinners. Yada, yada.
CouchPotato
07-21-2011, 02:03 PM
I ain't go no problem with the old lady working two jobs so we can eat. She knows if she ain't workin' I'm leavin'.
So you are saying that husbands that are the breadwinners are cheating left and right?
No.
Well, if the man is capable of getting a job but chose to be a bum then yes, the wife will have no problem fucking other men.
But, if the man losses his job because of health problems, layoff or an agreement between spouses that the woman can earn more at her job and the man will just take care of the children to save on childcare then I think the respect will still be there.
Isitjustme?
07-21-2011, 03:01 PM
Tbh most relationships are destined to fail anyway. Especially the ones that don't have any bread being won at all. :depressed
tbh this is a bland point but its right on the money. The old days of people regularly marrying at an early age and staying married for the rest of their life are long over. Old farts that are married at this point for like 50+ years etc. went through a lot of rough patches that people nowadays would just get divorced over.
lil'mo
07-21-2011, 03:10 PM
anything i want scrah, honestly i'd go for a phd but they dont have the program available at tech that i would want. If i wanted to wait that is an option, but i might as well take what is available right now then later on down the road I could get my phd. Thanks for your genuine concern scro :tu
SnakeBoy
07-21-2011, 03:15 PM
Both from personal experience as well as witnessing other such relationships, it certainly seems to be the case. I think it stems from insecurity, but women also don't hide the fact when they make more money. It just sets up a contentious atmosphere, be it immediately, or several years down the road.
Anybody in such a relationship now? If so your input would be appreciated.
I married up 14 years ago, it's not a problem. Money just isn't an issue when you have plenty of it.
Probably more of an issue for the broke ass dudes posting on this thread who can only feel like a man by having a woman who is more broke than them.
JoeChalupa
07-21-2011, 03:44 PM
My parents will celebrate their 60th wedding anniversary later this year. The wife and I will celebrate 17 yrs together as well. IMO, if a couple is fighting and breaking up over money they have deeper problems.
mrsmaalox
07-21-2011, 03:58 PM
Any relationship is doomed to fail if either partner has a significant insecurity about any aspect of the relationship.
SourCandy
07-21-2011, 04:02 PM
No. I wouldn't care who makes the money so long as some one makes it.
psychology degree sucks if you dont want to be in psychology or some kind of social services. But no degree is really 'worthless'
True, some are less than worthless. Some cost you a shitload of money that you can never repay.
If my wife made more than me, that would be great as long as it was her increase, not my decrease.
Now if I didn't have a job at all, that would suck. I've only been without a job once since HS and only for 3 months then. It's uncomfortable and you learn quickly that no one can hang out 1pm on Tuesday.
DUNCANownsKOBE
07-21-2011, 05:51 PM
tbh 9 out of 10 hot undergrad girls were majoring in psychology when I was in college. I would bet that has to be the #1 major of women overall as well.
Girls majoring in stuff like psychology and sociology are in school to find a husband who can takeover daddy's financial responsibilities down the road.
SnakeBoy
07-21-2011, 05:59 PM
Now if I didn't have a job at all, that would suck. I've only been without a job once since HS and only for 3 months then. It's uncomfortable and you learn quickly that no one can hang out 1pm on Tuesday.
I haven't worked much for over a year, just some short contract jobs, so we could do some traveling. Been doing some diy home remodeling in between vacations. It's not too bad if you keep busy but you're right that it sucks that everyone else can't do anything. The worst thing though is losing the "I'm too busy with work" excuse to get out of doing things you don't want to do.
DUNCANownsKOBE
07-21-2011, 06:18 PM
ok if you wanna play semantics, the vast majority of girls doing that are really in school to find a husband.
You pointed out one female example, then for some reason told me about a man who makes money in psychology as if it's relevant to what I said.
Sociology is way worse than psychology tho, one of the most useless majors I've ever seen.
SnakeBoy
07-21-2011, 06:34 PM
My girlfriend in college was a sociology major. She wasn't going to school to look for a husband. She just wanted a degree and was smart enough to know she couldn't pass anything that required much math or chemistry.
Nathan Explosion
07-21-2011, 07:37 PM
Sociology is basically for social workers and the like. Nothing wrong with that, especially if you get paid enough not to worry about money.
As for me, if I was with a girl that made more money than me, I wouldn't care. I wouldn't mind a sugar momma. But, I would work too in some form or fashion. If she wanted me at home doing things around the house, I wouldn't have a problem with that. Hell, I'd learn a lot of handy man stuff so I could make home improvements with the time I had. I'm up for learning anything except tile work. I just wouldn't fuck with that.
But I would make sure it is understood that I'm at home not because I'm lazy, but because it was an agreed upon situation by both parties. The moment she were to start saying I was lazy, I'd make it very clear that I worked my ass off before I met her, and if she got tired of me being home, I'd be more than happy to get another job and start working again.
Hell, if I won the lottery, I'd take a few years off to do things, but I'd eventually go back to work because that's just the way I am.
DUNCANownsKOBE
07-21-2011, 07:44 PM
My girlfriend in college was a sociology major. She wasn't going to school to look for a husband. She just wanted a degree and was smart enough to know she couldn't pass anything that required much math or chemistry.
She was smart enough to know she was stupid? :lol
Nathan Explosion
07-21-2011, 07:56 PM
She was smart enough to know she was stupid? :lol
I know you meant that as a joke, but it is something. Some people don't ever realize their limitations and just keep banging their heads against the wall. At least his girl knew her limitations and worked around them.
Drachen
07-21-2011, 08:26 PM
Sociology is basically for social workers and the like. Nothing wrong with that, especially if you get paid enough not to worry about money.
As for me, if I was with a girl that made more money than me, I wouldn't care. I wouldn't mind a sugar momma. But, I would work too in some form or fashion. If she wanted me at home doing things around the house, I wouldn't have a problem with that. Hell, I'd learn a lot of handy man stuff so I could make home improvements with the time I had. I'm up for learning anything except tile work. I just wouldn't fuck with that.
But I would make sure it is understood that I'm at home not because I'm lazy, but because it was an agreed upon situation by both parties. The moment she were to start saying I was lazy, I'd make it very clear that I worked my ass off before I met her, and if she got tired of me being home, I'd be more than happy to get another job and start working again.
Hell, if I won the lottery, I'd take a few years off to do things, but I'd eventually go back to work because that's just the way I am.
First thing I did after buying my house was to tile the laundry room. No experience. Its really not hard. I just found some instructions on the internet.
Redoing my cabinets on the other hand ......
Frenzy
07-21-2011, 08:41 PM
First thing I did after buying my house was to tile the laundry room. No experience. Its really not hard. I just found some instructions on the internet.
Redoing my cabinets on the other hand ......
First thing I did after buying my house was redo my cabinets. No experience. Its really not hard. I just found some instructions on the internet.
Creepn
07-21-2011, 08:54 PM
No. I wouldn't care who makes the money so long as some one makes it.
So what's up then? :eyebrows
lol wanting a girl to accept you because you're a minimum wage making broke ass chump. :lol
I know you meant that as a joke, but it is something. Some people don't ever realize their limitations and just keep banging their heads against the wall. At least his girl knew her limitations and worked around them.
Working around them means saving the money, not spending it anyhow and getting a shit degree.
"Oh I know my limitations, so I didn't buy 500 crates of floor tile because I cannot install them. I bought 500 crates of plastic spoons"
Drachen
07-21-2011, 09:27 PM
First thing I did after buying my house was redo my cabinets. No experience. Its really not hard. I just found some instructions on the internet.
I agree that it is a simple task, but sanding them is a pain in the ass.
GoodOdor
07-21-2011, 09:52 PM
shut your ###### ass up, i make more than you and i'm still wrapping up my undergrad. i'll have a nice position waiting for me the day i graduate. i'm young, successful, and have a lot more going on than you :lol
Sons the minority card alone will get you somewhere.
MannyIsGod
07-21-2011, 11:04 PM
Neither psychology or sociology are shitty degrees on their own. Its the fact that so many people get them with no real plan or an idea of what they really want to do with them. No degree is good if you don't know what you want to do with it.
That being said, people who are willing to go to grad school and do appropriate work with those degrees like Ashbeigh and Pego are making use of them and the degree is certainly not worthless to them.
On the whole, I do tend to question someone getting a psychology degree. One of the people I hired to work at the office I worked at recently was a girl with a degree in psychology. She thought she was hot shit and yet the only job she could get was working front desk for a small optometry practice. She had the nerve to ask for a raise after a few weeks based on her degree. Needless to say, she didn't last long. People like that with psychology degrees are pretty insane.
Creepn
07-22-2011, 12:06 AM
shut your ###### ass up, i make more than you and i'm still wrapping up my undergrad. i'll have a nice position waiting for me the day i graduate. i'm young, successful, and have a lot more going on than you :lol
How are you gonna call me a ###### when you worship the black cock chump? You base your whole "e-thug" personality on trying to be a hardcore black guy. You troll under a black NBA player and you got an avatar of a black guy as an attempt to make us think you are "gangsta". LMAO!!
All I see you doing with your life is trying to be a race you wish to be on an online forum and guess what bitch? YOU AREN'T ACCEPTED. Now you say you Indian? Go find yourself a geronimo avatar and be proud of your shit dumbass.
Nathan Explosion
07-22-2011, 12:51 AM
I agree that it is a simple task, but sanding them is a pain in the ass.
I've seen people re-tile whole bathrooms (when I live with my grandparents, our bathroom was remodeled) and it doesn't look like fun. I just wouldn't want to have to cut, measure and sand the whole thing. In high school I did a lot of work with saws and wood (not in wood shop though) so I have no problem with that. Just don't want to fuck with tiles though. I'll learn and mess with wiring too.
SnakeBoy
07-22-2011, 01:00 AM
Working around them means saving the money, not spending it anyhow and getting a shit degree.
She didn't spend her money on a shit degree, she spent her parents money on a shit degree. Then she used that shit degree to get an entry level management job that just required a bachelors degree and worked up from there. Last time I talked to her she was doing quite well. Knowing your limitations is a sign of intelliegence not stupidity.
Tinystarz
07-22-2011, 01:13 AM
:lol @ insecure males
Axe Murderer
07-22-2011, 02:04 AM
not an f'in dime Tyson, not an f'in dime!!!!!
uh, uh
Creepn
07-22-2011, 02:58 AM
###### i worship shit, except the big man upstairs. i guess you didn't know, there's a difference between a nigga and a straight n!gger. the niggas i hang with on the block are all cool as fuck, none of them would ever dream of doing weiner exercises to make up for their lack of manhood. what kind of self respecting black man does that shit? and who cares if tyson chandler is black..tyson is a cool nigga and a G like myself. gangsta doesn't know colors or race boundaries, everyone knows a real G when they set eyes on one. and bitch you ain't shit but a sucka ass with a scrawny little weiner.
LMAO You are NOT a fucking "G" you moron! You are just some young punk ass kid trying to impersonate an e-gangsta life on a forum. Pathetic. Did the troll overtake you to the point that you forgot who you really are?
By the way, lay off my dick geez. You are a little excessive there chump. And don't swear that you know I got a big dick because it could be assumed that I let your gay ass check out my junk.
Creepn
07-22-2011, 03:14 AM
the niggas i hang with on the block are all cool as fuck.
:lmao
LMAO! I'm sorry. I just had to double post. I just cannot stop laughing at that sentence. :lol You stay on the "block" so you can hear your momma call you in for dinner time huh?
On a serious note, you live in Dallas no? I used to live there and frequented the surrounding area of Dallas, especially south of Dallas. Where is this "block" you reside at chump?
rascal
07-22-2011, 06:03 AM
Engineering degrees can also be worthless. I have a worthless engineering degree from UTSA.
Cupid
07-22-2011, 07:39 AM
All this attention to money has made my work harder the past few decades. I remember a time when people actually fell in love with each other...and not earning potential. :(
MannyIsGod
07-22-2011, 08:26 AM
Engineering degrees can also be worthless. I have a worthless engineering degree from UTSA.
Why do you think its worthless?
Drachen
07-22-2011, 09:41 AM
Why do you think its worthless?
my question too. UTSA's Business and Engineering schools are pretty well respected.
I. Hustle
07-22-2011, 10:50 AM
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MannyIsGod
07-22-2011, 11:07 AM
my question too. UTSA's Business and Engineering schools are pretty well respected.
I have a friend who got a civil engineering degree from there. I'm not sure how good the school is but its still an engineering degree and I'm sure UTSA has a reputable degree plan.
Soul_Patch
07-22-2011, 12:51 PM
Was this all a thinly veiled jab at Pego making minimum wage? If so i approve! :lol
Btw, my wife makes slightly more money than i do...i think its less than 2k, AND she has a degree in psychology...that must mean i am an absolute loser! :depressed
Soul_Patch
07-22-2011, 12:55 PM
xOI2GGY1SeE
Haha...that dude had me rolling.
"I put the H on it, for emphasis!" rofl...wtf...
Blake
07-22-2011, 02:55 PM
gangsta doesn't know colors or race boundaries, everyone knows a real G when they set eyes on one.
will this be something you put on your resume after you get your accounting degree?
Blake
07-22-2011, 02:59 PM
what kind of place hires an accountant that everyone knows is a real G?
honest question, to be honest
Creepn
07-22-2011, 03:12 PM
u double post because you're a sucker ass bitch who just got told, let's get that straight. yeah the block, south oak cliff, SOC nigga, i know a dallas nigga done heard of that shit. come on down and get beat the fuck up if you doubt it, us 44 oakland jungle guerilla bloods bar NONE.
:rolleyes Nice mansions over there. Get the fuck out of here with that Oak cliff shit. I didn't see any Blood territory markings over there. The one you sprayed on your mom's back fence doesn't count chump. Or should I say slob?
GoodOdor
07-22-2011, 04:12 PM
My brother DoK will be hard pressed to find a job if potential employers started reviewing his posting histroy tbh. He is not very fond of the blacks.
Drachen
07-22-2011, 04:14 PM
It will be very easy to figure out who he is, I mean how many jewish accountants are there?
Creepn
07-22-2011, 04:30 PM
I doubt he'll be easy to find. He sits at home all day on the computer trying to cyber tag the internet.
Btw, what street does the 44 OGB slang on hmm? You should know this, you practically live on the block.
rascal
07-22-2011, 04:43 PM
I have a friend who got a civil engineering degree from there. I'm not sure how good the school is but its still an engineering degree and I'm sure UTSA has a reputable degree plan.
I got out ill prepared to get a good engineering job from that school.
rascal
07-22-2011, 04:46 PM
my question too. UTSA's Business and Engineering schools are pretty well respected.
Lots of weak foreign teachers because they lagged salary wise as compared to other schools.
SnakeBoy
07-22-2011, 04:46 PM
I got out ill prepared to get a good engineering job from that school.
Didn't study but still got passed?
GoodOdor
07-22-2011, 04:51 PM
Come on guys....its UTSA, which employer is gonna look at his resume and think "oh shit, a utsa grad???!!! sign him right the fuck up!".
lol utsa.
Oneton
07-22-2011, 04:56 PM
So let me get this straight you are in the Oakland bloods... of Dallas.
That's the thing with all these dumb ass "blood" and "crip" gangs. They see this shit in movies and TV and take the whole name straight from some California gang. A bunch of bitch ass wannabes who can't think for themselves.
Oneton
07-22-2011, 04:56 PM
that's blood knowledge homie... That i can't find on google
fify
rascal
07-22-2011, 05:40 PM
Didn't study but still got passed?
I am not smart enough to pass without studying. Those guys did well when they got out because they were naturals.
Come on guys....its UTSA, which employer is gonna look at his resume and think "oh shit, a utsa grad???!!! sign him right the fuck up!".
None. They will look at his non-related work experience and the degree will just fill a prerequisite in the place of related work experience. Internship will be the key.
HR uses filters to select interview candidates, and the degree and/or experience gets you through that portion of the filter. Key words do the rest if you know how to tailor your resume for the job you in which you are applying.
So don't sweat the school name as much as your work history.
lol utsa.Most people who make those kinds of comments don't have any degree. They might be in a program, but they aren't in the professional workforce. There are always a few exceptions.
MannyIsGod
07-22-2011, 05:49 PM
I am not smart enough to pass without studying. Those guys did well when they got out because they were naturals.
Any internships? Internships are really what you need to get out into the workplace ready to go. Applicable "real world" classes can help in niche areas but you need interships and the like to learn how to use your skills in an actual job.
What brand of spray paint do the 747 True Bloods use?
huh?
Exactly.
rascal
07-22-2011, 05:51 PM
Most attractive women will not marry a man who makes considerable less money than they do.
Why should they? If they are attractive they will have enough suitors and will usually choose the guy with the higher earning power.
Most attractive women will not marry a man who makes considerable less money than they do.
Why should they? If they are attractive they will have enough suitors and will usually choose the guy with the higher earning power.
No shit. Most attractive women in free countries won't be working at all.
rascal
07-22-2011, 05:57 PM
None. They will look at his non-related work experience and the degree will just fill a prerequisite in the place of related work experience. Internship will be the key.
HR uses filters to select interview candidates, and the degree and/or experience gets you through that portion of the filter. Key words do the rest if you know how to tailor your resume for the job you in which you are applying.
So don't sweat the school name as much as your work history.
Most people who make those kinds of comments don't have any degree. They might be in a program, but they aren't in the professional workforce. There are always a few exceptions.
Thats the problem. My prior work experience was as a technician and that is where I always got sloted, never given a shot at learning any engineering.
rascal
07-22-2011, 06:08 PM
Any internships? Internships are really what you need to get out into the workplace ready to go. Applicable "real world" classes can help in niche areas but you need interships and the like to learn how to use your skills in an actual job.
My grades were too low to get any internships, had to have a 3.0. I flunked out of UTSA after two years then went back 15 years later put more effort into it and got the engineering degree. I carried too many bad grades from the first couple of years and finished with a GPA just below 3.0. Little opportunities for me with that low of a GPA.
It is/was a worthless degree.
Drachen
07-22-2011, 09:48 PM
My grades were too low to get any internships, had to have a 3.0. I flunked out of UTSA after two years then went back 15 years later put more effort into it and got the engineering degree. I carried too many bad grades from the first couple of years and finished with a GPA just below 3.0. Little opportunities for me with that low of a GPA.
It is/was a worthless degree.
Perhaps you should clarify, the reason that it is a worthless degree is because of your effort. Nothing to do with the school.
Thats the problem. My prior work experience was as a technician and that is where I always got sloted, never given a shot at learning any engineering.
But you have prior work experience in a professional environment.
What did you work with, what technologies? Former techs make great engineers.
My grades were too low to get any internships, had to have a 3.0. I flunked out of UTSA after two years then went back 15 years later put more effort into it and got the engineering degree. I carried too many bad grades from the first couple of years and finished with a GPA just below 3.0. Little opportunities for me with that low of a GPA.
It is/was a worthless degree.
If you got an EE, you just have to find work now. If you went for BSEET, not sure what UTSA offers, then you will still be a technician most likely, but there are some field service jobs that allow you to bootstrap into an engineering role. It's up to you. With your attitude, it seems you've given up before you've gotten started. As a hiring manager, I wouldn't want to take on someone who was going to sell the farm at the first sign of drought.
rascal
07-23-2011, 04:35 PM
Perhaps you should clarify, the reason that it is a worthless degree is because of your effort. Nothing to do with the school.
I should have never gotten out with a degree in BSEE. The degree is worthless when you enter the workforce ill prepared to do well. Thats on the school.
I have been out since 1997. Owe student loans and getting paid like a high school grad.
rascal
07-23-2011, 04:38 PM
If you got an EE, you just have to find work now. If you went for BSEET, not sure what UTSA offers, then you will still be a technician most likely, but there are some field service jobs that allow you to bootstrap into an engineering role. It's up to you. With your attitude, it seems you've given up before you've gotten started. As a hiring manager, I wouldn't want to take on someone who was going to sell the farm at the first sign of drought.
I have given up on ever getting into engineering now. I barely make enough to pay bills and live paycheck to paycheck.
I would never advise anyone to get an engineering degree from UTSA.
rascal
07-23-2011, 04:47 PM
Perhaps you should clarify, the reason that it is a worthless degree is because of your effort. Nothing to do with the school.
What I am saying is you can come out of that school with a degree in BSEE and not be prepared to take on an engineering position. Especially in a slow economy where companies don't have to hire new grads and have to train them but can get experienced workers already with similar experience elsewhere.
Unless you come out of a top engineering school and UTSA is not one, you may have a hard time landing any engineering job.
Drachen
07-23-2011, 04:53 PM
I find it funny that now you are mad at UTSA, or any school for that matter, for the economy being slow.
rascal
07-23-2011, 04:55 PM
I find it funny that now you are mad at UTSA, or any school for that matter, for the economy being slow.
?
The economy now doesn't help new grads. I came out in 1997 with a better economy.
Drachen
07-23-2011, 04:57 PM
"especially in a slow economy "
Yes. Relationships are due to fail.
I have given up on ever getting into engineering now. I barely make enough to pay bills and live paycheck to paycheck.
I would never advise anyone to get an engineering degree from UTSA.
Are you trolling?
Living paycheck to paycheck is not an indication of your income level, it could be your expenses are too high.
Even a mid grade technician in some high tech industries make 65-75K a year with bonuses, overtime and shift premium.
SnakeBoy
07-23-2011, 06:16 PM
I have given up on ever getting into engineering now. I barely make enough to pay bills and live paycheck to paycheck.
I would never advise anyone to get an engineering degree from UTSA.
What type of work do you do now?
What I am saying is you can come out of that school with a degree in BSEE and not be prepared to take on an engineering position. Especially in a slow economy where companies don't have to hire new grads and have to train them but can get experienced workers already with similar experience elsewhere.
Unless you come out of a top engineering school and UTSA is not one, you may have a hard time landing any engineering job.
I see a problem already. You don't get a degree in BSEE. You get a BS degree in EE. (being pedantic).
If you worked as a technician for years, you should be able to apply for an engineering role with the company you work for, since you likely now have the required degree. Your other choice would be to move into entry level management for technicians, and eventually to equipment engineer.
If you cannot capitalize on a BSEE from a University of Texas engineering program, it's not the fault of the school. Your school has a job placement program. If you don't want to take a pay hit to move from mid/high level technician to entry level engineer, that's your problem. It has nothing to do with the school. No BS degree prepares anyone to enter the workforce without some OJT.
rascal
07-24-2011, 11:05 AM
Are you trolling?
Living paycheck to paycheck is not an indication of your income level, it could be your expenses are too high.
Even a mid grade technician in some high tech industries make 65-75K a year with bonuses, overtime and shift premium.
Try 32k a year with overtime.
Electronic technicians usually make from 30k to 42k a year. I don't know where you think they make up to 75k a year. They are a dime a dozen and usually only have a tech certificate or two year degree.
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