Hypothetical For You All

[Monostradamus]

Let's say Rory McIlroy wins The Masters. He wins by a healthy margin. However, his putting isn't always picture perfect. He has a few 3-putts, but in the end makes enough putts to WIN THE MASTERS.

Did Rory McIlroy putt well enough to win a championship? Would you therefore say he displayed championship level putting?

[DPG21920]

This is sad.

[Monostradamus]

:cry I have no rebuttal

[DPG21920]

Just ask the question direct for others to chime in:

Is Dirk a championship level defender (knowing the context of what that implies) and did HE play championship level defense individually?

[badfish22]

He sure shut down Pau.

[redzero]

He sure shut down Pau.

That wasn't particularly hard to do this post-season.

[Monostradamus]

Just ask the question direct for others to chime in:

Is Dirk a championship level defender (knowing the context of what that implies) and did HE play championship level defense individually?

As a Spurs fan I'm shocked you ask me this -

You were fooled....
Every time I dunked....
Dropped 30, 40....
It fooled you....
Cuz you believed that was about me....
While I believe...

It Takes Five.

But you're not a fool, are you?

[DPG21920]

So you have no rebuttal.

[Monostradamus]

Five

[DPG21920]

So are saying every member of every championship team did every aspect of the game at a championship level?

[Monostradamus]

All I'm saying is It Takes 5ive.

[Findog's Ex Fiancee]

lolololol Mono is such a faggot has-been

[Monostradamus]

lolololol Mono is such a faggot has-been

:lmao rememba det one time you "busted" TheMachine by getting his Accountant troll to admit he was talkin shit to 41? And then it turned out Accountant was my troll and I was playing you the entire time? :lmao

[Findog's Ex Fiancee]

lol thinking I wasn't trolling lolololol Dirk isn't a championship leader

[Wilford Brimley]

Who the fuck is Rory McIlroy?

[DAF86]

No, imho.

[Leetonidas]

Bruce Bowen played offense well enough in 2003 for the Spurs to win a championship. Bruce Bowen displayed championship level offense

[DPG21920]

Shaq displayed all time great free throw shooting since he is an all time great.

[DMC]

Let's say Rory McIlroy wins The Masters. He wins by a healthy margin. However, his putting isn't always picture perfect. He has a few 3-putts, but in the end makes enough putts to WIN THE MASTERS.

Did Rory McIlroy putt well enough to win a championship? Would you therefore say he displayed championship level putting?

Regardless of where you're going with it, no.

Championship level play doesn't necessarily win championships, and certain aspects of play can be at lower levels and other factors can propel an individual to a championship, not the least of those being the play of the opponents.

[DAF86]

Mono displays championship level hypotheticals.

[DMC]

He sure shut down Pau.
I think Shannon Brown did that.

[DPG21920]

How can one be too short to play basketball?

[DPG21920]

muggsy bogues says hi. Tyson, wrong again.

[DMC]

I'd say you have to at least be about 5'8 to be taken seriously as a basketball player, anything less and you're just a joke out there. Not really playing basketball, just kind of out there.

There are plenty over 6' who are not taken seriously as basketball players.

So... no.

[Monostradamus]

Bruce Bowen played offense well enough in 2003 for the Spurs to win a championship. Bruce Bowen displayed championship level offense

100% agreed. He absolutely did.

[DPG21920]

:lol

[Monostradamus]

Shaq displayed all time great free throw shooting since he is an all time great.

LOL fail. When discussing individual merits, you can be an all time great and still have deficiencies. What's being discussed is if you performed at a championship level or not.

Shaq is an all-time great. Shaq is a bad free throw shooter. BUT Shaq has displayed championship level free throw shooting.

Similarly, Dirk is an all time great. Dirk is not a good defender. BUT in 2011 Dirk played championship level defense.

[Monostradamus]

:lol

So you're saying Bruce Bowen is ringless because of his offensive ineptitude?

[DPG21920]

LOL Fail.

To be an all-time great do you need to be a great basketball player? Does basketball include free-throw shooting? Shaq is an all-time great ipso-facto Shaq is an all-time great free-throw shooter.

[DPG21920]

So you're saying Bruce Bowen is ringless because of his offensive ineptitude?

I'm saying he won titles despite his offensive liabilities individually. The team was good enough to overcome and he contributed overall. It's ok.

[Monostradamus]

LOL Fail.

To be an all-time great do you need to be a great basketball player? Does basketball include free-throw shooting? Shaq is an all-time great ipso-facto Shaq is an all-time great free-throw shooter.

Again, when dissecting an individual's game, it's natural to see areas of excellence vs. areas of deficiency. That's part of what makes individual players unique in various ways.

The point you keep gloriously missing, however, is that analyzing a champion is different than analyzing an all-time great. To play at a championship level requires but one thing - to compete while winning a championship. If you played, and you're the champ, then guess what? You played at a championship level. Again, it shouldn't be this hard.

[WeNeedLength]

What. The. Fuck. Dirk is not a good defender. How fucking hard is that to understand??

[Monostradamus]

I'm saying he won titles despite his offensive liabilities individually.

Did his offensive liabilities cause him to go ringless? yes or no?

[Monostradamus]

What. The. Fuck. Dirk is not a good defender. How fucking hard is that to understand??

Nobody's arguing that you dumb fuck. Dirk is not a good defender. Everybody knows that.

But Dirk played championship level defense in 2011. And there's nothing you can do about it.

[WeNeedLength]

Nobody's arguing that you dumb fuck. Dirk is not a good defender. Everybody knows that.

But Dirk played championship level defense in 2011. And there's nothing you can do about it.

As long as we're clear numbnuts. :lmao

You can call his shitty defense every adjective in the dictionary and it wouldn't change a thing. Proceed....

[DPG21920]

Again, when dissecting an individual's game, it's natural to see areas of excellence vs. areas of deficiency. That's part of what makes individual players unique in various ways.

The point you keep gloriously missing, however, is that analyzing a champion is different than analyzing an all-time great. To play at a championship level requires but one thing - to compete while winning a championship. If you played, and you're the champ, then guess what? You played at a championship level. Again, it shouldn't be this hard.

LOL Fail. The point you keep gloriously missing, however, is that what is implied by saying someone does something at a championship level is that they are elite in that regard. You can play defense at a championship level and still lose, because your offense isn't up to par or vice versa.

Just because you won a title, doesn't mean your team or the individuals within it all played championship level everything in the context of the word.

Again, it shouldn't be this hard.

[badfish22]

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[DAF86]

Bonner played championship level defense in 2007.

[badfish22]

DAF didn't post 50 times in a Dirk thread once in 05.

[Monostradamus]

what is implied

implications and reality can be very different things, it's time you learned that.

[DAF86]

I wasn't alive in 2005.

[Monostradamus]

Bonner played championship level defense in 2007.

I wouldn't know because I didn't see. If he played during the 07 Finals, then yes he did.

[Findog's Ex Fiancee]

CROFLMAO Mono's logic is fucking retarded lolol this faggot quits on his team and is looking for attention now with strawman arguments

[Monostradamus]

CROFLMAO Mono's logic is fucking retarded lolol this faggot quits on his team and is looking for attention now with strawman arguments

lol dunking on an 8 foot goal.

[DPG21920]

What does that video have to do with anything, BadFish? That would be like me making the argument Dirk is a choking loser and always has been in the playoffs until this year, then posting him missing those free throws against the Heat in the 05 finals. Does that make it right? Do you think that Dirk up until this year was a playoff choking loser?

[DPG21920]

Mono has jumped the shark and even his shitty analogy thread failed :lol

[Monostradamus]

As long as we're clear numbnuts. :lmao

You can call his shitty defense every adjective in the dictionary and it wouldn't change a thing. Proceed....

Dirk Played Championship Level Defense.

[Findog's Ex Fiancee]

lololol BadFag, Tyson Chandler and Mono all viewing thread, it's like a who's who of bad posters

[Monostradamus]

Dirk Played Championship Level Defense.

[DPG21920]

mugsy bogues was never really very good, and he's one guy out of millions of midgets like yourself.

So he wasn't in the NBA? I guess they just let anyone in the NBA. Earl Boykins must have been lost and wandered onto a bunch of teams as well.

[DPG21920]

Db.
Com

[DPG21920]

Nice troll job though :lol

I like this Whottt style of posting.

[DPG21920]

That doesn't make any sense. You want me to link where you make fun of people dying? Saying someone posts like Whottt is not a low blow at all.

Please stop spamming and talk basketball.

[DPG21920]

Quit being an idiot.

[DPG21920]

That is just as bad of a reach as this thread by Mono. Whottt was known for arguing his positions, even when wrong epically. That isn't disrespectful to say such. It's why many liked Whottt.

[Monostradamus]

lol angry pm's sent to me.

[DPG21920]

Saying the dead man was always wrong and just didn't know when to quit. Disrespectful. Whottt was also right sometimes too, you know. Fucking ass.

Please link to where I said he was always wrong. If those exact words weren't said, then you agree to never post here again under the Tyson screen name with which you wrote this ^

[DPG21920]

You realize no one on here likes you? I know I joke around and mock you, but when you act like you do above, it's really sad and shows that you are truly a troubled person.

[DPG21920]

Your intention is to be a sad person?

[DPG21920]

Ok.