UFC 139: Shogun vs. Henderson Nov 19, 2011 Fight Thread

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MAIN CARD (Pay-per-view)

Dan Henderson vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua
Cung Le vs. Wanderlei Silva
Brian Bowles vs. Urijah Faber
Martin Kampmann vs. Rick Story
Stephan Bonnar vs. Kyle Kingsbury

PRELIMINARY CARD (Spike TV)

Ryan Bader vs. Jason Brilz
Michael McDonald vs. Alex Soto

PRELIMINARY CARD (Facebook)

Tom Lawlor vs. Chris Weidman
Nick Pace vs. Miguel Torres
Rafael dos Anjos vs. Gleison Tibau
Seth Baczynski vs. Matt Brown
Shamar Bailey vs. Danny Castillo



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UFC 138 although not officially announced will the collision of two Heavyweights: Cain Velasquez vs Junior Dos Santos. Today another fight was announced:

UFC 138 Fight Card Adds Chris Weidman vs. Tom Lawlor http://ht.ly/5GjU3 #UFC @ChrisWeidmanUFC @FilthyTomLawlor

[strosFan2]

Michihiro Omigawa vs. Jason Young added to UFC 138 in England http://bit.ly/pcWiuU

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This is now UFC 139 since the UFC created the event in England which is now UFC 138.

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

if jr. is all lean and fast like he looked against carwin then cain is gonna have some probs

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Urijah Faber vs. Brian Bowles Verbally Agreed to for UFC 139 http://sbn.to/pCwmP8

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[The TroutBum]

I can't believe I'll be rooting for a Brazilian.

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Brazilian Lightweights Tibau, Dos Anjos on Tap for UFC 139 bit.ly/qRTezl

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Brazilian-Lightweights-Tibau-Dos-Anjos-on-Tap-for-UFC-139-34825

[strosFan2]

Jon Fitch cleared to fight, sources say UFC 139 appearance possible bit.ly/qPzeNy

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Martin Kampmann vs. Rick Story on tap for UFC 139 in San Jose bit.ly/p33Ak5
http://mmajunkie.com/news/24852/martin-kampmann-vs-rick-story-on-top-for-ufc-139-in-san-jose.mma?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mmajunkie+%28MMAjunkie.com+Fe ed%29

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Josh Koscheck Returns at UFC 139, Possibly at Middleweight http://ht.ly/68QOv #MMA #UFC @JoshKoscheck #UFC139

Who do you think he will fight at 185, if true?

[dbreiden83080]

One name that pops to mind is a fight against former ‘Ultimate Fighter’ finalist Stephan Bonnar. Koscheck and Bonnar engaged in a war of words on Twitter and then through the legal system after Bonnar’s clothing line ‘Trash Talkin’ Kids’ made a shirt with Koscheck’s likeness on it.

Koscheck threatened legal action, and the two have been verbally sparring ever since. There is no word however at this time if Bonnar would consider or even could drop down to 185lbs for a possible fight with Koscheck.

I know they have been yammering at eachother lately but Bonnar is like 6'4 with a huge frame.. He'd have to cut off a leg to make 85 or be so drained from the cut he'd likely perform like shit.. Not sure what's a good fight for him if this is a weight class Kos wants to stay in.. Short Fuse Herman is a fight i like, he is coming off 2 good wins in a row.. Kos would not get a contender..

[strosFan2]

I really hope Bonnar gets a chance at Kos. I hate his cocky ass

[dbreiden83080]

I really hope Bonnar gets a chance at Kos. I hate his cocky ass

You think Bonnar can make 85? He's the same size as Forrest

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ESPN mentions Ed Herman, could just be name dropping or maybe they have some inside info

http://www.espn.co.uk/ufc/sport/story/107093.html

[dbreiden83080]

ESPN mentions Ed Herman, could just be name dropping or maybe they have some inside info

http://www.espn.co.uk/ufc/sport/story/107093.html

HA

I called it..


Short Fuse Herman is a fight i like, he is coming off 2 good wins in a row.. Kos would not get a contender..

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If that fight happens, I call Herman win by submission

[dbreiden83080]

Kos could keep it up and maybe outstrike Ed.. Wonder why Kos wants to fight at 85? Has he given up at WW?

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Yeah not sure, could be a 1 time thing, if he has someone in mind he wants to fight at 185, or he has given up at WW; he isn't a contender at 185

[Red Hawk #21]

I hope Hermann and Koscheck fight...and I hope Short Fuse kicks his ass. I Loathe Josh Koshcheck...

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Stephan Bonnar Gets Kyle Kingsbury at UFC 139 in San Jose http://ht.ly/6aY1d #MMA #UFC #UFC139

Also agreed to on that same fight card is a second light heavyweight showdown, this one between Jason "Hitman" Brilz and Ryan "Darth" Bader.

http://www.ufc.com/news/UFC-139-fight-card-updates?bvb

[dbreiden83080]

Obvious changes to come for this card..

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Vitor Belfort says he's fighting Cung Le at UFC 139 in San Jose


Another key Strikeforce star is heading to the UFC.

Vitor Belfort (20-9 MMA, UFC) announced on his official website that he's fighting former Strikeforce middleweight champion and noted kickboxer Cung Le (7-1 MMA, 0-0 UFC) at UFC 139 in San Jose, Calif.

On Friday sources close to the event told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) the bout was under consideration but that Le was still working on details for his UFC deal.

A deal apparently has been reached.

UFC 139 takes place Nov. 19 at the HP Pavilion in San Jose. With a heavyweight title fight between champ Cain Velasquez and Junior Santos moved from UFC 139 to UFC on FOX 1 – and given Le's massive following in San Jose – he and Belfort very likely could headline the pay-per-view show.

Le, 39, went 17-0 as a Sanshou kickboxer before moving to MMA in 2006. Le, who hasn't fought in 16 months while pursuing an acting career, has fought exclusively for Strikeforce, where he posted a 7-1 record (with seven knockout victories) with an array of flashy and highlight-reel wins. His only defeat during his run came to Scott Smith, who pulled off a stunning come-from-behind KO win in the final couple minutes of their December 2009 bout. However, Le avenged the defeat in his next bout with a KO set up by a spinning back kick.

Thanks heavily to Le, Strikeforce has drawn some massive crowds in San Jose, where the fighter has many Vietnamese fans. In fact, he was a part of both of the best-attended Strikeforce events in history. Both took place in San Jose.

He now meets 34-year-old Belfort, who recently rebounded from a vicious KO title loss to champ Anderson Silva with a dominant victory over Yoshihiro Akiyama at UFC 133. Belfort, who's now won six of his past seven fights, scored a "Knockout of the Night" award with the Akiyama victory. In fact, his past four victories (and nine of his past 10) have all come via knockout.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/25173/vitor-belfort-says-hes-fighting-cung-le-at-ufc-139-in-san-jose.mma?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mmajunkie+%28MMAjunkie.com+Fe ed%29

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Should be an easy victory for Belfort, but Le is a unorthodox striker with his kicks...

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Miguel Torres said on MMA Live tonight that he has been training for the past 3 weeks; he will fight on Nov 19, is just waiting for an opponent.

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Today: RT @nickpacemma: UFC 139 in Cali. Nick pace vs Miguel Torres. #HATERS

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Dan Henderson is returning to the Octagon versus Shogun Rua at UFC 139 on November 19

[CubanSucks]

Dan Henderson is returning to the Octagon versus Shogun Rua at UFC 139 on November 19

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helluva fight featuring one of my top 3 fighters

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according to this video, Hendo's contract is UFC exclusive, so he didn't get his wish to fight in both SF and UFC

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danawhite Dana White
Vitor is injured and out of San Jose fight. Now Cung Le will fight Wandy!

[polandprzem]

fuck

Vitor is injury prone


Wandy is more suitable opponent for Cung Le, Vitor would destry the guy

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sonnench chael sonnen
Hey Vitor, take my name out of your mouth until you show up for half as many fights as you pullout of.

[dbreiden83080]

Vitor needs to man up and fight through some of these things..

[dbreiden83080]

Wandy needs to hang it up already.. He's got a family and he's killing brain cells by the fight..

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UFC 139 presser today at 4 PM ET: http://www.youtube.com/ufc#p/l/1MkCM6dm1DE

Dana "hinted" at a possible Koscheck vs Fitch fight at UFC 139 during the presser

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First Promo for UFC 139

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MAIN CARD (Pay-per-view)

Dan Henderson vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua
Cung Le vs. Wanderlei Silva
Brian Bowles vs. Urijah Faber
Martin Kampmann vs. Rick Story
Stephan Bonnar vs. Kyle Kingsbury

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I think this is a GREAT card! Should be very exciting.

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[polandprzem]

U guys - pls change the title for this card!


Beyond awesome card. Interesting it's not so hyped. Myabe because there is no mega name on it, but every fights seems to have a great potential!

[dbreiden83080]

U guys - pls change the title for this card!


Done..

[dbreiden83080]

Dan Henderson vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua
Close fight to call. I'll take Shogun for 2 reasons. 1) He looks to have shaked off the rust in the Forrest fight. 2) Hendo loves to brawl and might not use his wrestling at all. Shogun has the more versatile stand-up. UD Shogun..

Cung Le vs. Wanderlei Silva
Love to see Wandy win but not gonna happen. Time to retire Wandy. It's just time.


Brian Bowles vs. Urijah Faber
Faber is the most over-rated over-hyped fighter in MMA. Bowles is under-rated and hungry as hell. Bowles by UD.


Martin Kampmann vs. Rick Story
Kampmann wins coming off the robbery in the Diego fight and Story looked horrible in the Brenneman


Stephan Bonnar vs. Kyle Kingsbury
The who gives a fuck fight of the night..

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MAIN CARD (Pay-per-view)
Dan Henderson vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua
- I actually think Hendo's only chance is outpointing Rua, yep I said it. Shogun by TKO in 2nd round.
Cung Le vs. Wanderlei Silva
- This will be a fun fight, and if it goes the distance it will be FOTN. I think Silva gets the KO or submits Le after the 2nd.
Brian Bowles vs. Urijah Faber
- Bowles is an angry guy. Faber's confidence is great, but...Bowles is an angry guy haha.
Martin Kampmann vs. Rick Story
- Kampmann does to Story what he wishes he'd have done to Diego...Kampmann by decision, wahhhhhh-wahhhh.

Prelim:
Nick Pace vs. Miguel Torres
- Maybe it's cheating, but waiting until weigh in day can help with these bets. The pressure on Pace for missing weight again is going to be too much, and Torres made a name defeating guys like him. Watch Torres finally finish him, and people say "ohhhh, he's returned!" haha

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I forgot that the Hendo/Shogun fight will be 5 rounds (not that I see it going that many rounds).

[polandprzem]

AIN CARD (Pay-per-view)

Dan Henderson vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua
I don't know. I think that Hendos wrestling in which Rua is not that great would be the difference, but IMO Shogun may fight smarter fight and avoind the damage standing and on floor.

Cung Le vs. Wanderlei Silva
Can go either way

Brian Bowles vs. Urijah Faber
All out war, and I'm giving slight adv to the california boy just because Bowles did not impressed me much


Martin Kampmann vs. Rick Story
100 miles an hour Story

Stephan Bonnar vs. Kyle Kingsbury

PRELIMINARY CARD (Spike TV)

Ryan Bader vs. Jason Brilz
Michael McDonald vs. Alex Soto

PRELIMINARY CARD (Facebook)

Tom Lawlor vs. Chris Weidman
Nick Pace vs. Miguel Torres
Rafael dos Anjos vs. Gleison Tibau
Seth Baczynski vs. Matt Brown
Shamar Bailey vs. Danny Castillo

[dbreiden83080]

I forgot that the Hendo/Shogun fight will be 5 rounds (not that I see it going that many rounds).

Forgot that too. Shogun by UD may be Shogun by TKO. Both guys have had cardio issues in the past..

[CubanSucks]

I forgot that the Hendo/Shogun fight will be 5 rounds (not that I see it going that many rounds).

huh? why?

[polandprzem]

huh? why?

Because they can and it's worth it

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Alvarez vs. Chandler on MTV2, Bellator, awesome opening round!!!

It already has a mix of Edgar/Maynard and Barry/Kongo

[ace3g]

huh? why?

because starting with Munoz/Leben fight; all main events are 5 rounds, including non title fights.

[ace3g]

good end of the round for Bonnar

[Slydragon]

Thanks to testing the new Xbox dashboard I get to watch this ppv free on xbox

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story working the body early

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last time I pick Story, figured his loss to Brenneman was because of how quick the change in opponent was (Marquardt). But to get out wrestled again...

oh well, I learned my lesson, that is MMA

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Silva has not evolved....

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Story = Diego Sanchez without the pace and cardio. I liked how he came out to start the fight but obviously after watching the Shields fight, you gotta know Kampmann is no wrestling slouch so his best chance was to punish Kamp early. Didn't work out.

Bowles was brutalized. :/

Now it's time for some action!

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Silva bringing out the kicks as well

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bad stoppage, ref was too antsy.

[resistanze]

Disgusting.

[Stringer_Bell]

Who are these refs tonight btw?

Cung Le has a chin, that was a bad stoppage - hope Dana gives him one more fight :(

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I'm sure more people are excited that another Strikeforce fighter goes down....

[ace3g]

should have called the fight there, if you want to keep things even like the Le/Silva fight...

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glad this is a 5 rounder ;)

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Zombie mode

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2 fight of the year candidates: Bellator and @ufc on the same night!!!!

[resistanze]

What a fight.

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now who gets the decision?

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also great job by ref not stopping that fight numerous times throughout the fight

[resistanze]

Man that looked like a draw

[ace3g]

rematch, unless Dana wants Hendo vs Rashad

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MAIN CARD (Pay-per-view)

Dan Henderson vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua
Cung Le vs. Wanderlei Silva
Brian Bowles vs. Urijah Faber
Martin Kampmann vs. Rick Story
Stephan Bonnar vs. Kyle Kingsbury

Possibly could have been 4-1 if ref lets Cung Le go to the 3rd round.

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Also lets see if the Rampage / Shogun fight happens in Japan

[mystargtr34]

What a fucking fight... i thought Shogun should have had that last round 10-8 for a draw... but then you could argue Dan could have had a 10-8 in one of the first 3 cant remember which one.

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Also lets see if the Rampage / Shogun fight happens in Japan

I really hope so, even if Shogun got the decision that is the fight I'd make.

It was a draw in my opinion, but the most epic draw in the history of fighting.

[mystargtr34]

Does Hendo get the next title shot? Or is it Rashad's?

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Does Hendo get the next title shot? Or is it Rashad's?

Depends, I'm sure that will be one of the 1st questions asked to Dana at the presser

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awesome, Dana gives FOTN to both Le/Silva and Hendo/Shogun "had to" was his response.

[mystargtr34]

Hmm yeah maybe its worth going Hendo vs Rashad and the winner against Machida vs Jones.

[Stringer_Bell]

Hendo needs to fight Rashad.

I'm still feeling bad for Shogun tho, another tough decision loss but hopefully Dana gives him 100K for FOTN.

[dbreiden83080]

Shogun won IMO

Hendo needs to fight Shad to get a shot

Jones will murder him..

[dbreiden83080]

Also lets see if the Rampage / Shogun fight happens in Japan

Book that shit..

[ace3g]

Sounds like according to Dana: "Rashad gets Bones next (after Machida); and Sonnen gets Silva next; Dan Hendo can fight for either 185 or 205 belt, and it might depend on timing which one he goes for; and which opportunity comes first"

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Dana basically "winked" ;) at a rumor of Silva headlining next card in Brazil...


and again when Faber asked Dana for him and Cruz to be the next coaches of TUF

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From Shogun's Manager/Translator's twitter:
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[CubanSucks]

Henderson easily won imo. Not as in the fight wasn't absolute hell for him but the first 3 rounds made him look like a world class striker. Then halfway though the 4th he gets rocked and for the rest of the fight he's just on his back avoiding the spastic gnp. Don't see how anyone was surprised by the decision

[ace3g]

Book that shit..

Apparently Bonnar wants to fight Rampage as well, and Rampage is up for the fight as well.

http://www.espn.co.uk/ufc/sport/story/122306.html

[dbreiden83080]

Henderson easily won imo. Not as in the fight wasn't absolute hell for him but the first 3 rounds made him look like a world class striker. Then halfway though the 4th he gets rocked and for the rest of the fight he's just on his back avoiding the spastic gnp. Don't see how anyone was surprised by the decision

IT was mad close. Shogun i gave round 2 too and Hendo took rounds 1 and 3 Round 4 Shogun and Round 5 could have been 10-8 Shogun

Epic fuckin war. Top 10 fight ever in MMA..

[dbreiden83080]

Apparently Bonnar wants to fight Rampage as well, and Rampage is up for the fight as well.

http://www.espn.co.uk/ufc/sport/story/122306.html

WTH has Bonnar done to deserve a fight with Rampage? That's a fight Page won't get up for at all.. He'll train like shit and win a boring decision.

Page needs motivation. Page needs Shogun..

[dbreiden83080]

Fight Metric scored it for Shogun


http://blog.fightmetric.com/2011/11/henderson-vs-shogun-official-ufc.html

[polandprzem]

That was a great card

I had trouble watching some fights because I was attacked by a powerful sleep. Good that main event killed it and I was able to watch it with eyes wide open.
What a war it was. I cannot remember such destroying fight for both fighters.

MMA is getting better and better. This sport is really something.


As for the refs - many of the I saw for the first time and few fights were stopped too early. One ref was always asking about mouthpiece. Why? :D
The fighters were checked b4 they walked into octagon.
Anyway in the ME there was no question about the decision made by ref.
IMO Rosenthal is the best out there. I haven't seen a bad decision made by him in the UFC.


Torres is such a boring fighter!
haven't seen an exciting fight from him in a while.

Faber vs Cruz - hopefully another classic war!


Things getting complicated in the MWD
Silva is injured and so many guys now wants to fight for a title.
Bisping/Mayhem
Munoz
Belcher
Vitor
Hendo

and of course Sonnen every of this guys should fight somewhere between Feb and April and Silva will be available somewhere after June

:pctoss

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nicktheface tribute vid:

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