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Winehole23
08-04-2011, 12:10 PM
Rumsfeld Iraq 'torture' suit given go-ahead


A US judge has ruled that a former American military contractor who claims he was tortured in Iraq can sue former Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.
The man's lawyers say he was abducted by the US military and abused at a US military detention centre near Baghdad.


The government says he was suspected of helping pass information to the enemy, although he was never charged.


It is the second time that a federal judge has allowed a US citizen to sue Mr Rumsfeld over torture claims.


The man who brought the suit approved by US District Judge James Gwin is an army veteran in his 50s.


He was released from Camp Cropper detention centre in Iraq in 2006.
In 2008, he filed a suit at the US District Court in Washington claiming that Mr Rumsfeld had personally approved interrogation techniques involving torture on a case-by-case basis, the Associated Press news agency reports.



Mike Kanovitz, a lawyer for the former contractor, said it appeared his client had been held to prevent him speaking about a contact he had made with a sheikh while gathering intelligence in Iraq.


Mr Rumsfeld has been represented by the Obama administration, through the justice department.



It argues that Mr Rumsfeld cannot be sued personally for official conduct, that wartime decisions are the constitutional responsibility of Congress and the president and cannot be reviewed by a judge, and that the case risks creating a threat of liability that could hamper future military decisions.
Mr Rumsfeld is appealing against a 2010 ruling by an Illinois judge who said two other former contractors held at Camp Cropper could pursue claims that they were tortured using methods approved by the former defence secretary.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14397907

George Gervin's Afro
08-04-2011, 12:45 PM
For all of the talk of Obama being a liar liar pants on fire by the righties... this is the guy who told us we KNEW where the WMDs were...

but hey I guess the jacksommerset's of the world are more concerned with seeing the healthcare debate on c-span than finding out why we had to rush into a war...


this guy is a POS

jack sommerset
08-04-2011, 12:53 PM
"liar liar pants on fire" Compelling rebutal.

The thread is about Rumsfeld so called 'torture' suit not Obamacare. Try to stay focus.

"Mr Rumsfeld cannot be sued personally for official conduct, that wartime decisions are the constitutional responsibility of Congress and the president and cannot be reviewed by a judge, and that the case risks creating a threat of liability that could hamper future military decisions."

That pretty much sums it up for me.

boutons_deux
08-04-2011, 12:54 PM
"why we had to rush into a war.."

WTF? we had a criminal LYING CAMPAIGN into war.

Rummy is as guilty of running rotten Army chain of command as Murdoch is guilty of running a rotten News Corp. The isolated rotten apple defense doesn't work when the whole mgmt barrel is putrid.

Winehole23
08-04-2011, 12:54 PM
jack sommerset tows the company line.