Rick Perry's impressive college transcript

[MannyIsGod]

I don't recall that speech.

[DMX7]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if McCain was 5th from the top of his class it wouldn't have changed your vote.

It wouldn't have changed my vote, but I'd at least have more respect for his intelligence (until he choose Palin, of course)

[Agloco]

It's been catalogued Mcain lost the election as soon as Palin opened her mouth on national TV

That was all or nothing for him. If she had come across like a semi-intelligent person it's a win most definitely.

[Winehole23]

I don't recall that speech.http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-obama-remarks-20110808,0,5361390.story

[MannyIsGod]

Oh. Well considering that speech came a full three years after Obama won the election I think my original point still stands. :lmao

Silly me for thinking it was obvious the time frame I clearly implied was during the campaign.

[Agloco]

For those relishing the news of these grades, aren't any of you concerned that private records can be dug up so easily? What if it was your records in display to the world?

Most people wouldn't believe it tbh.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Just so you know, Joe Biden ranked 506th of 688 in his class.
Why do you care? I thought class rank/GPA didn't matter to you?

[Blake]

Just so you know, Joe Biden ranked 506th of 688 in his class.

he went on to receive his Juris Doctor in Law.

[coyotes_geek]

nm.

[Agloco]

Just so you know, Joe Biden ranked 506th of 688 in his class.


he went on to receive his Juris Doctor in Law.

Par for the course tbh.

I know someone who got into law school this past year. It frightened me tbh. He's the last person I'd want in control of my destiny in any regard. He's also the last person I'd expect a law school to accept. Of course they did so without interviewing him, which is another matter.......

No offense to any attornies, but I have to question the quality of some applicants.

[Blake]

Par for the course tbh.

I know someone who got into law school this past year. It frightened me tbh. He's the last person I'd want in control of my destiny in any regard. He's also the last person I'd expect a law school to accept. Of course they did so without interviewing him, which is another matter.......

No offense to any attornies, but I have to question the quality of some applicants.

an attorney in control with double majors in history and poli sci frighten me much less than lame duck governors with animal science or comm/journalism degrees.

I bet that Biden knows the story of Paul Revere.

[vy65]

Par for the course tbh.

I know someone who got into law school this past year. It frightened me tbh. He's the last person I'd want in control of my destiny in any regard. He's also the last person I'd expect a law school to accept. Of course they did so without interviewing him, which is another matter.......

No offense to any attornies, but I have to question the quality of some applicants.

Some of them are suspect when they enter. A lot drop out after their first year. A lot never practice/can't get a job (especially now). Some straighten up.

By the way, why do people think how someone did in college is indicative of how they'll perform in a job 30 years later? I thought people party in college and get their shit together when they graduate?

[DarrinS]

an attorney in control with double majors in history and poli sci frighten me much less than lame duck governors with animal science or comm/journalism degrees.

I bet that Biden knows the story of Paul Revere.

But he doesn't know that a paraplegic man can't "stand up".

[FuzzyLumpkins]

This is how far America has fallen. Well educated individuals are looked upon as poorer leadership candidates than those that either are too stupid or too lackadaisical to succeed in an academic environment. Showing a propensity to learn is not as important as public image.

[Agloco]

Some of them are suspect when they enter. A lot drop out after their first year. A lot never practice/can't get a job (especially now). Some straighten up.

By the way, why do people think how someone did in college is indicative of how they'll perform in a job 30 years later? I thought people party in college and get their shit together when they graduate?

Just playing the odds tbh. It's definitely a multivariate issue. My likelihood estimaton is greatly influenced by the fact that I know said person quite well.

[Agloco]

an attorney in control with double majors in history and poli sci frighten me much less than lame duck governors with animal science or comm/journalism degrees.

I bet that Biden knows the story of Paul Revere.

Meh, six of one, half dozen of the other.

[xrayzebra]

Meh, six of one, half dozen of the other.

Do the Dimm-o-craps really want to start looking at educational
accomplishments of their party. And those that speak for them.
If you do, I will be happy to give them those great spokesman of
their party and their utterances. Starting with Nancy Pelosi, Teddy,
the swimmer, Kennedy and of course the wounded Vietnam war veteran
John Kerry, now on the super committee. :downspin:

Or our very own wonderful Dimm-o-crap, Lydon B. Johnson. I understand
they screwed him into the ground when he died, He was that crooked.
I know, I know, he won his seat in the Senate, alphabetical order. Cause
he was so organized.

[DMX7]

Par for the course tbh.

I know someone who got into law school this past year. It frightened me tbh. He's the last person I'd want in control of my destiny in any regard. He's also the last person I'd expect a law school to accept. Of course they did so without interviewing him, which is another matter.......


Which law school?

[coyotes_geek]

Do the Dimm-o-craps really want to start looking at educational
accomplishments of their party. And those that speak for them.
If you do, I will be happy to give them those great spokesman of
their party and their utterances. Starting with Nancy Pelosi, Teddy,
the swimmer, Kennedy and of course the wounded Vietnam war veteran
John Kerry, now on the super committee. :downspin:


That would be very helpful. Providing copies of Pelosi's, Kennedy's and Kerry's college transcripts should suffice. We eagerly await your findings.

[xrayzebra]

That would be very helpful. Providing copies of Pelosi's, Kennedy's and Kerry's college transcripts should suffice. We eagerly await your findings.


You have to see them to find out what's in them.......remember.

Well that's Pelosi's excuse.

Kerry. Our troops murder innocent civilians just for grins. Well maybe not
but that is what I was told. And about those medals I threw over the
fence, well they weren't mine, but what the hell.

And Kennedy, the swimmer, He was confused.

That's all the transcripts I need. Obama, he is more than likely the
most cunning Son of Barack that I know. But he has never released
his transcripts. But you can depend on one thing. Yes we can!

Oh, about my statement, I am just following the Dimm-O-Crap model.

Have a great day.

[Agloco]

Which law school?

Cooligde, Coolee.....some crap like that. He mentioned that it was the worst one in the nation. It's still accredited though? :wtf

He mentioned tiers too....like 4th tier whatever that means.

[coyotes_geek]

You have to see them to find out what's in them.......remember.

Well that's Pelosi's excuse.

Kerry. Our troops murder innocent civilians just for grins. Well maybe not
but that is what I was told. And about those medals I threw over the
fence, well they weren't mine, but what the hell.

And Kennedy, the swimmer, He was confused.

That's all the transcripts I need. Obama, he is more than likely the
most cunning Son of Barack that I know. But he has never released
his transcripts. But you can depend on one thing. Yes we can!

Oh, about my statement, I am just following the Dimm-O-Crap model.

Well I'm sold. You offering to provide evidence of dimm-o-craps educational accomplishments, not doing so and then saying you were just following the dimm-o-crap model certainly has me convinced that the republicans are the better educated party. Congrats on winning the thread.


Have a great day.

You too. :toast

[Blake]

This is how far America has fallen. Well educated individuals are looked upon as poorer leadership candidates than those that either are too stupid or too lackadaisical to succeed in an academic environment. Showing a propensity to learn is not as important as public image.

A well educated individual can also looked upon as a poor candidate if he is in the wrong party.

It's pretty evident in this microcosm we call a forum.

[Blake]

Do the Dimm-o-craps really want to start looking at educational
accomplishments of their party.

lololololololololol dimm-o-craps

lolololololololololollolololol

[Blake]

Meh, six of one, half dozen of the other.

in the presidential race, not really.

[TeyshaBlue]

Well I'm sold. You offering to provide evidence of dimm-o-craps educational accomplishments, not doing so and then saying you were just following the dimm-o-crap model certainly has me convinced that the republicans are the better educated party. Congrats on winning the thread.



You too. :toast

Howdy Mr. Blue.:lol

[Blake]

Cooligde, Coolee.....some crap like that. He mentioned that it was the worst one in the nation. It's still accredited though? :wtf

so it's not really par for the course then.

didn't think so.


He mentioned tiers too....like 4th tier whatever that means.

law schools are ranked in tiers by US News and World Report, 1st tier being the best tier group.

Syracuse College of Law, where Biden graduated, this year is ranked as a 1st tier school.

[coyotes_geek]

Howdy Mr. Blue.:lol

:lol

That's me! :cheer

[Agloco]

so it's not really par for the course then.

didn't think so.

Indeed it is par because at the end of the day he's eligible for bar exams and will share the same professional responsibilities (in a broad sense of course) as the good Mr. Biden. Chilling.

It's an ongoing thing each and every year. There are candidates like the person in my example and they get accepted without any sort of vetting.......unless the LSAT is considered vetting :lol.



law schools are ranked in tiers by US News and World Report, 1st tier being the best tier group.

Syracuse College of Law, where Biden graduated, this year is ranked as a 1st tier school.

:tu

How about when Biden graduated?

[hater]

W pretty much lowered the bar so low that Perry more than qualifies

[Blake]

Indeed it is par because at the end of the day he's eligible for bar exams and will share the same professional responsibilities (in a broad sense of course) as the good Mr. Biden. Chilling.

It's an ongoing thing each and every year. There are candidates like the person in my example and they get accepted without any sort of vetting.......unless the LSAT is considered vetting :lol.

I had to look back at your other post.

It's not the course I thought was being played on.

for all practical purposes, you are only as good as the case you just finished working on, 4th tier or 1st tier.

...but if we put a 4th tier alumnus in a court room against a 1st tier alumnus, I wouldn't bet on the 4th tier......would you?



:tu

How about when Biden graduated?

don't know, but the rankings don't fluctuate much from year to year.

if it's par for the course, why does it matter to you?

[Agloco]

I had to look back at your other post.

It's not the course I thought was being played on.

for all practical purposes, you are only as good as the case you just finished working on, 4th tier or 1st tier.

...but if we put a 4th tier alumnus in a court room against a 1st tier alumnus, I wouldn't bet on the 4th tier......would you?

I don't believe I know enough to answer that. Based on my limited knowledge, probably not. In medicine, it's been my experience that years in the profession matter. The further out from school they are, the less it will influence the outcome I'd think.




don't know, but the rankings don't fluctuate much from year to year.

if it's par for the course, why does it matter to you?

Curiosity and clarification of context.

[DMX7]

Cooligde, Coolee.....some crap like that. He mentioned that it was the worst one in the nation. It's still accredited though? :wtf

He mentioned tiers too....like 4th tier whatever that means.

Going to a 4th tier law school is pointless. There aren't that many good law jobs out there to begin with, and going to a 4th tier school makes it even harder to get one of those good jobs.

[Agloco]

Going to a 4th tier law school is pointless. There aren't that many good law jobs out there to begin with, and going to a 4th tier school makes it even harder to get one of those good jobs.

<shrug>

It's on the house, and he walks away with his JD (provided he finishes) while being bar eligible. Not completely pointless IMO. He'll probably fall into something halfway good, even if it's outside of law.

[boutons_deux]

Here's another Repug Prez wannabe who went to a shitty law school:

Inside the Right-Wing Christian Law School That Brought Us Michele Bachmann

At the May “First Friday” lecture hosted by the Institute on the Constitution at the Heritage Community Church in Severn, Maryland, IOTC founder Michael Peroutka presented the evening’s guest speaker, attorney Herb Titus, with a “Patrick Henry Award” for “his tireless and fearless telling of God’s truth to power.” Titus (best known for his representation of former Judge Roy Moore in his failed quest to install a 2.6-ton Ten Commandments monument in the Alabama Supreme Court building) is one of the few lawyers in America who, Peroutka noted, truly “believes God is sovereign and therefore God’s law is the only law.” For Peroutka, the Constitution Party’s 2004 nominee for president, this was his usual spiel on God and the law.

In the late 1970s, Titus played an instrumental role in launching the law school at Oral Roberts University (ORU), from which GOP presidential hopeful Michele Bachmann graduated in 1986. Titus, who rejected his Harvard Law School education after reading the work of R.J. Rushdoony, the late founder of Christian Reconstructionism, was moved to exercise what he believes is a “dominion mandate” to “restore the Bible to legal education.” To teach, in other words, that Christianity is the basis of our law, that lawyers and judges should follow God's law, and that the failure to do so is evidence of a “tyrannical,” leftist agenda.

Titus’ lecture, as well as the teachings of Reconstructionists, the Constitution Party, and the IOTC, provide a window into Bachmann’s legal education, and thus how her political career and rhetoric—so incomprehensible and absurd to many observers—was unmistakably shaped by it.

Restoring the American Jurisprudence to its “Biblical Foundations”

After launching ORU’s law school, and later helping with Regent University’s 1986 takeover and launch of a public policy program, Titus ran on Constitution Party founder Howard Phillips’ presidential ticket in 1996. The stated goal of the Constitution Party “is to restore American jurisprudence to its biblical foundations and to limit the federal government to its Constitutional boundaries.” That includes, for example, “affirm[ing] the rights of states and localities to proscribe offensive sexual behavior” (i.e., homosexuality) and “oppos[ing] all efforts to impose a new sexual legal order through the federal court system” (i.e., civil unions, marriage equality, or adoption by LGBT people). It is more extreme than the Republican Party platform, to be sure, but the GOP is hardly devoid of allies of the Constitution Party—including Sharron Angle, who ran for Senate in Nevada last year, and presidential candidate Ron Paul.

http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/151695

[DMX7]

<shrug>

It's on the house, and he walks away with his JD (provided he finishes) while being bar eligible. Not completely pointless IMO. He'll probably fall into something halfway good, even if it's outside of law.

He has a full scholarship to a law school? That's nice, but the opportunity cost alone is too high a price to go there imho.

[Agloco]

He has a full scholarship to a law school? That's nice, but the opportunity cost alone is too high a price to go there imho.

Yeah that's why he chose it as opposed to some second and third tier schools. According to him, it won't affect his job prospects much. Time will tell I guess.

[Wild Cobra]

Going to a 4th tier law school is pointless. There aren't that many good law jobs out there to begin with, and going to a 4th tier school makes it even harder to get one of those good jobs.
We call those people "politicians."