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Spursfan092120
08-19-2011, 08:07 PM
'West Memphis Three' freed in '93 slayings
New evidence had arisen to potentially challenge the convictions of the men, one of whom had been on death row, for the deaths of three young boys.

By Richard Fausset, Los Angeles Times
August 19, 2011, 5:29 p.m.

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Reporting from Atlanta— The men known as the "West Memphis Three," who served more than 18 years behind bars for the notorious 1993 murders of three young boys — and became a cause celebre among actors and musicians who doubted their guilt — won their freedom in an Arkansas courtroom Friday after new evidence arose to potentially challenge their convictions.

Their legal absolution, however, was not clear-cut. In an agreement with prosecutors, Damien Echols and Jessie Misskelley, both 36, and Jason Baldwin, 34, pleaded guilty to first-degree murder charges but will also able to claim they are innocent, a rare arrangement known as an Alford plea.

"It's not perfect by any means," Echols, pale and in tinted shades, said at a news conference after the hearing. "But at least it brings closure.... We can still try to clear our names. The only difference is now we can do it from the outside."

Echols, the alleged ringleader, had been on death row. Baldwin and Misskelley were serving life sentences.

The gruesome slayings of the 8-year-old boys — Christopher Byers, Steve Branch and Michael Moore — terrified the small city of West Memphis, Ark., leading to rumors that a Satanic cult was responsible. After disappearing one afternoon in May 1993, the second-graders were found "naked, bound and in horrific condition, submerged in a creek in the woods," according to a court filing.

Later, the convicts' plight became an enduring issue among musicians and Hollywood actors who were concerned that the suspects, teenagers at the time, were persecuted for being different. Their black clothing and preference for heavy metal music had been presented by prosecutors as part of an argument that they were Satanists who had engaged in "an occult murder."

Singers Natalie Maines of the Dixie Chicks and Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam, who had publicly called for a new trial, attended Friday's court hearing.

Scott Ellington, the prosecuting attorney in Jonesboro, Ark., said that with new revelations in the case, it was likely the men would have received new trials — and that it would have been "practically impossible" to put on a proper trial 18 years after the slayings. He noted that two of the victims' families had also decided over time that the men were wrongly accused.

After the slayings, West Memphis police interviewed Misskelley, who told them he watched as Baldwin, then 16, and Echols, then 19, killed the boys. One detective said Misskelley had also talked about being in a cult.

The three were convicted in 1994 but have been behind bars since their arrests shortly after the killings.

Supporters said Misskelley's confession was false and coerced, and have noted that he's mentally disabled. Misskelley later recanted the confession.

More recently, attorneys for the men raised other issues that would have likely been brought up in fresh trials. The Arkansas Supreme Court found that none of the recent DNA testing of material at the crime scene pointed to the convicted men. (There had been no such testing at the time of the trial.) The high court had ordered new hearings scheduled for December.

Attorneys for Echols, in a February filing, said that DNA testing of a hair on a cord used to bind one of the victims was consistent with the DNA of Terry Hobbs, the stepfather of victim Steven Branch.

Hobbs has denied seeing the three victims on the day of their disappearance, but Echols' attorneys said they had found three eyewitnesses who said Hobbs was "the last adult seen with the victims" on the night they disappeared.

Hobbs told a local TV station that he had "done nothing wrong." The Times was unsuccessful in contacting him Friday.

Ellington, the prosecutor, said that Hobbs was not a suspect and that he considered the case closed.

"As far as the state's concerned ... there is no further investigation," he said in a phone interview, adding that he would consider compelling new information if it surfaced.

An Alford plea is so called because it derives from the 1970 Supreme Court case Alford vs. North Carolina, in which the court ruled that a valid guilty plea does not necessarily require admitting guilt. It is sometimes agreed upon when both defense and the prosecution have reasons for wishing to avoid a jury trial.

Judge David Laser had surprised followers of the case Thursday in scheduling the hearing. On Friday, celebrity supporters said they were shocked and relieved by the fast-moving turn of events.

James Hetfield of Metallica, interviewed by phone from Hawaii, called the outcome "amazing." He said the band became interested in the case — and agreed to let their music be used in an HBO documentary — because it seemed like a case of "judging the book by its cover."

"The way you dress, the things you listen to ... I can basically speak for myself, growing up, that that was just a sign of wanting to be creative and be different," he said.

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BlackSwordsMan
08-19-2011, 08:48 PM
You just know all three of these guys were passed around for cigs and toilet paper.

Spursfan092120
08-19-2011, 08:58 PM
You just know all three of these guys were passed around for cigs and toilet paper.

Not Echols..dude was in solitary. Miskelley is borderline mentally retarded..they probably left him alone. I could see Jason, maybe...lol

Sense
08-19-2011, 10:21 PM
They look like killers tbh.

BlackSwordsMan
08-19-2011, 11:24 PM
Especially the one in the baby blue shirt.

Sense
08-20-2011, 09:21 AM
I hate how the lawyers are trying really hard to make them look like good people... especially the one with glasses... he's a hero because he took the plea? ridiculous.

Viva Las Espuelas
08-20-2011, 09:35 AM
I think he's the hero cuz he's been sitting in a jail for almost half his life for no reason.

Sense
08-20-2011, 09:49 AM
Very horoic indeed. :wakeup

Spursfan092120
08-20-2011, 10:05 AM
I hate how the lawyers are trying really hard to make them look like good people... especially the one with glasses... he's a hero because he took the plea? ridiculous.

Obviously you know nothing about this case. This guy took a plea when he was completely innocent, completely against his morals, so his friend could get off death row. These guys did nothing, and basically agreed to take a plea off Miskelley's coerced admission of guilt. When you tell a mentally retarded guy after 12 hours of being grilled without food or water that you'll let him and his friends go if they admit guilt, they're going to do it. Jason wanted nothing to do with this..but he did it for his friend..that is heroic.

Wild Cobra
08-20-2011, 11:10 AM
You just know all three of these guys were passed around for cigs and toilet paper.
That's the going rate per month, for paying a man determined innocent, after serving time?

These guys might be able to retire!

ChumpDumper
08-20-2011, 11:19 AM
That's the going rate per month, for paying a man determined innocent, after serving time?

These guys might be able to retire!
In Texas, I believe it's about 80k per year.

Stringer_Bell
08-20-2011, 11:44 AM
Bittersweet awesomeness. I hope those prosecutors spend the same amount of energy finding the real killer(s) as they did figuring out a way to cover their asses for putting 3 innocent men in prison for all these years.

hehateme
08-20-2011, 12:17 PM
Bittersweet awesomeness. I hope those prosecutors spend the same amount of energy finding the real killer(s) as they did figuring out a way to cover their asses for putting 3 innocent men in prison for all these years.


They won't be searching for any other killers from what the article reads.

I remember watching that documentary though and the judicial system there definitely fucked this one up so I doubt they restart an investigation that could make them look worse when they do find out who did it.

Spursfan092120
08-20-2011, 12:32 PM
They won't be searching for any other killers from what the article reads.

I remember watching that documentary though and the judicial system there definitely fucked this one up so I doubt they restart an investigation that could make them look worse when they do find out who did it.

Yeah...I believe unfortunately, the case is closed. Damn closed minded people refused to see evidence that was right in front of them before, God forbid they spend more time trying to find a killer and screw up again. Of course they have a good lead already, with hair from the stepfather of one of the children on site.

Viva Las Espuelas
08-20-2011, 12:52 PM
That's the going rate per month, for paying a man determined innocent, after serving time?

These guys might be able to retire!

these guys aren't getting jack shit. that's part of the plea deal.

Viva Las Espuelas
08-20-2011, 12:53 PM
Obviously you know nothing about this case.
i couldn't agree more.

Viva Las Espuelas
08-20-2011, 12:55 PM
Yeah...I believe unfortunately, the case is closed. Damn closed minded people refused to see evidence that was right in front of them before, God forbid they spend more time trying to find a killer and screw up again. Of course they have a good lead already, with hair from the stepfather of one of the children on site.

i don't think the case is closed. apparently the judge is tired of being called incompetent and both sides of lawyers want to clear their name over this. who knows. some vigilante justice might prevail.

Spursfan092120
08-20-2011, 01:49 PM
i don't think the case is closed. apparently the judge is tired of being called incompetent and both sides of lawyers want to clear their name over this. who knows. some vigilante justice might prevail.
I hope you're right. They did say that if something interesting popped up, they might take a look, but as of right now, they're saying it's cased closed.

Trainwreck2100
08-20-2011, 01:56 PM
That's the going rate per month, for paying a man determined innocent, after serving time?

These guys might be able to retire!

They pled guilty

Spursfan092120
08-20-2011, 02:54 PM
Yeah..the Alford plea is technically a guilty plea where they maintain their innocence. Doesn't make any sense, and the court usually only does it when they know they're wrong.

Trainwreck2100
08-20-2011, 03:27 PM
it makes sense for the court so they don't have to pony up cash

Spursfan092120
08-20-2011, 09:34 PM
it makes sense for the court so they don't have to pony up cash

Or admit when they're wrong, tbh. These guys have been in prison for 18 years with all evidence stating they had nothing to do with it. Complete bullshit.

thispego
08-20-2011, 09:41 PM
Why did misskelley originally confess and implicate the others only to recant later? I think they're guilty as fuck

Spursfan092120
08-20-2011, 09:43 PM
Why did misskelley originally confess and implicate the others only to recant later? I think they're guilty as fuck

Miskelley is mentally retarded. He was kept in a room for 12 hours straight with no food or water and was told if he admitted they were guilty, they would take it easy on them, otherwise he was going to be kept in the room. Read up on the story a bit. Damn glad you weren't on the jury.

thispego
08-20-2011, 09:47 PM
Miskelley is mentally retarded. He was kept in a room for 12 hours straight with no food or water and was told if he admitted they were guilty, they would take it easy on them, otherwise he was going to be kept in the room. Read up on the story a bit. Damn glad you weren't on the jury.

I read another article on it last night, didn't say anything about miskelley being retarded or coerced into anything

Spursfan092120
08-20-2011, 10:05 PM
I read another article on it last night, didn't say anything about miskelley being retarded or coerced into anything

Been studying up on this case for years...I can show you articles all over the place talking about it...What article did you read that didn't say he was mentally handicapped? Everything I've read talks about it. That's one of the major parts of the case. If you were held in a room for 12 hours as a person whose IQ puts you as mentally handicapped, and you're told that you're going to be given a break if you admit guilt, and you're threatened by police, and also offered money, you'd do it too. And knowing he's mentally handicapped, why did the police ONLY question Miskelley? Echols and Baldwin weren't interrogated. And that "confession" is the only thing they have on them. No evidence, no DNA, no nothing. And immediately after the confession, and they were locked up, Miskelley recanted and said it was forced. One of the murdered little boys' stepfather's hair was on the rope that tied one of them up. He said he didn't see them at all that day, but eyewitnesses said he was the last adult with them. This is a simple case of bible belt people thinking that because these three teenagers listen to rock music and dress in black, they're part of a satanic cult that killed little boys.

DMC
08-20-2011, 10:10 PM
If they are from West Memphis, they are guilty.

Viva Las Espuelas
08-20-2011, 10:11 PM
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Spursfan092120
08-20-2011, 10:12 PM
http://media.lonelyplanet.com/lpimg/13647/13647-43/preview.jpg

I know, I know...don't feed. I'm done.

AussieFanKurt
02-10-2013, 03:06 AM
Bumping this thread after watching West of Memphis... a doco about the whole ordeal

Very interesting doco.... anyone interested should go out of their way to watch...

Wild Cobra
02-10-2013, 03:19 AM
Bumping this thread after watching West of Memphis... a doco about the whole ordeal

Very interesting doco.... anyone interested should go out of their way to watch...
Netflix has it on their DVD subscription. I only have streaming.

AussieFanKurt
02-10-2013, 04:40 AM
Netflix has it on their DVD subscription. I only have streaming.

Damn... well if its a topic/story that interests you its a good watch when you get the chance