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Parker2112
08-19-2011, 11:00 PM
Pun intended.

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/08/18/rick_perry_women_ad/morrowadbig.jpg

Bartleby
08-19-2011, 11:04 PM
cool typeface for the bold part, but he really should have kept it more consistent

Nbadan
08-19-2011, 11:05 PM
This is gonna be fun

RprOiBOGgMs

It's just like Dubya never left

:lol

Hooks
08-20-2011, 12:38 AM
40K7p3kZO9c

4>0rings
08-20-2011, 01:34 AM
:lmao

He's gonna get hit hard.

Wild Cobra
08-20-2011, 10:18 AM
The art of digging up dirt is pretty good, but they have to resort to an ad to find people?

You know, there will be people out there who lie, just to get the attention, money, or something else. This is a poor move because now if they do find someone, it will not be believable.

Wild Cobra
08-20-2011, 10:20 AM
40K7p3kZO9c
Real or staged?

Wild Cobra
08-20-2011, 10:21 AM
Looks like the dirty tricks department will go into overtime.

DarrinS
08-20-2011, 10:32 AM
This is gonna be fun

RprOiBOGgMs

It's just like Dubya never left

:lol

Good parenting.

Wild Cobra
08-20-2011, 10:41 AM
Good parenting.
But parents are expected to indoctrinate their children into their belief system.

boutons_deux
08-20-2011, 10:46 AM
Why Rick Perry Won't Win

Everyone looks good before they get into the race. Remember how great Tim Pawlenty was supposed to be? But just wait a few months for Perry to get beat up by his opponents, for the oppo research to kick in, for all the big profiles to start appearing, and for a gaffe or two to get some play. He'll start to look distinctly more human then.

He's too Texan. Sorry. Maybe that's fair, maybe it's not. But even in the Republican Party, not everyone is from the South and not everyone is bowled over by a Texas drawl. Perry is, by a fair amount, more Texan than George W. Bush, and an awful lot of people are still suffering from Bush fatigue.

He's too mean. He'll have a hard time pretending he's any kind of compassionate conservative, and outside of Texas you still need a bit of that. Aside from being politically ruthless and famous for holding grudges, Perry's the kind of guy who almost certainly executed an innocent man, never pretended to care about it, and brazenly disbanded a commission investigating it. This famously produced the following quote in a 2010 focus group: "It takes balls to execute an innocent man." In Texas, maybe that works. In the rest of the country, not so much.

He's too dumb. Go ahead, call me an elitist. I'm keenly aware that Americans don't vote for presidents based on their SAT scores, but everything I've read about Perry suggests that he's a genuinely dim kind of guy. Not just incurious or too sure about his gut feelings, like George W. Bush, but simply not bright enough to handle the demands of the Oval Office. Americans might not care if their presidents are geniuses, but there's a limit to how doltish they can be too.

(B: The more Perry opens his mouth since he announced, the dumber and more stupid he proves himself to be. He may be dumber than dubya. Relentless, ruthless motivation simply doesn't compensate for ignorance and dumbness)

He's too smarmy. He might be fine one-on-one, but on a national stage Perry looks like a tent revival preacher or a used car salesman. Again: This might play okay in Texas and a few other places, but it will wear thin quickly in most of the country.

He's too overtly religious. Even Bush soft pedaled his religious side for the masses during his first campaign and did most of his outreach to the evangelical community quietly. Outside the Bible Belt, Perry's fire-and-brimstone act is going to be hard to take.

Policywise, he's too radical, even for Republicans. "Social Security is a Ponzi scheme" goes over well with a certain segment of the tea party, but not with most of the country. Nor does most of the country want to get rid of Medicare and turn it over to the states. Nor do they think global warming is a hoax, and they don't really think all that kindly of people who muse publicly about seceding from the union. Bush was able to soften his hard Texas edge with a genuine passion for education. I'm not sure Perry can do that.

Despite conventional wisdom, about half of the GOP rank-and-file aren't tea party sympathizers (see Question 3G here). Of the half who are, Perry is going to have to compete with Michele Bachmann and possibly with Sarah Palin. Mitt Romney, on the other hand, has the noncrazy half of the party almost to himself. Huntsman isn't going to provide him with any serious competition there, and Pawlenty is rapidly becoming a non-factor too. I think this is an extremely underappreciated dynamic right now. Yes, Republican primary voters tend to be more conservative than the party as a whole, but there are still going to be a lot of non-tea-partiers who vote, and they don't have a lot of good choices other than Romney. What's more, a fair number of tea partiers like Romney too (see Question 19 here). This is a pretty good base to work from.

Perry's campaign is going to be heavily based on the "Texas miracle." But this looks a lot less miraculous once you put it under a microscope—and pretty soon it won't just be churlish lefties pointing this out. You can be sure that the rest of the Republican field will be hauling out their own microscopes before long.

Republicans want to beat Obama. They really, really want to beat Obama. Romney is still their best chance, and down deep I think they know it.

http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2011/08/why-rick-perry-wont-win

ChumpDumper
08-20-2011, 11:10 AM
cool typeface for the bold part, but he really should have kept it more consistentThey should have angled it back like the Star Wars openers.

Hooks
08-20-2011, 02:46 PM
Real or staged?

Real, it was at a fund raising event. That guy james mahoney is a boa exec.

Wild Cobra
08-20-2011, 03:27 PM
Real, it was at a fund raising event. That guy james mahoney is a boa exec.
Still, he got ignored.

ElNono
08-20-2011, 04:09 PM
But parents are expected to indoctrinate their children into their belief system.

Are they now?

DMX7
08-20-2011, 04:12 PM
WTF is Cowboy Perry talking about now?

LMAO - I went to school in Texas, and I was never taught creationism in public school. :lol

I first learned about it in CCD where I openly laughed at it.

DMC
08-20-2011, 10:39 PM
I hope the fuck Perry doesn't win. That's gonna suck.

Wild Cobra
08-21-2011, 10:48 AM
Are they now?
LOL...

I love getting a rise out of people. Would you except this statement.

It is expected that parents will try to teach their children their values.

ElNono
08-21-2011, 10:52 AM
It is expected that parents will try to teach their children their values.

That's not what you said earlier

Wild Cobra
08-21-2011, 11:01 AM
That's not what you said earlier
No shit.

Your point?

Besides, isn't it the same difference?

ElNono
08-21-2011, 11:04 AM
Your point?

Besides, isn't it the same difference?

Not really. Depends on your parents, I guess.

Wild Cobra
08-21-2011, 11:13 AM
Not really. Depends on your parents, I guess.
Wait now.

Do you disagree that most parents will not attempt to teach their kids, their values?

What is indoctrination, anyway?

This woman has no solid fact and is using that to instill with her child. Telling her child "Ask him why he doesn't believe in science" shows her bias, being instilled on her child. Isn't that indoctrination?

Now to her, it appears to me that believing in "creationism" is abandoning science. Their are different schools of thought when it comes to creationism, and I agree that many are outlandish. But even the outlandish ones, I have heard sound theoretical possibilities to explain them.

DMX7
08-21-2011, 11:33 AM
Now to her, it appears to me that believing in "creationism" is abandoning science. Their are different schools of thought when it comes to creationism, and I agree that many are outlandish. But even the outlandish ones, I have heard sound theoretical possibilities to explain them.

Like what? Irreducible Complexity? Yeah, you've also heard those "sound theoretical possibilities" thoroughly debunked.

Wild Cobra
08-21-2011, 11:48 AM
Like what? Irreducible Complexity? Yeah, you've also heard those "sound theoretical possibilities" thoroughly debunked.
Just ask me a question and if I have heard the explanation, I will repeat it to my best ability. Don't ask me to recount all though.

One that sticks out is the "6,000" year time frame. It was brought up that the creation process of converting so much matter and energy would interfere with the space/time continuum and skew time.

Granted, I think it's a silly idea, but can you prove it wrong?

DMX7
08-21-2011, 11:58 AM
Just ask me a question and if I have heard the explanation, I will repeat it to my best ability. Don't ask me to recount all though.

One that sticks out is the "6,000" year time frame. It was brought up that the creation process of converting so much matter and energy would interfere with the space/time continuum and skew time.

Granted, I think it's a silly idea, but can you prove it wrong?

I have no clue what you're talking about, but it doesn't sound like a robust scientific theory.

It sounds more like a lazy thought which is essentially what creationism is.

ElNono
08-21-2011, 12:26 PM
Wait now.

Do you disagree that most parents will not attempt to teach their kids, their values?

Wait, did you say 'beliefs', and now you changed it to 'values'?

I see what you did there...

ElNono
08-21-2011, 01:07 PM
This is how you git r done:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/08/21/us/politics/donate-rick-perry.html

Wild Cobra
08-21-2011, 01:18 PM
I have no clue what you're talking about, but it doesn't sound like a robust scientific theory.

It sounds more like a lazy thought which is essentially what creationism is.
Hey, I don't agree with it either. However, it is a plausible explanation considering the accepted theories when dealing with space/time. We have no way of proving it right or wrong. To us, it is as silly of a notion as the idea of space travel, computers, etc. to our ancestors of multiple generations past.

What if someday we find we can bend space/time?

Wild Cobra
08-21-2011, 01:20 PM
Wait, did you say 'beliefs', and now you changed it to 'values'?

I see what you did there...
Let's say both.

ElNono
08-21-2011, 01:25 PM
Let's say both.

I agree with values, not necessarily agree with beliefs, tbh. Obviously, there's all sorts of parenting out there, so YMMV.

Wild Cobra
08-21-2011, 01:29 PM
I agree with values, not necessarily agree with beliefs, tbh. Obviously, there's all sorts of parenting out there, so YMMV.
You just saw an example of a parent pushing her belief.

Do you have kids?

Don't you try to instill both your beliefs and values upon them?

ElNono
08-21-2011, 01:29 PM
Hey, I don't agree with it either. However, it is a plausible explanation considering the accepted theories when dealing with space/time. We have no way of proving it right or wrong. To us, it is as silly of a notion as the idea of space travel, computers, etc. to our ancestors of multiple generations past.

What if someday we find we can bend space/time?

We already tested and know for a fact that the Earth changes space/time, and how it does it.

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/04may_epic/

You're a little late with your theorem, and obviously, I don't see that finding making scientists postulate your garbage theory as anything plausible.

ElNono
08-21-2011, 01:33 PM
You just saw an example of a parent pushing her belief.

Do you have kids?

Don't you try to instill both your beliefs and values upon them?

I don't have kids at the moment. My parents however instilled values, and taught me their religious beliefs, but didn't 'indoctrinate' me in them. (indoctrinate meaning 'accept a set of beliefs uncritically'). They let me decide what I wanted for myself, and to critically think and speak about it.
That's good parenting, IMO.

Wild Cobra
08-21-2011, 01:39 PM
We already tested and know for a fact that the Earth changes space/time, and how it does it.

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/04may_epic/

You're a little late with your theorem, and obviously, I don't see that finding making scientists postulate your garbage theory as anything plausible.
It's not my "garbage theory." To summarily toss out a scientific theory you cannot give cause to be wrong, is very unscientific.

ElNono
08-21-2011, 01:43 PM
It's not my "garbage theory." To summarily toss out a scientific theory you cannot give cause to be wrong, is very unscientific.

I just did 'give cause' to be wrong. Space and time has been bending throughout the last 6000+ years. It's a fact.

Wild Cobra
08-21-2011, 01:46 PM
I just did 'give cause' to be wrong. Space and time has been bending throughout the last 6000+ years. It's a fact.
I see you missed the point being made. Besides, you appear limited to believing space/time can only bend with gravity. Why are you close minded?

ElNono
08-21-2011, 01:53 PM
I see you missed the point being made.

I didn't miss a thing.


Besides, you appear limited to believing space/time can only bend with gravity.

link where I stated that?

lol closed minded

Wild Cobra
08-21-2011, 01:55 PM
I didn't miss a thing.



link where I stated that?

lol closed minded
By indication the NASA experiment shows the theory wrong.

You're a little late with your theorem, and obviously, I don't see that finding making scientists postulate your garbage theory as anything plausible.

DMX7
08-21-2011, 02:01 PM
We have no way of proving it right or wrong. To us, it is as silly of a notion as the idea of space travel, computers, etc. to our ancestors of multiple generations past.


So because it seems silly, it is therefore a valid possibility?

Blake
08-21-2011, 02:12 PM
So because it seems silly, it is therefore a valid possibility?

lol

Wild Cobra
08-21-2011, 02:28 PM
So because it seems silly, it is therefore a valid possibility?
I agree it is silly and not likely. However, that doesn't mean I have a closed mind to the possibility.

DMX7
08-21-2011, 03:08 PM
I agree it is silly and not likely. However, that doesn't mean I have a closed mind to the possibility.

Either way, being possible doesn't make it plausible, and more importantly, it doesn't make it science...



Now to her, it appears to me that believing in "creationism" is abandoning science.

DMC
08-21-2011, 04:53 PM
Just ask me a question and if I have heard the explanation, I will repeat it to my best ability. Don't ask me to recount all though.

One that sticks out is the "6,000" year time frame. It was brought up that the creation process of converting so much matter and energy would interfere with the space/time continuum and skew time.

Granted, I think it's a silly idea, but can you prove it wrong?

Non existential universal claims cannot be disproved. For example, you cannot disprove that a pink unicorn lives somewhere in the universe. I think it's a silly idea but can you prove it wrong?

There's no need to contemplate notions that are silly. If they are silly because you lack understanding, that's one thing and maybe you will overcome that with time, but if they are silly because they lack substance, that's another.

ElNono
08-21-2011, 05:13 PM
By indication the NASA experiment shows the theory wrong.

I asked for a link/quote where I stated that space/time can only fluctuate with gravity. Quote or it didn't happen.

ChuckD
08-21-2011, 05:23 PM
Maybe his former Secretary of State will come forward...

Wild Cobra
08-22-2011, 12:46 PM
I asked for a link/quote where I stated that space/time can only fluctuate with gravity. Quote or it didn't happen.
I was under the impression that your NASA experiment link was an indication that you meant only gravity can affect space/time. If I misunderstood you, I'm sorry.

Wild Cobra
08-22-2011, 12:51 PM
I don't have kids at the moment. My parents however instilled values, and taught me their religious beliefs, but didn't 'indoctrinate' me in them. (indoctrinate meaning 'accept a set of beliefs uncritically'). They let me decide what I wanted for myself, and to critically think and speak about it.
That's good parenting, IMO.
It also mean "To imbue with a partisan or ideological point of view." The idea doesn't have to be forced.

ElNono
08-22-2011, 01:15 PM
It also mean "To imbue with a partisan or ideological point of view." The idea doesn't have to be forced.

indoctrinate.

Synonyms
1. brainwash, propagandize.

You could simply say 'teach' and we wouldn't be having this conversation, tbh.

ElNono
08-22-2011, 04:30 PM
Rick Perry's Stem Cell Surgery Could lead to Quackery (http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/201135/20110820/rick-perry-s-stem-cell-surgery-could-lead-to-quackery.htm)

Wild Cobra
08-22-2011, 05:08 PM
Rick Perry's Stem Cell Surgery Could lead to Quackery (http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/201135/20110820/rick-perry-s-stem-cell-surgery-could-lead-to-quackery.htm)
Besides the idea of Quackery, what point are you making?

It's not uncommon for people have unconventional procedures.

ElNono
08-22-2011, 05:13 PM
Besides the idea of Quackery, what point are you making?

It's not uncommon for people have unconventional procedures.

I didn't write the piece, so I'm not making any point. I thought it was an interesting read.

Wild Cobra
08-22-2011, 05:24 PM
I didn't write the piece, so I'm not making any point. I thought it was an interesting read.
Well, excuse my bias, but my assumption is you intend to start a debate over stem cells, and how republicans are opposed to it.

ElNono
08-22-2011, 05:40 PM
Well, excuse my bias

Not excused.

And I'm just sharing something I thought was an interesting read. Feel free to skip it.

Wild Cobra
08-22-2011, 05:41 PM
Not excused.

And I'm just sharing something I thought was an interesting read. Feel free to skip it.
OK...

Just to clarify, you didn't bring it up because of the stem cells. Right?

ElNono
08-22-2011, 05:53 PM
Just to clarify, you didn't bring it up because of the stem cells. Right?


And I'm just sharing something I thought was an interesting read.

SnakeBoy
08-22-2011, 10:43 PM
Gallup: Romney Beating, Perry Even With Obama
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/gallup-romney-beating-perry-even-obama_590518.html

Perry/Obama 47/47. He was getting around 35% vs Obama a week ago. You guys better start finding more bones.

hitmanyr2k
08-23-2011, 12:19 AM
Perry/Obama 47/47. He was getting around 35% vs Obama a week ago. You guys better start finding more bones.

Polls this early are worthless. As of right now Rick is the male version of Sarah Palin '08...crap governing skills and dumber than a sack of hammers. Everyone is ooohing and ahhhing over the new guy but once his record and half-truths are put under a microscope and he gets the real heat and scrutiny of the national stage Rick Bush's campaign is gonna fold like a cheap lawn chair.

SnakeBoy
08-23-2011, 12:56 AM
his record and half-truths are put under a microscope

His record and half truths vs Obama's record and lies = President Perry, VP Romney & Secretary of Energy Palin...book it.

boutons_deux
08-23-2011, 10:02 AM
Rampant Denial About the Threat Posed By Christian Dominionists, Perry and Bachmann

Today's strange truth is the fact of the Christian dominionist influence on the beliefs of right-wing evangelicals, and in particular, on the worldviews of Rep. Michele Bachmann and Texas gov. Rick Perry, two top-tier contenders for the Republican presidential nomination.

Believe it or not, for progressive reporters, Miller's high-profile denial is something of a victory, for it means the work of investigative journalists for progressive publications is making its mark on the more mainstream outlets, as when the New Yorker's Ryan Lizza echoed Sarah Posner's reporting for Religion Dispatches in his profile of Bachmann, or when Michelle Goldberg built on the dogged research of Rachel Tabachnick (writing here for AlterNet) and others for her Daily Beast piece on dominionism's claim on both Perry and Bachmann.

http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/152133

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The crazies are running for real power. How virulently the dominionists react to Bachmann and Perry being outed as domininonists is an excellent indication that the outing hit it target. The dominionists don't want anybody to know about their conspiracy to transform USA into a "Christian" theocratic nightmare.

Right wing assholes and red states freak out out about Sharia and communism threats? :lol

CosmicCowboy
08-23-2011, 10:15 AM
Perry just scares the shit out of Obama.

clambake
08-23-2011, 10:25 AM
rick and momar.......cc's new bf's. lol

CosmicCowboy
08-23-2011, 10:27 AM
clambake

The wanna be chumpdumper

clambake
08-23-2011, 10:28 AM
you forgot to say "fuck you" lol

CosmicCowboy
08-23-2011, 10:32 AM
I'm just surprised that you Obama cocksuckers can't see how wonderful Gadhafi is. He accomplished everything Obama wants to do. He took money from the evil rich oil companies and gave the poor people free health care, free housing, free education, great unemployment benefits, etc. Really a man of the people.

DMX7
08-23-2011, 10:34 AM
You’re pathetic, CC. Reduced to supporting Gadhafi just to preemptively deny Obama of even partial credit for something that hasn’t even happened yet.

DMX7
08-23-2011, 10:36 AM
I'm just surprised that you Obama cocksuckers can't see how wonderful Gadhafi is. He accomplished everything Obama wants to do. He took money from the evil rich oil companies and gave the poor people free health care, free housing, free education, great unemployment benefits, etc. Really a man of the people.

He also kills his own people.

clambake
08-23-2011, 10:36 AM
yep, and fox news is struggling to avoid showing the peoples love for him. lol

CosmicCowboy
08-23-2011, 10:37 AM
You’re pathetic, CC. Reduced to supporting Gadhafi just to preemptively deny Obama of even partial credit for something that hasn’t even happened yet.

:lmao

Don't you want all those things?

cheguevara
08-23-2011, 10:37 AM
He accomplished everything Obama wants to do.

Yes, Obama wants to hijack commercial jets, destroy Israel's olympic teams, invade neighboring countries, arm Irish IRA, Colombian FARC and be best buddies with mother Russia. :lol

CosmicCowboy
08-23-2011, 10:38 AM
Don't you want to take money from the evil rich oil companies and give it to the poor people that deserve it?

clambake
08-23-2011, 10:39 AM
still mourning bin ladins death lol

cheguevara
08-23-2011, 10:39 AM
how similar Osama... I mean Obama is to Col Gaddafi. How can these blind Obama cocksuckers not see the facts?? :downspin:

ElNono
08-23-2011, 10:40 AM
Don't you want to take money from the evil rich oil companies and give it to the poor people that deserve it?

Like former Gov. Palin?

CosmicCowboy
08-23-2011, 10:41 AM
Like former Gov. Palin?

Well, if she's a joke is he a joke?

DMX7
08-23-2011, 10:41 AM
Like former Gov. Palin?

:lol

clambake
08-23-2011, 10:42 AM
Well, if she's a joke is he a joke?

actually, the jokes on you.

ElNono
08-23-2011, 10:43 AM
Well, if she's a joke is he a joke?

Neither are to be taken seriously, IMO.

CosmicCowboy
08-23-2011, 10:43 AM
actually, the jokes on you.

You guys should really get your sarcasm meters checked.

Looks like I kicked over the Obamacocksucker ant hill this morning.

clambake
08-23-2011, 10:44 AM
thinking about cock lol

DMX7
08-23-2011, 10:44 AM
Well, if she's a joke is he a joke?

She is a joke and so is Gaddafi (and guess again if you think that's where all the oil money has been going).

Obama has never said "let's take money from the oil companies and just hand out paychecks to people" like Palin. He's just asked to end their special tax credits. CC is too much of a partisan hack to see reality.

Way to PWN yourself though.

CosmicCowboy
08-23-2011, 10:46 AM
She is a joke and so is Gaddafi (and guess again if you think that's where all the oil money has been going).

Obama has never said "let's take money from the oil companies and just hand out paychecks to people" like Palin. He's just asked to end their special tax credits. CC is too much of a partisan hack to see reality.

Way to PWN yourself though.

LOL @ the uneducated partisan hack in the glass house throwing rocks.

clambake
08-23-2011, 10:53 AM
You guys should really get your sarcasm meters checked.

Looks like I kicked over the Obamacocksucker ant hill this morning....you see, when i get frustrated, i just think about cock

DMX7
08-23-2011, 11:00 AM
LOL @ the uneducated partisan hack in the glass house throwing rocks.

Aww.... You must be upset because you got PWNED again. :cry

CosmicCowboy
08-23-2011, 11:07 AM
Aww.... You must be upset because you got PWNED again. :cry


:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Laughing at the concept that you think you could pwn ANYONE.

You are the stupidest motherfucker in the political forum.

Boutons may be batshit crazy but you are just bumfucking stupid.

At least chump has some game and Clambake can fall back on his juvenile junior high cock quote alterations.

clambake
08-23-2011, 11:08 AM
cock this, cock that, daddy daddy

boutons_deux
08-23-2011, 11:15 AM
Loose Texas election rules give Perry financial edge

Two years ago, John McHale, an entrepreneur from Austin, Texas, who has given millions of dollars to Democratic candidates and causes, did something very unusual for him: He wrote a $50,000 check to a Republican candidate, Rick Perry, then seeking a third full term as governor of Texas. In September 2010, he did it again, catapulting himself into the top ranks of Perry’s donors.

Including, it turned out, for McHale’s business interests and partners. In May 2010, an economic development fund administered by the governor’s office handed $3 million to a pharmaceutical start-up called G-Con, a company that McHale helped get off the ground. At least two other business executives with connections to the firm had also given Perry tens of thousands of dollars.

http://mobile.boston.com/art/25/news/nation/articles/2011/08/21/perry_doles_out_grants_political_appointments_to_c ampaign_donors/

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TX taxpayer funds going to Perry political contributors.

CosmicCowboy
08-23-2011, 11:18 AM
You realize that Perry is just one of the people that has to sign off on economic stimulus grants, right?

boutons_deux
08-23-2011, 11:29 AM
You DO realize that Perry has deeply polluted, tainted, corrupted TX govt by HIS PEOPLE, right?

CosmicCowboy
08-23-2011, 11:40 AM
*yawn*

ChumpDumper
08-23-2011, 11:44 AM
You realize that Perry is just one of the people that has to sign off on economic stimulus grants, right?Who are the others who have to sign?

CosmicCowboy
08-23-2011, 11:48 AM
Who are the others who have to sign?

The Lieutenant Governor for sure and the Comptroller as I remember it. It's easy enough to check if you are interested.

*edit* Speaker of the House, not the Comptroller.

ElNono
08-23-2011, 11:53 AM
The Lieutenant Governor for sure and the Comptroller as I remember it. It's easy enough to check if you are interested.

Lieutenant Governor and Speaker of the House, actually. Earlier in this very same thread:


This is how you git r done:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/08/21/us/politics/donate-rick-perry.html

CosmicCowboy
08-23-2011, 11:56 AM
http://governor.state.tx.us/priorities/economy/investing_for_growth/texas_enterprise_fund/

ElNono
08-23-2011, 11:57 AM
IOW, David Dewhurst (R) and Joe Straus (R).

But this shouldn't be surprising. Most politicos on either party act the same way.

ChumpDumper
08-23-2011, 12:07 PM
Have any of them ever refused to sign a grant?

CosmicCowboy
08-23-2011, 12:11 PM
IOW, David Dewhurst (R) and Joe Straus (R).

But this shouldn't be surprising. Most politicos on either party act the same way.

No shit.

Obama sold GM to the UAW for a little over 4 million of 2008 Democratic contributions.

CosmicCowboy
08-23-2011, 12:12 PM
Have any of them ever refused to sign a grant?

Oh, I'm sure they have, and 75% of the grants went to companies that made no political contributions.

clambake
08-23-2011, 12:13 PM
saved a shit ton of jobs.

ChumpDumper
08-23-2011, 12:14 PM
Oh, I'm sure they haveHow are you sure? I'm talking about the others' voting against one Perry voted for.

CosmicCowboy
08-23-2011, 12:15 PM
saved a shit ton of jobs.

maybe, maybe not. We will never really know, will we?

clambake
08-23-2011, 12:16 PM
maybe, maybe not. We will never really know, will we?

they're still working. simple math.

ChumpDumper
08-23-2011, 12:16 PM
Maybe those jobs would have come to Texas without a government bribe. Maybe not. We will never know, will we?

CosmicCowboy
08-23-2011, 12:18 PM
they're still working. simple math.

Meh

Companies have reorganized in bankruptcy before and gone on as viable businesses.

CosmicCowboy
08-23-2011, 12:18 PM
Maybe those jobs would have come to Texas without a government bribe. Maybe not. We will never know, will we?

Nope, we won't will we?

And your point is?

ChumpDumper
08-23-2011, 12:19 PM
Nope, we won't will we?

And your point is?My point is maybe those jobs would have come to Texas without a government bribe. Maybe not. We will never know.

What part don't you understand?

CosmicCowboy
08-23-2011, 12:22 PM
My point is maybe those jobs would have come to Texas without a government bribe. Maybe not. We will never know.

What part don't you understand?

So we both agree that we should take a hard look at campaign reform which eliminates (currently legal) bribery on both sides of the aisle?

ChumpDumper
08-23-2011, 12:24 PM
So we both agree that we should take a hard look at campaign reform which eliminates bribery on both sides of the aisle?How has the conservative SCOTUS treated such reform efforts?

clambake
08-23-2011, 12:25 PM
its elementary.

CosmicCowboy
08-23-2011, 12:28 PM
How has the conservative SCOTUS treated such reform efforts?

They ruled that as far as political contributions (simplistically) corporations should be treated just like people.

Unfortunately, financing the electoral process by donations will always lend itself to abuse.

ChumpDumper
08-23-2011, 12:32 PM
They ruled that as far as political contributions (simplistically) corporations should be treated just like people.

Unfortunately, financing the electoral process by donations will always lend itself to abuse.You seem to be advocating public campaign financing.

CosmicCowboy
08-23-2011, 12:37 PM
You seem to be advocating public campaign financing.

I think it would be tempting to explore as long as the playing field could be leveled to give the challenger equal footing against the incumbent. Using the bully puppet of incumbency is just so hard to overcome. (see recent "fact finding" not "campaigning" bus tour exhibit one)

DMX7
08-23-2011, 01:20 PM
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Laughing at the concept that you think you could pwn ANYONE.

You are the stupidest motherfucker in the political forum.

Boutons may be batshit crazy but you are just bumfucking stupid.

At least chump has some game and Clambake can fall back on his juvenile junior high cock quote alterations.

Aww.... I can tell I'm under your skin. It hurts but you'll make it through, big guy. :lol

P.S. you really can't stop thinking about cock. Gross, fag.

boutons_deux
08-23-2011, 01:30 PM
Public financing is dead in the water. SCOTUS has ruled that UCA-corrupted elections are exercise of Free Speech.

boutons_deux
08-23-2011, 02:55 PM
Jimmy Ricky backing away from his book, just like he backed away from mandatory Gardisil

Perry campaign distances him from book’s call for repeal of 16th Amendment

Rick Perry’s campaign is now distancing him from another controversial claim in his book: That we should repeal the 16th Amendment and replace it with a “Fair Tax,” a radical idea that’s still rattling around in some precincts on the right.

Perry’s book, published in the fall of 2010, offered a range of policy prescriptions to deal with the problems he thinks are associated with the income tax. He proposed two alternatives: The first was to scrap the current tax code in favor of a “flat tax” to make taxaation “simpler, easier to follow, and harder to manipulate.”

The second, more controversial, proposal Perry advanced in the book was to “repeal the 16th Amendment” and “then pursue an alternative model of taxation such as a national sales tax or the Fair Tax.” He called the 16th Amendment “the great milestone on the road to serfdom” because it represented “the birth of wealth redistribution in the United States.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/perry-campaign-distances-him-from-books-call-for-repeal-of-16th-amendment/2011/03/03/gIQA9gkFZJ_blog.html

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What do you Jimmy Ricky suckers think about his book, which, of course, you read?

boutons_deux
08-23-2011, 04:01 PM
Rick Perry: Governor for Sale

Texas’s political system is also as brazenly capable of corruption by money and special interests as that in Washington, and unabashedly so.

Long before the Supreme Court decision in Citizens United allowed unlimited contributions to begin flowing into national super PACs, Texas had some of the most lax campaign finance laws anywhere. At the state level, there are no limits on the amount of money individuals can contribute to candidates, allowing wealthy donors to directly bankroll campaigns. In such an environment, Rick Perry didn’t just survive, he flourished. He didn’t just embrace the system, he shattered records with it, raising more than anyone in Texas history [7]. Indeed, for as long as Perry has been governor, the governor’s mansion has been ostensibly for sale.

Consider the numbers: Throughout his campaigns for governor, Perry raised $102 million, half of which came from just 204 sources [8]. According to the Los Angeles Times, nearly half of those donors [9] have received tax breaks, appointments or large business contracts. Half have received payments from two funds, sponsored by Perry, to funnel tax dollars to private business.

http://www.thenation.com/print/blog/162913/rick-perry-governor-sale

CosmicCowboy
08-23-2011, 04:26 PM
You can tell Perry scares the shit out of Obama.

He has his blogosphere attack dogs frothing at the mouth.

boutons_deux
08-23-2011, 04:33 PM
Jimmy Ricky needs to win the Repug power brokers and financiers before he scares anybody, other than scaring Willard.

Perry's too damn freaky, like pitbull bitch and Backmann, to win independents. Bible-thumping jerks and corrupt TX businessmen won't be enough.

SnakeBoy
08-23-2011, 04:33 PM
You can tell Perry scares the shit out of Obama.

He has his blogosphere attack dogs frothing at the mouth.

It's amazing how frantic they are isn't it.

boutons_deux
08-23-2011, 04:43 PM
Not frantic at all, just shooting a rotten fish in a barrel, opening the door so all those skeletons can fall out.

And Jimmy Ricky takes it seriously because he's flip-flopping and backing off his long history of bullshit statements, claims, positions, etc.

clambake
08-23-2011, 04:56 PM
You can tell Perry scares the shit out of Obama.

He has his blogosphere attack dogs frothing at the mouth.


It's amazing how frantic they are isn't it.

lol they're exactly like you guys. until now, you've been saying perry is shit.

looks like you guys are chin deep up into his shit now. lol

boutons_deux
08-24-2011, 04:48 AM
Conservative Criticism of Rick Perry's Corporate Cronyism

We recently reported on how Texas Governor Rick Perry has raked in remarkably large donations from business executives in exchange for governmental appointments and policy favors. Now even conservatives are criticizing Perry for putting the interests of corporations ahead of the public interest.

The conservative Washington Examiner lambasted Perry on Wednesday as a “cowboy corporatist.” Timothy Carney, who covers the intersection of corporate and political power for the Examiner, detailed how Perry created and ran the Texas Enterprise Fund and the Texas Emerging Technology Fund to hand over taxpayer money to private businesses. The nominal purpose is helping businesses expand in Texas or relocate there. Being a Perry donor is the surest route to winning a grant from one of these slush funds. Half of Perry’s “mega-donors” have gotten money. Examples include a $4.5 million grant to $80,000 Perry donor David Nance and poultry mogul Joe Sanderson, who gave Perry’s campaign $165,000, receiving $500,000 from the state government.

After eight years of crony capitalism under another recent Governor of Texas, it’s not only conservatives that Perry will have to worry about.

http://www.thenation.com/print/blog/162863/conservative-criticism-rick-perry-corporate-cronyism

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Non-Repugs exposing and objecting to Jimmy Ricky's corruption.

So it looks like Fox's "makers", in TX, are really "takers" of confiscated tax payer dollars. But of course, that's how govt "works" for Repugs and conservatives.

Destroy the safety net for poor "takers" so there are more taxpayer dollars for the wealthy "makers". aka, socialism for the wealthy.

boutons_deux
08-24-2011, 05:23 AM
Rick Perry vs. the Tea Party

Why Texas activists think their governor is all hat and no cattle when it comes to shrinking government.

"He sells himself on the right, he packages himself on the right, but if you look at the record, he's not conservative by any stretch."

61 percent of Texans voted against Perry in 2006 (he won in a four-way race), and when the University of Texas and the Texas Tribune polled the state this spring, just 4 percent said they'd like to see their governor run for president.

"Generally speaking, when you look at what he's done, he's a big-government, micromanage your family, micromanage your business ideologue,"

Under Perry, the Lone Star State has borrowed more and more—going from $13 billion in debt when he took office in 2000, to $38 billion by 2008. "Gov. Perry has done exactly what the tea party is hollering at Washington,

Much of the conservative criticism of Perry comes down to the fact that he's a corporatist conservative less concerned about the 10th Amendment principles than he lets on. But then again: For the rest of the party, that's kind of the appeal.

http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/08/rick-perry-tea-party

boutons_deux
08-24-2011, 03:35 PM
Rick Perry Vows to Defund Planned Parenthood

The pledge has four parts:

* a promise only to pick federal judges who adhere to the strict "original meaning of the Constitution,"

* to "select only pro-life appointees" for attorney general and assorted posts at the National Institutes of Health, Justice Department and Department of Health & Human Services.

* to defund Planned Parenthood and any other organization that performs or funds abortions and to end all taxpayer funding of abortion, domestically or overseas and

* to sign into law the "Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act," to ban abortion based on the premise that fetuses can feel pain.

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/08/rick-perry-vows-defund-planned-parenthood

Wild Cobra
08-24-2011, 03:36 PM
So?

A president gets to attempt an agenda.

Think he could get congress to craft such bills?

ChuckD
08-24-2011, 06:43 PM
So?

A president gets to attempt an agenda.

Think he could get congress to craft such bills?

Nope. It'll never happen. The minute abortion is outlawed, the Fundies lose all interest in politics, and the GOP goes in the tank. Why else do you think that with a sitting GOP fundamentalist President, both Houses of Congress strongly GOP for six years, and a stacked SCOTUS that abortion is STILL legal in the US?

boutons_deux
08-25-2011, 08:15 AM
there’s not going to be a Social Security and Medicare program

there’s not going to be a Social Security and Medicare programhttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/24/1010135/-Rick-Perry-says-there%E2%80%99s-not-going-to-be-a-Social-Security-and%C2%A0Medicare%C2%A0program

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that's superb vote-getting position.

He's dumber than dubya. In TX, no matter how dumb you are, as long as you have money.

boutons_deux
08-25-2011, 04:21 PM
Four Thoughts About Rick Perry’s Four-Point Health Care Plan

1) Work with Congress to repeal “Obamacare”: The Congressional Budget Office estimates that eliminating the law would increase the deficit by $230 billion over 10 years, raise the number of uninsured by 32 million, eliminate subsidies and force millions of American families to pay higher premiums, and increase premiums for employer-based coverage.

2) Stabilize the country’s economy for employers, “free states from federal mandates and empower them to develop innovative solutions”: Perry had 11 years to develop an “innovative” state solution, but all we see from his tenure is skyrocketing uninsurance rates in Texas and premiums that are higher than the national average. Still, some states are genuinely interested in lowering costs and expanding coverage, and the Affordable Care Act allows them to do just that — it waives some of the requirements of the law and permits states to design their own reforms, as long as they can meet the same coverage and cost benchmarks.

3) Lower skyrocketing health care costs “through the proven, market-based strategies of transparency, choice and competition”: Again, it’s unclear what kind of policy he’s proposing, since the insurance exchanges that are part of the Affordable Care Act already offer “choice and competition.” But if past Republican proposals are any indication, he’s likely considering allowing insurers to circumvent state consumer protections and sell their policies across state lines. Under this approach, companies would have little incentive to do business in states that require coverage for cancer screenings or have guaranteed issue protections and will instead sell plans across the country that deny coverage altogether to high-cost beneficiaries.

4) Implement Texas-style health care reform: The current health care law already includes similar demonstration projects, even if the Congressional Budget Office has concluded that malpractice reforms could at most save $54 billion over 10 years. When Texas capped non-economic medical malpractice damages to $250,000 in 2003, most conservatives argued that the reform would free doctors from having to prescribe unnecessary treatment to avoid lawsuits. It didn’t work out that way. In fact, Texas’ Medicare spending seems to have actually gone up faster than the nation’s since 2003.

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011/08/25/304090/four-thoughts-about-rick-perrys-four-point-health-care-plan/

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Jimmy Ricky is just dumb as fuck, just like his bubba supporters.

FromWayDowntown
08-25-2011, 06:45 PM
So?

A president gets to attempt an agenda.

Think he could get congress to craft such bills?

Wait, I thought things like abortion were issues that conservatives wanted to see reserved to the States.

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/07/28/rick-perry-abortion-is-a-states-rights-issue/

boutons_deux
08-26-2011, 04:14 AM
The key base that Jimmy Ricky panders to with this praying bullshit:

Tea Party Moves to Ban Books

[Tea Party members] were disproportionately social conservatives in 2006 - opposing abortion, for example - and still are today. Next to being a Republican, the strongest predictor of being a Tea Party supporter today was a desire, back in 2006, to see religion play a prominent role in politics. And Tea Partiers continue to hold these views: they seek "deeply religious" elected officials, approve of religious leaders' engaging in politics and want religion brought into political debates. The Tea Party's generals may say their overriding concern is a smaller government, but not their rank and file, who are more concerned about putting God in government.

One measure of how emboldened the religious right is at any point in time is looking at book challenges and censorship in local schools.

Last month ThinkProgress reported that a Missouri high school had banned Kurt Vonnegut's classic novel Slaughterhouse Five because religious residents complained that it taught principles contrary to the Bible. Now the American Library Association reports that this year alone, US schools have banned more than 20 books and faced more than 50 other challenges, with many more expected this fall as school starts ...

While parents have traditionally launched the lion's share of challenges, Deborah Caldwell-Stone, an attorney with the association, says she has noticed "an uptick in organised efforts" to remove books from public and school libraries.

But attacking books shows that this isn't about the religious right being concerned that kids' minds are being numbed. It shows that they're worried kids' minds aren't being numbed enough!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/aug/24/tea-party-banning-books

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Yep, the tea baggers want everybody, starting with kids, dumbed down and ignorant enough to be passive, robotic, unthinking consumers and suckers for the UCA predations and shitty products.

boutons_deux
08-26-2011, 05:18 AM
:lol :lol :lol :lol

"Have you read my book, Fed Up!? Get a copy and read it."

Four days later, Perry's campaign had reconsidered its pitch; his communications director, Ray Sullivan, issued a clarification to reporters that Fed Up! was not intended to serve as a blueprint for the Perry presidency, and that the most radical ideas proposed within—the repeal of Social Security, Medicare, and the 16th Amendment—weren't meant to be serious proposals.

http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/08/rick-perry-book-club

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:lol :lol :lol

boutons_deux
08-26-2011, 05:43 AM
Perry get $100Ks for letting rigging state law to allow a radioactive waste storage over the Ogallala aquifer

Why Perry Hates Regulators: They’re Bad for (His) Business

Harold Simmons, a Dallas mega-billionaire industrialist who has donated well over a million dollars to Perry’s campaign committees recently. With Perry’s eager assistance—and despite warnings from Texas environmental officials—Simmons has gotten approval to build an enormous radioactive waste dump over a crucial underground water supply.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/print/why_perry_hates_regulators_theyre_bad_for_his_busi ness_20110825/

boutons_deux
08-26-2011, 09:58 AM
Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry characterized the nation's capital as a "seedy place."

"Look, I am not an establishment figure, never have been and frankly I don't want to be," said the Texas governor. "I dislike Washington."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/26/rick-perry-washington-seedy_n_937837.html

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But he wants to be President of the establishment and reign over seedy Washington, which of course will become unseedy due to Jimmy Ricky's good-faith/for-ALL-the-people governance.

As if Jimmy Ricky's pay-to-play/quid-pro-quo corrupt/bankrupt TX wasn't seedy.

Winehole23
08-26-2011, 12:23 PM
During the special session, SB 1 Article 79A made peace officer travel vouchers and reimbursement records confidential for a period of 18 months for members of the security details of state elected officials. This is all about Rick Perry not wanting to release his schedule to the public or tell them where he's been, who he's visited, etc., until long after the information would be useful to anyone performing a watchdog function. Attorney General Greg Abbott had already said those records from the Governor's office could be concealed, but this bill closes a back door reporters had used to try to access the information anyway. Absolutely absurd that voters can't know where the Governor went on their dime until 18 months after the fact, and downright pathetic IMO that the Governor would seek such an exception, much less that the Legislature would grant it.http://gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.com/2011/08/small-counties-can-live-off-speed-traps.html

FromWayDowntown
08-26-2011, 12:28 PM
Entirely unsurprising that the Texas Legislature would grant that sort of an exception. I'm a bit surprised that Governor Perry and his staff wouldn't have just waited for the lapdog majority at the Texas Supreme Court to slam that door after holding the case long enough to ensure that nothing damaging was ever revealed, but I suppose if you can get the Legislature to make a special law for you, all the better.

boutons_deux
08-26-2011, 02:06 PM
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/08/rick-perry-pledges-investigate-intimidation-gay-marriage-foes

On Wednesday, Texas Governor Rick Perry signed a pledge to defund Planned Parenthood if elected President. On Thursday, he promised never to vacation in Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts. On Friday, he kept the streak alive by signing another pledge—this one from the National Organization for Marriage (NOM)—to support a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. But the pledge actually goes much further than that, committing signees to a "appoint a presidential commission to investigate harassment of traditional marriage supporters," among other things. Here's what's in it:

Support and send to the states a federal marriage amendment defining marriage as one man and one woman,
Defend DOMA [the Defense of Marriage Act] in court,
Appoint judges and an attorney general who will respect the original meaning of the Constitution,
Appoint a presidential commission to investigate harassment of traditional marriage supporters,
Support legislation that would return to the people of D.C. their right to vote for marriage.


http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/08/rick-perry-pledges-investigate-intimidation-gay-marriage-foes

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Same old Repug/bubba/"Christian"-hater shit.

NOTHING about getting people back to work.

CosmicCowboy
08-26-2011, 02:24 PM
:lmao @ Boutons foaming at the mouth.

boutons_deux
08-26-2011, 02:45 PM
Jimmy Ricky is a corrupt extremist far to the right of most Americans.

Defend your loser.

Winehole23
08-26-2011, 02:57 PM
I'm a bit surprised that Governor Perry and his staff wouldn't have just waited for the lapdog majority at the Texas Supreme Court to slam that door after holding the case long enough to ensure that nothing damaging was ever revealed, but I suppose if you can get the Legislature to make a special law for you, all the better.I heard there's three and one half Texas counties not observing a burn ban right now.

I hope you live in one of them. :toast

boutons_deux
08-28-2011, 06:35 AM
The macho ignorance, a bubba speciality, continues

Perry Says He Hasn’t ‘Backed Off Anything’ In His Book, Still Thinks Social Security Is Unconstitutional

KEYES: But should states-rights supporters be worried that, as governor you said that Social Security is not something that falls in the purview of the federal government, but in your campaign, have backed off that?

PERRY: I haven’t backed off anything in my book. Read the book again, get it right. Next question.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/08/27/306126/rick-perry-social-security-still-unconstitutional/

boutons_deux
08-28-2011, 07:38 AM
What bones is he hiding?

Perry has woven shroud of secrecy as Texas governor

Now, as Gov. Rick Perry embarks on a presidential campaign, it's unlikely the public will access records that provide any revealing details about his decadelong tenure as governor. While Perry extols open government — most recently challenging Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke to “open the books” of the nation's central bank — he has adopted policies that shroud his own office in a purposeful opaqueness that confounds prying reporters — or any member of the public questioning his policies.


Over the past decade, the Perry administration has withheld information in response to some 100 open records requests, instead seeking review by the Texas attorney general's office. In two cases in the past year, Perry's office acknowledges it failed to meet legal deadlines for responding to the requests, or otherwise delayed in violation of well-established procedures outlined in the Texas Public Information Act.

Most of the withheld documents involved contracts, bidding and oversight of programs in which state money flows to entrepreneurs, privately held companies and universities from Perry's two economic development funds, the Emerging Technology Fund and the Texas Enterprise Fund.

In some cases, the requests involve entities headed by Perry campaign donors and political appointees. Perry also chose to withhold information when third parties complained they would release proprietary information or violate trade secrets.

Among the information withheld from public view were communications between Amazon and the governor and his staff concerning the company's recent dispute with the state of Texas over a $269 million sales tax bill.

Read more: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Perry-has-wovenshroud-of-secrecyas-Texas-governor-2144596.php#ixzz1WKJVSvc5

boutons_deux
08-28-2011, 11:14 AM
How the Texas Governor Created His State's Budget Crisis

He Was Warned
"As of this moment, this legislation is a staggering $23 billion short of the funds needed to pay for the promised property tax cuts over the next five years. … These are conservative estimates."
—Texas Comptroller Carole Strayhorn, warning Gov. Rick Perry about his 2006 tax reform proposal

Thus far, 12,000 teachers have been laid off. Add to that roughly 6,000 state employees cashiered because of budget cuts, a figure that doesn't include university professors and other university employees who will lose their jobs because of the $1.2 billion cut from higher ed funding.

Medicaid payments to doctors and hospitals were cut, and the final four months of Medicaid payments in fiscal year 2012 were not funded.

Taxpayers in Texas also wrote checks to mortgage bankers, while the bankers booked huge profits on the subprime home-loans that foundered the economy in 2007.

Countrywide Home Loans got $20 million in 2004, on a commitment of 7,500 jobs. It created 3,876. Then the bottom fell out of the housing market, Countrywide was charged with defrauding its clients, and was acquired by Bank of America. It has agreed to return 40 percent of its $20 million. By July 2011, the Countrywide loan portfolio, underwritten in part by Texas taxpayers, had cost Bank of America more than 50 percent of its share value.

Texas taxpayers also gave Washington Mutual $15 million in 2005, to open a new $50 million facility in San Antonio. At the time the deal was announced, WaMu had $300 billion in assets, $188 billion in deposits, and 43,000 employees. It was also in the process of dumping its 30-year-fixed-rate mortgage portfolio to clear the books for high-risk subprime loans.

"Those were really negative investments," Baylor said. "You financed toxic financial products that sucked equity and wealth out of hundreds of thousands of people, not only in Texas, but nationwide."

WaMu also consistently missed its job targets. TPJ found that the governor's office amended its contract, allowing aggregated part-time jobs to count as full-time jobs.

http://www.washingtonspectator.org/articles/20110901budgethustle.cfm

Kamala
08-28-2011, 03:33 PM
"A theory that's out there" Perry is too much of a cunt to be a prick!:lmao:lmao:lmao

boutons_deux
08-28-2011, 04:29 PM
Human-Americans in vast majorities don't want SS touched, as dubya's privatization attempt exposed. goddam, Perry is dumber than a bag of hammers.

Perry calls Social Security 'monstrous lie'

Riding high in the polls, Gov. Rick Perry rode into Iowa on Saturday with tough talk on President Obama, the economy and foreign policy and a declaration that Social Security is not only a Ponzi scheme but a "monstrous lie" for younger people.

"If you're for the status quo in America, I'm not your guy," (which is of course a HUGE LIE)

"To be fair, President Obama inherited a bad economy, but he sure made it worse," contended Perry, who offered general suggestions for improvement such as limiting and simplifying taxes and the need to "quit spending money we don't have."

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Perry-calls-Social-Security-a-monstrous-lie-for-2144460.php

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Some details, Jimmy Ricky, how about some details, specifically how Barry made the cratered economy worse? Just another unsubstantiated red meat morsel thrown to the fatass, ignorant bubbas.

boutons_deux
08-29-2011, 08:52 AM
Perry Says Social Security Is No Longer A ‘Retirement Program’ But Simply A ‘Tax’

QUESTIONER: The current administration. Especially lately I’ve noticed on TV that’s what they’re promoting it as. The question is, that what it originally started out to be is not an entitlement program, Americans who are working, putting money into it…

PERRY: It was a retirement program, and actually it’s turned into a tax now.

Perry completely ignores that Social Security has been, arguably, the most important social program that the country has implemented, causing poverty amongst seniors to plummet. Without Social Security benefits, almost half of Americans over the age of 65 would be living in poverty; with Social Security, fewer than 10 percent of seniors are actually living below the poverty line. Social Security is especially important for Hispanic, African-American, and female retirees.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/08/29/306347/rick-perry-social-security-tax/

boutons_deux
08-29-2011, 09:14 AM
Jimmy Ricky, some facts about Barry's economy vs dubya's economy?

3 Reality-Based Charts Your Right-Wing Relatives Will Have a Hard Time Ignoring

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6080/6088811201_96839c6977.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6199/6089355018_3eea3fa4be.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6071/6088811219_7177d24faa.jpg

http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/152201

FromWayDowntown
08-29-2011, 09:21 AM
Without feeding the Boutons monster, it's things like this that have always baffled me:


"To be fair, President Obama inherited a bad economy, but he sure made it worse," contended Perry, who offered general suggestions for improvement such as limiting and simplifying taxes and the need to "quit spending money we don't have."

Governor Perry has long been an advocate in general but rarely a devotee of details. Perhaps that will play in Peoria, so to speak, in a populous that seems taken by soundbites and policy debates that are staked out in broad strokes. But I'm curious to see if anyone is going to press him for those details as the campaign wears on -- either someone in the press or a rival -- or whether the glib generalities will be left alone. I'm not suggesting that Governor Perry doesn't have details, only that if he has them, he's not terribly forthcoming with them.

boutons_deux
08-29-2011, 09:41 AM
Very wise decision, don't fuck with the Boutons monster

As a States’ Rights Stalwart, Perry Draws Doubts

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/08/29/us/PERRY-2/PERRY-2-articleLarge.jpg


Though the governor has a claim to acting on these principles, he has come to publicly embrace states’ rights as a defining issue only in the past few years, a period when the 10th Amendment has been a rallying cry for many Tea Party supporters, libertarians and others who make up his party’s conservative base. And he has been inconsistent in applying those beliefs, drawing criticism from some states’ rights advocates and raising questions even among fellow Republicans about whether his stance is as much campaign positioning as a philosophical commitment.

In one of his more well-publicized shifts, Mr. Perry proclaimed that gay marriage was an issue for individual states to decide, but backtracked in recent weeks and now says he supports a federal amendment banning gay marriage. He has also signaled support for various federal actions to restrict abortion rather than leaving the issue to states. And he used $17 billion in federal stimulus money to balance the state’s last two budgets.

In one of his more well-publicized shifts, Mr. Perry proclaimed that gay marriage was an issue for individual states to decide, but backtracked in recent weeks and now says he supports a federal amendment banning gay marriage. He has also signaled support for various federal actions to restrict abortion rather than leaving the issue to states. And he used $17 billion in federal stimulus money to balance the state’s last two budgets.

At the Republican Leadership Conference in June, Mr. Perry said that while government plays an important role in helping a city recover from a disaster, “the real recovery” stems from hard-working individuals. Unfortunately, he added, Mr. Obama believed government was the answer to every need, a sign of the “arrogance and audacity” of the White House.

Three weeks earlier, in a letter to Mr. Obama, Mr. Perry struck a different tone as wildfires ravaged Texas. The Federal Emergency Management Agency had approved grants to reimburse some of the local and state costs of fighting the fires, but Mr. Perry was seeking the additional federal aid that comes from a presidential disaster declaration. “Your favorable consideration of this appeal would be greatly appreciated,” the governor wrote to the president, who ultimately granted Mr. Perry’s request.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/29/us/politics/29perry.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss&pagewanted=print

Jimmy Ricky: "All y'all bubba suckers, vote as I say, not as I do"

boutons_deux
08-29-2011, 10:08 AM
President Ron Paul wouldn't have given TX any federal fire relief/fighting funds.

He'd just say "Ayn Rand told me to tell all y'all to quit living and farming where's there's fires (or rivers, or hurricanes, or tornadoes)"

Wild Cobra
08-29-2011, 11:30 AM
Perry Says Social Security Is No Longer A ‘Retirement Program’ But Simply A ‘Tax’

QUESTIONER: The current administration. Especially lately I’ve noticed on TV that’s what they’re promoting it as. The question is, that what it originally started out to be is not an entitlement program, Americans who are working, putting money into it…

PERRY: It was a retirement program, and actually it’s turned into a tax now.

Perry completely ignores that Social Security has been, arguably, the most important social program that the country has implemented, causing poverty amongst seniors to plummet. Without Social Security benefits, almost half of Americans over the age of 65 would be living in poverty; with Social Security, fewer than 10 percent of seniors are actually living below the poverty line. Social Security is especially important for Hispanic, African-American, and female retirees.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/08/29/306347/rick-perry-social-security-tax/
And that is the fact as I see it.

There is no separate "trust fund." All the excesses over the years have been spent on government functions supported by taxes.

RandomGuy
08-29-2011, 11:49 AM
Dang, boutons is on a roll. :wow

It will be a fun fun election if Perry gets the nod.

boutons_deux
08-29-2011, 12:03 PM
And that is the fact as I see it.

There is no separate "trust fund." All the excesses over the years have been spent on government functions supported by taxes.

SS holds US govt bonds. SS is just another "investor" in the USA.

So you think the govt will default only on the SS bonds but not default on the super-wealthy's and China's bonds?

boutons_deux
08-29-2011, 12:09 PM
Timeline: Rick Perry’s Shifting Positions On The Constitutionality Of Medicare and Social Security


Nov. 6, 2010: In an interview on CNN, Perry proposes letting states opt their citizens out of Social Security. This proposal is economically impossible to implement, because workers who are too young to receive Social Security benefits would move to an opt-out state to avoid paying Social Security taxes — and then promptly move to a state with Social Security benefits the moment they became eligible. Eventually, the entire system would collapse under the weight of too many Social Security beneficiaries who had not paid into the system.

Nov. 15, 2010: Perry publishes Fed Up!, his manifesto against letting the federal government do pretty much anything other than invade foreign nations and maybe deliver the mail. Fed Up! attacks Supreme Court cases permitting “federal laws regulating the environment, regulating guns, protecting civil rights, establishing the massive programs and Medicare and Medicaid, creating national minimum wage laws, [and] establishing national labor laws,” and it argues that we have Social Security “at the expense of respect for the Constitution and limited government.”

Aug. 12, 2011: The Daily Beast publishes an interview with Perry from shortly after he released his book. In it, Perry reiterates his view that Medicare and Social Security violate the Constitution. “I don’t think our founding fathers when they were putting the term ‘general welfare’ in there were thinking about a federally operated program of pensions nor a federally operated program of health care. What they clearly said was that those were issues that the states need to address.”

Aug. 13, 2011: Perry announces that he is running for president. His campaign announcement echoes a central theme of Fed Up!, that Perry is on a mission to set America “free from the shackles of overbearing federal government.”

Aug. 14, 2011: At his very first campaign stop in Iowa, Perry is asked how he would handle entitlement programs such as Social Security and Medicare if elected president. Perry responds, “Have you read my book, ‘Fed Up!’ Get a copy and read it.”

Aug. 15, 2011: Perry cites Fed Up! again on the campaign trail, this time pointing to the book’s harsh stance on federal education programs. “I don’t think the federal government has a role in your children’s education.”

Aug. 18, 2011: Angry protestors confront Perry at a campaign stop in a New Hampshire restaurant with chants of “hands off Social Security and Medicare!” When a voter reminds Perry that he “said Social Security is unconstitutional,” Perry refuses to respond. Instead, he stuffs a large piece of popover — a hollow egg batter roll similar to a Yorkshire pudding — into his mouth and insists that he can’t answer because “I’ve got a big mouthful.”

Later That Day: Perry’s communications director Ray Sullivan tells the Wall Street Journal that “‘Fed Up!’ is not meant to reflect the governor’s current views” on Social Security and that Perry’s nine month-old book is “not in any way [] a 2012 campaign blueprint or manifesto.”

Aug. 27, 2011: Perry undisavows Fed Up!. At a campaign stop in Iowa, ThinkProgress’ Scott Keyes asks Perry whether states-rights supporters should be worried that “as governor you said that Social Security is not something that falls in the purview of the federal government, but in your campaign, [you] have backed off that.” Perry is incredulous at the suggestion that his communications director’s nine day-old statement disavowing Fed Up! actually reflects the governor’s current views. “I haven’t backed off anything in my book. Read the book again, get it right. Next question.”

Five Minutes Later: Perry un-undisavows Fed Up!. Just a few short minutes after re-embracing Fed Up!‘s claim that Social Security is unconstitutional, Perry tries to distance himself from this view once again. “Those that have said that I said [Medicare and Social Security are] unconstitutional, I’m going to have them read the book. That’s not what I said.”

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/08/29/306314/rick-perry-shifting-positions-medicare-ss/

CosmicCowboy
08-29-2011, 12:12 PM
Boutons...


Where the fuck do you think that they are going to get the CASH to pay off those bonds?

Washington pissed away the "trust fund" and is hooked on the spending crack. The only way they can pay those obligations is to go cold turkey and start spending less than they take in which will NEVER happen.

boutons_deux
08-29-2011, 12:18 PM
"Where the fuck do you think that they are going to get the CASH to pay off those bonds?"

Same place they get all that cash to run two wars and subsidize the MIC and BigPharma?

boutons_deux
08-29-2011, 01:05 PM
'Fed Up!' is likely to haunt campaign


The walk-back on Gov. Rick Perry's book “Fed Up!” began in earnest last week, but soon we might need to see a walk-back on the walk-back.


I thought from the time I read it that Perry's book should have been titled “Why I Should Not Be President.” As more people realize what he wants to do to Social Security, for example, the fear among seniors, who vote in consistent numbers, will only grow.

the governor gives every indication on Page 175 that the book is, well, a campaign blueprint or manifesto.

“Here are the steps we must take,” Perry writes, “to wrest the reins of the federal government from those who have let it run wild for far too long — some specific, and some general:”

What follows is a five-point path forward that begins with “Repeal Obamacare” and ends with “Adopt Certain Important Structural Reforms.” It tracks closely with his campaign rhetoric so far.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/news_columnists/scott_stroud/article/Fed-Up-is-likely-to-haunt-campaign-2144597.php

boutons_deux
08-29-2011, 01:21 PM
Perry endorses concept of preemptive strike at VFW conference

Gov. Rick Perry endorsed an aggressive foreign policy doctrine, including support for the concept of preemptive strikes, in his welcoming remarks this morning at the Veterans of Foreign Wars national convention in San Antonio.

Speaking to thousands of registrants and veterans at the Henry B. Gonzalez Convention Center, Perry also strongly defended the United States’ unilateral powers in declaring war.

“We must renew our commitment to taking the fight to the enemy, wherever they are, before they strike at home,” Perry said.

Perry identifies a number of countries and issues that “require our attention and investment in defense capabilities.” His list includes China, India, and “leftists in Latin America” such as Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez, in addition to the usual list of rogue states, which includes North Korea and Iran.

http://blog.chron.com/rickperry/2011/08/3418/

===

Yep, dumb as shit. Americans are just loving endless wars and the 1000s of military and $Ts wasted fighting them.

Go, Jimmy Ricky, Go!

The MIC loves paranoia (and the $Ts it sucks out of taxpayers)!

boutons_deux
08-29-2011, 08:57 PM
Letter to Gov. Rick Perry on Social Security Comments

Written by Dean Baker
Monday, 29 August 2011 15:45

The Honorable Rick Perry
Office of the Governor
State Insurance Building
1100 San Jacinto
Austin, TX 78711-2428

Dear Governor Perry,

When asked about Social Security during a recent campaign stop in Iowa, you said:

"It is a Ponzi scheme for these young people. The idea that they're working and paying into Social Security today, that the current program is going to be there for them, is a lie," Perry said. "It is a monstrous lie on this generation, and we can't do that to them."

With all due respect, this is not true. The recommendations of the National Commission on Social Security Reform in 1983 led to the growth of a large surplus in Social Security. This surplus was used to buy bonds and now Social Security holds more than $2.6 trillion in government bonds. As a result, the Congressional Budget Office’s projections show that the program will maintain full solvency through the year 2038.

Even if Congress never makes any changes to the program, Social Security will be able to pay slightly more than 80 percent of scheduled benefits from then on. This means, for example, that if your children — currently 28 and 25, respectively — were to retire at age 67 and do as well as you have in their working careers, they would receive $38,145 and $39,410 (in 2011 dollars) each, every year, for the rest of their lives. It is clearly inaccurate to say that this program will not exist for young people.

With Social Security sure to be a topic of debate over the course of your campaign, I hope you and your staff will have the opportunity to further review the design and finances of the program. If you would like any additional background on the program, I would be happy to assist you.

http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/social-security-monitor/letter-to-gov-rick-perry-on-social-security-comments?utm_source=CEPR+feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+cepr+%28CEPR%29

DMX7
08-29-2011, 10:15 PM
Dean Baker has clearly forgotten that Rick Perry, like just about all republicans, is not interested in facts or reality. Both are entirely too inconvenient.

boutons_deux
08-31-2011, 05:08 AM
5 Absurd Rick Perry Claims That Show His Tea-Party Infused Aversion to Reality

Texas Governor Rick Perry has ridden into the GOP presidential race on his high horse, threatening to ‘get ugly’ with Ben Bernanke, the Federal Reserve Chairman, stopping just short of accusing him of treason, and catering, as expected, to the most radical of the radical right wing.

Mr. Perry, for some bizarre reason, has captured the twisted imaginations of those who combine a brand of Christianity that Jesus Christ wouldn’t recognize, with a heavy worship of capitalism, and an irrational fear of anyone not white, Anglo-Saxon Protestant thrown in for good measure.

As he goes about spreading hate and intolerance, both of which play so well to the Tea Party, Mr. Perry often chooses to relinquish facts; again, a trait welcome to the far right wing. This is displayed in a variety of ways that can be seen by looking at some of the governor’s ‘accomplishments’ and statements, as taken from the ‘Perry for President’ website:

“Rick Perry will finally force Washington to fulfill its constitutional duty to secure our international borders.”

One of the Tea Party’s pet peeves is illegal immigration, that dastardly practice of allowing immigrants to slip through the extensive U.S. borders, especially that with Mexico, thus enabling them to wreak untold amounts of havoc as they bus tables, work on construction crews, and cut grass.

In Januray of 2011, a U.S. missionary couple, Sam and Nancy Davis, working in Mexico, were pursued by bandits, possibly seeking to steal their truck, valued at $50,000. As Mr. Davis tried to flee, the bandits began shooting, hitting and killing Mrs. Davis. In response, Mr. Perry’s spokeswoman, Katherine Cesinger, said Mrs. Davis’ murder underscores the need for greater border security. “’How many Americans are going to have to die for the federal government to pay attention and realize they need to secure the border,’ she said.”

The fact that this tragic shooting occurred at least 70 miles south of the Mexican/US border does not seem to concern Mr. Perry. He did not comment on crime in Mexico; the danger of driving flashy vehicles through areas known for criminal activity; the folly and accompanying risks of attempting to outrun murderous car thieves, etc. No, he seemed to see a crime that occurred in Mexico as demonstrating the need to ‘secure the border.’ Perhaps he is blaming the Davises for crossing into Mexico; after all, one must assume that if the border is ‘secure,’ no one could pass from either side to the other.

“No other candidate for President – Republican or Democrat – can match Rick Perry’s record on job creation.”

The website goes on to say that 40% of new jobs created in the U.S. since June of 2009 have been in Texas. This may be true, but one must not consider rushing off to Texas to achieve the great American dream(whatever that is). Most of those jobs pay minimum wage, and few carry health benefits. Also, industry has been attracted to Texas due to its limited environmental and safety regulations, bringing these businesses from other U.S. states. So if a voter wants to see reduced environmental and safety regulations made the law of the land, and seeks the creation of millions of jobs that pay minimum wage, Mr. Perry is the right candidate. So what if people will not be able to own homes, send their children to college, or get medical care? At least they will be working!

“Rick Perry believes the best way for the federal government to improve healthcare is to stimulate job creation so more Americans are covered by employer-sponsored health plans.”

One wonders how job creation is related to employer-sponsored health plans. A generation ago, health care was one of the standard benefits offered to employees; this has not been the case for years. Anyone who has been employed by a large corporation in the last 25 years is familiar with co-pays, deductibles, exclusion clauses, endless paperwork, etc. Employers are under no obligation to provide health care to their employees.

Also, with all the jobs Mr. Perry claims to have created in Texas, he might notice that most of them do not include health care. Why, one might reasonably ask, should he be trusted to provide this miracle to the entire United States, when he has failed to do so in Texas?

“If elected, Perry will repeal Obamacare.”

And, one presumes, cross his fingers and hope that employers decide to provide medical coverage to all employees. One wonders what color the sky is on Mr. Perry’s planet.

“Rick Perry believes in American exceptionalism.”

Although interpreted in different ways, American exceptionalism is a throwback to ‘Manifest Destiny,’ that belief that the United States was divinely ordained to run roughshod over the rest of the world, making up rules as it went along that only other nations need follow; violate them at their peril.

Mr. Perry “rejects the notion our president should apologize for our country but instead believes allies and adversaries alike must know that America seeks peace from a position of strength. We must strengthen our diplomatic relationships, and stand firm with our allies against our common enemies.”

So when the U.S. embarks on a military misadventure that its major allies shun, then causes a civil war which kills hundreds of thousands of people, destroys a country’s infrastructure and creates strife between sects that had managed to live in relative peace together for generations, there is no need for an apology? When said military action displaces millions of people, causes the U.S. president who spawned it to be seen as the second most dangerous person in the world, and results in the U.S. being hated around the globe, no kind of apology would be necessary? Oh, that’s right: American Exceptionalism. The U.S. is allowed to do whatever it pleases, and is exempt from considering how its actions might negatively impact anyone, including its own citizens.

To say that ‘America seeks peace’ would be laughable, were it not so astoundingly tragic. When a country arbitrarily overthrows democratically-elected governments, supports covert actions against others, and invades a nation whose only crime is the possession of large amounts of oil, it is hard to see it as seeking peace.

And so it goes. Mr. Perry is seen as a viable alternative to the current GOP frontrunner, former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney, the cardboard cutout of himself who has the effrontery to be a Mormon, if one can imagine such a horror. Mr. Romney, additionally, must overcome the crime of having provided healthcare to the people of Massachusetts, and having actually supported the rights of same-sex couples. No, says the Tea Party, which now controls the once-proud Republican Party; Mr. Romney may be next in line for the nomination-coronation, but he is obviously ineligible. It is Mr. Perry, the darling of the evangelical right, who will wear the bright cape, with the big ‘TP’ emblazoned on his chest (that’s for Tea Party, not toilet paper, in case you were wondering), who will save the day.

But it is not yet over; the fat lady has not yet sung. Former Alaska Governor and 2008 Vice-Presidential candidate Sarah Palin seems ready to throw her battered hat into the ring, and we mustn’t forget Minnesota Representative Michele Bachman, known mainly for her valiant campaign to restore light-bulb freedom of choice. Ah yes, the brightest lights (speaking of bulbs) may still be on the horizon.

President Obama is seen as vulnerable, due mainly to the sputtering U.S. economy. But the GOP may want to take a lesson from their own party in 1964, and the Democrats in 1972 (probably not, but let’s make the suggestion anyway). In 1964, the Republicans nominated the far-right Arizona Senator, Barry Goldwater, wildly popular with the right, but not even tolerated by anyone else. He was decisively defeated by an abominable president, Lyndon Johnson. In 1972, the Democrats, always happy to make their own mistakes rather than learn from the mistakes of others, nominated South Dakota Senator George McGovern, revered by the left wing, but by no one else. He was soundly defeated by another awful president, Richard Nixon.

One might say what they will about the disappointing (at best) administration of Mr. Obama. But when opposed by either of the two Republican clowns mentioned here, or any of the others currently awaiting their turn in the three-ring circus called the Republican Party, he begins to regain some of the luster of his first campaign.

And so it goes. Another U.S. election campaign farce is underway. At least the late-night talk show hosts will have plenty of material to work with for the next 14 months.

http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/152224

boutons_deux
08-31-2011, 05:22 AM
A Venn Diagram for Rick Perry: Social Security Is Not a Ponzi Scheme

https://motherjones.com/files/images/venn-diagram-social-security-ponzi-scheme-630.png

anyone who says that Social Security is a Ponzi scheme either misunderstands Social Security, misunderstands Ponzi schemes, is deliberately lying, or some combination of those...After all, a Ponzi scheme is a deliberate fraud. Saying that Social Security is financed like a Ponzi scheme is factually wrong, but saying that Social Security is a Ponzi scheme or is like a Ponzi scheme is basically a false accusation of fraud against the US government and the politicians who have supported Social Security over the years.

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/08/social-security-not-ponzi-scheme-venn-diagram

boutons_deux
08-31-2011, 05:30 AM
The Sketchy Fundraising Apparatus of Rick Perry's Go-To Bundler

What is George Seay III, Perry's Texas finance chair, hiding in his tangled web of politically oriented nonprofits?

Operating closely linked nonprofit and political groups isn't necessarily against the law. "National organizations that consist of a social welfare organization, an affiliated charity, and a PAC have the best of all worlds—they can engage in unlimited lobbying, financially support candidates for public office, receive foundations' grants, and offer donors the ability to make tax-deductible gifts," wrote Jeff Krehely, then-deputy director of the NCRP, in a 2005 article in Responsive Philanthropy. "Although it's not difficult to set up these hybrid organizations, a degree of legal and accounting expertise is necessary."

Still, Krehely also told me that Seay's intermingling of groups seems legally dubious: "It sounds pretty bad, if not illegal.”


http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/08/rick-perry-finance-george-seay

boutons_deux
08-31-2011, 05:33 AM
The Rick Perry Book Club

The Five Thousand Year Leap: 28 Great Ideas That Changed the World, by W. Cleon Skousen

The collected works of Vince Flynn

The Forgotten Man: A New History of the Great Depression, by Amity Shlaes:

Texas histories

Islands of the Damned: A Marine at War in the Pacific, by R.V. Burgin; With the Old Breed: At Peleliu and Okinawa, by E.B. Sledge; Neptune's Inferno: The US Navy at Guadalcanal, by James D. Hornfischer; The Gates of the Alamo, by Stephen Harrigan; The Only Thing Worth Dying For: How 11 Green Berets Forged a New Afghanistan, by Eric Blehm; Not Between Brothers, by David Marion Wilkinson:

The Boy Scout Handbook

The Bible, various authors

The Road to Serfdom, by F.A. Hayek


http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/08/rick-perry-book-club

boutons_deux
08-31-2011, 05:55 AM
Another Perry "win" for "Ron Paul" type of anti-freedom, anti-women politics.

Abortion statute can't be enforced

A federal judge in Austin ruled Tuesday that key components of Texas' abortion-sonogram law are unconstitutional, stopping the state from enforcing it until a court rules on a legal challenge filed on behalf of several obstetrician-gynecologists.

U.S. District Judge Sam Sparks said the law, which was to take effect Thursday, violates the free speech rights of doctors and patients. He ordered that the state can't impose penalties against doctors who don't fulfill its requirements.

Read more: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Abortionstatutecan-t-be-enforced-2148391.php#ixzz1WbRBPeOL

Blake
08-31-2011, 11:12 AM
Another Perry "win" for "Ron Paul" type of anti-freedom, anti-women politics.

Abortion statute can't be enforced

A federal judge in Austin ruled Tuesday that key components of Texas' abortion-sonogram law are unconstitutional, stopping the state from enforcing it until a court rules on a legal challenge filed on behalf of several obstetrician-gynecologists.

U.S. District Judge Sam Sparks said the law, which was to take effect Thursday, violates the free speech rights of doctors and patients. He ordered that the state can't impose penalties against doctors who don't fulfill its requirements.

Read more: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Abortionstatutecan-t-be-enforced-2148391.php#ixzz1WbRBPeOL

Good

mingus
08-31-2011, 11:44 AM
oh, the man disagrees with abortion! the atrocity!

boutons_deux
08-31-2011, 03:47 PM
Back when Rick Perry was against destroying public documents...

[Agriculture Commissioner Rick Perry] also took a swipe at [Governor Ann] Richards, whose staff shredded some phone records last year after misreading state rules on archiving public documents.

"My staff knows the difference between a file cabinet and a paper shredder,'' Perry said.

Yet seventeen years later, they apparently they haven't heard of a backup hard drive, because Rick Perry's office automatically deletes all staffer emails after seven days.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/31/1012212/-Back-when-Rick-Perry-was-against-destroying-public-documents?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

boutons_deux
09-01-2011, 02:37 PM
Beware Of Rick Perry, The French Cuff Cowboy

He's made it clear in speeches and his recently released macho-man web advert that he'll do for America what he did for Texas - which probably involves shooting cheetahs recreationally with hollow-tipped bullets and creating benefit-rich employment opportunities for Americans, such as scraping toilets and salting freedom fries.

That's right, the much-vaunted "Texas Miracle" is as fake as Perry, built on the premise that working three minimum wage jobs and going without healthcare (Texas leads the nation in percentage of overall residents and children without healthcare) is some kind of economic Eden, as opposed to say an economic Elba Island.

Perry, meanwhile, is a "cowboy" who wears Armani suits and French cuffs (seriously, French cuffs?). Attacks stimulus spending while taking a heaped helping of it to bail himself out. Uses taxpayer money to enrich his corporate-lobbyist friends - and endangers the United States of America by inviting a Chinese telecom company into Texas that George W Bush's national security team warned him would pose a cyber-security threat to our military - after talking tough on the Chinese in his children's book:Fed Up.

In other words, he's a fraud.

http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/newsandviews/660061

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And what ever happened to dubya's press-release love of going out in the TX country and chopping up the brush? :lol

ducks
09-01-2011, 03:11 PM
I thought we were not suppose to post whole articles here
because of copyright laws
but I see buttons is above that


obama has done nothing to help him get him another term
he keeps making mistakes

ducks
09-01-2011, 03:13 PM
looks like buttons is afraid perry has a chance to become president!

ChumpDumper
09-01-2011, 03:16 PM
I thought we were not suppose to post whole articles here
because of copyright laws
but I see buttons is above thatNo, it's whole sentences.

ducks
09-01-2011, 03:22 PM
Good

yes it is Great to kill a baby
if the mother does not want it put it up to adobt!
it is a life
but lets not put anyone to death for killing anyone
and lets make the process take 20 years...... if we do put htem to death

baseline bum
09-01-2011, 03:32 PM
looks like buttons is afraid perry has a chance to become president!

Everyone should be afraid of Goodhair getting elected.

boutons_deux
09-01-2011, 04:11 PM
Perry sought to sideline nuclear waste site critic

Texas governor Rick Perry tried to sideline a state commissioner who opposed expanding the scope of a nuclear-waste landfill owned by one of the governor's biggest political donors, Reuters has learned.

Bobby Gregory, owner of a wildlife ranch and landfill company south of Austin, had opposed a plan to let 36 states send nuclear waste to a 1,338-acre site in Andrews County.

On the other side of the issue was billionaire Harold Simmons and his company Waste Control Specialists LLC, which stood to gain millions of dollars from accepting out-of-state shipments. Simmons had donated over $1 million to Perry's gubernatorial campaigns.

A report in the Los Angeles Times in August examined the case of the Texas waste site and Perry's ties to Simmons, a conservative who funded the Swift Boat campaign that helped torpedo John Kerry's presidential bid.

Perry maintains his appointments are based on merit, and Simmons is inclined to help any conservative Republican, spokespeople for the two said.

In any case, the January vote by the eight-member Texas Low-Level Radioactive Waste Disposal Compact Commission was key to the future profitability of the nuclear landfill.

Reuters has learned that late last year, after it became clear that the commission might block Waste Control's request to truck in waste from around the country, Perry's appointments chief, Teresa Spears, offered commissioner Gregory an alternative job -- a prestigious appointment as a regent of a state university.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/09/01/perry-sought-to-sideline-nuclear-waste-site-critic/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Blake
09-01-2011, 04:54 PM
Everyone should be afraid of Goodhair getting elected.

Blake
09-01-2011, 04:56 PM
yes it is Great to kill a baby
if the mother does not want it put it up to adobt!
it is a life
but lets not put anyone to death for killing anyone
and lets make the process take 20 years...... if we do put htem to death

duckslexic

boutons_deux
09-01-2011, 04:57 PM
Robber-Baron Rick Perry's Got $500,000 in AT&T Money That Says America Needs More Media Monopoly

Not only has Perry endorsed the AT&T/T-Mobile merger, he has actively promoted it, writing a letter to Federal Communications Commission Chairman Julius Genachowski and the other commissioners, in which he argued that: "I believe that this merger will continue to provide for great consumer choice, offer a wide range of service options, and spur continued innovation."

The governor's letter, sent in his official capacity before he announced his candidacy, urged federal officials to adopt "a light regulatory touch" and "business-friendly policies."

Perry, who has tried to present himself as a tech-savvy contender (even if he does not quyote have the language of Twitter and Tweets down), argued in the letter that: “The future rests in wireless broadband, and the federal government's swift approval of the merger between AT&T and T-Mobile would send a strong signal to employers, consumers, and states that our federal government is serious about meeting the communication and technology needs of Texans and all Americans.'

That's not how the Justice Department or consumer groups see it.

So what's behind Perry's different perspective?

Gee, perhaps it is the more than $500,000 [4] that AT&T political action committee has given Perry over the past decade.

Watchdog groups accused Perry of engaging in "pay-to-play" politics, which sounds about right.

It was a Republican president, Teddy Roosevelt," who at the start of the last century embraced the trust-busting program of the progressive era and taught America that monopolies were bad for consumers, competition and democracy.

Rick Perry is not a Teddy Roosevelt Republican. And, despite his techie pretensions, he is not a 21st-century Republican, or even a 20-century one.

Perry's an old-fashioned 19th-century robber-baron Republican. And he's writing letters to prove it.

http://www.thenation.com/print/blog/163099/robber-baron-rick-perrys-got-500000-att-money-says-america-needs-more-media-monopoly

boutons_deux
09-01-2011, 05:15 PM
Lying scumbag war criminal dickhead flip-flops and now endorses Jimmy Ricky

Dick Cheney Suddenly Discovers There's a Lot to Like About Rick Perry

http://www.thenation.com/print/blog/163095/dick-cheney-suddenly-discovers-theres-lot-about-rick-perry

ducks
09-01-2011, 06:04 PM
Everyone should be afraid of Goodhair getting elected.

why
he is far from perfect but he seems to be one of the best choices unless another dem is going to challenge the guy in the whitehouse

boutons_deux
09-02-2011, 10:54 AM
Texas-Size Recovery

Perry's record is part of a long-term trend. Texas has done well in the jobs department for decades. "This point goes neglected," says Bernard L. Weinstein, professor of business economics in the Cox School of Business at Southern Methodist University in Dallas. "Yes, Texas has created more jobs than any other state" in the last two years. "But that’s been true since 1970. For the last 41 years Texas has added more jobs than any other state, and in most years, has led the nation in job creation," Weinstein told us. "So Gov. Perry can claim that these jobs were created on his watch, but they were created on everybody else’s watch too."

The San Antonio-Express News recently pointed out that past Texas governors have done well in terms of job creation, too. The state did even better when George W. Bush was governor; jobs went up 20.3 percent, though Bush's 1995-2000 term also came during prosperous times. "A lot of what we’re doing is growing like we always grew," Dick Lavine, senior fiscal analyst for the Center for Public Policy Priorities in Austin, a think tank that advocates for low- and moderate-income families, told us, referring to both jobs and the state's burgeoning population. "It’s a longer-term trend in Texas that’s just continuing."

Fact: Despite the job gains, Texas' unemployment rate has gone up.

While Texas has created jobs, the state hasn't created enough of them to keep pace with a rising population and labor force. In fact, if we look at the June 2009 starting point that Perry refers to, unemployment got worse in Texas – going from 7.7 percent in June 2009 to 8.4 percent in July 2011. The national rate, meanwhile, improved – dropping from 9.5 percent to 9.1 percent.

The fact is, neither Texas, nor the nation, is adding jobs at a pace fast enough to bring down unemployment to historically normal levels. And Texas' unemployment rate — while still below the national average — is now higher than that of 26 states.

http://factcheck.org/2011/08/texas-size-recovery/

boutons_deux
09-03-2011, 10:23 AM
Perry's Blunt Views in Books Get New Scrutiny as He Joins Race

WASHINGTON - Rick Perry, the governor of Texas, believes that climate change is a "contrived, phony mess." The federal income tax was the "great milestone on the road to serfdom." And the Boy Scouts of America are under attack by "a radical homosexual movement."Mr. Perry also thinks that senators should be chosen by legislatures, not the people. And he says that Social Security, the retirement program for the nation's elderly, is a "failure" enacted during a power grab called the New Deal and is "something we have been forced to accept."Those blunt assertions are in two books Mr. Perry wrote while building a deep base of support in Texas among evangelical voters and Tea Party supporters. But the books have drawn new scrutiny now that Mr. Perry, a Republican, is running for president.On Wednesday, Mr. Perry is likely to be asked about some of the statements he makes in the books when he takes the stage in his first nationally televised presidential debate. How he responds, and whether he defends the ideas or distances himself from them, will be an early test of his campaign.On the campaign trail, Mr. Perry talks in broad, vague terms about the need to get America working again. But his words are much more specific in the books.So far, Mr. Perry has stood by his statements in his books while allowing aides to distance his campaign from the writings. His spokesman has called "Fed Up! Our Fight to Save America from Washington" a "look back, not a path forward," but when a reporter in Iowa asked Mr. Perry himself whether he stood by his statements, he claimed not to have "backed off anything in my book."Mark Miner, a spokesman for the governor, said Mr. Perry wrote the book to "foster discussion and to encourage his fellow Americans to think about how we choose to govern ourselves." Mr. Miner said that the governor "trusts the American people to govern themselves" and said that principle would guide his thinking during the campaign.But Mr. Perry's own words at the beginning of "Fed Up!" suggest that he did not intend for it to sit on a shelf. "It is not enough to be fed up. We must act," he wrote in the first chapter.Touching a potential political minefield, Mr. Perry unleashes a critique against Social Security as "a crumbling monument to the failure of the New Deal."

http://mobile.nytimes.com/article?a=836545&f=21

boutons_deux
09-03-2011, 10:27 AM
Evangelicals vet Gov. Rick Perry at Texas retreat

Reporting from Washington—
On a remote ranch more than 70 miles west of Austin, Texas, top evangelical leaders from around the country assembled last weekend for a private two-day retreat.

It wasn't a religious revival that drew the group of 200, which included luminaries of the Christian right; it was the chance to hear the personal testimony of one man: Rick Perry.

Inside an air-conditioned tent, the Texas governor and Republican presidential contender was grilled about his beliefs and his record in extraordinarily frank sessions. He responded by describing his relationship with Jesus and pledging to pursue the antiabortion and anti-gay-marriage agenda championed by the evangelical right, according to multiple participants.

By all accounts, he appeared to pass the test.

The event was opened by Leininger, who made his fortune in high-tech hospital beds and other medical equipment and has since started dozens of companies, some of which received state economic development funds under Perry's administration.

In 1998, when Perry ran for lieutenant governor in Texas, Leininger was among those who guaranteed a $1.1-million loan to his campaign, allowing Perry to launch a last-minute advertising blitz that helped him to a narrow victory.

Since Perry became governor, Leininger has given his campaigns nearly $240,000 and donated $100,000 to the Republican Governors Assn., which Perry chaired twice, according to the watchdog group Texans for Public Justice.

Leininger is a major advocate for school vouchers and tort reform and a stalwart opponent of abortion and gay marriage.


http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-perry-christian-20110902,0,6904433.story

TeyshaBlue
09-03-2011, 11:37 AM
Lol @ the rain of Perry posts.

hitmanyr2k
09-03-2011, 01:20 PM
oh, the man disagrees with abortion! the atrocity!

Not really an atrocity. More like the typical Republican hypocrisy. That's the same dumbass that keeps spewing how he wants to get the government out of the lives of the American people. Yeah right. And what if the legislation did cut down on abortions and some of these new moms need financial help raising that kid in the years to come because they have no support network? We're going to have to hear more bitching and moaning from these same morons about government social programs.

mingus
09-04-2011, 02:42 AM
Not really an atrocity. More like the typical Republican hypocrisy. That's the same dumbass that keeps spewing how he wants to get the government out of the lives of the American people. Yeah right. And what if the legislation did cut down on abortions and some of these new moms need financial help raising that kid in the years to come because they have no support network? We're going to have to hear more bitching and moaning from these same morons about government social programs.

No it is an atrocity. I am friends with quite a few people who have achieved great success and came from the gutters. You'd have called for their abortion considering the economic circumstances of the mother. That would've been an atrocity. It's an atrocity because this kind of thing is going on right now.

boutons_deux
09-04-2011, 07:46 AM
Perry proposed prison health care privatization

sought to eliminate the independence of the Texas Commission on Jail Standards and fold it, along with two other public-safety commissions, into a single agency.

More recently, he's advanced a plan to privatize health care within the prisons

At the same time, he's been raking in huge amounts of campaign cash from private prison executives and lobbyists. No doubt coincidentally, Michael Toomey, Perry's former chief of staff, is currently a lobbyist for Corrections Corporation of America, the largest private prison contractor in the country. Also no doubt coincidentally, Toomey was a lobbyist for Merck at the time Perry tried to require all Texas girls to get an HPV vaccination, manufactured by Merck.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/09/01/1012598/-Perry-proposed-prison-health-care-privatization?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

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Jimmy Ricky is nothing but a corrupt tool for shovelling taxpayer $$ to UCA, in return for UCA contributions. WTF has he done for anybody but UCA?

boutons_deux
09-04-2011, 10:05 AM
G.O.P. Candidates’ Stances on Health Care Mask Their Records as Governors

Mr. Perry, by contrast, eschewed direct efforts to expand coverage in Texas and cemented its status as the state with the highest rate of people without insurance.

When Mr. Perry succeeded George W. Bush in December 2000, about 22 percent of Texans had no insurance, second only to New Mexico. After Mr. Perry’s decade in office, Texas now claims the highest uninsured rate, at 26 percent, as well as other distinctions like the lowest rate of prenatal care.

Regardless, Mr. Perry has offered few initiatives to extend coverage. Instead, under the banner of state sovereignty, he has waged a running battle against the ballooning cost and structure of Medicaid, which covers more than a third of Texas children. At various points, Mr. Perry and the Republican-controlled Legislature have cut Medicaid benefits and provider reimbursement rates and made enrollment more onerous.

“The governor believes that expanding government-sponsored insurance is not the answer,” said a spokeswoman, Catherine Frazier. “Nor is requiring people to purchase it. He looks to free-market solutions.”

Any failure to cover more Texans, Ms. Frazier said, is the federal government’s for declining, under Mr. Bush and Mr. Obama, to grant Mr. Perry’s requests to lift federal restrictions on Medicaid eligibility and benefits.

Rather than expanding public insurance, Mr. Perry sought to improve access by revamping the medical liability system. In 2003, he backed a successful measure that limited noneconomic damages against physicians and hospitals to a total of $750,000.

Mr. Perry boasted in New Hampshire last month that the law resulted in “21,000 more physicians practicing medicine in Texas,” attracting specialists to underserved counties.

But three law professors — Bernard Black of Northwestern University, David A. Hyman of the University of Illinois and Charles Silver of the University of Texas — find deep flaws in Mr. Perry’s calculations and conclude that the supply of practicing doctors actually increased at a slower rate after the 2003 changes than before.

In working papers, the researchers assert that tort reform significantly reduced the number and cost of liability claims. But they found no evidence that it slowed the growth of health care costs.

Mr. Perry has railed against the 2010 federal health law as “socialism on American soil” and strongly backs litigation challenging its requirement that most Americans, starting in 2014, obtain insurance.

But his state agencies have accepted nearly $20 million in grants authorized by the act, including $1 million to plan for the new insurance marketplaces known as exchanges. Nonetheless, Mr. Perry this year persuaded the Legislature to shelve a Republican bill to begin the planning process.

“He thought it would hurt our legal challenge to the law,” said State Representative John Zerwas, the measure’s sponsor. “And whether we like it or not, health insurance exchange has become synonymous with Obamacare, and there are political consequences to that.”

Mr. Perry continues to pay a political price for one decision he made to impose a health care mandate — an executive order in 2007 that made Texas the first state to require young girls to be vaccinated against cervical cancer with Gardasil. The order infuriated conservatives, and the Legislature quickly passed a bill to overturn it, which Mr. Perry allowed to take effect without his signature.

The governor, whose former chief of staff was a lobbyist for Merck, the maker of Gardasil, defended his “pro-life decision” in a debate last year. But after announcing his bid for president last month, he began describing it as a mistake.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/04/us/politics/04governors.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss&pagewanted=print

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Good ol' Jimmy Ricky, huge help for the greedy docs, etc, while increasing TX uninsured to 26%. And of course, spewing lying bullshit about "free market" (which offers overpriced coverage refused by the 26% uninsured).

Wild Cobra
09-04-2011, 11:20 AM
More recently, he's advanced a plan to privatize health care within the prisons

At the same time, he's been raking in huge amounts of campaign cash from private prison executives and lobbyists.
Which came first... The chicken or the egg?

boutons_deux
09-04-2011, 11:33 AM
Jimmy Ricky and his wealthy supporters know the play-to-play game he plays, peddling taxpayer businesses and contracts to contributors. Sequence doesn't matter, except to useless hairsplitters and silly spinners.

hitmanyr2k
09-04-2011, 03:26 PM
No it is an atrocity. I am friends with quite a few people who have achieved great success and came from the gutters. You'd have called for their abortion considering the economic circumstances of the mother. That would've been an atrocity. It's an atrocity because this kind of thing is going on right now.

Yippee, great for your friends. And what about the other thousands upon thousands of poverty stricken kids who become the same welfare cases dumbass hypocrite right wingers whine about every day because they need help from government social programs to get by? I don't call for the abortion of anything but I recognize that it should be a CHOICE and a private one at that. There should be no government interference whatsoever badgering any female to carry a child she had no intention of having or the means to support. And if the parent(s) do decide to keep the child, struggles to support it and needs government assistance along the way then the rest of the right wing idiots should just shut the fuck up because they can't have it both ways.

scott
09-04-2011, 04:10 PM
A Venn Diagram for Rick Perry: Social Security Is Not a Ponzi Scheme

https://motherjones.com/files/images/venn-diagram-social-security-ponzi-scheme-630.png

anyone who says that Social Security is a Ponzi scheme either misunderstands Social Security, misunderstands Ponzi schemes, is deliberately lying, or some combination of those...After all, a Ponzi scheme is a deliberate fraud. Saying that Social Security is financed like a Ponzi scheme is factually wrong, but saying that Social Security is a Ponzi scheme or is like a Ponzi scheme is basically a false accusation of fraud against the US government and the politicians who have supported Social Security over the years.

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/08/social-security-not-ponzi-scheme-venn-diagram

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/9/4/b68e6678-22d3-4fa2-a980-cb6ad6a556d2.png

mingus
09-04-2011, 04:33 PM
Yippee, great for your friends. And what about the other thousands upon thousands of poverty stricken kids who become the same welfare cases dumbass hypocrite right wingers whine about every day because they need help from government social programs to get by? I don't call for the abortion of anything but I recognize that it should be a CHOICE and a private one at that. There should be no government interference whatsoever badgering any female to carry a child she had no intention of having or the means to support. And if the parent(s) do decide to keep the child, struggles to support it and needs government assistance along the way then the rest of the right wing idiots should just shut the fuck up because they can't have it both ways.

what about the thousands of others? they have a damn life, which is a special thing whether you're poor or not.

and i thinkg they should recieve welfare. it's retarded to think they shouldn't need it to some degree to give them an opportunity.

i don't agree with abortion. in fact i don't agree with the killing anybody unless there's reason (i.e. they pose a danger to lives of others). therefore i dont think it's a women's right to kill it

boutons_deux
09-05-2011, 08:14 PM
What? Jimmy Ricky didn't call a prayer meeing, but gonna count on FEMA disaster relief?

Similar to the fire-engine God, the Repugs hate govt until they need it.

"He said the Federal Emergency Management Agency likely would arrive Wednesday and that Texas would seek federal disaster relief. He also said officials were considering seeking military resources from nearby Fort Hood."

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/article/Perry-says-Texas-wildfire-mean-as-he-s-ever-seen-2156473.php#ixzz1X89zAH52

Where's The Republic of Texas Fire Fighting Brigades? :lol

boutons_deux
09-07-2011, 10:13 AM
How Rick Perry Has Been on the Public Dole His Whole Life

Here's a particularly revealing stat that the Perry pixies don't want us to see: On his watch as governor, Texas added more minimum wage jobs than all the other 49 states combined. More than half a million Texans now work for $7.25 an hour or less. He can brag that he's brought Texans down into a tie with Mississippi for the highest percentage of workers reduced to poverty pay.

During Perry's decade, the greatest job growth by far has come from the public sector, which has more than doubled the number of new jobs created by the private sector.

In fact, there would be no Rick Perry without the steady "intrusion" of government into his life.

Local taxpayers in Haskell County put him through their public school system -- for free. He and his family were dry-land cotton farmers, and federal taxpayers helped support them with thousands of dollars in crop subsidies -- Perry personally took $80,000 in farm payments.

State and federal taxpayers financed his college education at Texas A&M, even giving him the extracurricular opportunity to be a cheerleader. Upon graduation, he spent four years on the federal payroll as an Air Force transport pilot who never did any combat duty.

Then, in 1984, Perry hit the mother lode of government pay by moving into elected office -- squatting there for 27 years and counting. In addition to getting regular paychecks from taxpayers for nearly three decades as a state representative, agriculture commissioner, lieutenant governor and governor, he also receives platinum-level health care coverage and a generous pension from the state, plus $10,000 a month for renting a luxury suburban home, a covey of political and personal aides and even a publicly paid subscription to Food & Wine magazine.

So when this taxpayer-supported lifer flits into your town to declare that he will slash public benefits and make government "as inconsequential as possible," he means in your life, not his.

Perry literally puts the "hype" in hypocrisy. Forget his tall tales and political B.S. -- look at what he actually does.

http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/152316

boutons_deux
09-07-2011, 12:39 PM
Perry Accused Of Distorting Redistricting Map To Weaken The Latino Vote In Texas

The state has a four-decade history of violating minority voting rights that has required court intervention, Jose Garza, a lawyer for the Mexican American Legislative Caucus of the state Legislature, said today in federal court in San Antonio.

“Whether the Legislature was controlled by Democrats or Republicans, it didn’t matter,” Garza told a three-judge panel. “Redistricting was always done on the backs of minorities.” [...]

The majority-Republican Legislature redrew congressional district maps after the state grew enough to gain four seats in Congress, adding almost 4.3 million residents since 2000 according to the 2010 census. [...]

If the new map is approved, “the Legislature’s blatant racial gerrymandering will effectively prevent minority voters from having any meaningful impact on congressional elections for the next 10 years,” lawyers representing Travis County and Austin said in court papers.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/09/07/312575/perry-accused-of-distorting-redistricting-map-to-weaken-the-latino-vote-in-texas/

Fabbs
09-07-2011, 01:13 PM
'bouts in the end who will the Repugs turn the fake vote counting machines to?
Pitbull Bitch or Jimmy Ricky?

And will they be the twosome ticket?

boutons_deux
09-07-2011, 01:16 PM
I bet it will be blue-state, plutocrat, born-wealthy Willard and some unknown jerk from a sunbelt and/or red-state redneck bubba as VEEP.

DMX7
09-07-2011, 02:26 PM
Our state is on fire and Rick Perry is M.I.A.

CosmicCowboy
09-07-2011, 02:42 PM
Boutons > DMX7

pathetic

boutons_deux
09-07-2011, 02:50 PM
Jimmy Ricky bailed out somewhere to hustle back to flaming TX, do overflies, and spew banalities to the media. It's his "3 AM" call. :lol

boutons_deux
09-07-2011, 03:31 PM
Rick Perry slams feds for slow fire aid, after huge cuts to quicker state response

While 30 or so Texas Forest Service and Texas National Guard helicopters fight the fires, Perry also said he was frustrated by the slow response to his requests for military equipment from Fort Hood as well. That request must be approved by the Federal Emergency Management Agency, then the Department of Defense, a process Perry said is taking far too long, the Austin American-Statesman reported.

“It’s more difficult than it should be,” he said, according to the Statesman. “When you have people hurting, when lives are in danger, I don’t care who owns the asset.”

But while Perry complains about the feds’ response, he and Texas lawmakers have also been called to task for huge cuts to state firefighting resources passed earlier this year. The two-year budget that took effect last Thursday includes a 75 percent slash to volunteer fire departments — from $30 million to $7 million — and a one-third cut to the Texas Forest Service. State Sen. Kirk Watson (D-Austin) said this year’s fires near the capital city underscore the need to better fund the emergency-services districts stretched thin at the outskirts of Texas’ growing cities.

Texas’ 879 volunteer departments are the first line of defense against wildfires for much of the state. The forest service, with 230 firefighters and 15 trucks, provides statewide support. After that, help comes from the federal government and other states.

Those resources have been strained this year, which has seen six of the 10 worst fires in Texas history. Nearly half the land burned in U.S. fires this year is in Texas.

‘No financial impediment’
But the politicians who crafted Texas’ current budget say the state will have no problem paying to fight these fires.

The forest service saw its budget cut from $117.7 million to $83 million, but the Texas Legislature threw it an extra $121 million this year, to cover its firefighting costs over the last two years, the Houston Chronicle reported. Much of that came from the state’s rainy day fund, Senate Finance Chairman Steve Ogden (R-Bryan) told the Chronicle.

http://www.americanindependent.com/192693/perry-slams-feds-for-slow-fire-aid-after-huge-cuts-to-quicker-state-response

CosmicCowboy
09-07-2011, 03:39 PM
‘No financial impediment’
But the politicians who crafted Texas’ current budget say the state will have no problem paying to fight these fires.

The forest service saw its budget cut from $117.7 million to $83 million, but the Texas Legislature threw it an extra $121 million this year, to cover its firefighting costs over the last two years, the Houston Chronicle reported. Much of that came from the state’s rainy day fund, Senate Finance Chairman Steve Ogden (R-Bryan) told the Chronicle.


Boutons, do you even read the articles you post? When they needed more money they got more money.

Trainwreck2100
09-07-2011, 04:01 PM
Boutons, do you even read the articles you post? When they needed more money they got more money.

from the rainy day fund to give them money they expended 2 years ago.

CosmicCowboy
09-07-2011, 04:06 PM
from the rainy day fund to give them money they expended 2 years ago.

Do you know what a BUDGET is? It's ANTICIPATED spending based on ANTICIPATED need. With all the fires they needed more money and got more money. I'd a lot rather they do it that way than give them more than they need in a wet (no fires) year which would just be pissed off. Governmental organizations never spend less than they have in their budget.

Spurminator
09-07-2011, 04:07 PM
non sequitor, but funny.

http://i.imgur.com/dvOYX.jpg

clambake
09-07-2011, 04:35 PM
he kinda reminds me of the prez on the dead zone.

boutons_deux
09-07-2011, 04:51 PM
Do you know what a BUDGET is? It's ANTICIPATED spending based on ANTICIPATED need. With all the fires they needed more money and got more money. I'd a lot rather they do it that way than give them more than they need in a wet (no fires) year which would just be pissed off. Governmental organizations never spend less than they have in their budget.

ok, but Repuglic of TX President Jimmy Ricky is asking non-Texans to pay for the fire costs. I thought TXans were badass rugged individualists who could take care of themselves without being nannied by the Feds? :lol

Trainwreck2100
09-07-2011, 04:56 PM
Do you know what a BUDGET is? It's ANTICIPATED spending based on ANTICIPATED need. With all the fires they needed more money and got more money. I'd a lot rather they do it that way than give them more than they need in a wet (no fires) year which would just be pissed off. Governmental organizations never spend less than they have in their budget.

The money they got was the rainy day fund it isn't part of the budget. AND it was for charges from 2 years ago.

boutons_deux
09-08-2011, 09:22 AM
Hunger Rate Spikes In Rick Perry’s Texas, Even As National Rate Holds Steady

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/texashunger.jpg

But one glaring exception was the state of Texas, which has been hailed by Gov. Rick Perry (R) as a model for the rest of the nation during these tough economic times:

Built on a measure called “food insecurity,” the study was based on a survey of 45,000 households during the 2010 census, and found 14.5 percent of households had difficulty meeting their food needs — a statistic that was “essentially unchanged” from 2009, according to the agency. Last year saw a decline in the proportion of households with “severe” food insecurity across the country, too.

In Texas, however, the three-year average food insecurity rate did increase, from 17.4 percent in 2007-2009 to the current rate of 18.8 percent in 2008-2010, according to the Austin-based Center for Public Policy Priorities.

Mississippi is the only state with a worse food insecurity rate than Texas. The number of people on food stamps in Texas rose 2.8 percent between 2009 and 2010, and is now a staggering 15.6 percent of the state’s population. The increase was one of the highest in the nation.

Austin Food Bank’s John Turner says it’s no coincidence that Texas and Mississippi also lead the country in low-wage jobs. For many hard-working Texans, minimum wage jobs just don’t pay enough to stave off hunger. “The vast majority of the 48,000 central Texans this food bank serves every week are employed, hard-working men and women who are just not earning a living wage,”

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/09/08/314174/hunger-rate-rises-in-perrys-texas-as-it-stays-steady-nationwide/

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dumb Jimmy Ricky's lips are moving == he's lying.

CosmicCowboy
09-08-2011, 09:44 AM
"food insecurity" ????


according to the Austin-based Center for Public Policy Priorities.


What crap

JoeChalupa
09-08-2011, 10:03 AM
Perry is his own worse enema, err....enemy.

Winehole23
09-08-2011, 10:20 AM
"food insecurity" ????




What crapHow so? Goes along with persistently high rates un/underemployment.

CosmicCowboy
09-08-2011, 10:45 AM
So why are the ones with the most "food insecurity" usually the fattest?

boutons_deux
09-08-2011, 10:51 AM
why is it crap?

or is it just another right-winger denying that food insecurity, poverty are plentiful and that (good paying, living-wage) jobs are scarce now in good ol' TX?

boutons_deux
09-08-2011, 10:52 AM
"most "food insecurity" usually the fattest?"

because cheap food is dead, shitty, industrial packaged subsidized (corn,soy) pathogenic food in convenience stores and on 90% of (wal-mart) shelves.

Winehole23
09-08-2011, 11:04 AM
So why are the ones with the most "food insecurity" usually the fattest?Care to support that?

CosmicCowboy
09-08-2011, 11:07 AM
C'mon. We aren't talkin Biafran babies here.

http://www.thethirdcity.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/biafra-fidelvasquez.jpg

Winehole23
09-08-2011, 11:11 AM
So what?

Winehole23
09-08-2011, 11:13 AM
We're talking about fellow Americans who can't put food on the table. Why do you hate them so much?

boutons_deux
09-08-2011, 11:13 AM
There he goes again.

As long as there aren't African-African skeletal, diseased, distended-stomach kids among African-Americans, then all is OK in America.

CosmicCowboy
09-08-2011, 11:37 AM
We're talking about fellow Americans who can't put food on the table. Why do you hate them so much?

If they can't put food on the table it means they are stupider than the 45 million people that already use the SNAP program.

Cry me a fucking river.

boutons_deux
09-08-2011, 11:38 AM
Despite 41 DNA Exonerations In Texas In Last 9 Years, Perry Says He Never Loses Sleep Over Executing The Innocent

That’s despite the fact that during Perry’s tenure as governor, DNA evidence has exonerated at least 41 people convicted in Texas, Scott Horton writes in Harper’s. According to the Innocence Project, “more people have been freed through DNA testing in Texas than in any other state in the country, and these exonerations have revealed deep flaws in the state’s criminal justice system.” Some 85 percent of wrongful convictions in Texas, or 35 of the 41 cases, are due to mistaken eyewitness identifications.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/09/08/314493/despite-41-dna-exonerations-in-texas-in-last-9-years-perry-says-he-never-loses-sleep-over-executing-the-innocent/

JoeChalupa
09-08-2011, 11:42 AM
Dang, CC is one cold mofo.

Winehole23
09-08-2011, 11:49 AM
If they can't put food on the table it means they are stupider than the 45 million people that already use the SNAP program.Not being able to eat without state assistance is pretty much the definition of food insecurity.

BTW, why do you hate stupid people?

CosmicCowboy
09-08-2011, 12:00 PM
Not being able to eat without state assistance is pretty much the definition of food insecurity.

BTW, why do you hate stupid people?

Getting a Lone Star card damn sure sounds like food security to me.

I don't hate stupid people, I just don't give a shit about them.

Winehole23
09-08-2011, 12:13 PM
You're not required to care. Thanks at least for having the decency not to pretend you're compassionate.

JoeChalupa
09-08-2011, 12:31 PM
Getting a Lone Star card damn sure sounds like food security to me.

I don't hate stupid people, I just don't give a shit about them.

So then you have no problem with those who wouldn't give a shit if say...your house burned down to the ground? Just sayin.

CosmicCowboy
09-08-2011, 12:52 PM
So then you have no problem with those who wouldn't give a shit if say...your house burned down to the ground? Just sayin.

I pay property taxes to support a municipal fire department so I expect them to respond if my house catches fire. I purchase private insurance to hopefully reimburse me for any financial loss I might sustain.

I cold give a shit whether you cared if my house burned down or not.

BTW that was a stupid analogy.

Wild Cobra
09-08-2011, 01:32 PM
If someone doesn't have fire insurance, why should they be rewarded for a new house with other people's money?

boutons_deux
09-08-2011, 01:57 PM
"doesn't have fire insurance, why should they be rewarded for a new house with other people's money"

where does that happen?

We know a tiny sliver of humanitarian/solidarity streak in the American soul is committed to providing sick care to the uninsured (a streak the Repugs want to obliterate and are doing it), but providing free housing to uninsured burned-out home owners?

Wild Cobra
09-08-2011, 01:59 PM
"doesn't have fire insurance, why should they be rewarded for a new house with other people's money"

where does that happen?

We know a tiny sliver of humanitarian/solidarity streak in the American soul is committed to providing sick care to the uninsured (a streak the Repugs want to obliterate and are doing it), but providing free housing to uninsured burned-out home owners?
If someone could afford house payment, they can rent.

boutons_deux
09-08-2011, 02:00 PM
"doesn't have fire insurance, why should they be rewarded for a new house with other people's money"

where does that happen?

Wild Cobra
09-08-2011, 02:02 PM
"doesn't have fire insurance, why should they be rewarded for a new house with other people's money"

where does that happen?
I didn't say it happens. Seems liberals want all types of irresponsibility rewarded, so I interjected that.

I forget though. Did it happen in the aftermath of Katrina? For flooding?

boutons_deux
09-08-2011, 02:10 PM
Katrina/NO was a fricking US Army CoE man-made disaster, so the feds were responsible for the damage.

CosmicCowboy
09-08-2011, 02:21 PM
Katrina/NO was a fricking US Army CoE man-made disaster, so the feds were responsible for the damage.

The CoE MADE those people build their houses below sea level? I didn't know that.

boutons_deux
09-08-2011, 02:23 PM
CoE built or contracted for crappy levees.

CosmicCowboy
09-08-2011, 02:30 PM
CoE built or contracted for crappy levees.

Just another VRWC.

boutons_deux
09-08-2011, 02:47 PM
you said it, I didn't

Fabbs
09-08-2011, 03:03 PM
The CoE MADE those people build their houses below sea level? I didn't know that.
Holland has the whole nation below sea level. But they don't have asstard politicians who stole money intended for levee upkeep.

Your stupid act doesn't fly.

CosmicCowboy
09-08-2011, 03:40 PM
Holland has the whole nation below sea level. But they don't have asstard politicians who stole money intended for levee upkeep.

Your stupid act doesn't fly.

Source that CoE stole the money intended for levee upkeep?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

Nice try, stupid.

Fabbs
09-08-2011, 05:20 PM
Source that CoE stole the money intended for levee upkeep?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

Nice try, stupid.
'bouts posted it back in the day.
If we thought your Multitroll ass could handle the truth it could be reposted.

Wild Cobra
09-08-2011, 08:05 PM
Katrina/NO was a fricking US Army CoE man-made disaster, so the feds were responsible for the damage.
LOL...

No it wasn't. Sure, the design specs were lied about by contractors, but that doesn't make the disaster their fault. Even if the levies were up to spec, they still could have failed under Katrina!

What is it about you that you always have to blame someone?

Wild Cobra
09-08-2011, 08:08 PM
Just another VRWC.
I wonder who was in charge of those projects at the time?

boutons_deux
09-08-2011, 09:50 PM
"they still could have failed under Katrina!"

the could have not failed under Katrina had they been spec'd and built by real engineers rather the Army.

Wild Cobra
09-09-2011, 01:35 AM
"they still could have failed under Katrina!"

the could have not failed under Katrina had they been spec'd and built by real engineers rather the Army.

LOL...

I forget the details, but that wasn't why. How dare you trash veterans you fucking sheep fucker.

boutons_deux
09-09-2011, 04:56 AM
Texas healthcare system withering under Gov. Perry

Texas, he said, could manage its own healthcare.

But in the 11 years the Republican presidential hopeful has been in office, working Texans increasingly have been priced out of private healthcare while the state's safety net has withered, leaving millions of state residents without medical care.

"Texas just hasn't proven it can run a health system," said Dr. C. Bruce Malone III, an orthopedic surgeon and president of the historically conservative Texas Medical Assn.

More than a quarter of Texans lack health insurance, the highest rate in the nation, placing a crushing burden on hospitals and doctors who treat patients unable to pay.

Those costs are passed to the insured. Insurance premiums have risen more quickly in Texas than they have nationally over the last seven years. And when compared with incomes, insurance in Texas is less affordable than in every state but Mississippi, according to the nonprofit Commonwealth Fund.

That has taken a toll, as nearly a third of the state's children did not receive an annual physical and a teeth cleaning in 2007, placing Texas 40th in a state ranking by the fund. Over the last decade, infant mortality rates have risen in Texas while declining nationwide, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Seniors, despite guaranteed Medicare coverage, also are suffering, as nearly 1 in 5 ends up back in the hospital within a month of being released, one of the highest readmission rates in the country and a leading indicator of systemwide problems.

Similar healthcare dynamics drove Obama's push for a national overhaul. In Texas, however, elected officials have done little to address the growing crisis, local health leaders say.

"The philosophy has been the less public expenditure, the better," said Dr. Kenneth Shine, who heads the University of Texas health system. "And some people will just have to make do."


http://mobile.latimes.com/p.p?m=b&a=rp&id=817399&postId=817399&postUserId=7&sessionToken=&catId=5219&curAbsIndex=0&resultsUrl=DID%3D6%26DFCL%3D1000%26DSB%3Drank%2523 desc%26DBFQ%3DuserId%253A7%26DL.w%3D%26DL.d%3D10%2 6DQ%3DsectionId%253A5219%26DPS%3D0%26DPL%3D3

boutons_deux
09-09-2011, 05:41 AM
Meet The Money Behind Rick Perry

Texans don't like the government interfering with their business, especially campaign donations, where state laws allow contributors to fork over unlimited cash. No one has benefited more from this arrangement than Rick Perry, who has raised $100 million over the last decade, nearly half of which came from just 204 ultra-wealthy donors.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/09/meet-the-money-behind-rick-perry.php

boutons_deux
09-09-2011, 05:54 AM
After debate, Perry rhetoric called into question



http://blog.chron.com/rickperry/2011/09/after-debate-perry-rhetoric-called-into-question/

boutons_deux
09-09-2011, 12:18 PM
Texas Medicaid’s Vast and Dangerous Wastefulness

If only Texas could operate wholly independently of federal rules, he insisted, “you will see more people in the state of Texas who will have more coverage and frankly we’ll save money at the end of the day, as will the federal government.”

Although Perry was forced to abandon that scheme when a state report showed that leaving Medicaid would cost Texas billions (and leave even more Texans uninsured), he still claims that the federal government should stop trying to make sure that more Americans have health care, and that programs run solely by the states would be more efficient.

But lately the facts about Perry’s own record as governor have begun to emerge—and they don’t support his argument. Over the past several weeks, a Dallas TV station has exposed the “golden teeth” Medicaid scandal in Texas, now under investigation by the inspector general of the Department of Health and Human Services. The Perry appointees who run Medicaid have allowed hundreds of millions of dollars to be misspent on orthodontic braces for children who don’t need them—with huge profits for private dental clinics owned by Wall Street hedge funds.

Nor is that the only aspect of Perry’s record that belies his boasting. One of the most embarrassing episodes during his first two terms as governor involved a plan to let private firms run Medicaid, replacing state employees. The privatization plan was an “innovation” that was supposed to save money. What it accomplished instead was to earn enormous sums for contractors like Deloitte Touche and Accenture (along with their Texas lobbyists), while costing taxpayers still more hundreds of millions of dollars—and all without achieving its most basic objectives.

Four years after the plan was implemented in 2003, the Austin American-Statesman published a thorough report on its results, and what the newspaper found was a project “in shambles.” The state had been forced to cancel its contract with the Accenture group and continue to use state employees to perform necessary work on an outdated computer system, exactly the same as before Perry’s privatization scheme began. How much had this great innovation cost the state? Approximately $500 million, not including the amount spent using the old system, at roughly $1 million a month.

Unfortunately this fiasco wasted more than money and time, as paperwork vanished and patients suffered. As the Statesman reported, it may well have cost a 14-year-old boy named Devante Johnson his life. Left without health insurance for several months because of the Texas Medicaid enrollment bureaucracy, the Houston boy could not get treatment in time to save him from the kidney cancer that eventually killed him in March 2007.

While it isn’t clear yet whether his administration’s Medicaid operations were corrupt or incompetent or both, none of this has fazed Perry at all. He went on to reappoint the Texas health and human services commissioner who oversaw the entire mess—and then to run for president himself, as the populist who will “reform” Social Security, Medicare and, of course, Medicaid.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/print/how_texas_medicaid_wasted_vast_sums_lethally_20110 908/

Nbadan
09-10-2011, 12:22 AM
Please let him win, please let him win...


The Rick Perry Investigative News Team over at POLITICO was still feeling nostalgic for Ronald Reagan’s America following the other night’s GOP Supersexxxual Debate about “taxes,” a thing that is fun to debate especially when no one on the stage understands what that word means. So someone started digging around news archives from 1986, which is the year Pixar opened its cartoon shop, “going postal” became a thing, and then-state Rep. Rick Perry “accidentally” sent sex videos to a bunch of teenagers, to teach them about the dangers of drug use.

Innocent Rick Perry was just trying to do his part to educate young minds about the dangers of recreational drugs, by sending an informational video to the schools in his district. Little did he know, they were in for a sinful surprise!

A state technician says a nude scene attached to the end of a videotaped program on drug abuse was not the fault of the lawmaker who provided the tape to a surprised high school audience.

The scene depicting a nude couple in bed was inadvertently attached to a taped drug program sent by state Rep. Rick Perry, D-Haskell, to the 26 schools in his district.

The discovery prompted Perry to recall all the tapes.

Tommy Varner, an assistant coach at Baird High School, said the scene flashed on the screen 30 seconds after the drug awareness program ended.

Varner said he was telling his freshman health class what would be on a test when the eyes of his students became glued on the screen.

“All of them were bug-eyed and looking up there. There were these two people in bed,” he said. “I turned the machine off and tried to go on. It wasn’t easy with 30 kids chuckling and giggling.”

The 45-minute drug tape features noted toxicologist Dr. Harry Edwards discussing his experiences in dealing with drug abusers and rehabilitation, said Dusty Garrison, Perry’s legislative aide.

Garrison said Perry saw the tape – without the added attraction – and wanted schools in his district to benefit from the “excellent program.”

To add to the strange/creepiness of this scenario, the scene was from “1984,” which means that the technician who took “full responsibility” for somehow “accidentally” copying the boring drug movie onto a piece of his personal movie collection was trying to warn everyone of something, and we should have listened. Sorry, 1986 Director of House Technical Services Mike Fickel!

Perry said he was shocked to learn of the scene on the tape he sent to Baird High School. After checking his copy and finding the same scene, Perry said he was convinced all 26 copies had the “embarrassing” scene and he asked that all copies be returned.

“We were doing it for public service, and it backfired on us to a degree,” he said. “We were trying to help kids with drug problems, and now it’s totally ineffective with this five-second skin shot.”

Wonkette (http://wonkette.com/452943/weird-story-surfaces-in-ongoing-search-for-rick-perry-sex-scandal#more-452943)

boutons_deux
09-11-2011, 05:48 AM
Perry Campaign Says It’s Going “Like Wildfire”

Texas Governor Rick Perry is already taking over former Governor Mitt Romney’s status as front runner for the GOP presidential nomination. Now he is trying to win Romney’s other claim to fame – most tone deaf candidate on the trail.

Asked how the fundraising was going, his campaign replied, “it is going like wildfire.”

Read more: http://www.care2.com/causes/perry-campaign-says-its-going-like-wildfire.html#ixzz1Xdj3fi2Q

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:lol :lol :lol

faux-populism Repugs are profoundly empathetic with Human-Americans. :lol