Was 9/11 State Sponsored?

[Nbadan]

More stuff the FBI conveniently forgot to tell the 9/11 commission...

FBI found ties between hijackers and Saudis in Sarasota but never revealed the findings
By Anthony Summers and Dan Christensen
Special to The Miami Herald


Just two weeks before the 9/11 hijackers slammed into the Pentagon and World Trade Center, members of a Saudi family abruptly vacated their luxury home near Sarasota, leaving a brand new car in the driveway, a refrigerator full of food, fruit on the counter — and an open safe in a master bedroom.

In the weeks to follow, law enforcement agents not only discovered the home was visited by vehicles used by the hijackers, but phone calls were linked between the home and those who carried out the death flights — including leader Mohamed Atta — in discoveries never before revealed to the public.

Ten years after the deadliest attack of terrorism on U.S. soil, new information has emerged that shows the FBI found troubling ties between the hijackers and residents in the upscale community in southwest Florida, but the investigation wasn’t reported to Congress or mentioned in the 9/11 Commission Report.

Former U.S. Sen. Bob Graham, the Florida Democrat who co-chaired the congressional Joint Inquiry into the attacks, said he should have been told about the findings, saying it “opens the door to a new chapter of investigation as to the depth of the Saudi role in 9/11. ... No information relative to the named people in Sarasota was disclosed.”

The U.S. Justice Department, the lead agency that investigated the attacks, refused to comment, saying it will discuss only information already released.

The Saudi residents then living at the stylish home, Abdulazzi al-Hiijjii and his wife Anoud, could not be reached, nor could the then-owner of the house, Esam Ghazzawi, who is Anoud’s father. The house was sold in 2003, records show.

For Graham, the connections between the hijackers and residents raise questions about whether other Saudi nationals in Florida knew of the impending attacks, which killed nearly 3,000 people.

The FBI investigation began the month after 9/11 when Larry Berberich, senior administrator and security officer of the gated community known as Prestancia, reported a bizarre event that took place two weeks before the hijackings of four passenger jets that originated in Boston, Newark and Washington.

The couple, living with their small children at the three-bedroom home at 4224 Escondito Circle, had left in a hurry in a white van, probably on Aug. 30.

They abandoned three recently registered vehicles, including a brand-new Chrysler PT Cruiser, in the garage and driveway.

After 9/11, Berberich said he had “a gut feeling” the people at the home may have had something to do with the attacks, prompting the FBI’s probe that would eventually link the hijackers to the house.

As an advisor to the Sarasota County sheriff — Berberich was with the group that received President Bush during his aborted visit to a Sarasota school on the morning of 9/11 — he alerted sheriff’s deputies. Patrick Gallagher, one of the Saudis’ neighbors, had become suspicious even earlier, and had fired off an email to the FBI on the day of the attacks.

Gallagher said law enforcement officers arrived and began an investigation, with agents swarming “all over the place, in their blue jackets,” he recalled.

Jone Weist, president of the group that managed Prestancia, confirmed the arrival of the FBI, which requested copies of the Saudis’ financial transactions involving the house.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/09/07/2395698/link-to-911-hijackers-found-in.html#ixzz1XQsmEK8h


Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/09/07/2395698_p2/link-to-911-hijackers-found-in.html#ixzz1XQsUNVok

I've been saying for years, the 9/11 Commission Report is a fucken joke

...for Mouse

New investigation - NOW!

[Blake]

awesome.

been a while since we've had a 9/11 conspiracy thread to make fun of.

[Wild Cobra]

We all knew the agencies weren't talking to each other, and each had it's own turf.

Have anything new to add to your conspiracy theories Mouse?

[Nbadan]

this collaborates what Sibel Edmonds told us....

Letter to Thomas Kean from Sibel Edmonds


.. To this date the public has not been told of intentional blocking of intelligence..This was the case prior to 9/11, and remains in effect after 9/11. If Counterintelligence receives information that contains money laundering, illegal arms sale, and illegal drug activities, directly linked to terrorist activities; and if that information involves certain nations, certain semi-legit organizations, and ties to certain lucrative or political relations in this country (emphasis mine /jc), then, that information is not shared with Counterterrorism, regardless of the possible severe consequences.

KOS (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/10/1/1955/10277
)

[Wild Cobra]

Really now Mouse...

Sibel...

LOL...

[Nbadan]

awesome.

been a while since we've had a 9/11 conspiracy thread to make fun of.


a bush lover who supports the 9/11 Commission report

Color me shocked!

:rolleyes

[Bobby Boucher]

awesome.

been a while since we've had a 9/11 conspiracy thread to make fun of.

Right, because Big Brother is the only true and credible source on how 9/11 really happened. Let's all scoff him smugly while gnawing on our McDonald's breakfast burritos and drinking coffee at our desk, economically enslaved and loving it.

[JohnnyMarzetti]

Right, because Big Brother is the only true and credible source on how 9/11 really happened. Let's all scoff him smugly while gnawing on our McDonald's breakfast burritos and drinking coffee at our desk, economically enslaved and loving it.

Shouldn't you be drinking H2O?

[Blake]

a bush lover who supports the 9/11 Commission report

Color me shocked!

:rolleyes

color you stupid.

[Blake]

Right, because Big Brother is the only true and credible source on how 9/11 really happened. Let's all scoff him smugly while gnawing on our McDonald's breakfast burritos and drinking coffee at our desk, economically enslaved and loving it.

lol Tyson_Chandler

or rogue.

same shtick, either way. lol.

[ChumpDumper]

That wasn't the title of the article tbh.

[DarrinS]

<sigh> Not this shit again.

[Agloco]

this collaborates what Sibel Edmonds told us....

Letter to Thomas Kean from Sibel Edmonds


KOS (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/10/1/1955/10277
)

Corroborate?

[Spursfan092120]

awesome.

been a while since we've had a 9/11 conspiracy thread to make fun of.

[boutons_deux]

A Year Before 9/11, Intelligence Unit Determined World Trade Center, Pentagon "Most Likely Buildings to Be Attacked"

The "intelligence failures" leading up to the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon are an issue the media - and lawmakers - put to bed years ago, despite the fact that new information continues to trickle out, undercutting the integrity of the official investigations into who knew what and when.

Iron Man further elaborated on this point by stating that high-level DoD officials held discussions about DO5's intelligence activities between the summer of 2000 and June 2001 revolving around al-Qaeda's interest in striking the Pentagon, the World Trade Center (WTC), and other targets.

In other words, the Bush administration was fully aware the terrorist organization had set its sights on those structures prior to 9/11 and, apparently, government officials failed to act on those warnings.

For example, Iron Man states in his letter that in the summer of 2000, DO5 briefed USJFCOM senior intelligence officials and staffers, including the deputy commander in chief, on the "WMD Threat to the U.S."

Iron Man describes a "sensitive," "oral briefing" that took place that summer "indicating that the World Trade Centers #1 and #2 were the most likely buildings to be attacked [by al-Qaeda], followed closely by the Pentagon. The briefer indicated that the worst case scenario would be one tower collapsed onto another."

Furthermore, as he states in his letter, Iron Man was certain that such a scenario was part of a "red cell analysis" discussion that took place prior to the intelligence briefing and included a finding that the buildings "could be struck by a jetliner." He wrote that there was a suggestion about alerting WTC security and engineering or architectural staff, "but the idea was not further explored because of a command climate discouraging contact with the civilian community."

One official who attended the DO5 briefing was Vice Adm. Martin J. Meyer, the deputy commander in chief (DCINC), USJFCOM (Iron Man's complaint does not identify Meyer by name, but notes the presence of the "DCINC" for USJFCOM). But despite the red flags raised during the briefing, Meyer [9] reportedly told Maj. Gen. Larry Arnold, the commander of the Continental United States NORAD Region (CONR), and other high-level CONR staffers two weeks before the 9/11 attacks that "their concern about Osama bin Laden as a possible threat to America was unfounded and that, to repeat, 'If everyone would just turn off CNN, there wouldn't be a threat from Osama bin Laden.'"

Mayer retired from the Navy in 2003 and was hired [10] by defense contractor Lockheed Martin.

Intelligence Withheld From Congress

Even worse, according to Iron Man's letter, the information DO5 had collected about Bin Laden, al-Qaeda and the lead up to 9/11 was withheld from Congress after the House and Senate Intelligence Committees launched an investigation into the attacks.

http://www.truth-out.org/print/6244

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There appears to have been plenty of info available. The questions are why nobody acted on it, and did some dickhead who will remain unamed, looking for an excuse to invade Iraq, order intelligence agents to sit on the info?

[ChuckD]

State sponsored? No. Saudi infused? Just look at the hijackers. It's no great surprise to find other Saudis involved. ObL couldn't possibly have been the only Saudi who hated the monarchy, and by extension, their US Govt supporters.

[SA210]

9/11 Commission was just as much lies and trash as the Warren Commission

[Yonivore]

Corroborate?
I actually think collaborate fits better...

[Yonivore]

this collaborates what Sibel Edmonds told us....

Letter to Thomas Kean from Sibel Edmonds


KOS (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/10/1/1955/10277
)
Actually, the public has been told of the wall Jamie Gorelick built between law enforcement and intelligence. I remember her "wall" memo being made public not long after the September 11 attacks.

Most people, in this forum, poo poohed it as an attempt to deflect blame to Bill Clinton.

It was pointed to as one of the leading reasons the terrorists were able to pull off the attacks before being detected.

[Yonivore]

Memos show Gorelick involvement in ‘wall’ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/apr/29/20040429-122228-6538r/)

From 2004.

[Nbadan]

This has nothing to do with any Gorelick wall Sherlock....even though, there was no wall...this was about facts that were not revealed to the 9/11 commission by the Bush Administration...

More digging on this cat Abdulazzi al-Hiijjii provides some close links...


The Sarasota revelations parallel earlier information about a Saudi government employee who had lived in California for years, Graham said. That man, Omar al-Bayoumi, had paid for a San Diego apartment for two of the hijackers, funneled them money and then left the United States in July 2011.

Graham thinks Bayoumi and the Sarasota husband and wife, as well as her wealthy father could have helped form a shadow support system for the hijackers.

"These 19 people did not play out this plot as lone wolves,'' Graham said. "The chances that 19 people, most of whom had never been in the U.S., who did not speak English, and most of whom did not know each other, could have completed training, practiced and executed such a complicated plot defies common sense.''

The current administration should re-examine whether hijackers who stayed in New Jersey, Virginia and other U.S. cities also had secret Saudi supporters.

One Saudi living in America before Sept. 11 was Esam Ghazzawi, a financier and interior designer, who had built "a gigantic house'' on two waterfront lots on Longboat Key, according to former neighbor Betty Blair.

"I think he sent his kids to camp here, and that's why he'd come in the summers,'' she recalled on Friday.

In 1995, Ghazzawi and his American wife, Debra, paid $350,000 for a home in Prestancia, a lush gated community in south Sarasota.

Their daughter Anoud moved in, along with her husband, Abdulazzi al-Hiijjii, and their twin babies, neighbors said.

Abdulazzi appeared to be in his 20s, Anoud even younger, said neighbor Tom DiBello, who now lives in Fort Lauderdale. Abdulazzi said he was a student. Anoud was very religious.

"He would come over for a cigarette and a drink and to get away from that praying every two hours,'' DiBello said

The couple's house was elaborately furnished, with Persian rugs, statues and over-sized furniture. The wife's family supposedly had royal connections.

"He said his wife's father was friends with the prince or king or something,'' DiBello said.

Link (http://www.tampabay.com/news/article1190773.ece)

Even one of the heads of the 9/11 commission is asking for Obama to open up the investigation again, and all you closet Bush supporters continue to make asses of yourself

:lol

[ChuckD]

Do you know how many Saudi princes there are Dan? Rich Saudis have kids numbering into the 50s. Now multiply that by every sibling and half sibling in the royal family. Probably hundreds. They're not all going to agree with or support the king, but they are really no different than any other rich Saudis.

[BlackSwordsMan]

What if Obama just came out and said yeah this was an inside job. What would you dumb fuck conspiracy theorists do?

[ChumpDumper]

Actually, the public has been told of the wall Jamie Gorelick built between law enforcement and intelligence. I remember her "wall" memo being made public not long after the September 11 attacks.

Most people, in this forum, poo poohed it as an attempt to deflect blame to Bill Clinton.

It was pointed to as one of the leading reasons the terrorists were able to pull off the attacks before being detected.Actually, you're full of shit, as usual.

[Nbadan]

What if Obama just came out and said yeah this was an inside job. What would you dumb fuck conspiracy theorists do?

Probably the same thing you Bush lovers do....stick a thumb up our collective asses....

[Nbadan]

Do you know how many Saudi princes there are Dan? Rich Saudis have kids numbering into the 50s. Now multiply that by every sibling and half sibling in the royal family. Probably hundreds. They're not all going to agree with or support the king, but they are really no different than any other rich Saudis.


You'd have a point if this was the only connection to upper echelon levels of the Saudi ruling class....wars have been started by fewer things....not saying that this goes to the Royal family itself, just asking if it really needs too?

And if there was a connection, as there appears there was.....what was done to investigate this by the Saudi?

[lefty]

Pretty good video

yuC_4mGTs98

[Blake]

Pretty good video

yuC_4mGTs98

not so much. The intro music was funny though.

At the :55 mark, if he is skeptical of a cessna trained pilot being able to fly a commercial plane perfectly into a bulding, then who does he think flew the plane into the building?

[ChumpDumper]

Pretty good video

yuC_4mGTs98What is his theory?

[Nbadan]

The real 9/11 conspiracy

xisryXR1t3g

[DMC]

911 is city sponsored.

[DMC]

The real 9/11 conspiracy

xisryXR1t3g

I generally dismiss news interview clips where there are missing segments. They can make you answer anything they want by creative editing.

Not saying that's what happened, but it's show business.

[ChumpDumper]

The real 9/11 conspiracy

xisryXR1t3gI'm not going to watch it.

Tell me what you think the real conspiracy is, dan.

[ChumpDumper]

I just noticed both Nbadan and Wild Cobra trust Russian state TV implicitly.