Chargers vs Pattycakes

[Fabbs]

The NFLs best quarterback in Phillip Rivers vs longtime good QB Tom Brady, cheating cameras not withstanding. Brady with the handicap of no cameras since 2007. Rivers with the handicap of the worst head coach in the NFL.

Week 2 San Diego at New England.

Discuss.

[Monostradamus]

The NFLs best quarterback in Phillip Rivers

Aaron Rodgers says you're a retard.

[dirk4mvp]

When did Caldwell go to San Diego?

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Aaron Rodgers says you're a retard.

So Aaron Rodgers the multi-troll behind the 500 accounts on Spurstalk saying that too?

[Fabbs]

When did Caldwell go to San Diego?
Nope.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=163665&highlight=Norv+Turner+fastest

Norval Turner the coach who is the fastest to reach 100 losses....

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

The NFLs best quarterback in Phillip Rivers vs longtime good QB Tom Brady, cheating cameras not withstanding. Brady with the handicap of no cameras since 2007. Rivers with the handicap of the worst head coach in the NFL.

Week 2 San Diego at New England.

Discuss.

pfft...please.

[Axe Murderer]

The NFLs best quarterback in Phillip Rivers vs longtime good QB Tom Brady, cheating cameras not withstanding. Brady with the handicap of no cameras since 2007. Rivers with the handicap of the worst head coach in the NFL.

Week 2 San Diego at New England.

Discuss.

Was Norv Turner ever a special guest in the Simpsons?

tbh we already had a Scioscia appearance so I thought it would be fitting if Turner was in one too for future reference

http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/mike-scioscia-on-the-simpsons_174x203.jpg

[Axe Murderer]

pretty good article here tbh, really great read

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/832139-comparing-all-32-nfl-head-coaches-to-simpsons-characters

[LnGrrrR]

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff311/music_slave21/psim0064.jpg

I like football!

[TIMMYtoZO]

The NFLs best quarterback in Phillip Rivers vs longtime good QB Tom Brady, cheating cameras not withstanding. Brady with the handicap of no cameras since 2007. Rivers with the handicap of the worst head coach in the NFL.

Week 2 San Diego at New England.

Discuss.


:lmao:lmao

Oh, and thank you for giving us Eli. Rivers is a cocky sob who is nothing but a fucking loser. No way the Giants win the sb in 2008 with him at the helm. Overrated bigtime. Eli> Rivers

[Fabbs]

pretty good article here tbh, really great read

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/832139-comparing-all-32-nfl-head-coaches-to-simpsons-characters
Interesting, but i was disappointed with Norval being assigned to Dr. Hibbert.

[Fabbs]

Henne shredded the Patsie D for 416 yards so PRivs should be able to do his own shredding. Unfortunately for the Patsies he will not be playing with a shredded ACL so they will have to rely on coach Norval Turner to come thru again.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Anyone who thinks Henne played well/looked good last night/shredded anything didn't watch the game.

[vander]

:lmao:lmao

Oh, and thank you for giving us Eli. Rivers is a cocky sob who is nothing but a fucking loser. No way the Giants win the sb in 2008 with him at the helm. Overrated bigtime. Eli> Rivers

*sigh* if only Samuels had held on, or those Pats D linemen had held on, or Tyree hadn't held on.

:depressed

[DeadlyDynasty]

pretty good article here tbh, really great read

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/832139-comparing-all-32-nfl-head-coaches-to-simpsons-characters

Chan Gailey as Ralph Wiggum...how apropo:rollin

[midnightpulp]

Lol Chargers.

[Bill_Brasky]

:lmao:lmao

Oh, and thank you for giving us Eli. Rivers is a cocky sob who is nothing but a fucking loser. No way the Giants win the sb in 2008 with him at the helm. Overrated bigtime. Eli> Rivers

With the Steve Smith trade the iggles now have Elis 2 favorite receivers, the other one being Asante Samuel :lol

[LnGrrrR]

*sigh* if only Samuels had held on, or those Pats D linemen had held on, or Tyree hadn't held on.

:depressed

I was deployed for that SB, watched it at 2 in the morning. I was the only person in a room of 20 cheering for the Pats.

You know how much time you have on a deployment to go over your teams mistakes? Way too much time is the answer.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Chargers better be prepared for the no-huddle or this'll get ugly quick.

[Monostradamus]

:lol NE's pass defense is so fucking bad.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

How the fuck did they let Floyd come up with that?

[Monostradamus]

Run D is legit but doesn't matter when your corners can't cover shit.

[Monostradamus]

are you fucking kidding me?????

[Monostradamus]

Why run the ball at all? Just have Rivers throw it EVERY SINGLE PLAY because the pass rush can't get to him and the secondary blows.

[Monostradamus]

okay well I guess that's why you run the ball.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

well that was remarkably easy for SD

[Monostradamus]

:lol god damn this defense sucks.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I know it's early, but it looks like Devin McCourty plans massively regressing from his rookie year to his sophomore year a la Darius Butler.

[IronMexican]

:lol Pats fans on a football forum saying he's betta den Haden.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Last year he was just as good as Haden. No way of knowing he'd randomly start blowing ass.

[Monostradamus]

At least we know to expect Dowling to suck next year.

[Monostradamus]

dat no huddle

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

converting on 1st and 20 like it aint shit :lol

[Monostradamus]

lol :cry gotta fake an injury to stop this curbstomping :cry

[Lincoln]

lol :cry gotta fake an injury to stop this curbstomping :cry

Thought the same shit :lmao

[Monostradamus]

:lol apparently Brady called Philips out on his pussy fake injury move

[Axe Murderer]

gay

im getting Houston @ Miami instead of this one

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

gay

im getting Houston @ Miami instead of this one
http://www.justin.tv/mikeyg74#/w/1788686624


(I'm deleting this in a few minutes since we're not allowed to :crypost illegal feeds:cry)

[Monostradamus]

:lol makes no sense to give Woodhead carries up the middle. That's what BJGE is fucking for.

[Monostradamus]

14-10 Chargers with the lead.

[Monostradamus]

Ghost seems shaky too. Last week he missed one so bad I wanted Bill to cut him on the spot.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lol makes no sense to give Woodhead carries up the middle. That's what BJGE is fucking for.
Makes no sense to have Woodhead on the field on anything other than 3rd down shotgun formations.

[Axe Murderer]

:lol New England Patriots vs Detroit Chargers

[DeadlyDynasty]

Great coverage, Brady had all day

[Monostradamus]

Saw that flag coming a mile away

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Wow are you fuckin kidding me

[Monostradamus]

:lol Phil Simms is retarded. It's cuz he lead with his helmet

[Monostradamus]

oh fuck my life

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Holy hell this defense can't get any pressure

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lmao wow

[Monostradamus]

:lol Phyllis wasting a timeout when a TD is inevitable.

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol Wowwwwww..

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

bend but don't break :lmao

[Monostradamus]

FUCK YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh yeah JEROD MUTHAFUCKIN MAYO

[LnGrrrR]

Stopped! Time for another 99 yd TD... lol

To be honest, I don't think the Pats need to embody the "Bend don't break" quite so much.

[Monostradamus]

seriously, why run? Pats pass defense is such shit that I'd go 5 wide on 4th and 6 inches.

[Monostradamus]

:lol Bob Sanders getting owned by Brady per usual

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

OhSoStinko

[LnGrrrR]

Ochocinco read the playbook this week.

[Monostradamus]

:lmao woodhead

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Great block Woodcuck

[LnGrrrR]

Just because...

lol colts
lol cowboys

[LnGrrrR]

Fucking Brady! :lol 12 years to throw that one

Damn flag...Nvm.

I need to start Gronkowski.

[Lincoln]

Brady is just phenomenal god damn

[Monostradamus]

:lol how many times has Norv played NE and Brady? And he still gives Brady time and doesn't blitz him up the middle?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

http://blog.mlive.com/fireupchips/2009/03/large_gronkowski.bmp

[Monostradamus]

Seriously, just blitz up the middle and Brady suddenly turns into 4th quarter Romo. It's that easy, how does Norv not know this?

[Monostradamus]

Hernandez/Gronk might be the 2 best TE's in the league right now.

[Monostradamus]

tbh Gronkowski is white but he's still a n!ggerbeast

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

tbh Gronkowski is white but he's still a n!ggerbeast
He has n!ggersized hands tbh. Having the size of black hands and the finesse of white hands is basically the best of both worlds.

[Monostradamus]

:lol Pat Chung is that nigga

[Monostradamus]

I can't decide who's worse, Bodden or McCourty

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

lol me thinking Bodden and McCourty this year would be their best tandem at corner since Law and Poole

[Monostradamus]

:lol remember the old days when Rodney Harrison got curbstomped on a weekly basis by any TE he went up against?

Good thing we got Chung.

[Monostradamus]

son of a bitch

[Monostradamus]

:lmao WILFORK!

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lmao THAT nigga

[Lincoln]

:lmao wilfork

[Monostradamus]

:lmao Phyllis Rivers
:lmao getting cuckolded by Wilfork

[LnGrrrR]

LololololOllolololololololololol

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lmao McCourty still finds a way to fuck it up

[LnGrrrR]

Seriously, just blitz up the middle and Brady suddenly turns into 4th quarter Romo. It's that easy, how does Norv not know this?

Good question tbh

[Lincoln]

Crofl free play

:lmao chargers

[Lincoln]

2 free plays :lmao

[Monostradamus]

Ghost won't make this

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol Norv Turner is such a shitty coach..

[LnGrrrR]

Lol where's faggs?

[Monostradamus]

Ghost won't make this! I make bad predictions!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/1/14/20091009163519!Ralph_Wiggum.png

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

they shoulda just fired Turner and promoted Ron Rivera to head coach

[Monostradamus]

Lol where's faggs?

He's been lurking, waiting for a shot to talk some shit. Unfortunately his gay ass team isn't helping him out :lmao

[DeadlyDynasty]

lol Wilfork...that was epic

[LnGrrrR]

Brady at the half:

20/23, 240 yds, 2TDs

Sick.

[LnGrrrR]

I didn't know we had Thor returning kicks.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Brady at the half:

20/23, 240 yds, 2TDs

Sick.

crofl...Buffalo is fucked next week

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Gronk!

[LnGrrrR]

crofl...Buffalo is fucked next week

DD, you ecstatic being 2-0 right now?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

You coulda almost heard a season drop on that play I saiddddddddddddddddddddd

[san antonio spurs]

You coulda almost heard a season drop on that play I saiddddddddddddddddddddd

No shit

[LnGrrrR]

You coulda almost heard a season drop on that play I saiddddddddddddddddddddd

That replay scared the shit out of me.

[Monostradamus]

You coulda almost heard a season drop on that play I saiddddddddddddddddddddd

Ryan Mallett imho

[Monostradamus]

:lol this is "14-2 in the regular season, one and done in the playoffs" caliber defense

[LnGrrrR]

Pats dominating in the "almost a sack" category.

[Monostradamus]

fucking bodden

[LnGrrrR]

I miss Ty Law.

[Monostradamus]

Hey it took a scuffle for Brandon Spikes to show up doing anything significant

[Monostradamus]

:lmao Phyllis Rivers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Choking little faggot!

[LnGrrrR]

lol bend don't break

[Monostradamus]

This is fun but if the defense doesn't get a whole lot better, they won't win a playoff game.

[LnGrrrR]

This is fun but if the defense doesn't get a whole lot better, they won't win a playoff game.

Agreed. Same problem as last year, getting no QB pressure.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

This is fun but if the defense doesn't get a whole lot better, they won't win a playoff game.

Tom Brady and the offensive line is still the bigger playoff question. The defense wasn't good but it played good enough against the Jets for Tom Brady to win.

[Monostradamus]

Funny how when you never run the ball, suddenly the rhythm and timing necessary are all gone.

[Monostradamus]

Tom Brady and the offensive line is still the bigger playoff question. The defense wasn't good but it played good enough against the Jets for Tom Brady to win.

True, that's partly what I'm getting at. We should be expecting a Brady/O-line chokejob in the playoffs, which is why the defense has to get better and not let Mark Sanchez cuckold them.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Every year I wonder why Slater is kept on the roster then he'll make a play like det

[Monostradamus]

god damn shitty fucking defense

[LnGrrrR]

Why can't the Pats D get off the field on 3d down?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I understand the switch to the 4-3, the linebackers NE has are not in any way equipped to be playing in a 4-3. With the exception of Mayo who'd be a beast regardless, all of their linebackers are 3-4 guys.

[Monostradamus]

well now mass releasing everybody in the secondary seems like a bad idea.

[LnGrrrR]

This is kinda a boring game, since NE defense can't stop hemorrhaging yards.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

God these almost sack blitzes are frustrating


You might wanna not leave Rivers' checkdown option wide open when you blitz

[LnGrrrR]

Crap, flag.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Looked clean tbh

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

nevermind sergio had him hooked

[Monostradamus]

This is a game the Pats deserve to lose.

[LnGrrrR]

No way Chargers fail again, right?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

holy hell Rivers is unathletic

[Monostradamus]

:lmao fuck this team

[LnGrrrR]

Wtf McCourty? Why would you leave Jackson? Idiot.

Edit: Didn't leave him, just played like shit.

[lefty]

Fuck

[Monostradamus]

Chargers are gonna win 21-20. Guaranteed.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

That's as much the lack of a pass rush as it is McCourty's fault

[LnGrrrR]

That's as much the lack of a pass rush as it is McCourty's fault

True. I dont know how they can get so close, but not finish.

[Monostradamus]

Chargers are gonna start blitzing, Brady will puss out.

[Monostradamus]

Well maybe not, never underestimate Norv's retardedness.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Chargers are gonna start blitzing, Brady will puss out.
With Norvron Wormer as San Diego's coach that'll never happen

[Monostradamus]

might as well, not like the D can stop them anyways.

[LnGrrrR]

Hmm weird play call.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

oh boy

[Monostradamus]

:lol another year of 2nd half collapse ecstasy

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

It made sense to go for it on 4th given San Diego hasn't had any problem getting into NE territory regardless of where they start, but I figured it woulda been a more designed play.

[Monostradamus]

Oh so they pressure Brady a little and he's way off target and making stupid decisions? Oh wow it's not like we haven't seen that in oh, his last few playoff games or anything.

[LnGrrrR]

Holy crap, c'mon D. Stop something.

[Monostradamus]

cue Fabbs any minute now

[Monostradamus]

oh FUCK YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lefty]

Oh yeah

[LnGrrrR]

Recovering a fumble works too.

[Monostradamus]

Jerod THAT nigga Mayo

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

well if they play like this against a team that isn't prone to choking it's a loss

[lefty]

One more bitches

[Monostradamus]

N!ggerbeast Gronkowski

[lefty]

Game over!!!!!

[lefty]

A 2?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

THAT nigga

[lefty]

Woods!!!!

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

how hard can it be to guard these fuckin crossing routes tolbert and matthews have been running the entire god damn game

[LnGrrrR]

Jackson >>>> McCourty

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I hate retarded n!gger corners who go for the pick rather than the pass break up

[LnGrrrR]

Bb, might want to look at double coverage on Jackson.

[Monostradamus]

Weren't Haynesworth and Cunningham supposed to get to the QB?

[Monostradamus]

This whole defense is a mess except for Chung and Mayo.

[Monostradamus]

Gotta score here or this is going to OT.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

They're not gonna switch back this quickly, but moving to a 4-3 is a disaster. They'd be much better off as a 3-4 and making Haynesworth man up and play 3-4 DE.

[Monostradamus]

oh jesus Brady makes some shitty throws when the game is tight.

[Monostradamus]

GRONK! hell yes

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

If he's not already it's only a matter of time before he's the best TE in the NFL

[LnGrrrR]

Argh. My kid just fucking broke my xbkx. Pats better win this now.

[Monostradamus]

Game over.

[midnightpulp]

How come Chugger fans never show up when their shitty, overrated, choke job of a team is getting its ass kicked?

Lol 2nd in power rankings.
Lol Rivers in the Red Zone.
Lol Only AFC West team without a Super Bowl win.
Lol Chargers.

[Monostradamus]

Oh don't hold your hands up Cunningham. you did jack shit all day until the game was fucking over.

[Monostradamus]

lol oh that wasn't even cunningham :lmao

[Pelicans78]

Getting rid of Brees and Marty has really worked out well for the Chargers. Rivers and Norv Turner just aren't getting it done. Brees/Marty never lost to Brady/Belichek. Chargers would have easily won a Super Bowl or 3 with Brees. Rivers has had better teams around him, especially defensively and hasn't gotten it done.

[Pelicans78]

But yeah, the Pats are fucking hard to stop. Brady is just Brady. Surgeon, assassin, and he does it calmly.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Getting rid of Brees and Marty has really worked out well for the Chargers. Rivers and Norv Turner just aren't getting it done. Brees/Marty never lost to Brady/Belichek. Chargers would have easily won a Super Bowl or 3 with Brees. Rivers has had better teams around him, especially defensively and hasn't gotten it done.
Getting rid of Marty was dumb but replacing Brees with Rivers was only a bad move in the eyes of Saints fans.

[Pelicans78]

Getting rid of Marty was dumb but replacing Brees with Rivers was only a bad move in the eyes of Saints fans.

It made sense when it happened and Rivers has been very good overall. Brees was hurt, Rivers was the high draft pick, and the move made sense. But it's cost them a ring or two, especially in 2006 when the Bolts were clearly the most stacked team in the league and Rivers couldn't get it done. He's had two horrible losses at home in the playoffs and basically watching the game today, it's easy to see why. He has all the tools, but something's missing.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

It made sense when it happened and Rivers has been very good overall. Brees was hurt, Rivers was the high draft pick, and the move made sense. But it's cost them a ring or two, especially in 2006 when the Bolts were clearly the most stacked team in the league and Rivers couldn't get it done. He's had two horrible losses at home in the playoffs and basically watching the game today, it's easy to see why. He has all the tools, but something's missing.
Yeah 2006 was completely Rivers' fault. If Brees was the starting QB, San Diego's defense wouldn't have fumbled away a game winning interception or fumbled a punt giving New England great field position.


That was totally Rivers' fault!

[Pelicans78]

Yeah 2006 was completely Rivers' fault. If Brees was the starting QB, San Diego's defense wouldn't have fumbled away a game winning interception or fumbled a punt giving New England great field position.


That was totally Rivers' fault!

Yeah Mcree was an idiot for fumbling it away, but that game should have been over earlier. The Chargers were clearly superior, but Rivers was meh that game. That game should have been over sooner. The Bolts were better across the board except QB.

[Spurminator]

What happened to Gates in this game?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Yeah Mcree was an idiot for fumbling it away, but that game should have been over earlier.
That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard/read.

"Yeah, maybe all Marlon McCree had to do was fall down on the interception and the game woulda been all but over, but it's Phillip Rivers' fault that the defense fumbling a 4th quarter interception even mattered! A real quarterback can't expect his teammates to do things like not fumble interceptions or not fumble punt returns! That might have been Phillip Rivers' first playoff game ever, but it's his fault that he needed his defense to do something as extreme as not fumble a game winning interception!"

[Pelicans78]

That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard/read.

"Yeah, maybe all Marlon McCree had to do was fall down on the interception and the game woulda been all but over, but it's Phillip Rivers' fault that the defense fumbling a 4th quarter interception even mattered! A real quarterback can't expect his teammates to do things like not fumble interceptions or not fumble punt returns!"

That's not even the point. Rivers was crappy that game. They weren't winning because of him. LT was having a big game, Chargers defense was all over Brady yet Rivers was subpar. That game should have been a blowout. And then Rivers is subpar at home against the Jets two years ago when the Chargers were clear favorites.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

They weren't winning because of him.
They didn't lose because of him. You're also forgetting his role in 2006 was to basically be a game manager and take a backseat to LT. It was his first playoff game ever against the most seasoned, experienced team he coulda possibly faced. You won't find any non-Saints fan who thinks he lost that game or that Brees woulda done any better than Rivers has since becoming the Charger's starter.

[Fabbs]

I too was disappointed in Rivers only getting 378 yds today.

Also, at 20-14 with the ball in Patsy territory (again), it was his fault Tolbert took the handoff, had a running lane, but decided to dancy dance step backwords like he was Deon Sanders and ended up fumbling.

4th and 6 inches way to puss out and try to run it sideways Norv.

[Monostradamus]

What happened to Gates in this game?

Part of it was Pat Chung shutting him down. The other part was that throwing to Gates wasn't necessary since every other receiver was wide open cuz of NE's shitty pass defense.

[JoeTait75]

The Bolts were better across the board except QB.

http://susanshan.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Marty-Schottenheimer.jpg

[Monostradamus]

Wait wait wait JoeTait, I thought Belichick was just some fraud who hit the lottery with Brady? or do you just hate Marty that much?

[DeadlyDynasty]

I like the Chargers chances if they meet NE again in the playoffs. Brady went crazy again and if not for a couple fuck-ups (not punching it in at the goal line, freak wilfork INT, and tolbert's fumble) then it'd been a different game. The New England pass D is atrocious. Rivers going off is understandable, but Henne?

Brady will get them by through the regular season if he continues his MVP play, but sooner or later that pass D's gonna bite them in the ass come playoff time.

[JoeTait75]

Wait wait wait JoeTait, I thought Belichick was just some fraud who hit the lottery with Brady? or do you just hate Marty that much?

Exaggerate much? I don't remember calling Belichick a "fraud." Want to post where I did?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I'm pretty sure you even called Belichick a defensive genius :lol

Looking back on it and looking at how KC has collapsed this year, I'd say Charlie Weis was just as if not more responsible for Brady's development than Belichick. Horrible head coach, but one of the best offensive coordinators of all time. I have a feeling he's gonna turn Florida into a powerhouse pro-style offense in the SEC once they have enough time to recruit more players who fit a prostyle offense. Brantley already looks way better this year than he was last year.

Bill O'Brien is a huge upgrade over Josh McDaniels and he's growing as the new offensive coordinator, but if Charlie Weis was still the offensive coordinator for New England, they slaughter the Jets last year and probably win a superbowl.

[Monostradamus]

I'm pretty sure you even called Belichick a defensive genius :lol

The fuck he did. He said he was a good DC.


So do you truly think Belichick is just some okay defensive coordinator who hit the jackpot with Brady?


To a certain extent, yes. .....

But he was NOT a good head coach overall.......

But yeah, I do think Tom Brady has propped him up to an extent- more so than Belichick propping Brady up, at least.

[Monostradamus]

Exaggerate much? I don't remember calling Belichick a "fraud." Want to post where I did?

You didn't say fraud specifically. So you like him better than Schottenheimer?

[lefty]

Anyway, nothing really convincing from the Pats


They are gonna get raped in the playoffs



FML :pctoss

[JoeTait75]

The fuck he did. He said he was a good DC.

Wrong. I said he was a "very good defensive mind," which he is. I said he wasn't a good head coach overall in Cleveland, which is also true- I think even he would admit as much.

What's funny is that you took the time to post what I said, yet you still misquoted me. :lol

[Booharv]

Looking back on it and looking at how KC has collapsed this year, I'd say Charlie Weis was just as if not more responsible for Brady's development than Belichick. Horrible head coach, but one of the best offensive coordinators of all time.

Everybody bags on Whitlock but he completely and utterly nailed this before last season was even over.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/kansas-city-chiefs-are-legit-but-coach-todd-haley-is-a-fraud-010311

[ducks]

got back from dbacks game
chargers would have won if they did not turn the ball over
no catches for gates
did not expect chargers to win they always start slow
rivers is not sharp this year yet
4 turnovers inside pats 20:depressed

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I agree with that article except for the retarded part about what he did as the Cardinal's offensive coordinator. Fitz has given Haley credit countless times for making him a receiver who does more than streak downfield and make circus catches. Other than clashing with Boldin in the NFC championship game he did a great job in Arizona.

He is a horrible head coach though. It's obvious he meddled too much and drove Weis out of KC. Scott Pioli is also extremely overrated. The Patriots' draft classes have had more depth, more impact, and less busts since Pioli went to KC. Pioli's last several draft classes in New England were awful and rarely produced impact players taken after the 1st round. One reason why BB has hoarded picks so much from 2009-2011 is because he knew the team needed to replenish its depth and overall talent because of how shitty the 2006-2008 drafts ended up.

[vander]

my goodness, Malcolm Floyd is better than I thought he was.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Chargers have some big targets at WR (and TE)...if Matthews continues to improve in the running game then SD will be nasty. Their schedule is favorable, and 12 wins w/ a bye is definitely not out of the question.