Help me find/build a better computer

[MannyIsGod]

Considering buying this:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=254067&sku=H24-1533&SRCCODE=WEM2818BY&cm_mmc=email-_-Main-_-WEM2818-_-tigeremail2818

Its cheap - it does what I want - and its not much space. Can I do better considering those qualifications?

[PM5K]

What do you have now and why are you buying something else?

[Jt.ONE]

rofl specs are pretty shitty

what are you planning to do with it?

[leemajors]

you may wanna wait a bit if you can for the new atom chipset if you want something like this.

[MannyIsGod]

The lack of size and space saving are what attracted me to this but honestly I should just buy another laptop which would have similar specs at that price. Most intensive work to be done on a machine like this for me would be some dreamweaver usage. I think a laptop would be a better choice though.

[Jt.ONE]

The lack of size and space saving are what attracted me to this but honestly I should just buy another laptop which would have similar specs at that price. Most intensive work to be done on a machine like this for me would be some dreamweaver usage. I think a laptop would be a better choice though.


*thumbs up

[cheguevara]

crappy specs. 2GB ram? amd? worthless.

[cheguevara]

here you go

http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/cdetland.to?poid=2000005873&src=MAKX&cm_mmc=Affiliates-_-Linkshare&siteID=CPqWkHwkNyo-X.16F2DPnQPTC0PSlhIZzQ

[Heath Ledger]

Manny i have an employer account with hp may be able to save you some doe on higher end model of the all in one hp pc if you want me to take a look give me your budget

[Drachen]

I just bought an asus k53a-bbr9 laptop for 479. its got an i5 sandy bridge, 500 GB hd, 4 GB ram, full keyboard with ten key, and a 15.6 in screen. Great deal.

[Drachen]

oh and its thin and only 5.5 lbs (the best buy description says it doesn't have bluetooth, but it does.

[MannyIsGod]

That HP I was looking at was only 299. You guys have gone up in price like 200 bucks. :lol

Obviously spending more money will get you more computer.

[Drachen]

right, but you were also talking about a laptop, and it is a great deal.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

You should check out Microcenter. I think they ship.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?sku=371617

Yes, refurbished.

[Wild Cobra]

Look at Sears.com, and check out the range of Toshiba laptops they have available. They have credit available if needed.

[MannyIsGod]

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?sku=371617

Yes, refurbished.

Damn - nice find.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

They have some of the better prices that I've seen out there.

[Heath Ledger]

Woot had a sick deal on a refurbed hp quad core with 8 gigs ram 700 gig hard drive and blu ray for $299 about a week ago.

[MannyIsGod]

Woot had a sick deal on a refurbed hp quad core with 8 gigs ram 700 gig hard drive and blu ray for $299 about a week ago.

Wow that is a pretty sick deal.

[jacobdrj]

Wow that is a pretty sick deal.

Do you want a desktop or a laptop?

I would say that getting a new computer with the AMD A series will give you the most balanced system, i.e. bang for your buck.

However, if you don't think you will ever be doing any kind of 3D anything, getting even a triple core system will be a very nice thing, and better than the IP, which for a desktop is a POS.

For a desktop entry level system, AMD is just fine. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. It just depends on what kind of chip. Phenoms are fine, the A8's are fine. The E and C series are garbage for anything but netbooks.

Your bottleneck will be your hard drive anyways.

Something like this would be a FANTASTIC system for you:

http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspx?cm_sp=ShellShocker-_-735559-_-09192011_1

Just need an OS and a screen.

[MannyIsGod]

Not sure why you linked me to that jacket but honestly I needed something like for biking while it rains so thanks!

:lmao

[jacobdrj]

Not sure why you linked me to that jacket but honestly I needed something like for biking while it rains so thanks!

:lmao

It was a newegg shell-shocker deal. They alternate every few hours.
That kit is no longer available... But here is another comparable one... Just needs a HDD (and of course an OS, KB and mouse)...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.719536

[Drachen]

It was a newegg shell-shocker deal. They alternate every few hours.
That kit is no longer available... But here is another comparable one... Just needs a HDD (and of course an OS, KB and mouse)...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.719536

LOL, look back at the website on the main page.... Upcoming shell shocker deal at 1pm is a logitech wireless keyboard and mouse!!!

[leemajors]

http://sellout.woot.com/sale/hp-pavilion-intel-dual-core-notebook-with-17-3-brightview-led-display-2?utm_source=Daily+Digest&utm_campaign=6f9f5ab7b4-Daily+Digest+-+20110922+-+Shirt.Woot&utm_medium=email

[leemajors]

I'm finally upgrading - i5 2500k, 16GB RAM, ASROCK|Z68 EXTREME3 GEN3, and a COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus. Keeping my old vid card for a few months but the speed bump coming from a dual core E6850 (which I have had for about 4 years and have never had any issues with) at 3.0 GHz. I also just picked up a 24" Samsung LED monitor since my work 27" iMac was shaming the shit out of my old 22" widescreen LCD.

[resistanze]

Those 2500k and 2600k chips are monsters, from what I've heard. Can reach 4.5 Ghz easily.

[leemajors]

I'd been waiting for Bulldozer benchmarks, and they came out today. AMD got shitted on, again.

[Cry Havoc]

I'd been waiting for Bulldozer benchmarks, and they came out today. AMD got shitted on, again.

Ehhhh, not completely. They're meant for long-threaded processes and in that respect they do very well (sometimes even besting) Intel's chips. Keep in mind AMD is usually a price bracket lower than Intel, so that could help them.

But yeah, gaming performance is incredibly disappointing. They're even slower in some instances than the X6.

[leemajors]

Ehhhh, not completely. They're meant for long-threaded processes and in that respect they do very well (sometimes even besting) Intel's chips. Keep in mind AMD is usually a price bracket lower than Intel, so that could help them.

But yeah, gaming performance is incredibly disappointing. They're even slower in some instances than the X6.

I was just disappointed after them pushing the release back so much.

[TDMVPDPOY]

the bd is in the price range of the i5 2500k...its easy which one to pick...

[Jt.ONE]

lol amd faildozer. 8 cores of uselessness

[TDMVPDPOY]

i dont think its actually 8 cores

more like 4 cores with each core has 2 cores within...

[Useruser666]

i dont think its actually 8 cores

more like 4 cores with each core has 2 cores within...

Yeah. I think it's 4 cores, 8 with hyperthreading. The computers at work had hyperthreading disabled by default for some reason. Turned it on in the bios, now shows as 8.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Yeah. I think it's 4 cores, 8 with hyperthreading. The computers at work had hyperthreading disabled by default for some reason. Turned it on in the bios, now shows as 8.

you bought a bd?

[Useruser666]

you bought a bd?

No, not me personally.

[Useruser666]

Yeah. I think it's 4 cores, 8 with hyperthreading. The computers at work had hyperthreading disabled by default for some reason. Turned it on in the bios, now shows as 8.

Not quite:

Basic descriptionAccording to AMD, Bulldozer-based CPUs are be based on GlobalFoundries' 32 nm Silicon on insulator (SOI) process technology and utilize a new approach to multithreaded computer performance that, according to press notes, "balances dedicated and shared computer resources to provide a highly compact, high core count design that is easily replicated on a chip for performance scaling."[4] In other words, by eliminating some of the redundancies that naturally creep into multicore designs, AMD hopes to take better advantage of its hardware capabilities, while using less power.

As of November 2009, Bulldozer-based implementations built on 32nm SOI with HKMG are scheduled to arrive in 2011 for both servers and desktops. The server segment includes the dual chip 16-core Opteron processor codenamed Interlagos (for Socket G34) and single chip 4–8 core Valencia (for Socket C32), while the 4–8 core Zambezi will target desktops on Socket AM3+.[5][6]

Bulldozer will be the first major redesign of AMD’s processor architecture since 2003, when the firm launched its Athlon 64/Opteron (K8) processors, and will feature two 128-bit FMA-capable FPUs which can be combined into one 256-bit FPU. This design is accompanied by two integer cores each with 4 pipelines (the fetch/decode stage is shared). Bulldozer will also introduce shared L2 cache in the new architecture. AMD calls this design a "Bulldozer module". A 16-core processor design would feature eight of these modules,[7] but the operating system will recognize each module as two physical cores.

The module, described as two cores, can be contrasted with a single Intel core with HyperThreading. The difference between the two approaches is that Bulldozer provides dedicated schedulers and integer units for each thread, whereas in Intel's core all threads must compete for available execution resources.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulldozer_(processor)

[leemajors]

Got everything set up, encoding times drastically slashed, yay.

http://lifehacker.com/5851902/turn-a-low+powered-laptop-into-a-gaming-machine-with-an-external-video-card-dock

[Drachen]

manny, have you purchased anything yet?? I keep seeing stuff, but I don't post it because I figured you would have made a purchase by now.

[DarkReign]

Didnt want to start another thread.

I finally upgraded my VGAs. Went from four gtx295s to a single gtx580.

What a HUGE difference. I was having problems with the 295s playing Witcher2, cards would constantly overheat and lock the system up, forcing a hard restart.

I didnt know what the problem was, so I d/led two programs; Core Temp (for CPU) and EVGA Precision (for GPU). My CPU is golden being liquid cooled but my GPUs were pushing well over 100 degrees C. System would crap out when one of the cores reached ~115.

Bought a 580, installed. Running the game on Ultra settings (no ubersampling, no SSAO, no Bloom), getting 60+ FPS and the new card doesnt get over 70 degrees C.

I left one of the 295s in to handle PhysX. Back in business in a big way with the added bonus of my system not sounding like an aircraft taking off during gameplay.

One thing I got out of this; EVGA Precision is the shit. Works with any and all cards, not just EVGA's. Software overclock, graph out individual settings per GOU for fan speeds all while displaying that info on my LCD keyboard. Badass program.

http://www.evga.com/precision/