Texas A&M and Oklahoma Declare Independence from Texas

[tlongII]

http://outkickthecoverage.com/texas-am-and-oklahoma-declare-independence-from-texas.php

Slowly but surely Texas's arrogance, me-first attitude, and bullying nature has isolated it from other schools in college football. The Longhorns desperately want all the benefits of independence without the hindrance of actually being independent. For years Oklahoma and Texas A&M, the two rivals that helped to make Texas the program that it is, took the incessant provocation from Texas's insistent ambition without response. Other strong schools sick of being held under Texas's boot left. Arkansas leapt to the SEC, Nebraska and Colorado joined the Big Ten and the Pac 12, all of these schools recognized an immutable truth -- Texas would bully them forever.

This left Texas with two major program allies: Texas A&M and Oklahoma.

See, the NFL realized long ago that a league was only as strong as its weakest link. In order to be good, all the teams have to be competitive; there has to be the possibility of anything happening in any given week.

Texas doesn't believe that to be true.

The Longhorns believe that they are the lone star in a sky devoid of other celestial bodies. The heliocentric theory meets football, Texas as the sun, the moon, and the stars.

Finally, Texas A&M had enough.

What was the final impetus, the straw that broke the Longhorn's back?

Texas had the gall to sign a deal with the ESPN to create the Longhorn Network, a nakedly self-serving attempt to brand itself as a stand-alone superpower. The very contract itself prevented the other Big 12 schools from banding together to form any network that included Texas. The Longhorn Network, the TV deal that launched a thousand ships, wasn't just about Texas having its own network, it was about the scope and ambition of the intent. ESPN ponied up $15 million a year over twenty years to carry Texas athletic events, but anyone who read the contract -- and lots of y'all did here -- knew that ultimately Texas wasn't going to be content with showing just one or two football games on the network.

No, in order for this network to make long-range sense it had to include the ultimate prize -- Longhorn football games.

And it had to include more than one of those games, and it had to include high school games, and it had to be clear that Texas wasn't just the Lone Star state's preeminent program, this was about annexation of the nation, Pax Texana. The Longhorn Network had to have something that people actually wanted to watch to make up the 8,760 hours of yearly programming. Cooking with Vince Young and Boating with Cedric Benson is only good for 500 hours a year.

Otherwise, how much shilling for Texas could ESPN really do? (That's a sarcastic question. The answer is, of course, infinity).

Anyone with half a brain could see that the Longhorn Network gave Texas the long-range goal of being independent. Only, you guessed it, in the meantime the Longhorns could have their cake and eat it too. The money of independence with the cushy creature comforts of a conference it dominated. Texas was the baron, the other schools were the serfs. It was separate but equal football, he with the biggest boots wins.

And Texas had the biggest boots around.

But then Texas A&M, the perpetual little brother, finally had enough. The Aggies realized that Texas was committed to going it alone in the future and just using A&M until that day came. So A&M did what Texas believed it would never have the guts to do, A&M joined the SEC.

Then Oklahoma, long used to playing second fiddle to Texas -- even as it waxed the Longhorns on the field -- realized that Texas wasn't interested in anyone but Texas. So Oklahoma looked west to the Pac 12, "The Grapes of Wrath" without the Joads, loaded up its program and decided to head west. (Hopefully going west ends better for the Oklahoma schools than it did for the Joads). Taking Oklahoma State along for the ride an emboldended Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops even said its rivalry game with Texas wasn't necessary anymore.

The rivalry game, by the way, that was already the only major game that garnered the Big 12 national attention.

Suddenly Texas, the school that was going to own the nation, is riding second saddle, clinging to A&M and Oklahoma for dear life.

Only most Longhorn fans haven't realized it yet.

That's because Oklahoma and Texas A&M finally stared down Texas, tumbleweeds blowing past, with both schools poised to fire. Texas blinked first.

Yes, the Big 12 may well survive thanks to the television contracts. And Texas may well make even more money.

But money without good games is a dangerous place to find yourself in a country that is soon to be over run with mega-conferences with mega-weekly contests.

If Texas stays in the Big 12 and plays Texas Tech, Missouri -- assuming it resists SEC overtures --, Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, TCU, SMU and Houston (or two or three other schools that jump to join the Big 12) is that a schedule that is going to make the Longhorns a national power? Throw in a couple of challenging games out of conference and the Longhorns stride across the nation's stage but rarely. Meanwhile Texas A&M, the little brother, will be playing massive national games every week.

After all this does Texas need Texas A&M and Oklahoma as much or more than either school needs Texas?

The answer is yes.

Only those schools have finally messed with Texas and won.

The Longhorns are too scared to join the Aggies in the SEC and won't be able to keep their precious Longhorn Network in the Pac 12. So Texas may have to capitulate to join the Pac12, follow Oklahoma's lead.

What then for Texas, the school that attempted to take over the nation and ended up losing its dominant grip on a region?

Already Texas is frittering away its past rivalries: Arkansas, Texas A&M, and Oklahoma are gone, and schools that should have become major national rivals have left as well, Nebraska and Colorado. The final kicker? All of those schools find themselves in better positions than Texas.

Texas's own naked ambition has isolated the Longhorns. Pax Texana, the era that was supposed to begin with the Longhorn Network, is looking a lot more like Pox Texana, the Longhorns have cursed themselves.

The Longhorn Network may have won Texas the battle, but in the process Texas A&M and Oklahoma have won the war.

[DesignatedT]

:tu

[DMX7]

I don't even have to read this to sense how butthurt it is.

[benefactor]

:cry:cry:cry:cry

[DesignatedT]

:lol who's crying? who's butthurt here? A&M and Oklahoma have moved on to bigger and better things.

[leemajors]

http://espn.go.com/dallas/ncf/story/_/id/6965871/source-oklahoma-sooners-not-decision-pac-12-move-seeking-stability


The University of Oklahoma's leadership is interested in a move to the Pac-12 from the Big 12, but such a move is far from a done deal, as the school's overriding concern remains assuring a stable future for its athletic programs, a source said Tuesday.

[leemajors]

I'll skip the horrible writing in this article and just ask how UT/CU was ever going to be a national rivalry.

[Kermit]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/155/747/didn't%20read%20lol.png?1311976980

[coyotes_geek]

Evidently it's pretty important to longhorn fan that the rest of us know they didn't bother to read this.

[Kermit]

Evidently it's pretty important to longhorn fan that the rest of us know they didn't bother to read this.

http://menversus.com/images/didntread.gif

[pkbpkb81]

OU wants to stay with texas, part of the meeting the other day was OU thrying to talk texas into the pac12

[coyotes_geek]

OU wants to stay with texas, part of the meeting the other day was OU thrying to talk texas into the pac12

Don't bother. Texas fans aren't reading this thread.

[Sisk]

I'll skip the horrible writing in this article and just ask how UT/CU was ever going to be a national rivalry.

Oh so you'll read an article from a company with a horse in the race. Got it!


Evidently it's pretty important to longhorn fan that the rest of us know they didn't bother to read this.

:lmao

[DesignatedT]

OU wants to stay with texas, part of the meeting the other day was OU thrying to talk texas into the pac12

and A&M wants to keep playing texas..... that isn't the point. OU will go with our without them, as will A&M, something Texas thought could never happen to them. Plus, I've heard that meeting was definitely more of Texas begging OU to stay then vice versa.

[Bill_Brasky]

Texas will go where they can keep the LHN. That definitely isn't the Pac-12, because Larry Scott isn't gonna be a doormat for Texas.

I don't mind that Texas is only looking out for itself and wanting all the money it can get(even though they have more than enough being the "big" school in TX, having a gigantic football stadium with premium prices that always sells out, etc), I just hate that they strung everyone along. Why couldn't they just get their network, go indy, and be done with it? The B12 could have replaced them, though not with a program near as big or lucrative, but they could have gone about their business and worked on making the conference stronger, rather than worrying about what Nebraska, Colorado, Aggy, or UT will do.

And yes, I know Beebe deserves a lot of blame for this as well for not standing up to UT.

[leemajors]

Oh so you'll read an article from a company with a horse in the race. Got it!



:lmao

huh? I read it, said the writing was horrible, which it is. I found another article stating that OU wasn't bolting anywhere quite yet, which it appears they are not.

[Blake]

What was the final impetus, the straw that broke the Longhorn's back?

I think he means Aggie's back


After all this does Texas need Texas A&M and Oklahoma as much or more than either school needs Texas?

The answer is yes.

but not bad enough for UT to scrap the LHN in an effort to keep OU and A&M happy.


Only those schools have finally messed with Texas and won.

what exactly did they win that they didn't already have?

self-respect?


The Longhorns are too scared to join the Aggies in the SEC

brave Aggies!


The Longhorn Network may have won Texas the battle, but in the process Texas A&M and Oklahoma have won the war.

again, what exactly did A&M and OU win?

[stretch]

:lol who's crying? who's butthurt here? A&M and Oklahoma have moved on to bigger and better things.

what, getting the shit kicked out of them every week in a stronger conference with corrupt officials?

oh wait, they will have better TAILGATING PARTIES!!!!!!!!!!

[stretch]

Texas will go where they can keep the LHN. That definitely isn't the Pac-12, because Larry Scott isn't gonna be a doormat for Texas.

I don't mind that Texas is only looking out for itself and wanting all the money it can get(even though they have more than enough being the "big" school in TX, having a gigantic football stadium with premium prices that always sells out, etc), I just hate that they strung everyone along. Why couldn't they just get their network, go indy, and be done with it? The B12 could have replaced them, though not with a program near as big or lucrative, but they could have gone about their business and worked on making the conference stronger, rather than worrying about what Nebraska, Colorado, Aggy, or UT will do.

And yes, I know Beebe deserves a lot of blame for this as well for not standing up to UT.

um, no they couldnt have

[Bill_Brasky]

um, no they couldnt have

Yes they could, but as I said not with a school nearly as big or lucrative.

[stretch]

Oh so you'll read an article from a company with a horse in the race. Got it!



:lmao

i think the issue is the fact that there are about 10000 of these articles floating around out there by people who are completely pro-texas or completely pro-a&m or completely pro-whateverthefucktheyare that acts like they know what the hell they are talking about, when in reality, probably not a single one of them knows what they are talking about.

to think that texas is basically completely shitting themselves and will implode if they lose OU and A&M is ridiculous

to think that texas is going to do just as fine if not better without OU and A&M, and wouldnt care less about staying together with them (although i think its safe to say they are far more interested in remaining with OU than A&M for obvious reasons) is ridiculous as well

there is probably some small truths in 2% of each of these articles, which means the other 98% is bullshit.

simply put, let the chips fall and quit acting like you know what the fuck is actually going on. no one does.





well i take it back... there is one thing that we all know is going on. aggie is bleeding out of their ass.

[stretch]

Yes they could, but as I said not with a school nearly as big or lucrative.

who?

Big 12 without Texas AND OU is completely fucked, no matter how you slice it. even if you somehow magically replaced them with Alabama and Florida, or some sort of pair of major rivals with a grand history, it still wouldn't be remotely the same.

Texas, OU, and the various long-term rivalries that they have developed with teams like Okie St, Tech, A&M, and others (but mostly against each other) over the past 100 years is what holds the Big 12 together.

[Blake]

Why couldn't they just get their network, go indy, and be done with it?

scheduling and BCS bowl status would be up in the air.


The B12 could have replaced them, though not with a program near as big or lucrative, but they could have gone about their business and worked on making the conference stronger, rather than worrying about what Nebraska, Colorado, Aggy, or UT will do.


If OU stuck it out, I wonder if they would be enough for the conference to retain AQ status. I think it would.

Seems to me it would be like the Pac 10 was in the mid 00s when it was USC + 9.

[coyotes_geek]

Yes they could, but as I said not with a school nearly as big or lucrative.

If Texas goes independent, why would A&M and OU stick around trying to make a Texas-less Big 12 work when they could just go to the SEC & Pac?

[Bill_Brasky]

If Texas goes independent, why would A&M and OU stick around trying to make a Texas-less Big 12 work when they could just go to the SEC & Pac?

Wait....you left the B12 because of Texas, and now you're saying that if Texas left there would be no reason for anyone to stick around...?

Also, B12 network, attempts to make the conference stronger & more competitive, etc. Losing Texas would hurt no doubt, but it wouldn't necessarily have to be the end of the B12.

[stretch]

If Texas goes independent, why would A&M and OU stick around trying to make a Texas-less Big 12 work when they could just go to the SEC & Pac?

exactly

big 12 even with Texas and OU right now isn't looking particularly appealing these days, especially after losing nebraska

unless they somehow kept OU and Texas, then added BYU, ND, and either TCU or Houston (or both, and extended to 16 teams, all of which is highly unlikely) Big 12 is done.

[stretch]

Wait....you left the B12 because of Texas, and now you're saying that if Texas left there would be no reason for anyone to stick around...?

lol

aggie, a walking contradiction

[pkbpkb81]

Why does everyone keep saying OU is pissed about the lhn? There not the want there own network. OU is not pissed at ut at all, they look at the big 12 without nu or a&m and can see a possibility of being left out of a nc game even when going undefeated, and want to act before that can ever happen.


The message from OU is simple make the b12 strong again or we are gone.




it's not a texas thing

[coyotes_geek]

Wait....you left the B12 because of Texas, and now you're saying that if Texas left there would be no reason for anyone to stick around...?

Yes.


Also, B12 network, attempts to make the conference stronger & more competitive, etc. Losing Texas would hurt no doubt, but it wouldn't necessarily have to be the end of the B12.

It wouldn't have to be the end, but it's certainly not going to be a better option than the SEC or the Pac would be for A&M, OU and OkSt.

[coyotes_geek]

lol

aggie, a walking contradiction

It's only a contradiction if you believe that the big 12 minus texas is a worthwhile conference to be in. I don't.

[stretch]

*sigh*

either we have to deal with dumbass contradictory, asshurt aggies

or

dimwitted, noneducated techies

why is it that an OU fan actually has to be the voice of reason amongst these two retarded fanbases?

[coyotes_geek]

If you'd like to take a stab at explaining how the big 12 minus texas would be a better conference to be in than the SEC you're more than welcome to try.

[Blake]

big 12 even with Texas and OU right now isn't looking particularly appealing these days, especially after losing nebraska


the network signed the $1 billion deal without Nebraska.

If OU and UT stick together in this b12 lite, then the other 8-10 teams are obviously irrelevant to TV contracts and AQ status.

[stretch]

If you'd like to take a stab at explaining how the big 12 minus texas would be a better conference to be in than the SEC you're more than welcome to try.

didnt say it was

as of right now, the Big 12 with both Texas and OU isnt a better conference to be in than the SEC

especially if being in the SEC means you are virtually guaranteed to win 100% of your non-conference home games, and you are spotted undeserved rankings simply because you play in the conference titled SEC

unfortunately, aggie wont benefit from any of this, as they are simply going to be doormats 95% of the time, as they were in the Big 12.

[Blake]

noneducated techies


oxymoron

[stretch]

the network signed the $1 billion deal without Nebraska.

If OU and UT stick together in this b12 lite, then the other 8-10 teams are obviously irrelevant to TV contracts and AQ status.

i mentioned nebraska in terms of competition more than anything, but i get your point

[stretch]

oxymoron

rofl

[Blake]

rofl

hard to find t-shirt techie fans, tbh.

easy to find t-shirt horn fans, tbqh.

[stretch]

hard to find t-shirt techie fans, tbh.

easy to find t-shirt horn fans, tbqh.

neat, tbqh

tech has no one to blame but themselves

[ChumpDumper]

These articles are pretty bad.

[Blake]

neat, tbqh

Meh....is what it is


tech has no one to blame but themselves

Blame for what?

[pkbpkb81]

not having t-shirt fans

[Blake]

not having t-shirt fans

:(

[stretch]

not having t-shirt fans

or any fans for that sake

aside from bill brasky, blake, and axe murderer of course

[Sisk]

Doormats in a conference? Are you talking about texas last season and this season?

[DesignatedT]

especially if being in the SEC means you are virtually guaranteed to win 100% of your non-conference home games, and you are spotted undeserved rankings simply because you play in the conference titled SEC

unfortunately, aggie wont benefit from any of this, as they are simply going to be doormats 95% of the time, as they were in the Big 12.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSrDFaJsEvXvdwl7iXPrXbPbib4E5JoK lYa2A5ykQ7YjAcBEeW5XcZQ1RtH

[DMX7]

Doormats in a conference? Are you talking about texas last season and this season?

Ohh.... how creative.

[Sisk]

Ohh.... how creative.

Fact.

[Sisk]

I really hope texas ends up in the ACC.

"Come to Texas A&M, play in the SEC."

"Come to Texas, play in the ACC." :lmao every recruits dream!

[johngateswhiteley]

*sigh*

either we have to deal with dumbass contradictory, asshurt aggies

or

dimwitted, noneducated techies

why is it that an OU fan actually has to be the voice of reason amongst these two retarded fanbases?


How is A&M bitter, when t.u. is the one not willing to continue the rivalry? By all accounts, t.u. is the bitter one... the most bitter, at the very least.

[ChumpDumper]

"Come to Texas A&M, play in the SEC."

"Come to Texas, play in the ACC." :lmao every recruits dream!More like:

"Come to Texas A&M, play in the SEC."

"Come to Texas."

It's still UT.

[Blake]

How is A&M bitter, when t.u. is the one not willing to continue the rivalry? By all accounts, t.u. is the bitter one... the most bitter, at the very least.

lol at the non-bitter aggie going with "t.u."

You're an idiot.

[Hook Dem]

and A&M wants to keep playing texas..... that isn't the point. OU will go with our without them, as will A&M, something Texas thought could never happen to them. Plus, I've heard that meeting was definitely more of Texas begging OU to stay then vice versa.

Who did you hear that from? Another misinformed aggie?

[tlongII]

Personally I think Texas is making a mistake if they go independant. I would love to see them in the Pac-16, but not if they insist upon monetary advantages over the other schools. I think we had a difficult time convincing USC to walk this path and I think it will be even more difficult to get Texas to agree unfortunately.

[NFO]

I don't think Texas will go independent. I think that is Texas's last option. If the Big 12 crumbles and Texas tries to go independent that would be a scheduling nightmare for them, not in football, but for the rest of its sports that will no longer have a conference. They would have to receive treatment like Notre Dame does, where it is independent in football only and the rest of the sports are in the Big East. Texas I think would have trouble finding another conference to accept them into their conference sans football.

Hopefully the dominos start falling soon.

[Halberto]

http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/did%20not%20read/grand/09379919did_not_read.gif

[Sisk]

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2011-09-14/texas-drove-everyone-away-now-begging-for-acc-acceptance?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl15|sec1_lnk3|95790

Lol everyone in the media shitting on Texas.

[Sisk]

More like:

"Come to Texas A&M, play in the SEC."

"Come to Texas."

It's still UT.

Good luck with that arrogance. It's been working out really well since last year.

[stretch]

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2011-09-14/texas-drove-everyone-away-now-begging-for-acc-acceptance?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl15|sec1_lnk3|95790

Lol everyone in the media shitting on Texas.

an OU fan shitting on Texas? no way...

[stretch]

Good luck with that arrogance. It's been working out really well since last year.

whats even funnier is that A&M had a rare good year, and Texas had their worst season in over a decade, and is still shitting all over A&M by having the #1 ranked recruiting class for next year.

[Sisk]

http://dev.chuckoliver.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Conference-Realignment-CYOA3.html#

Pretty interesting little game.

[Sisk]

an OU fan shitting on Texas? no way...

The only media outlet not ripping Texas is your daddy, ESPN.

[Sisk]

whats even funnier is that A&M had a rare good year, and Texas had their worst season in over a decade, and is still shitting all over A&M by having the #1 ranked recruiting class for next year.

How'd that top ranked class do last year? This year?

Colt McCoy - 3 star
Gilbert - 5 star

I know which one I'd take.

[leemajors]

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2011-09-14/texas-drove-everyone-away-now-begging-for-acc-acceptance?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl15|sec1_lnk3|95790

Lol everyone in the media shitting on Texas.

do people really read the sporting news? serious question. i remember them having decent magazine sales pre-internet

[Sisk]

do people really read the sporting news? serious question. i remember them having decent magazine sales pre-internet

I don't. Just found the link on twitter.

[DMX7]

lol at the non-bitter aggie going with "t.u."

You're an idiot.

The Aggie butthurt runs deep.

[Sisk]

The Aggie butthurt runs deep.

Really, what are we butthurt about? Serious question.

This is a win-win for Texas A&M

[Blake]

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2011-09-14/texas-drove-everyone-away-now-begging-for-acc-acceptance?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl15|sec1_lnk3|95790

Lol everyone in the media shitting on Texas.



Texas will have you believe the ACC is the perfect fit.

Texas will have you believe it’s about academics, not athletics.

Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2011-09-14/texas-drove-everyone-away-now-begging-for-acc-acceptance?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl15|sec1_lnk3|95790#ixzz1Y31iLST2

wtf? who at Texas has said either of these things?

stupid article.

[coyotes_geek]

whats even funnier is that A&M had a rare good year, and Texas had their worst season in over a decade, and is still shitting all over A&M by having the #1 ranked recruiting class for next year.

:tu

Coming off a 5-7 year despite pulling top 5 classes every year is a great time to run recruiting smack.

[Blake]

How'd that top ranked class do last year? This year?

Colt McCoy - 3 star
Gilbert - 5 star

I know which one I'd take.

leave it to an aggie to pick a 3 star recruit over a 5 star.

[ChumpDumper]

Good luck with that arrogance. It's been working out really well since last year.So how did it work out the previous 117 years?

[Sisk]

leave it to an aggie to pick a 3 star recruit over a 5 star.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao

So funny blake!!!!!1111111111111111111111111111111111111111 1111

[Sisk]

So how did it work out the previous 117 years?

It's all about what have you done for me lately in sports. Bottom line. Remember how the Knicks are so badass? Oh, no? No one cares about what happened before, it's about now. And now, texas sucks.

Thanks and gig 'em.

[Blake]

Really, what are we butthurt about? Serious question.

This is a win-win for Texas A&M

you mean Aggie nation as a whole?

aside from being buttswole because UT was established a few years after A&M, but gets all the love, A&M is butthurt about the Longhorn Network.

I thought this had been noted ad nauseum on this message board.

[ChumpDumper]

It's all about what have you done for me lately in sports. Bottom line. Remember how the Knicks are so badass? Oh, no? No one cares about what happened before, it's about now. And now, texas sucks.

Thanks and gig 'em.What has A&M football done lately?

[Blake]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao

So funny blake!!!!!1111111111111111111111111111111111111111 1111

Agreed.

The jokes practically write themselves.

[Sisk]

you mean Aggie nation as a whole?

aside from being buttswole because UT was established a few years after A&M, but gets all the love, A&M is butthurt about the Longhorn Network.

I thought this had been noted ad nauseum on this message board.

We're not butthurt about the longhorn network. It's great that it came along. It helped contribute to us going to the SEC. I'm glad it came along.


What has A&M football done lately?

Well, lately, we beat the shit out of SMU who is predicted to contend for the CUSA championship. Meanwhile, texas struggles against a Rice team in SMU's conference that is considered a door mat in that same conference.

Oh, and we're in the top 10.

[ChumpDumper]

Well, lately, we beat the shit out of SMU who is predicted to contend for the CUSA championship. Meanwhile, texas struggles against a Rice team in SMU's conference that is considered a door mat in that same conference.

Oh, and we're in the top 10.So really nothing, then.

Thanks.

And you're automatic comparison of A&M to UT is pathological. It will never end no matter where you run away.

A&M is obsessed with UT and UT is obsessed with....UT.

lol

[Sisk]

So really nothing, then.

Thanks.


http://wrotemeamanual.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/lol-wut-pear.jpg?w=287&h=320



And you're automatic comparison of A&M to UT is pathological. It will never end no matter where you run away.

A&M is obsessed with UT and UT is obsessed with....UT.

lol

We were talking about what these schools have done lately. Try to keep up. You're perpetually behind.

So obsessed that we're leaving them in the dust to go to another conference. Makes sense.

[stretch]

How'd that top ranked class do last year? This year?

Colt McCoy - 3 star
Gilbert - 5 star

I know which one I'd take.

actually they didnt play last year, nor this year. they will join the team next year.

however, this year, i believe the team is currently undefeated (unlikely to hold, but still undefeated nonetheless), so not much to complain about right now.


but be happy getting a shitload of 3 star recruits, and having a shitty program every year, while big brother is consistently in the hunt for a national championship, last year being the first year in a long time that they werent.

unfortunately, its only going to get worse when you go to the SEC, where you have to try convincing people to join a program thats going to win a whopping 3-4 games every year, as opposed to the 5-6 every year in the B12.

[stretch]

Well, lately, we beat the shit out of SMU who is predicted to contend for the CUSA championship.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

http://wrotemeamanual.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/lol-wut-pear.jpg?w=287&h=320You really haven't done anything lately.

That's wut.


We were talking about what these schools have done lately. Try to keep up. You're perpetually behind.No, I asked you specifically what A&M football has done lately. You're perpetually obsessed.


So obsessed that we're leaving them in the dust to go to another conference. Makes sense.It absolutely makes sense. You wouldn't be leaving if you got your socialist wish of equal money for no particular reason. UT makes more money, so A&M wants to leave.

[Blake]

http://dev.chuckoliver.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Conference-Realignment-CYOA3.html#

Pretty interesting little game.

there are a lot more possibilities that exist out there than are given on that site.

If OU and OSU bolt for the Pac 14, and UT and the remaining b12 teams form a new conference, what makes them think they would stop at only 8?

dumb assumption.

[Sisk]

actually they didnt play last year, nor this year. they will join the team next year.

however, this year, i believe the team is currently undefeated (unlikely to hold, but still undefeated nonetheless), so not much to complain about right now.


but be happy getting a shitload of 3 star recruits, and having a shitty program every year, while big brother is consistently in the hunt for a national championship, last year being the first year in a long time that they werent.

unfortunately, its only going to get worse when you go to the SEC, where you have to try convincing people to join a program thats going to win a whopping 3-4 games every year, as opposed to the 5-6 every year in the B12.

If you're bringing up recruiting smack, we have the #6 class for next year.

Championship hunt every year? Last year? This year? :lmao

Convincing recruits to go to the SEC will be easy. Just got a 4 star from SA due in part to our future conference alignment.

ACC? LOL. I wonder how many kids grow up in TX just dreaming of playing in the almighty ACC. Probably a ton.

[Sisk]

It absolutely makes sense. You wouldn't be leaving if you got your socialist wish of equal money for no particular reason. UT makes more money, so A&M wants to leave.

:lmao

Delusional

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao

DelusionalThen why are you leaving?

And what was your latest game against an SEC opponent? What was the score?

[stretch]

If you're bringing up recruiting smack, we have the #6 class for next year.

neat. UT is #1 in that category


Championship hunt every year? Last year? This year? :lmao

reading, obviously not a strong suit for aggie


big brother is consistently in the hunt for a national championship, last year being the first year in a long time that they werent.



Convincing recruits to go to the SEC will be easy. Just got a 4 star from SA due in part to our future conference alignment.

and then when A&M is getting the shit kicked out of them annually, the number of those recruits will quickly drop back to zero


ACC? LOL. I wonder how many kids grow up in TX just dreaming of playing in the almighty ACC. Probably a ton.

still wondering where this ACC talk actually came from. bored Aggie fans writing articles on things they know absolutely nothing about? oh okay, sounds about right.

[Blake]

So obsessed that we're leaving them in the dust to go to another conference. Makes sense.

"saw 'em off!"

lol no obsession here

[Sisk]

Then why are you leaving?

And what was your latest game against an SEC opponent? What was the score?

41-24 I believe. We lost to LSU.

We're leaving for:

Money (Not because Texas makes more, we won't make more than them being in the SEC, but we will make more than we were making in the B12-2.)
Stability
Exposure

To keep it short, those 3.

[Blake]

still wondering where this ACC talk actually came from. bored Aggie fans writing articles on things they know absolutely nothing about? oh okay, sounds about right.

from what I can tell, Kirk Bohls said in the Statesman how nice a fit UT would be in the ACC.

Unless someone else can find something else, other than other bloggers running with Bohls' blog, that's all I can really find.

[ChumpDumper]

41-24 I believe. We lost to LSU.

We're leaving for:

Money (Not because Texas makes more, we won't make more than them being in the SEC, but we will make more than we were making in the B12-2.)Would A&M make more if UT shared its money?

Yes or no.

[stretch]

And what was your latest game against an SEC opponent? What was the score?

:lmao

back to back shitkickings by Arkansas

[Sisk]

neat. UT is #1 in that category



reading, obviously not a strong suit for aggie



Actually attending the school I root for. Not a strong suit for dumbass sips such as yourself.



and then when A&M is getting the shit kicked out of them annually, the number of those recruits will quickly drop back to zero


:lol



still wondering where this ACC talk actually came from. bored Aggie fans writing articles on things they know absolutely nothing about? oh okay, sounds about right.

The article was from a sooner fan, according to someone else. Nice try, dipshit. The only way the horns get into the PAC is if they compromise quite a bit with their network. Most people are doubting this happens, but it might. B1G isn't happening. SEC isn't. ACC it is.

[ChumpDumper]

So going by what happened lately, A&M is going to suck in the SEC.

[Sisk]

Would A&M make more if UT shared its money?

Yes or no.

Wont happen. We're not in the Big 12 anymore. Next question.


:lmao

back to back shitkickings by Arkansas


LSU, dumbass. Not that I expect you to know anything about college football.

[Sisk]

So going by what happened lately, A&M is going to suck in the SEC.

Looks that way! Only one way to know for sure.

[coyotes_geek]

there are a lot more possibilities that exist out there than are given on that site.

If OU and OSU bolt for the Pac 14, and UT and the remaining b12 teams form a new conference, what makes them think they would stop at only 8?

dumb assumption.

Probably more a case of not really giving a shit about the big 12 poaching some c-usa teams, which is what would likely happen.

[stretch]

from what I can tell, Kirk Bohls said in the Statesman how nice a fit UT would be in the ACC.

Unless someone else can find something else, other than other bloggers running with Bohls' blog, that's all I can really find.

oh, you mean that collumnist that had absolutely nothing from UT to confirm his own personal thoughts as being truths?

gotcha

lol gotta love aggies

for a techie, you arent half bad, blake

[Blake]

Money (Not because Texas makes more, we won't make more than them being in the SEC, but we will make more than we were making in the B12-2.)
Stability
Exposure

To keep it short, those 3.

how much more money will the Ags make (after travel costs)?

how much more exposure will they get that they weren't already getting?

[Sisk]

Lol former co worker of mack brown's being accused of sexual harassment. Had to throw that in.

[stretch]

Actually attending the school I root for. Not a strong suit for dumbass sips such as yourself.

so basically, i dont go to college currently, you do, and i am an exponentially better reader than you?

neat :tu


The article was from a sooner fan, according to someone else. Nice try, dipshit.

oh, so basically the article, ACCORDING TO SOMEONE ELSE comes from a FAN of a team who hates texas and has no insider information whatsoever?

even more neat :tu :tu

[Sisk]

how much more money will the Ags make (after travel costs)?

$1 billion/season



how much more exposure will they get that they weren't already getting?

274% more.

[ChumpDumper]

Wont happen. We're not in the Big 12 anymore. Next question.So it is about UT's making more money.

Thanks for admitting it.


LSU, dumbass. Not that I expect you to know anything about college football.Although they also beat the shit out of you.

[Sisk]

so basically, i dont go to college currently, you do, and i am an exponentially better reader than you?

neat :tu


Really, I don't give a shit if you went to the school you root for or not. You're just an idiot and you need to be informed of that.

[Blake]

So going by what happened lately, A&M is going to suck in the SEC.

From what I have gathered from many of the Aggies on this board in the last few weeks is that getting their shit packed in by Florida and Alabama is much better than having to play teams like Iowa St and Baylor.

it's been great reading :tu

[stretch]

LSU, dumbass. Not that I expect you to know anything about college football.

oh, excuse me, i completely forgot about that assbeating aggies took in the cotton bowl

i was too busy laughing my ass off at an unranked arkansas team beating A&M by 30 points or whatever it was

[Sisk]

So it is about UT's making more money.

Thanks for admitting it.

Point out where I "admitted" anything.



Although they also beat the shit out of you.

We hold the series over the last 35 years. Nice try.





How was UTSA's last game?

[Sisk]

oh, excuse me, i completely forgot about that assbeating aggies took in the cotton bowl

i was too busy laughing my ass off at an unranked arkansas team beating A&M by 30 points or whatever it was

Wrong, again. Arkansas was #11 and won 24-17.

You were available to watch every bowl game, considering your team wasn't in one.

[stretch]

Really, I don't give a shit if you went to the school you root for or not. You're just an idiot and you need to be informed of that.

so I'm an idiot that is an exponentially more capable reader and far more capable of simple comprehension than you are.

what does that make you?

[Blake]

Lol former co worker of mack brown's being accused of sexual harassment. Had to throw that in.

lol wut obsession

[ChumpDumper]

Point out where I "admitted" anything.By running away from the question.


We hold the series over the last 35 years. Nice try.
We were talking about what these schools have done lately. Try to keep up. You're perpetually behind.:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao



How was UTSA's last game?They lost. Now Aggie wants to change the subject. Nice try.

[Sisk]

so I'm an idiot that is an exponentially more capable reader and far more capable of simple comprehension than you are.

what does that make you?

:lmao making shit up

You forgot to include this year. HTH

[stretch]

Wrong, again. Arkansas was #11 and won 24-17.

On October 3rd, 2009 @ 6:30 pm, the Arkansas Razorbacks administered a 47-19 facefucking to the Texas A&M Aggies. The game was played at Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas in front of a crowd of 71,872 people. Neither team was ranked.

Excuse me, earlier I said a 30 point beating. It was a 28 point beating. I stand corrected.

[Sisk]

By running away from the question.

If my aunt had a penis, she'd be my uncle.



You just said it's about what happened lately. Nice try.

We won last year.



They lost. Now Aggie wants to change the subject. Nice try.

No I'm just curious if you care about your alma mater.

[Blake]

Probably more a case of not really giving a shit about the big 12 poaching some c-usa teams, which is what would likely happen.

Would UT - (OU + OSU) + 9 cling-ons keep AQ status?

If/when OU/Osu bolts, that's the question, imo.

[Sisk]

On October 3rd, 2009 @ 6:30 pm, the Arkansas Razorbacks administered a 47-19 facefucking to the Texas A&M Aggies. The game was played at Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas in front of a crowd of 71,872 people. Neither team was ranked.

Excuse me, earlier I said a 30 point beating. It was a 28 point beating. I stand corrected.

I can't make this shit up. That was from 2009. You're here talking about reading comprehension. :lmao

Wow.

[ChumpDumper]

We won last year.Against LSU? I asked you specifically about the last game played against an SEC opponent.


No I'm just curious if you care about your alma mater.You can start a thread in the appropriate forum then.

[Blake]

If my aunt had a penis, she'd be my uncle.


if you had a penis, my guess is you would be trying to fuck your aunt.

[Sisk]

Against LSU? I asked you specifically about the last game played against an SEC opponent.

No, I said we hold the series against texas the last 35 years. Then you quoted me saying it's about what you've done lately.




You can start a thread in the appropriate forum then.

Nope. I'll just ask you here.

[Sisk]

if you had a penis, my guess is you would be trying to fuck your aunt.

Lefty would be proud.

[stretch]

I can't make this shit up. That was from 2009. You're here talking about reading comprehension. :lmao

Wow.

all im saying is the last 3 times A&M played an SEC opponent, they got beat

things arent looking good in their future, based on what they have done most recently, or less recently.

[Sisk]

all im saying is the last 3 times A&M played an SEC opponent, they got beat

things arent looking good in their future, based on what they have done most recently, or less recently.

No, that's not what you were you saying. You were talking shit about reading ability, then you completely fuck up and expose yourself for the idiot that you are.

[stretch]

No, that's not what you were you saying. You were talking shit about reading ability, then you completely fuck up and expose yourself for the idiot that you are.

what the fuck are you talking about?

i said that they played Arkansas twice, and lost both times, including one that I got a good laugh over where they lost badly when Arkansas was unranked

:lmao aggie

[Blake]

Lefty would be proud.

I bet your uncle-dad is proud of you too.

[DMX7]

Wont happen. We're not in the Big 12 anymore. Next question.


As of 3:01 pm, today... A&M is in the Big 12. Baylor & Iowa State say so.

[coyotes_geek]

Would UT - (OU + OSU) + 9 cling-ons keep AQ status?

If/when OU/Osu bolts, that's the question, imo.

I wouldn't think so, but then I'm not sure how easy (legally) it is for the BCS to just tell a conference "no more AQ for you". I'm sure the other AQ conferences would be looking to strip the big12 of that automatic bid so that there would be an extra at large bid out there for one of their teams to benefit from.

[Blake]

I wouldn't think so, but then I'm not sure how easy (legally) it is for the BCS to just tell a conference "no more AQ for you". I'm sure the other AQ conferences would be looking to strip the big12 of that automatic bid so that there would be an extra at large bid out there for one of their teams to benefit from.

As weak as the conference would probably be, I'm not sure how the BCS can tell UT that they are no longer part of an AQ conference.

...especially considering ESPN has exclusive BCS broadcasting rights through 2014.

[Kermit]

Jesus. I go and take a 3 hour shit, come back to mass Aggy faggotry.

[benefactor]

:corn:

[Kermit]

Oh, and lol at someone (Sisk?) posting a Matt Hayes article. That's like posting a John Lopez article and saying, "See? Somebody has something positive to say about Aggy."

[Sisk]

Jesus. I go and take a 3 hour shit, come back to mass Aggy faggotry.

Intestinal problems?

You and I both know all the faggots are in Austin.

[Bill_Brasky]

This thread is entertaining to read.

[Fpoonsie]

In Sisk's limited defense, Corby was talking about a potential TX move to the ACC on The Ticket yesterday here in Dallas, so Sisk's not the only one giving wherever this rumor came from SOME sense of credibility.

[Kermit]

Intestinal problems?

You and I both know all the faggots are in Austin.

Yes. All the glory holes in College Station agree.

[stretch]

In Sisk's limited defense, Corby was talking about a potential TX move to the ACC on The Ticket yesterday here in Dallas, so Sisk's not the only one giving wherever this rumor came from SOME sense of credibility.

Corby is an extreme OU fan, and I don't recall his having any more credibility than an article by a guy speculating.

I could be wrong though, I listen to the ticket every day pretty much all day during work. I don't recall him having anything of substance to it though.

[Fpoonsie]

Yes. All the glory holes in College Station agree.


In A&M's limited defense, at least the sheep are female.

[coyotes_geek]

I'm not sure how the BCS can tell UT that they are no longer part of an AQ conference.

...especially considering ESPN has exclusive BCS broadcasting rights through 2014.

Found the BCS website. Looks like the BCS uses some goofy formula (shocking, I know) to determine which conferences get to be AQ.


The evaluation data include the following for each conference (1) the ranking of the highest-ranked team in the final BCS Standings each year, (2) the final regular-season rankings of all conference teams in the computer rankings used by the BCS each year, and (3) the number of teams in the top 25 of the final BCS Standings each year.

So, it looks like there isn't a human decision involved and the big 12's AQ status would depend on more than just Texas.

[Fpoonsie]

Corby is an extreme OU fan, and I don't recall his having any more credibility than an article by a guy speculating.

I could be wrong though, I listen to the ticket every day pretty much all day during work. I don't recall him having anything of substance to it though.

True. He's a very outspoken OU homer, but he seems to know his shit when it comes to college football, biased or otherwise.

Slightly off-topic, but where is Bob and when is he getting back???

[DMX7]

Advice for Aggies - Don't drink from the Glory Hole.

Or maybe you should if it means some sheep are spared. Poor sheep.

[Sisk]

Since we're attacking any and all sources - no more ESPN articles regarding texas. Writers may be fans of OU/A&M, but they don't have a substantial investment in the team.

[Fpoonsie]

Advice for Aggies - Don't drink from the Glory Hole.

Or maybe you should if it means some sheep are spared. Poor sheep.

Already stale.

Try and keep up.

[Sisk]

Already stale.

Try and keep up.

We're talking about DMX here, Fpoonsie.

[DMX7]

Uh-oh... A second round of butthurt has been unleashed.

Look Out!

[coyotes_geek]

Advice for Aggies - Don't drink from the Glory Hole.


Good to know! Thanks for sharing your expertise about glory holes with the rest of us. :tu

[Fpoonsie]

Uh-oh... A second round of butthurt has been unleashed.

Look Out!

lol thinking your joke that fell Keira Knighley-flat actually upset anyone

[Bill_Brasky]

Honest question here:

What has Texas done, outside of LHN, that most of, if not all, NU, OU and A&M, and to a lesser extent Tech, were not in agreement on?

[Kermit]

Good to know! Thanks for sharing your expertise about glory holes with the rest of us. :tu

You guys are the experts, right? Or are you a 2%er?

[Fpoonsie]

You guys are the experts, right? Or are you a 2%er?

Admittedly, vastly funnier than DMX's.

[Kermit]

hbtBHP4s-3A

[DMX7]

lol thinking your joke that fell Keira Knighley-flat actually upset anyone

lol @ You still butthurt & Bumming my Keira Knightley comment.


Yum... keira knightley. She's as thin as an ironing board though.

You can't even come up with your own material.

[stretch]

Slightly off-topic, but where is Bob and when is he getting back???

some weird country or something doing stuff for kids

he will be back in a few months i think

[Fpoonsie]

lol @ You still butthurt & Bumming my Keira Knightley comment.



You can't even come up with your own material.

I don't even know where this came from.

lol thinking anyone notices you enough to actually steal your shit material.

[Fpoonsie]

some weird country or something doing stuff for kids

he will be back in a few months i think

A few MONTHS?! Chriiiiiiiist.

[DMX7]

I don't even know where this came from.

lol thinking anyone notices you enough to actually steal your shit material.

Post #152 and still butthurt.

[coyotes_geek]

You guys are the experts, right? Or are you a 2%er?

Couldn't tell you. Keeping statistics on glory hole participation rates isn't a hobby of mine. Sounds like dmx might be able to help you in your quest for knowledge on this subject though.

[Fpoonsie]

Post #152 and still butthurt.

lol throwing the word "butthurt" out there when you have absolutely no argument or remotely witty response

lol obviously having no clue as to what "butthurt" actually means

lol knowing vastly more about glory holes

[DMX7]

lol throwing the word "butthurt" out there when you have absolutely no argument or remotely witty response

lol obviously having no clue as to what "butthurt" actually means

lol knowing vastly more about glory holes

Post #156 and taking butthurt into overdrive. lol

[Fpoonsie]

You're Jacob1983-esque bad at this.

[Kermit]

lol knowing vastly more about glory holes
lol making fun of Austin for having gays
lol having glory holes in men's restrooms in Aggyland
lol deflecting

and pour a little out for our rapist.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a380/thujone/TheSearch36.jpg

[Fpoonsie]

lol deflecting

Lulz. This thread started out about TAMU and OU possibly leaving the B12, and now we're arguing over in which city does faggotry run the most rampant.

Who's deflecting? This thread simply took an ST-typical sharp left turn.

[stretch]

Who's deflecting? This thread simply took an ST-typical sharp left turn.

which is why ST is absolute greatness

[Kermit]

Lulz. This thread started out about TAMU and OU possibly leaving the B12, and now we're arguing over in which city does faggotry run the most rampant.

Who's deflecting? This thread simply took an ST-typical sharp left turn.

Oh, faggotry abounds in Austin. Don't get me wrong, there's no contest there. Just don't act like there isn't a closet that Aggy hides in.

http://www.thebatt.com/2.8482/a-hole-different-world-1.1179875

[Sisk]

Oh, faggotry abounds in Austin. Don't get me wrong, there's no contest there. Just don't act like there isn't a closet that Aggy hides in.

http://www.thebatt.com/2.8482/a-hole-different-world-1.1179875

TBH, I have never seen a glory hole in any bathroom in any building I've been in on campus.

8" holes?! :lmao whoever made that wasn't fucking around.

[Kermit]

TBH, I have never seen a glory hole in any bathroom in any building I've been in on campus.

8" holes?! :lmao whoever made that wasn't fucking around.

Perhaps these guys?

http://www.utexasclan.com/photos/albums/userpics/10001/Redass.jpg

[Sisk]

But this lovely campus has a dark side some will find hard to swallow. Often as most students go about their business, illicit and anonymous sex occurs publicly in the very buildings we call home.

:lmao

[Kermit]

:lmao

That article, true or not, is full of win.

[Sisk]

Kermit, I don't know how you find these pictures. It's pretty impressive.

I've given up defending the corps. Their hazing knows no bounds. Military in general has some pretty gay hazing done regularly, so it's not particularly surprising.

[Fpoonsie]

which is why ST is absolute greatness

:tu

[Sisk]

That article, true or not, is full of win.

Like I said, I've never seen them and I've been in a ton of buildings on campus. I'd imagine there's at least some truth to it considering it's in our paper. I'm surprised they let the article run.

[Kermit]

Kermit, I don't know how you find these pictures. It's pretty impressive.

I've given up defending the corps. Their hazing knows no bounds. Military in general has some pretty gay hazing done regularly, so it's not particularly surprising.

Have you ever been yelled at for walking on the grass?

[Fpoonsie]

Kermit, I don't know how you find these pictures. It's pretty impressive.

I've given up defending the corps. Their hazing knows no bounds. Military in general has some pretty gay hazing done regularly, so it's not particularly surprising.

Lulz. I think it's moreso an idiot white guy thing than JUST "the corps being the corps."

Mr. Chappelle, to expand further on the matter:

6uvg-ug9CvE

[Fpoonsie]

Have you ever been yelled at for walking on the grass?

I know this question was for Sisk, but I've been yelled at more at UNT about grass-walking (once) than I ever was at TAMU (zero).

Though, I was bitched at numerous times for forgetting to "uncover" during Yell Practice or when I'd walk into the MSC.

[Sisk]

Have you ever been yelled at for walking on the grass?

That only happens at the MSC, which has been under renovation for a while and reopens in April. I haven't been yelled at, but it certainly happens. It's an active memorial for fallen Aggies that have given their lives in war. It houses 7 Medal of Honor awards, after all. So anyways, it's out of respect that you don't step on the grass.

[Fpoonsie]

Like I said, I've never seen them and I've been in a ton of buildings on campus. I'd imagine there's at least some truth to it considering it's in our paper. I'm surprised they let the article run.

Me, too.

Huh.

[Kermit]

Lulz. I think it's moreso an idiot white guy thing than JUST "the corps being the corps."

Mr. Chappelle, to expand further on the matter:

6uvg-ug9CvE

:lmao

Fuck carrots.