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Fabbs
09-14-2011, 11:59 AM
With glee in the oil pig company owners eyes, they watched as one after one of the 'bots in the Repugnatin debates blathered drill baby drill so that it would create so many *jobs*. Michele Bachmann even made some mention of $2 a gallon if we could drill everywhere. Ricky Bobby Perry was foaming at the mouth to frack the few remaining gallons of clean water in Texass to his oil overlords. I've yet to hear one of them comment on environmental risk.

Any direct quotes?
Or is that a subject they just don't talk about?

Fabbs
09-14-2011, 12:09 PM
....lest any 'Pugs or for that matter Tea Pottys or Demons say the Gulf sure cleaned up all spiffy:

Stuart Smith on the true status of the Macondo Well site:

http://www.stuarthsmith.com/oil-rising-again-from-macondo-well-bp-hires-fleet-of-40-shrimp-boats-to-lay-boom-around-old-deepwater-horizon-site

exerpts: The truly frightening part of this development, as reported in a previous post (see below), is the oil may be coming from cracks and fissures in the seafloor caused by the work BP did during its failed attempts to cap the runaway Macondo Well – and that type of leakage can’t be stopped, ever.

Is BP’s Macondo Well Site Still Leaking? Fresh Oil on the Gulf Raises Concerns and Haunting Memories

Fresh oil is surfacing all over the northern quadrant of the Gulf of Mexico. Reports of slicks that meander for miles and huge expanses of oil sheen that look like phantom islands are becoming common, again. Fresh oil, only slightly weathered, is washing ashore in areas hit hardest by last year’s massive spill, like Breton Island, Ship Island, the Chandeleurs and northern Barataria Bay. BP has reactivated its Vessels of Opportunity (VoO) program to handle cleanup. It’s a sickeningly familiar scene that has fishermen, researchers and public officials searching for answers, as haunting memories of last year’s calamity come roaring back.

The fifty-thousand-dollar question, of course, is where is all the new oil coming from?

One theory: The Macondo Well site, located just 40 miles off the Louisiana coast, is still leaking untold amounts of oil into the Gulf. Some argue that the casing on the capped well itself is leaking. Others believe oil is seeping through cracks and fissures in the seafloor caused by months of high-impact work on the site, including a range of recovery activities (some disclosed, some not) as well as the abortive “top kill” effort.

In January 2011, a prominent “geohazards specialist” wrote an urgent letter to two members of Congress – U.S. Reps. Fred Upton, chairman of the House Committee on Energy and Commerce and John Shimkus, chairman of the Subcommittee on Environment and Economy – suggesting that the Macondo site is leaking oil like a sieve. Here’s an excerpt from that letter (see it in its entirety at link below):

There is no question that the oil seepages, gas columns, fissures and blowout craters in the seafloor around the Macondo wellhead… have been the direct result of indiscriminate drilling, grouting, injection of dispersant and other undisclosed recover activities. As the rogue well had not been successfully cemented and plugged at the base of the well by the relief wells, unknown quantities of hydrocarbons are still leaking out from the reservoir at high pressure and are seeping through multiple fault lines to the seabed. It is not possible to cap this oil leakage.

DarrinS
09-14-2011, 12:34 PM
Meet the new boutons.

Winehole23
09-14-2011, 12:46 PM
^^^ meet the flip side of the same coin

Fabbs
09-14-2011, 12:50 PM
Meet my ongoing Pug motto:
Dodge, Dip, Duck, Dive, and Dodge.

predictable.
and boring.

boutons_deux
09-14-2011, 01:00 PM
"meet the flip side of the same coin"

that's false-opposition bullshit.

DarrinS
09-14-2011, 01:05 PM
predictable.
and boring.

oil overlords

Fabbs
09-14-2011, 01:09 PM
Any direct quotes?
Or is that a subject they just don't talk about?

DarrinS



:lol run along Darrin.

Winehole23
09-14-2011, 01:11 PM
that's false-opposition bullshit.You're both grotesquely biased ideological hacks, twisted by inarticulate resentment for your adversaries.

DarrinS
09-14-2011, 01:15 PM
You're both grotesquely biased ideological hacks, twisted by inarticulate resentment for your adversaries.

irony

MultiTroll
11-20-2014, 10:48 AM
Nary a response from the Pugs.

Now we have the Keystone promises.

CosmicCowboy
11-20-2014, 11:14 AM
keystone is just a freaking pipeline like hundreds of others.

Considering the source of the oil and ultimate destination it was actually a poor poster child for pipeline proponents but the foaming at the mouth anti pipeline hysteria has been just as foolish.

CosmicCowboy
11-20-2014, 11:15 AM
http://www.intellectualtakeout.org/sites/www.intellectualtakeout.org/files/Pipelines%20in%20America.JPG

MultiTroll
11-20-2014, 11:35 AM
keystone is just a freaking pipeline like hundreds of others.

Considering the source of the oil and ultimate destination it was actually a poor poster child for pipeline proponents but the foaming at the mouth anti pipeline hysteria has been just as foolish.
I'm sorry what is the Repug proposal for Keystone spills?

CosmicCowboy
11-20-2014, 11:39 AM
I'm sorry what is the Repug proposal for Keystone spills?

uhhhh....clean it up?

What a stupid fucking question.

It's just one more pipeline like thousands of others.

DarrinS
11-20-2014, 11:41 AM
Today, 10,000 gallons of crude will naturally seep off the coast of Santa Barbara -- as it does every day.

boutons_deux
11-20-2014, 11:42 AM
"keystone is just a freaking pipeline like hundreds of others."

bullshit

It's so Canadiens and TX refiners can sell their products to C and S America. What other US pipeline does that?

KXL has also become a symbol of Repugs/BigOil refusing to EVER yield to environmentalism vs. environmentalists who have drawn a line in the sand against BigOil raping the planet.

CosmicCowboy
11-20-2014, 11:51 AM
"keystone is just a freaking pipeline like hundreds of others."

bullshit

It's so Canadiens and TX refiners can sell their products to C and S America. What other US pipeline does that?

KXL has also become a symbol of Repugs/BigOil refusing to EVER yield to environmentalism vs. environmentalists who have drawn a line in the sand against BigOil raping the planet.






It is a long welded steel cylinder that transports oil. It doesn't know where the oil came from or where it is going, so yeah, dumbass, it's just another pipeline.

MultiTroll
11-20-2014, 12:30 PM
uhhhh....clean it up?

What a stupid fucking question.

It's just one more pipeline like thousands of others.
What a lame, evasive answer.
Clean it up like they have in the past.
STFU.

Yonivore
11-20-2014, 01:38 PM
What a lame, evasive answer.
Clean it up like they have in the past.
STFU.
Why would the Keystone XL Pipeline demand any different response to a spill than the other thousands of pipelines criss-crossing the United States of America?

I don't get the significance of this particular conveyance of oil.

boutons_deux
11-20-2014, 02:33 PM
I don't get the significance of this particular conveyance of oil.

1. it's not oil

2. it's about stopping BigCarbon

Yonivore
11-20-2014, 02:38 PM
1. it's not oil
Really? What's it going to carry?


2. it's about stopping BigCarbon
I see.

boutons_deux
11-20-2014, 02:42 PM
Really? What's it going to carry?


I see.

It's more toxic, more inflammatory/explosive, more laden with all kinds of non-oil shit than sweet crude, so much so only a few refineries, eg Kock Bros/Corpus Christi, can process it.

you see little from your perspective of ankle-biter.

Yonivore
11-20-2014, 02:44 PM
It's more toxic, more inflammatory/explosive, more laden with all kinds of non-oil shit than sweet crude, so much so only a few refineries, eg Kock Bros/Corpus Christi, can process it.

you see little from your perspective of ankle-biter.
So, is it oil or not?

cantthinkofanything
11-20-2014, 02:52 PM
I'm sorry what is the Repug proposal for Keystone spills?

all we need is 5,000,000 cleaning ladies and janitors.

CosmicCowboy
11-20-2014, 02:54 PM
It's more toxic, more inflammatory/explosive, more laden with all kinds of non-oil shit than sweet crude, so much so only a few refineries, eg Kock Bros/Corpus Christi, can process it.

you see little from your perspective of ankle-biter.


It is a heavy oil that they mix with conventional condensate to transport it, then remove the condensate again at the refinery. The heavy oil product is used for asphalt type mixes and other heavy oil applications. It is less explosive than conventional crude and isn't loaded with toxins as you stupidly claim. The reason there aren't many heavy oil refineries in Texas is that most of the oil produced in Texas is light sweet crude.

You really ARE a fucking idiot.

CosmicCowboy
11-20-2014, 03:17 PM
Boo, just be honest for a change.

Environmentalists don't like it because it is tar sand oil.

ElNono
11-20-2014, 04:17 PM
Keystone is going to happen... my only real beef with it is the use of eminent domain to seize land for it. I would think "small government" folks would feel the same way.

boutons_deux
11-20-2014, 05:09 PM
Boo, just be honest for a change.

Environmentalists don't like it because it is tar sand oil.

They hate the BigCarbon propaganda and legislative corruption, including you BigCarbon/AGW-denier shills, that denies AGW is caused mainly by GHG/CO2 providing BigCarbon's profits.

BigCarbon is using KXL to spit in the face of environmentalism, and environmentalists.

yes, classifying KXL as a "common carrier" so BigCarbon Sky People can commandeer private property seems to cause no problems with Freedom! loving, govt-hating patriots

tlongII
11-20-2014, 10:21 PM
So boots lied? What a surprise...

FuzzyLumpkins
11-20-2014, 11:29 PM
irony
Winehole23 is opinionated without a doubt but as to political bias, I feel he is one of the more impartial people that has posted here ever.

You shill with deception as a matter of course. You are by definition a hack. Deal with it.

FuzzyLumpkins
11-20-2014, 11:32 PM
So boots lied? What a surprise...

There is a difference between not understanding something particularly well and being wrong then intentionally trying to mislead people. He doesn't cull credibility like a con man.