Mac or PC?

[silverblk mystix]

Far be it for ME to participate in any arguments and/or disrespectful threads...:lol

...but I didn't see this discussed anywhere...

so...Mac or PC ...and why?


I use Mac/Apple products because they are superior in EVERY way....

Because if you aren't using Macs...you are either stupid and/or stubborn...probably both....

what about you?

[bus driver]

i am a PC, because i know what i am doing

[silverblk mystix]

i am a PC, because i know what i am doing

Sounds like a confessional junkie speech....

I am a PC...and yes...I need help...:lol

[Sisk]

i am a PC, because i know what i am doing

:lol This

[cantthinkofanything]

I'm a PC because I don't need to create a 10 hour music video out of my home movies and CDs.

[silverblk mystix]

i am a PC, because i know what i am doing

Yes...you are waiting for that anti-virus to scan your pos...:lol

[lefty]

Pc

[bus driver]

Sounds like a confessional junkie speech....

I am a PC...and yes...I need help...:lol


Yes...you are waiting for that anti-virus to scan your pos...:lol

really? this is the best a mac genius can do :wakeup

[Vici]

No reason ever to buy a Mac unless you love throwing your money at inferior hardware and overpriced, outdated software. CentOS and Windows 7 ultimate here.

[Sense]

Far be it for ME to participate in any arguments and/or disrespectful threads...:lol

...but I didn't see this discussed anywhere...

so...Mac or PC ...and why?


I use Mac/Apple products because they are superior in EVERY way....

Because if you aren't using Macs...you are either stupid and/or stubborn...probably both....

what about you?


:lol

[silverblk mystix]

No reason ever to buy a Mac unless you love throwing your money at inferior hardware and overpriced, outdated software. CentOS and Windows 7 ultimate here.

Come to the dark side...you know you want to...

Apple is Superior in every way...deep down inside you know this.

[cantthinkofanything]

Steve Jobs used a Mac and look at him now.

[IronMaxipad]

Pc

[Fpoonsie]

Steve Jobs used a Mac and look at him now.

:lmao

[MannyIsGod]

I use PC because I don't like spending double for equally specced hardware and software that will only run programs I need to use while emulating windows.

I will say this, I think the Macbook Air is sexy.

[silverblk mystix]

I use PC because I don't like spending double for equally specced hardware and software that will only run programs I need to use while emulating windows.

I will say this, I think the Macbook Air is sexy.

Well, if it was only about specs and hardware...I would agree...but it is more than that...
Apple usually has other things going for it...a feel of quality...a feeling of --or a cool factor if you will...

once you get one..you will wonder what took you so long...

[Fpoonsie]

Apple usually has other things going for it...a feel of quality...a feeling of --or a cool factor if you will...

And you need that kinda validation? The cops letting you outta tickets because of your supple mouth and limited gag reflex doesn't do it for ya?

[CuckingFunt]

I like both (yeah, it's possible), but have only ever owned PCs. I don't think it's ever been a perfect operating system, and some versions have been better than others, but I think Windows is more user friendly than MacOS and that has so far been enough to keep my loyalty.

[NASpurs]

I installed OSX (hackintosh) on my parents' PC and for what they use it for, it's more than enough. Can't beat $30 for an operating system that isn't Linux.

As for me, I'll stick with a PC dual booting Ubuntu and Windows 7.

[baseline bum]

Both Windows and Mac are for gays tbh.

[silverblk mystix]

And you need that kinda validation? The cops letting you outta tickets because of your supple mouth and limited gag reflex doesn't do it for ya?

It has nothing to do with validation...

most people spend a lot of time on a computer...a lot of interacting with this machine...

pc's have no charm...no personality...no uniqueness...

a mac is all that and more...if you haven't owned one...just go to the apple store and spend a little time...you will eventually see the light...

and forget about your gay cop fantasies for a little while....it's ok...you will be fine without it...

[MannyIsGod]

Both Windows and Mac are for gays tbh.

I've never used Linux. Can you explain to me the desire to have it?

[IronMaxipad]

As for me, I'll stick with a PC dual booting Ubuntu and Windows 7.

+1

That's my current setup.

[CuckingFunt]

Both Windows and Mac are for gays tbh.

Well, I'm part gay. So that's fine with me.



I understand the appeal of Linux, but my computer use, while frequent, is pretty basic. I don't do anything with them that has made switching to Linux feel worth the trouble.

[cantthinkofanything]

As for me, I'll stick with a PC dual booting Ubuntu and Windows 7.

I'm not sure but does this need a (no racist) tag?

[silverblk mystix]

Well, I'm part gay. So that's fine with me.



I understand the appeal of Linux, but my computer use, while frequent, is pretty basic. I don't do anything with them that has made switching to Linux feel worth the trouble.

What is part gay?

Bi?

[cantthinkofanything]

once you get one..you will wonder what took you so long...

I promise you'll say the same thing after you have sex with a woman.

[silverblk mystix]

I promise you'll say the same thing after you have sex with a woman.

Is that a proposition? :lol

[Spam]

I had a MAC. HAD that is.

[baseline bum]

I've never used Linux. Can you explain to me the desire to have it?

Mostly being able to easily automate things with the bash shell and with tons of programs written to be used together in it, though there is also the allure of having good free software with no nag screens nor limited functionality. LOL @ people paying $120 (http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-059-07628-Word-2010/dp/B0039L6G00/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1316634687&sr=8-4) for a cocksucking word processor when an infinitely more complicated and difficult to program game is $60.

[cantthinkofanything]

Is that a proposition? :lol

is what a proposition?

[baseline bum]

I've never used Linux. Can you explain to me the desire to have it?

And this is going to sound funny, but one of the things I really like in UNIX-type systems is how they handle copy+paste. Instead of doing

1. highlight text
2. right click
3. select copy
4. right click where you want the text pasted
5. select paste

you just

1. highlight text
2. center click where you want the text pasted

I cannot believe Windows isn't setup by default to have this great behavior.

[silverblk mystix]

I promise you'll say the same thing after you have sex with a woman.

Your statement above makes it sound like you are a woman who is offering sex...


you gotta be trolling....

[silverblk mystix]

...no one is that stupid...

[NASpurs]

Even though I still use Windows, I would say it's comparable to having a program that becomes bloatware over time. Just becomes sluggish and full of crap that you don't want.

Linux on the other hand, you can install it in it's most basic form with almost no dependencies, handful of drivers to get it running on your system and no programs giving you the option to install whatever you want and need over time. Or it also gives you the option in coming with different flavors of your favorite distro with pre-compiled programs already installed in it. Even in the latter option, it doesn't contain the bloat that Windows has.

[resistanze]

+1

That's my current setup.

+1

Another one for Windows 7 (64-bit) and Ubuntu.

I had Ubuntu back in 2008 and eventually got rid of it. Re-installed it recently and I'm quite amazed by the progress.

Thanks for that copy + paste tip BB :lol

[cantthinkofanything]

...no one is that stupid...

I'm stupid?? Maybe.

But you're the one scheduling a prostate check every month.

[redzero]

It has nothing to do with validation...

most people spend a lot of time on a computer...a lot of interacting with this machine...

pc's have no charm...no personality...no uniqueness...

a mac is all that and more...if you haven't owned one...just go to the apple store and spend a little time...you will eventually see the light...

and forget about your gay cop fantasies for a little while....it's ok...you will be fine without it...

That's gotta be the dumbest justification for owning a computer that I have ever read.

[NASpurs]

If you're ever bored and want to run Linux without installing it on your system, I suggest using a virtualization program like VMware Player. If you're into messing around on your computer, it can be a fun project learing the ins and outs of Linux and without any risk. It won't ruin your current setup.

[silverblk mystix]

no one else uses macs...here...

shoulda' known....

get with it already....why waste your time on an outdated,boring, crash-prone pos....????

sheeple.

[cantthinkofanything]

get with it already....why waste your time on an outdated,boring, crash-prone pos....????


said the milkman to your wife

[silverblk mystix]

said the milkman to your wife

geez...

I remember when I had my first beer....:sleep

[IronMaxipad]

If you're ever bored and want to run Linux without installing it on your system, I suggest using a virtualization program like VMware Player. If you're into messing around on your computer, it can be a fun project learing the ins and outs of Linux and without any risk. It won't ruin your current setup.

They don't even need to do all that. They can just run linux off a live cd or even a flash drive.

[cantthinkofanything]

geez...

I remember when I had my first beer....:sleep

I've never heard of a big black cock in the ass described as "beer". But whatever.

[bus driver]

geez...

I remember when I had my first beer....:sleep

was it when you started a thread about mac or pc?

[Vici]

I actually own a mac and it's the most worthless machine I have. It was cool before I knew how to actually work on computers as I do now. Mac offers nothing outside of support for other mac devices. By nothing I mean absolutely nothing. As someone stated above Ubuntu has made strides and if I were forced to buy a new laptop, I'd install Ubuntu over Mac and Windows.

The only reason I have windows is for gaming and that's it. Ubuntu handles everything else better than other platforms.

In fact I tried turning my macbook pro 2.2 into a Linux machine and the machine is such crap it can't even boot the Linux cd/usb. Anyway, Osx is basically just a very old kernel of Linux that has been streamlined for people who love a one button mouse.

[bus driver]

http://imgon.net/di-9F4D.gif


this has to be the best gif on ST

[xellos88330]

I have never really like Mac. I do say that they do have some pretty kick ass stuff out there if you are into multimedia.

Personally I am not into that kind of thing and just have a mac for video editing etc. Other than that I use my PC for everything else.

[xellos88330]

I actually own a mac and it's the most worthless machine I have. It was cool before I knew how to actually work on computers as I do now. Mac offers nothing outside of support for other mac devices. By nothing I mean absolutely nothing. As someone stated above Ubuntu has made strides and if I were forced to buy a new laptop, I'd install Ubuntu over Mac and Windows.

The only reason I have windows is for gaming and that's it. Ubuntu handles everything else better than other platforms.

In fact I tried turning my macbook pro 2.2 into a Linux machine and the machine is such crap it can't even boot the Linux cd/usb. Anyway, Osx is basically just a very old kernel of Linux that has been streamlined for people who love a one button mouse.

sig is hilarious!!!

[pawe]

this has to be the best gif on ST

I dont think so...

[cantthinkofanything]

I dont think so...

the runway girl is hotter

[pawe]

I like bimbos better than supermodels.

[cantthinkofanything]

I like bimbos better than supermodels.

you think they're mutually exclusive???

[pawe]

I dont know but I always have this notion that high caliber supermodels are way smarter than the "I just had my boobs done and now I can be a model" types.

This topic is way more interesting than macs vs pc.

[silverblk mystix]

I dont know but I always have this notion that high caliber supermodels are way smarter than the "I just had my boobs done and now I can be a model" types.

This topic is way more interesting than macs vs pc.

Actually, the most interesting part of this thread was C. Funt saying she/he is half-gay???

...then refusing to answer what that means....????

[cantthinkofanything]

I dont know but I always have this notion that high caliber supermodels are way smarter than the "I just had my boobs done and now I can be a model" types.

This topic is way more interesting than macs vs pc.

I think runway models are just smart enough to know not to act like a bimbo.

Speaking of runway models, this clip always makes me laugh.

CvPkUMRE7yg

[bus driver]

I dont think so...

good point.....damn decisions.

[z0sa]

I think runway models are just smart enough to know not to act like a bimbo.

Speaking of runway models, this clip always makes me laugh.

CvPkUMRE7yg


rofl that second one she's almost skating on her ankles hahaha

[MannyIsGod]

I'm going to try out Ubuntu at some point soon. Seems like if nothing else it'll be fun to mess with.

[CuckingFunt]

Actually, the most interesting part of this thread was C. Funt saying she/he is half-gay???

...then refusing to answer what that means....????

Didn't really think it was all that interesting.

Or unknown.

[ididnotnothat]

Pc

[pawe]

I'm going to try out Ubuntu at some point soon. Seems like if nothing else it'll be fun to mess with.


Pc

Stay on topic please.

[z0sa]

lol half-gay

[cantthinkofanything]

lol half-gay

that is lol. the top half suck dicks but the bottom only likes anal sex with bull dykes.

[cantthinkofanything]

that is lol. the top half sucks dicks but the bottom half only likes to fuck bull dykes in the ass.

[silverblk mystix]

Didn't really think it was all that interesting.

Or unknown.

Call me uninformed...but I honestly don't know what half-gay means...

you either are...or you are not...

am I missing something?

[ALVAREZ6]

lmao I guess everyone in this bitch except 2 people are stubborn and/or stupid :lol, I also roll with PC. But I will say that I will consider switching when I get my next laptop. Don't know shit about Ubuntu but I'll have to check it out.

[cantthinkofanything]

am I missing something?

a pair of balls?

[caribbean_spur]

Mac at work, PC at home. I Like both, but will stick with PC at home since I know a lot more my way around PC and it's a lot cheaper.

Don't know why BaselineBum thinks one cannot use bash, c-shell,... on mac, since one of the nice things about it.

[CavsSuperFan]

Mac is superior in every way…With a Mac you go to work & get the job done…At work I use two Macs & one PC…I have PC at home so I can stay up to date on all the glitches, viruses, Microsoft issues etc etc that PC’s are known for…

[silverblk mystix]

Mac is superior in every way…With a Mac you go to work & get the job done…At work I use two Macs & one PC…I have PC at home so I can stay up to date on all the glitches, viruses, Microsoft issues etc etc that PC’s are known for…

Winner-winner chicken dinner...sadly...it is an out of state person...maybe san antone is behind the curve...

never had a virus nor do I have to run anti-spyware bullshit...all day & night...

I guess Macs are the Porn computer....big 27" screen and no viruses!

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I have a mac I bought a few years ago for school and it was a big mistake. It still runs really well and is way more durable than any PC I've owned, but I have to work extensively with Microsoft Access this semester for both my job and school and there's no version of access compatible with macs.

[DieMrBond]

Every single time I have ever used a MAC, i felt dirty.

People say they are easy to use, intuitive and so much better. What a load of crap. You can't always full screen a window, that toolbar along the top is annoying, and do I need to mention the fact that you used to eject a CD by dragging it to the 'trash'?

For software that 'doesnt crash', a supposed advantage over Windows, it sure does crash a lot.

The mouse is so uncomfortable and bad for constant use. The Peoples response? Go and buy a PC mouse to use on your MAC ... like thats a good thing? WHY NOT JUST USE THE PC!?

It is SO much cheaper to build a kick arse PC than it is a MAC. Oh guess what, apart from like Final Cut Pro - just about ALL of the software available in the world is better or made for running on a PC.

Macs are for people that are suckers for advertising. Good job dancing silhouettes!



Oh wait, I thought of an advantage of Macs... their monitors are 90dpi, so better resolution. Bravo!

[silverblk mystix]

Every single time I have ever used a MAC, i felt dirty.

People say they are easy to use, intuitive and so much better. What a load of crap. You can't always full screen a window, that toolbar along the top is annoying, and do I need to mention the fact that you used to eject a CD by dragging it to the 'trash'?

******** You can ALWAYS full screen a window...ALWAYS...either from the menu or from just dragging the lower right corner and size it as big as you please....

For software that 'doesnt crash', a supposed advantage over Windows, it sure does crash a lot.

****My first mac was in 1994...and since then...I NEVER had a crash....a virus...or any problems...

The mouse is so uncomfortable and bad for constant use. The Peoples response? Go and buy a PC mouse to use on your MAC ... like thats a good thing? WHY NOT JUST USE THE PC!?



*********** SUPER WRONG!!!!******** can you say MAGIC MOUSE?
So intuitive....no extra buttons...just use your fingers for everything...you want to scroll? use your right index finger in an up and down motion just like if you had that dummy wheel....only there is no wheel to get dusty...just swipe...and presto a whole page can fly up or down...want to scroll fast...move your finger fast....slow?...move -finger-slow....

want to go to the previous page?...two fingers to the left at the same time...next page? two fingers to the right....right click? right tap...etc....

which seems more natural and user friendly?

Rest my case.

It is SO much cheaper to build a kick arse PC than it is a MAC. Oh guess what, apart from like Final Cut Pro - just about ALL of the software available in the world is better or made for running on a PC.


*****WRONG AGAIN!!!! ---Every hollywood studio---music and movies---use Apple for editing, movie projects...etc....
Garageband and Logic Pro are superior to any pc music software...Final Cut Pro...etc....

Macs are for people that are suckers for advertising. Good job dancing silhouettes!


Wrong! Macs are a small percentage of computers in the usa....everyone else is afraid of the new...until they switch to Macs...then they see the light....


Oh wait, I thought of an advantage of Macs... their monitors are 90dpi, so better resolution. Bravo!

[baseline bum]

Mac at work, PC at home. I Like both, but will stick with PC at home since I know a lot more my way around PC and it's a lot cheaper.

Don't know why BaselineBum thinks one cannot use bash, c-shell,... on mac, since one of the nice things about it.

Long time, no see CS. How goes it up in the E-2Cs lately?

[RGMCSE]

I installed OSX (hackintosh) on my parents' PC and for what they use it for, it's more than enough. Can't beat $30 for an operating system that isn't Linux.

As for me, I'll stick with a PC dual booting Ubuntu and Windows 7.

I have 2 laptops and 2 desktops and they are all dual booted with Ubuntu and Windows 7. Funny thing is at work we have multiple Data centers and there are Windows Server OS Linux, Unix, AIX and a few other flavors of Linux/Unix. But no Xservers. Honestly if your not a hardcore Mac software developer or News Paper / graphic artist or a few other nitch professions, Macs are pointless in the Business world. I used to work at a local co in town that employed "graphic artists" and I used to threaten them that I was going to remove their G5's for PC desktops. The fucking horror! :lol Shit was priceless!!

[Sybok]

Far be it for ME to participate in any arguments and/or disrespectful threads...:lol

...but I didn't see this discussed anywhere...

so...Mac or PC ...and why?


I use Mac/Apple products because they are superior in EVERY way....

Because if you aren't using Macs...you are either stupid and/or stubborn...probably both....

what about you?

You have not yet truly opened your eyes. You have not yet truly been reawakened.

[Sybok]

Call me uninformed...but I honestly don't know what half-gay means...

you either are...or you are not...

am I missing something?
Half a fag.

You go into the men's room with another guy, you unzip his fly, you fall to your knees and just as his cock is about to enter into your mouth you have second thoughts.

[cantthinkofanything]

Half a fag.

You go into the men's room with another guy, you unzip his fly, you fall to your knees and just as his cock is about to enter into your mouth you have second thoughts.
and you just jack him off in your afro

[silverblk mystix]

You have not yet truly opened your eyes. You have not yet truly been reawakened.

When you can snatch the pebbles from my hand, grasshopper...

[mouse]

http://viewology.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Apple-Mac-Desktop-Full-Screenprint.png

[Viva Las Espuelas]

I use both and they both have pros and cons. For music, my MacBook pro is definitely superior. Good luck running ProTools on a PC without pulling your hair out. You definitely have to do more tweaking in a PC as opposed to a Mac. I see more innovations in Macs as opposed to pc's though. I'm not a Machead by any means, but I give a slight edge to Macs. If you do basic stuff on your computer I'd stick with PC on account of the price point.

[RGMCSE]

The funny thing about the Mac / PC argument when it comes to Macs being superior because they don't suffer viruses. That's a misconception. There are bugs and viruses for Macs. Why spend the time creating a virus for such a miniscue population. The masses use PC's it makes sense that people would rather spend time trying to exploit something worth while.

I personally have never purchased and rarely use antivirus software. Sure I protect my network by other means but if your smart you should never have to worry about viruses. The people that fuck up their PC's are the dumb asses that run first thing to install all this bullshit malware freeware and crapware. I know people that are constantly having problems with PC performance because they surf the web for porn. their is a smart way to search and a blind way.

I will concede that Mac products have some purpose in nitch areas and by far are the cutest little piecies of over priced shit consumer wise. If your talking marketing and Brand wise in consumer areas then yes Mac is having a nice run, with all their nice little toys and all. But when it comes to actuall getting down to business in every way PC is the way.

[silverblk mystix]

The funny thing about the Mac / PC argument when it comes to Macs being superior because they don't suffer viruses. That's a misconception. There are bugs and viruses for Macs. Why spend the time creating a virus for such a miniscue population. The masses use PC's it makes sense that people would rather spend time trying to exploit something worth while.

I personally have never purchased and rarely use antivirus software. Sure I protect my network by other means but if your smart you should never have to worry about viruses. The people that fuck up their PC's are the dumb asses that run first thing to install all this bullshit malware freeware and crapware. I know people that are constantly having problems with PC performance because they surf the web for porn. their is a smart way to search and a blind way.

I will concede that Mac products have some purpose in nitch areas and by far are the cutest little piecies of over priced shit consumer wise. If your talking marketing and Brand wise in consumer areas then yes Mac is having a nice run, with all their nice little toys and all. But when it comes to actuall getting down to business in every way PC is the way.

You just pointed out a bunch of advantages that the Mac has over the PC...then at the end...you went with PC...sounds like you are just blinded with PC hype--when all the facts point to Mac being superior....:lmao

the thing about cute toys is that they are cool to play with...and if you are going to spend time with any gadget...why shouldn't they be cool and enjoyable?

PC people: "I'd rather be boiled in oil before I enjoy my computer" :lmao

[IronMaxipad]

http://i.imgur.com/1VQ6R.jpg

[IronMaxipad]

http://i.imgur.com/7rZoP.jpg

[IronMaxipad]

http://i.imgur.com/uvjJR.png

http://i.imgur.com/usRXz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/YIbnw.jpg

[RGMCSE]

You just pointed out a bunch of advantages that the Mac has over the PC...then at the end...you went with PC...sounds like you are just blinded with PC hype--when all the facts point to Mac being superior....:lmao

the thing about cute toys is that they are cool to play with...and if you are going to spend time with any gadget...why shouldn't they be cool and enjoyable?

PC people: "I'd rather be boiled in oil before I enjoy my computer" :lmao


The point being that Mac's do well on consumer based products like Iphones and glorified mp3 players. But when it comes down to Business from small to large enterprise organizations you don't fuck around with bullshit toys. That's my point. If the OP asked what IT gadgets would you prefer by and large Mac would rule this thread. But the OP asked Mac or PC? So PC's rule the world. By the way I personally like some of those Mac gadgets. I don't have anything against those products. I do have a problem with the fucktards that don't know the difference between a shiny pretty marketed gadget and a Client machine that can work both as a Business client and when configured properly a more than capable friendly consumer product.

[phyzik]

To start off with, at my job, we have maybe a total of 7 Mac Pro computers running out of about 260 computers total in the division I work for.... and all 7 are emulating Windows to run their projects.

Macs are nice for heavy data computation when it comes to programs like Ansys, Pro/E and MathCAD and even then, they are not that much better when you compare price for the equivelant PC... Other than that, they are worthless in the business world and ESPECIALLY in the gaming world.

Personally, I base my PC purchases on gaming performance, and a Mac just isnt anywhere NEAR a PC in that regard.

Having said that, if I where into productivity, I wouldnt hesitate to buy an iPad or a Macbook Pro.... But Im not into that... So, for me, PC is the gold standard.

[mavsfan1000]

For games, the PC owns. But Macs look way more professional looking.

[DMC]

You just pointed out a bunch of advantages that the Mac has over the PC...then at the end...you went with PC...sounds like you are just blinded with PC hype--when all the facts point to Mac being superior....:lmao

the thing about cute toys is that they are cool to play with...and if you are going to spend time with any gadget...why shouldn't they be cool and enjoyable?

PC people: "I'd rather be boiled in oil before I enjoy my computer" :lmao

It's like deciding between an erector set and legos, Mac being the legos.

[byrontx]

Just switched from PC to Mac. I watched in disgust as my PC did a spinning wheel and then interpeted some previous command as a "delete all my emails in Outlook (LookOut) command." Windows is a shitty, undependable OS and MS programs, especially Lookout, are buggy as hell. I use my computer to run a business and I need something that works without screwing up. I am more technical than the average person but I do not have time to jack around with the computer-it just needs to do what it is supposed to do.
Ended up that I had to install Windows on the Mac because I could not find a good substitute for ACT and I discovered, ironically, that Windows seems more stable running in Parallels.
I am happy I switched. Now I get my work done and spend less time messing around trying to get the computer to do what it needs to do. A PC seems like a bad investment when you measure the cost of time you have to spend jacking around with them to get things done. I place a high value on my time.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Own a Macbook and an iPad.

Working my way up to the matching scarf and beret.

[DMC]

Just switched from PC to Mac. I watched in disgust as my PC did a spinning wheel and then interpeted some previous command as a "delete all my emails in Outlook (LookOut) command." Windows is a shitty, undependable OS and MS programs, especially Lookout, are buggy as hell. I use my computer to run a business and I need something that works without screwing up. I am more technical than the average person but I do not have time to jack around with the computer-it just needs to do what it is supposed to do.
Ended up that I had to install Windows on the Mac because I could not find a good substitute for ACT and I discovered, ironically, that Windows seems more stable running in Parallels.
I am happy I switched. Now I get my work done and spend less time messing around trying to get the computer to do what it needs to do. A PC seems like a bad investment when you measure the cost of time you have to spend jacking around with them to get things done. I place a high value on my time.
I've used PCs since they were first introduced. I've never had to spend time jacking around with them to get things done.

Anything seems like a bad investment if you have problems.

[Nathan Explosion]

I have a PC running Windows 7 and an old iBook G4. The iBook is slow as hell now (it's like 7 years old) but it's still kicking pretty good. My desktop is old as well, but pretty futureproof when I bought it so it has no problem with Windows 7 64 bit.

The one thing I did notice is that starting with Vista and moving to 7, Windows stole a lot of things that my old iBook was doing 7 years ago. Someone mentioned that Windows 7 was superior to OS X but that's not true. OS X is ahead of Windows easily. Windows 7 was just starting to catch up to an OS that was 5 yrs old when 7 released. Don't get me wrong, I really like Windows 7, but my previous OS X experience made the switch from XP to Vista/7 so much easier.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

But when it comes to actuall getting down to business in every way PC is the way.

define "getting down to business". pretty much everyone in music/film/media/what have you use macs. swear by it. i can speak from personal experience that mac is the way to go for music production. i've personally found it less hassling and every studio i've recorded in. maybe i'm not "getting down to business"

[DMC]

If any of you are trying to convince anyone that you can be more productive with a Macbook Pro than a top of the line PC (or two, for the same price as a Mac), then you are going to have a hard row to hoe.

If you are just saying Mac OS is better than Windows... that's a different story. Windows isn't a PC, just an operating system. I can run a few different OS on my PC.

If you want to argue Windows vs Mac OS, that's fine. Don't act like Mac has better hardware than anyone in the world.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

i just stated what I have.

"pretty much everyone in music/film/media/what have you use macs."

i'm very aware that PC stand for personal computer..............with the majority running windows, but I guess the translation was lost.

never said anything about hardware.....because they both pretty much have the same hardware.

[Creepn]

If any of you are trying to convince anyone that you can be more productive with a Macbook Pro than a top of the line PC (or two, for the same price as a Mac), then you are going to have a hard row to hoe.

If you are just saying Mac OS is better than Windows... that's a different story. Windows isn't a PC, just an operating system. I can run a few different OS on my PC.

If you want to argue Windows vs Mac OS, that's fine. Don't act like Mac has better hardware than anyone in the world.

This guy nailed it.

A PC upgraded to its fullest with the latest top of the line hardware will beat out all company manufactured computers.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

if only you could up grade more than the HDD and memory in macs. which translates to: if that were possbile; that statement really wouldn't hold any water. like i said, and what should be understood, is the hardware in both are the same.

[RGMCSE]

define "getting down to business". pretty much everyone in music/film/media/what have you use macs. swear by it. i can speak from personal experience that mac is the way to go for music production. i've personally found it less hassling and every studio i've recorded in. maybe i'm not "getting down to business"

Like I mentioned before in an earlier post. Some nitch professions will be using Macs. I worked in one of those industry's and have first hand knowledge. But the fact is that It's a mirage. When it comes to certain applications I can understand using a Mac. But you can do most of those functions with applications using a Windows based OS on a PC just as well. The PC is customizable, cost effective and when it comes down to the OS you can customize business apps to integrate processes. Your not doing that with a piece of fruit.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Ah, so what I covered in my initial post. Got ya :toast

[RGMCSE]

Ah, so what I covered in my initial post. Got ya :toast


I'm sorry what did you cover? The fact that PC's are indeed superior to Macs?

[ElNono]

Whatever works for you, I saaaaaaaiiiiiddddd

[silverblk mystix]

Just switched from PC to Mac. I watched in disgust as my PC did a spinning wheel and then interpeted some previous command as a "delete all my emails in Outlook (LookOut) command." Windows is a shitty, undependable OS and MS programs, especially Lookout, are buggy as hell. I use my computer to run a business and I need something that works without screwing up. I am more technical than the average person but I do not have time to jack around with the computer-it just needs to do what it is supposed to do.
Ended up that I had to install Windows on the Mac because I could not find a good substitute for ACT and I discovered, ironically, that Windows seems more stable running in Parallels.
I am happy I switched. Now I get my work done and spend less time messing around trying to get the computer to do what it needs to do. A PC seems like a bad investment when you measure the cost of time you have to spend jacking around with them to get things done. I place a high value on my time.





*****************BINGO!*******************


Nailed it.

[silverblk mystix]

I've used PCs since they were first introduced. I've never had to spend time jacking around with them to get things done.

Anything seems like a bad investment if you have problems.

****************Well....I am not gonna call you a liar....but you must be the FIRST person in the history of computers....that NEVER had a problem with a PC based computer....


WOW!

[silverblk mystix]

I have a PC running Windows 7 and an old iBook G4. The iBook is slow as hell now (it's like 7 years old) but it's still kicking pretty good. My desktop is old as well, but pretty futureproof when I bought it so it has no problem with Windows 7 64 bit.

The one thing I did notice is that starting with Vista and moving to 7, Windows stole a lot of things that my old iBook was doing 7 years ago. Someone mentioned that Windows 7 was superior to OS X but that's not true. OS X is ahead of Windows easily. Windows 7 was just starting to catch up to an OS that was 5 yrs old when 7 released. Don't get me wrong, I really like Windows 7, but my previous OS X experience made the switch from XP to Vista/7 so much easier.

*****************Another Winner-winner chicken dinner!!!!!!************

PC's catch up to MACS like 5 to 10 years later....and all the ads for the new mega super-super NEW windows....is only bringing "features" that Macs have had for almost a decade....:lmao

[silverblk mystix]

define "getting down to business". pretty much everyone in music/film/media/what have you use macs. swear by it. i can speak from personal experience that mac is the way to go for music production. i've personally found it less hassling and every studio i've recorded in. maybe i'm not "getting down to business"

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Viva Las Espuelas]

I'm sorry what did you cover? The fact that PC's are indeed superior to Macs?

you mustn't read real well. can't help you there.

[DMC]

****************Well....I am not gonna call you a liar....but you must be the FIRST person in the history of computers....that NEVER had a problem with a PC based computer....


WOW!

Prison life must make your reading comprehension skills dull.

I've never had to jack around with a PC. I've built them, upgraded them, you name it.

Anyone who considers computer upkeep as "jacking around" needs a Mac, because they are too stupid to own a PC.

I guess by those standards, I've jacked around with my vehicles by changing my own oil and transmission fluids, doing flushes, fuel filter changes and such instead of getting a Prius and getting down to business.

[DMC]

*****************Another Winner-winner chicken dinner!!!!!!************

PC's catch up to MACS like 5 to 10 years later....and all the ads for the new mega super-super NEW windows....is only bringing "features" that Macs have had for almost a decade....:lmao
Do you know the difference between an operating system and a PC?

Idiot

[Viva Las Espuelas]

I'm sorry what did you cover? The fact that PC's are indeed superior to Macs?

oh and WHOA WHOA WHOA!!!! I thought you were "schooling" me that PC is not a operating system. of course a whole computer can be superior over a mere OS.

[MannyIsGod]

oh and WHOA WHOA WHOA!!!! I thought you were "schooling" me that PC is not a operating system. of course a whole computer can be superior over a mere OS.


you mustn't read real well. can't help you there.

:lol :lol :lol :lol

[ElNono]

I've used PCs since they were first introduced. I've never had to spend time jacking around with them to get things done.

You might be the exception then, at least until fairly recently.

Nowadays I mostly use PC/Macs/Unix, but I started off basically since the personal computer was introduced (Commodore 64, Amiga, Atari ST, etc)

Until recently, Windows always had a way to corrupt itself at some point or another. BSOD, freezes, whatever you want to call it. Even basic stuff like installing a network printer or updating drivers could end up with the all not uncommon "You need to reinstall windows".

Now, for anybody with memory, MacOS 7, 8 and 9 had relatively the same problems though, at least as far as crashes/freezes are concerned.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Prison life must make your reading comprehension skills dull.

I've never had to jack around with a PC. I've built them, upgraded them, you name it.

Anyone who considers computer upkeep as "jacking around" needs a Mac, because they are too stupid to own a PC.

I guess by those standards, I've jacked around with my vehicles by changing my own oil and transmission fluids, doing flushes, fuel filter changes and such instead of getting a Prius and getting down to business.
i do considerably less jacking around on my macbook pro than what i did with my pc. i even made a thread in the geek forum asking what all things i need to jack around when i got my macbook pro. i felt pretty dumb because, after time, i've learned that no jacking around is needed BUT that is not to say I need jacking around while I do regular ho hum stuff.

[baseline bum]

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2081/drawingti.png

fify

[ElNono]

Calling people that value their time "dumb", is pretty dumb, tbh

[MannyIsGod]

I don't know what is meant by "jacking around" but I've almost always had to tweak windows in some way to get it to run optimally for me. I've never used a MacOS machine for very long so I can't really comment on them but I find it hard to believe they don't require some tweaking as well. If they truly do not, then that is indeed impressive.

That being said, I've never had problems with viruses or big time crashing on my computers outside of hardware failure. I've used computers for 17 years so. I think the virus issue has more to do with the ignorance or stupidity of a user rather than the OS.

[silverblk mystix]

Prison life must make your reading comprehension skills dull.

I've never had to jack around with a PC. I've built them, upgraded them, you name it.

Anyone who considers computer upkeep as "jacking around" needs a Mac, because they are too stupid to own a PC.

I guess by those standards, I've jacked around with my vehicles by changing my own oil and transmission fluids, doing flushes, fuel filter changes and such instead of getting a Prius and getting down to business.

Maybe you should research a little about Macs...and you will find out that...
there is no need for "computer upkeep"...as this would take valuable time away for the work you are trying to accomplish...or from the fun you are having on your Mac...while PC users are "upkeeping"...

This is a big thing that surprises many people when they switch over to Macs...they are pleasantly surprised to find out that things just make sense on a Mac and they are user friendly...

It does not mean that it makes anyone stupid...the statement you made is what is stupid...

it is like saying that you'd rather have a car that breaks down on you regularly and leaves you stranded...because this makes you a "competent" car owner...while those idiots who drive around in dependable cars are doing so because they are too stupid to fix the car....:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[MannyIsGod]

FWIW, I don't spend anytime upkeeping anything on my laptop and it still runs as good as the day I got it. I'm not sure what time I'm wasting.

[ElNono]

I don't know what is meant by "jacking around" but I've almost always had to tweak windows in some way to get it to run optimally for me. I've never used a MacOS machine for very long so I can't really comment on them but I find it hard to believe they don't require some tweaking as well. If they truly do not, then that is indeed impressive.

That being said, I've never had problems with viruses or big time crashing on my computers outside of hardware failure. I've used computers for 17 years so. I think the virus issue has more to do with the ignorance or stupidity of a user rather than the OS.

Fact is, if you know what you're buying, you know what baggage it comes with.
I've had my good share of Windows reinstalls, and my good share of Mac crashes or hardware failures.

Windows 7 and MacOS X have really mitigated a lot of those problems too.

[ElNono]

From a usage standpoint, the "superior" system is what works for you, IMO.

[MannyIsGod]

Fact is, if you know what you're buying, you know what baggage it comes with.
I've had my good share of Windows reinstalls, and my good share of Mac crashes or hardware failures.

Windows 7 and MacOS X have really mitigated a lot of those problems too.

I've had a few bad rounds with BSOD and windows re installs but in each case the culprit turned out to be bad memory or a bad HDD.

One thing that was definitely more noticeable in older versions of windows (I'm thinking 95 and 98) was the lag that would develop after time. Your system would generally slow down and a new format/windows install might help you get speed.

[RGMCSE]

Hey chief when you buy a mac do you realize your done with it? aside from maybe a memory upgrade at very expensive prices your stuck with what you purchased. I can take my PC and do what ever the fuck I want with it. If I want to run all OS known to man I can. Its called virtualization. Not only that I can customize the hardware needed. What can you do with that piece of fruit?

[MannyIsGod]

From a usage standpoint, the "superior" system is what works for you, IMO.

Agree completely.

[RGMCSE]

Just switched from PC to Mac. I watched in disgust as my PC did a spinning wheel and then interpeted some previous command as a "delete all my emails in Outlook (LookOut) command." Windows is a shitty, undependable OS and MS programs, especially Lookout, are buggy as hell. I use my computer to run a business and I need something that works without screwing up. I am more technical than the average person but I do not have time to jack around with the computer-it just needs to do what it is supposed to do.
Ended up that I had to install Windows on the Mac because I could not find a good substitute for ACT and I discovered, ironically, that Windows seems more stable running in Parallels.
I am happy I switched. Now I get my work done and spend less time messing around trying to get the computer to do what it needs to do. A PC seems like a bad investment when you measure the cost of time you have to spend jacking around with them to get things done. I place a high value on my time.


So let me get this straight, you made the switch from PC to Mac then found out that Windows is actually what you needed and installed Windows OS on your overpriced Mac hardware?

[ElNono]

I've had a few bad rounds with BSOD and windows re installs but in each case the culprit turned out to be bad memory or a bad HDD.

One thing that was definitely more noticeable in older versions of windows (I'm thinking 95 and 98) was the lag that would develop after time. Your system would generally slow down and a new format/windows install might help you get speed.

It was buggy, and so was MacOS 8 & 9 at the time. The Mac didn't have the the slowdown or need a reinstall, but it did have the same crashes and freezes from the lack of memory protection, just like 95/98. XP actually came before OS X, and solved that, which was huge and IMO made it a superior OS at the time.

[silverblk mystix]

Hey chief when you buy a mac do you realize your done with it? aside from maybe a memory upgrade at very expensive prices your stuck with what you purchased. I can take my PC and do what ever the fuck I want with it. If I want to run all OS known to man I can. Its called virtualization. Not only that I can customize the hardware needed. What can you do with that piece of fruit?

Sounds like you would not buy a Porsche because it is already great...

instead you would buy a shit car and try to improve it....:lmao

it is like putting lipstick on a pig....:lmao

[ElNono]

Hey chief when you buy a mac do you realize your done with it? aside from maybe a memory upgrade at very expensive prices your stuck with what you purchased. I can take my PC and do what ever the fuck I want with it. If I want to run all OS known to man I can. Its called virtualization. Not only that I can customize the hardware needed. What can you do with that piece of fruit?

Macs have virtualization too. You can also boot them into other OSes also (including windows).

There's also the fact that, with some tweaks, you can run MacOS X on fairly generic PC hardware too, and you end up with the benefits of both worlds: A cheap, upgradable system and the niceties of what MacOS X brings.

Then again, if you're comfortable with your Windows, what's the point?

[ALVAREZ6]

One regard that I prefer Macs is the efficiency of starting the computer. With my Dell PC, it takes a while to be able to begin using the computer from the time I start it or open it back up out of a "hibernate" or "sleep" mode. With a Mac, there's very little wait time at all; you just open the damn thing and start using it. This is a pain in the ass that influences me to keep my computer on for much longer periods of time. It's sort of a stupid thing to bitch about since this effect can only waste a tiny amount of time out of my day, but it's still a frequent inconvenience. I hate when I just shut my PC (putting it in sleep mode) and realize there was one thing I forget to check before I leave for work or class, like the weather or location of a meeting, etc. With my busy schedule I usually leave my place to make me exactly on time. If I had a Mac, none of this would matter.

I don't know how much this has changed with more recent models from typical companies like Dell since I bought mine about 3 years ago. But it's not like I bought some bum ass machine, my Dell is on the high end for performance and the price was comparable to a Mac.

[DMC]

Maybe you should research a little about Macs...and you will find out that...
there is no need for "computer upkeep"...as this would take valuable time away for the work you are trying to accomplish...or from the fun you are having on your Mac...while PC users are "upkeeping"...

So the hardware used in Macs never experience any failures, no issues?

If they fail you send it in because you cannot fix it. I can fix my own shit. I've not had a PC failure in 10 years, and back when I did it was because I was overclocking the shit out of things and couldn't cool enough.

Do you think forest gnomes bring the Macbooks to stores, with a magical "no fail" invisible veil?


This is a big thing that surprises many people when they switch over to Macs...they are pleasantly surprised to find out that things just make sense on a Mac and they are user friendly...
Sounds like something a woman would say going from a pickup to a Prius. The cupholders are just right where you need them. What's under the hood? Hell I don't know, it's all covered in some plastic and the dealer does it.


It does not mean that it makes anyone stupid...the statement you made is what is stupid...
It means you are either

A: too fucking stupid to use a PC

B: too fucking lazy to use a PC

C: fag



it is like saying that you'd rather have a car that breaks down on you regularly and leaves you stranded...because this makes you a "competent" car owner...while those idiots who drive around in dependable cars are doing so because they are too stupid to fix the car....:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
Lets see you get 400K miles from your "dependable" car. I get that much from my "non-dependable" trucks, but then I am the dependable one. Machines break, they have flaws, and I find ways to make them work better. I don't just go buy another one.

I am not surprised that some pseudo enlightened prison guard who wants a VW would be enamored by a Mac.

You would pay twice the going PC rate for something you feel you don't have to know anything about. On the other hand, I know enough to be self sufficient, so I can build my own if I choose to. Let's see you build your own Mac.

It's like trading in every 35K and keeping a large monthly payment because you are too intimidated by the thought of maintenance on your own vehicle. It's just so easy when you let others do it for you.

Metrosexual thing you

The Macs break also. If you think they don't you're dumber than you act here and that's hard to believe.

[byrontx]

So let me get this straight, you made the switch from PC to Mac then found out that Windows is actually what you needed and installed Windows OS on your overpriced Mac hardware?

Nope. That is not what I said. I do not use only one program, Einstein. I commented on the fact that it is surprising that Windows, for some reason, seemed more stable running under Parallels.
When I started with computers there were no PC's or Macs and the operating systems I used were CPM and Xenix (a form of Unix). I can build my own PC's if I ever had the notion. I briefly considered moving to an open-source platform but really those OS's while perhaps more stable suffer from a lack of consistency in the interface and clunky feel.
Bottom-line is my time is valuable and the Mac lets me get my work done quickly and simply. Please don't tell me you use a PC and do not have problems with it. If that is the case you must be using it as a doorstop.

[silverblk mystix]

So the hardware used in Macs never experience any failures, no issues?

If they fail you send it in because you cannot fix it. I can fix my own shit. I've not had a PC failure in 10 years, and back when I did it was because I was overclocking the shit out of things and couldn't cool enough.

Do you think forest gnomes bring the Macbooks to stores, with a magical "no fail" invisible veil?
Sounds like something a woman would say going from a pickup to a Prius. The cupholders are just right where you need them. What's under the hood? Hell I don't know, it's all covered in some plastic and the dealer does it.
It means you are either

A: too fucking stupid to use a PC

B: too fucking lazy to use a PC

C: fag


Lets see you get 400K miles from your "dependable" car. I get that much from my "non-dependable" trucks, but then I am the dependable one. Machines break, they have flaws, and I find ways to make them work better. I don't just go buy another one.

I am not surprised that some pseudo enlightened prison guard who wants a VW would be enamored by a Mac.

You would pay twice the going PC rate for something you feel you don't have to know anything about. On the other hand, I know enough to be self sufficient, so I can build my own if I choose to. Let's see you build your own Mac.

It's like trading in every 35K and keeping a large monthly payment because you are too intimidated by the thought of maintenance on your own vehicle. It's just so easy when you let others do it for you.

Metrosexual thing you

The Macs break also. If you think they don't you're dumber than you act here and that's hard to believe.

So what you are really saying is that your PC makes you feel more like a man?

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

I've heard of people buying big trucks and big engines and shit due to their trying to overcome a small penis...

but for you....a PC makes you a real man! Priceless :lmao:lmao:lmao

[ALVAREZ6]

this thread is relatively entertaining, so i ask keep it up

[MannyIsGod]

One regard that I prefer Macs is the efficiency of starting the computer. With my Dell PC, it takes a while to be able to begin using the computer from the time I start it or open it back up out of a "hibernate" or "sleep" mode. With a Mac, there's very little wait time at all; you just open the damn thing and start using it. This is a pain in the ass that influences me to keep my computer on for much longer periods of time. It's sort of a stupid thing to bitch about since this effect can only waste a tiny amount of time out of my day, but it's still a frequent inconvenience. I hate when I just shut my PC (putting it in sleep mode) and realize there was one thing I forget to check before I leave for work or class, like the weather or location of a meeting, etc. With my busy schedule I usually leave my place to make me exactly on time. If I had a Mac, none of this would matter.

I don't know how much this has changed with more recent models from typical companies like Dell since I bought mine about 3 years ago. But it's not like I bought some bum ass machine, my Dell is on the high end for performance and the price was comparable to a Mac.

Might just be the hardware. If you're looking at macbook airs with solid state or flash media then they'll always boot up WAY faster than a machine with a regular old HDD.

[ALVAREZ6]

Might just be the hardware. If you're looking at macbook airs with solid state or flash media then they'll always boot up WAY faster than a machine with a regular old HDD.

Probably. I guess one option is to not be lazy and research my next purchase more thoroughly, or pay one of my computer nerd friends build me a sick ass machine. But that's also why I can justify a Mac for someone like me and also why I actually buy some of silverblk mystix's points in this thread. When it comes to something I use for 4-8 hours daily that will last me years, an extra few hundred bucks doesn't matter at all.

[Drachen]

Might just be the hardware. If you're looking at macbook airs with solid state or flash media then they'll always boot up WAY faster than a machine with a regular old HDD.

A buddy of mine just upgraded his desktop and one of the things that he did was install a SSD. He told me that the windows portion of the boot up takes lest time than the BIOS' POST. He also mentioned that the windows on sound isn't even finished playing and his computer is already ready to use. Crazy.

[MannyIsGod]

Probably. I guess one option is to not be lazy and research my next purchase more thoroughly, or pay one of my computer nerd friends build me a sick ass machine. But that's also why I can justify a Mac for someone like me and also why I actually buy some of silverblk mystix's points in this thread. When it comes to something I use for 4-8 hours daily that will last me years, an extra few hundred bucks doesn't matter at all.

Just do research. You can definitely get a windows machine for cheaper but if you like the speed of an SSD I'm not sure how the prices compare. I do think the MacBook air laptops are bad ass though.

[silverblk mystix]

A buddy of mine just upgraded his desktop and one of the things that he did was install a SSD. He told me that the windows portion of the boot up takes lest time than the BIOS' POST. He also mentioned that the windows on sound isn't even finished playing and his computer is already ready to use. Crazy.

and the SS DRIVES are slowly coming down in price...it is definitely a hot technology...

[MannyIsGod]

A buddy of mine just upgraded his desktop and one of the things that he did was install a SSD. He told me that the windows portion of the boot up takes lest time than the BIOS' POST. He also mentioned that the windows on sound isn't even finished playing and his computer is already ready to use. Crazy.

Yeah - pretty awesome when you're not limited by physical movements in a device and can just pretty much operate as fast as the electronics.

[Drachen]

and the SS DRIVES are slowly coming down in price...it is definitely a hot technology...

Yeah, I told him about it because it was a super saver deal on newegg a couple of weeks ago 64 GB for 59 dollars, but it was a brand we didn't know anything about. He got the itch though and ended up buying a good brand 128 GB for 160. I will start thinking seriously about them when they get to about a buck a gig for a good brand (seeing as I just bought a new laptop, it will just supercharge that bitch).

[ElNono]

Just do research. You can definitely get a windows machine for cheaper but if you like the speed of an SSD I'm not sure how the prices compare. I do think the MacBook air laptops are bad ass though.

I think they suck, actually.

[ElNono]

Solid State Drives definitely provide a major boost. They're still pricey though.
And you can retrofit those on any Mac/Windoze/Unix.

[MannyIsGod]

I think they suck, actually.

:lol You don't carry around 3 or 4 huge textbooks in a backpack plus a 6lb laptop though. Next laptop I get will have good specs but a small monitor. I'll just hook it up to one here at home.

[ElNono]

:lol You don't carry around 3 or 4 huge textbooks in a backpack plus a 6lb laptop though. Next laptop I get will have good specs but a small monitor. I'll just hook it up to one here at home.

:lol definitely not. Only use portables when I travel, and an iPad has been sufficient, tbh.

[baseline bum]

:lol You don't carry around 3 or 4 huge textbooks in a backpack plus a 6lb laptop though. Next laptop I get will have good specs but a small monitor. I'll just hook it up to one here at home.

Should have majored in CS, math, or physics where all the textbooks from freshman to graduate level are available as .pdfs/.djvus tbh.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Got my Dell laptop working again :tu, now I have one to use for Access and Visio and can do projects for work at my house.

[ALVAREZ6]

Should have majored in CS, math, or physics where all the textbooks from freshman to graduate level are available as .pdfs/.djvus tbh.

Or Finance and Economics because the concepts are easy as fuck to understand and thus having textbooks is not critical, and your earning potential relative to the amount of effort you need to put in during college is solid.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Or Finance and Economics because the concepts are easy as fuck to understand and thus having textbooks is not critical, and your earning potential relative to the amount of effort you need to put in during college is solid.
Are you finance or econ tbh

I'm accounting and finance, woulda done econ but too much writing

[ALVAREZ6]

Are you finance or econ tbh

I'm accounting and finance, woulda done econ but too much writing

Both, tbh. And I haven't had to do much writing at all for either of my majors tbh. As Louie CK puts it, this shit is thoroughly good.

[Fernando TD21]

Pc

[Drachen]

Both, tbh. And I haven't had to do much writing at all for either of my majors tbh. As Louie CK puts it, this shit is thoroughly good.

I am doing an MBA/F and I can see where you are coming from.

[DMC]

I am an enlightened metrosexual prison guard and I own a Mac

That's what I was saying. Glad we agree.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lmao "metrosexual prison guard"


sounds like prime shower bait

[silverblk mystix]

:lmao "metrosexual prison guard"


sounds like prime shower bait

Don't hate. Appreciate.

Besides....I don't rag on your chosen profession...you don't hear me giving you shit on your choice of squeegee....or which window cleaner to use to wipe down windshields....

and you don't hear me ragging on your choice of corners to do this do you?


:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[DMC]

Don't hate. Appreciate.

Besides....I don't rag on your chosen profession...you don't hear me giving you shit on your choice of squeegee....or which window cleaner to use to wipe down windshields....

and you don't hear me ragging on your choice of corners to do this do you?


:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

How do the prisoners feel about Macs? Can you take a poll tonight while you are doing your "rounds" and find out which of your caged comrades prefer the feminine Mac over the masculine PC? Post your results if you can still walk.

[bus driver]

Maybe you should research a little about Macs...and you will find out that...
there is no need for "computer upkeep"...as this would take valuable time away for the work you are trying to accomplish...or from the fun you are having on your Mac...while PC users are "upkeeping"...

This is a big thing that surprises many people when they switch over to Macs...they are pleasantly surprised to find out that things just make sense on a Mac and they are user friendly...

It does not mean that it makes anyone stupid...the statement you made is what is stupid...

it is like saying that you'd rather have a car that breaks down on you regularly and leaves you stranded...because this makes you a "competent" car owner...while those idiots who drive around in dependable cars are doing so because they are too stupid to fix the car....:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao


do you own a mac? if so than you know that the damn itunes has an update every week. No computer upkeep :lmao ya neither does windows; just ignore the updates. :lmao

[silverblk mystix]

do you own a mac? if so than you know that the damn itunes has an update every week. No computer upkeep :lmao ya neither does windows; just ignore the updates. :lmao

I own three Macs.

Itunes updates....ok...you click yes...and minimize...and continue to do what you were doing...

you don't have to sit there and "babysit" the computer and answer 20 fucking questions....

"are you sure you want to...."

"do you agree to....."

"are you sure...you want to end this session?"

[silverblk mystix]

How do the prisoners feel about Macs? Can you take a poll tonight while you are doing your "rounds" and find out which of your caged comrades prefer the feminine Mac over the masculine PC? Post your results if you can still walk.

I would give you or ANYONE on this board....1 week....ONE WEEK...to work with these guys...and


THEN


you would never speak favorably of them again....you would support the death penalty...and you would question life and you would question your existence....

you would stop being a cop or law enforcement hater....

you would come to see that some people are WORSE than fuckin' animals...you would never UTTER another word against anyone in my field...

ONE WEEK....:lmao

[ALVAREZ6]

do you own a mac? if so than you know that the damn itunes has an update every week. No computer upkeep :lmao ya neither does windows; just ignore the updates. :lmao

itunes is not Mac-specific. it's its own program that regularly releases updates, much like whichever browser you use such as Explorer, Firefox, Chrome, etc. That's not upkeep.

[silverblk mystix]

itunes is not Mac-specific. it's its own program that regularly releases updates, much like whichever browser you use such as Explorer, Firefox, Chrome, etc. That's not upkeep.

Thanks.

But some people can't try something new simply because it is new.

[bus driver]

itunes is not Mac-specific. it's its own program that regularly releases updates, much like whichever browser you use such as Explorer, Firefox, Chrome, etc. That's not upkeep.

but it is still up keep on the computer regardless if it is mac specific. although my mac wants to run updates also. so that is why i dont understand the mac has no up keep stance. they both require up keep.....:wakeup

[Viva Las Espuelas]

How do the prisoners feel about Macs? Can you take a poll tonight while you are doing your "rounds" and find out which of your caged comrades prefer the feminine Mac over the masculine PC? Post your results if you can still walk.

Prisoners?? You're the one using only a pc. :lol

[Viva Las Espuelas]

itunes is not Mac-specific. it's its own program that regularly releases updates, much like whichever browser you use such as Explorer, Firefox, Chrome, etc. That's not upkeep.

I guess it feels like upkeep on a pc. <shrugs>

[RGMCSE]

Sounds like were all mixing this whole debate the fuck up. Mac OS is nice and cool for a small sector of consumers and professions. PC server and client based PC's are preferred in the business world. Everyone's perspective is different though. There are some who need that fancy fruity Mac to run straight out the box and all they need to worry about is taking the MasterCard out of the wallet to create a new data plan for Itunes or purchase a new app for convenience. They need that security and hand holding to feel comfort within the bounds of that Apple community that they wont break anything or else back to the repair shop.

Then their are those of us who don't feel like upgrading, updating modifying or troubleshooting is a big deal but a fantastic option to have the ability to configure your own Box whether a Windows OS or Linux or whatever without having to over pay for it either. Their are those of us that do not find it difficult or are not scared to fix a problem or make a modification.


I have a couple of questions:

1. How many people here have modded a game console? If so why did you do it? Are you a Mac user?

2. When you consider buying a stereo, do you just buy Bose or some other all in one component? Or do you purchase the individual components to put together the best sounding devices you can get? Are you a Mac user?


Just curious...

[DMC]

I own three Macs.

Itunes updates....ok...you click yes...and minimize...and continue to do what you were doing...

you don't have to sit there and "babysit" the computer and answer 20 fucking questions....

"are you sure you want to...."

"do you agree to....."

"are you sure...you want to end this session?"

If you aren't a total fucking tool, you can alter UAC.

I don't have to acknowledge shit.

Again, it requires you to do more than just find out where the pluggy inny thinggy goes.

[DMC]

Prisoners?? You're the one using only a pc. :lol

Yeah, he works with prisoners.

[DMC]

I'm still waiting for someone to define "upkeep" in terms of PC upkeep. If it's not software, then it must be hardware. Components are components, they all break.

The processors are all manufactured in semiconductor fabs using the same processes. The memory isn't from an alien life form, it's from another fab. The HDD is built at a HDD factory. The monitor is a fucking monitor, only 3x the normal going rate and a white plastic cover.

So where's the upkeep on the PC?

[ALVAREZ6]

I see upkeep as having to make modifications to solve random problems that occur...such as viruses, random driver issues, a slowing performance speed, or other random things that aren't doing what they're supposed to be doing. Not installing 10-second updates (lmfao) or replacing broken monitors.

At least that's what I think the original user of the term meant, but only from memory, did not actually go back and see who whipped out "upkeep" first :lol.

[DMC]

The only reason you would have random driver issues is if you upgraded your hardware or built your own PC and needed to find the updated drivers for the hardware.

I suppose the Mac is like an apartment where all maintenance is covered, but you are restricted in use. A PC would be a home, where you are responsible for the upkeep but you can build it how you like.

[ALVAREZ6]

The only reason you would have random driver issues is if you upgraded your hardware or built your own PC and needed to find the updated drivers for the hardware.

I suppose the Mac is like an apartment where all maintenance is covered, but you are restricted in use. A PC would be a home, where you are responsible for the upkeep but you can build it how you like.
I have had driver issues (with my webcam for example), never upgraded my hardware or built my own PC. Simply paid somewhere between $1500-$1800 for a high performance Dell laptop. And I'd like to think I'm relatively smart with my PC use. Most of my use is rather simple and haven't done any tweaking, and I've had roughly 3 annoying ass problems in the 3 years of this computer's life.

I'm not really arguing for either side here, I see pros and cons and can accept either decision (Mac or PC), and think both sides of the argument have exaggerated things.

[ElNono]

The only reason you would have random driver issues is if you upgraded your hardware or built your own PC and needed to find the updated drivers for the hardware.

I suppose the Mac is like an apartment where all maintenance is covered, but you are restricted in use. A PC would be a home, where you are responsible for the upkeep but you can build it how you like.

Basically. Even buying hardware that says "Mac compatible" normally means you won't have to deal with drivers. Most "supported" hardware have drivers built in, including printers/scanners.

The whole mantra of "just works", basically. It also has it's limitations, obviously. Thing is, depends on what you do. I like the convenience of hooking up a printer and having it "just work".

And the driver problem in Windows sometimes shows itself on games. Needing newer drivers for X game to run smoothly. I actually got bit with this the last time I ran XP (a couple of years ago). Machine froze in the middle of the update -> SOL.

MS has done a better job on this with Win7.

[koriwhat]

1. How many people here have modded a game console? If so why did you do it? Are you a Mac user?

playstation (solder the chip + wires), dreamcast (boot disc), and the 360 (flash the firmware). i did it because $60 for a shitty game is annoying to find out after you've spent that dough on something you thought would be worth it, plus they're relatively easy to mod. oh and yes, i'm a mac user.

[koriwhat]

I suppose the Mac is like an apartment where all maintenance is covered, but you are restricted in use. A PC would be a home, where you are responsible for the upkeep but you can build it how you like.

what a bad analogy that was.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If you need your hand held theough out the process then Mac's are okay I guess. If you ever need to do anything beyond browsing and word processing then I would recommend a PC.

Not to mention PC is infinitely cheaper if you know how to build them.

The problem that I have with most Mac users is that they approach it as a fashion thing.

Oh and one other thing. From the batteries they commissioned for the first iphone all the way through all the shitty hardware they use for anything with moving parts. Mac is notorious for cutting corners constantly on hardware.

You can sit there and bash MS and thts fine they deserve a lot of criticism but I could use a linux shelletc..

What Mac does not offer is choice and customability. With PC, you have MS, Linux, DFI, Asus, Samsung, Asrock, Kingston, Buffalo, Intel, AMD, and on and on. With Mac the hardware you get is going to be from them and its going to be cut rate. Why? Becaause you are beholden to them.

I personally hate the Mac networking interface and that by itself is enough to drive me off. But i have tried various products of theirs over the years and have consistently had faulty batteries, hard drives and displays.

At least with PC, I have a choice.