TS%-Kobe

[Nathan89]

Just a list of where Kobe's TS% ranks on the Lakers during championship seasons.(based off of the top 8 players)

Regular season TS%--Playoff TS%
2000-------------3--6
2001-------------3--4
2002-------------4--5
2009-------------3--4
2010-------------3--4



:lmao Clutch
:lmao 3rd best player
:lmao Can't lead the team in TS%
:lmao Can't have the 2nd highest TS%
:lmao Can't win without a top 5 talent in the NBA

:lmao Leads the team in rape.

[Giuseppe]

You got no room, Nate. Your Neal raped too. You're in the Rapist's Club with us.

Welcome, daddy.

[Deuce Bigalow]

:lmao
a Shooting Guard cant lead his team in TS%, what a loser :lol

[Nathan89]

:lmao
a Shooting Guard cant lead his team in TS%, what a loser :lol

or come in second.

I thought TS% was the fair way to compare players because it takes everything into account.

[FkLA]

One of the most overrated players of all-time. Nigga is definitely a TOP 20 player of all-time but the media hypes him up to be so much more than that. His last 10 or so all-defense nods have been handed to him with no merit. And the media conveniently ignores that without a premier bigman on his team hes done no better than players like Tmac, VC, or AI. Could be argued that he did even worse.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Duncan's last 2 championship years Playoff TS%
.526%
.556%

Kobe's last 2 championship years Playoff TS%
.564%
.567%

A SG having better efficiency than a 7 footer
:lol

[Deuce Bigalow]

One of the most overrated players of all-time. Nigga is definitely a TOP 20 player of all-time but the media hypes him up to be so much more than that. His last 10 or so all-defense nods have been handed to him with no merit. And the media conveniently ignores that without a premier bigman on his team hes done no better than players like Tmac, VC, or AI. Could be argued that he did even worse.

kobe lead his team to the Finals in 2008 without an All-Star or All-NBA Teammate, which only has been done 7 times

[Nathan89]

Duncan's last 2 championship years Playoff TS%
.526%
.556%

Kobe's last 2 championship years Playoff TS%
.564%
.567%

:lol

Duncan has led his team in TS%.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Duncan has led his team in TS%.

when ?

not when they won the championship, and hes 7 foot, who cares if he did :lol
7 footers are supposed to shoot the highest efficiency

[Nathan89]

when ?

not when they won the championship, and hes 7 foot, who cares if he did :lol
7 footers are supposed to shoot the highest efficiency

1999 playoffs
2003 regular season

TS% isn't the fair way to compare players?

[FkLA]

kobe lead his team to the Finals in 2008 without an All-Star or All-NBA Teammate, which only has been done 7 times

Probably because Gasol spent most of that season with the lowly Grizzlies so he didnt get any all-nba or all-star nods. Kome wouldve led the Lakers to another 1st round exit without MVPau :lol

[midnightpulp]

Lol at TS%

[Deuce Bigalow]

Probably because Gasol spent most of that season with the lowly Grizzlies so he didnt get any all-nba or all-star. Kome wouldve led the Lakers to another 1st round exit without MVPau :lol

Pau made the Allstar team in 2006 and won ROY in 02
Lebron made the allstar teams in cleveland when they were shit, so did Jordan, so did Kobe, so did Tmac, ect when there teams sucked
excuses excuses :blah

[FkLA]

Why even bother using TS% to make Kobe look bad. His actual FG% is bad enough especially in the playoffs :lol

[Deuce Bigalow]

and before the Pau trade, the Lakers were 30-16, the best record in the Western Conference

[Deuce Bigalow]

Why even bother using TS% to make Kobe look bad. His actual FG% is bad enough especially in the playoffs :lol

45-46% is bad for a SG that takes about 4 3s a game?

[midnightpulp]

and before the Pau trade, the Lakers were 30-16, the best record in the Western Conference

But their record against playoff teams during that stretch was terrible. It was fool's gold.

[Deuce Bigalow]

But their record against playoff teams during that stretch was terrible. It was fool's gold.


and getting the #1 seed in the West. Conf is fools gold?
man, theses Spurs fans are sad

[FkLA]

Both AI and VC have led equally shitty teams farther than Kome ever led his Lakers without a premier bigman.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Both AI and VC have led equally shitty teams farther than Kome ever led his Lakers without a premier bigman.

how?

Kobe went to the Finals

[FkLA]

how?

Kobe went to the Finals

before or after mvpau arrived?

[Deuce Bigalow]

Just letting you know that Dekembe Mutumbo (AI's bigman) won Defensive Player of The Year, went to the Allstar game, made All_NBA and ALl-Defensive teams in 2000-01

and Vince? lol

[Deuce Bigalow]

before or after mvpau arrived?

Lakers were 30-16 without him

[FkLA]

Just letting you know that Dekembe Mutumbo (AI's bigman) won Defensive Player of The Year, went to the Allstar game, made All_NBA and ALl-Defensive teams in 2000-01

and Vince? lol

He was a defensive presence.

Vince led his team to Game 7 of the conference semis. Farther than Kome ever got without MVPau and the MDE.


Lakers were 30-16 without him

Noted. Did Kome lead the Lakers to the Finals in 08' before or after MVPau arrived though ?

[midnightpulp]

and getting the #1 seed in the West. Conf is fools gold?
man, theses Spurs fans are sad

Now you're back to being retarded. When they were in first place in the Western Conference before the Gasol trade, the had a relatively soft schedule, a losing record against playoff teams, and were 1 and 5 against Boston, SA, and Detroit, the other championship contenders.

It was fool's good, and the Lakers before the Gasol trade weren't as good as their record indicated.

[midnightpulp]

Lakers were 30-16 without him

Soft schedule and a losing record against playoff teams.

Fool's gold.

[Giuseppe]

Why even bother using TS% to make Kobe look bad. His actual FG% is bad enough especially in the playoffs :lol

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[Deuce Bigalow]

He was a defensive presence.

Vince led his team to Game 7 of the conference semis. Farther than Kome ever got without MVPau and the MDE.



Noted. Did Kome lead the Lakers to the Finals in 08' before or after MVPau arrived though ?

Pau wasnt even an All-Star or All-NBA Player!
what do you not understand, he was soft and weak in 08

[Deuce Bigalow]

Now you're back to being retarded. When they were in first place in the Western Conference before the Gasol trade, the had a relatively soft schedule, a losing record against playoff teams, and were 1 and 5 against Boston, SA, and Detroit, the other championship contenders.

It was fool's good, and the Lakers before the Gasol trade weren't as good as their record indicated.

:lol idiot

[Deuce Bigalow]

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

:lol

[FkLA]

Pau wasnt even an All-Star or All-NBA Player!
what do you not understand, he was soft and weak in 08

Before or after MVPau arrived? :lol

[Giuseppe]

Pau wasnt even an All-Star or All-NBA Player!
what do you not understand, he was soft and weak in 08

& in 11.

tee, hee.

[jag]

& in 11.

tee, hee.

:rolleyes

[Deuce Bigalow]

Before or after MVPau arrived? :lol

the whole season

[Nathan89]

Pau wasnt even an All-Star or All-NBA Player!
what do you not understand, he was soft and weak in 08

Do you know what Duncan did without any All-stars on the team?

[Deuce Bigalow]

Do you know what Duncan did without any All-stars on the team?

won the championship
http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/images/GifGuide/clapping/citizen_cane.gif

but the difference is that the Spurs got to play the Nets in the Finals
Lakers had to play Boston

[midnightpulp]

won the championship
http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/images/GifGuide/clapping/citizen_cane.gif

but the difference is that the Spurs got to play the Nets in the Finals
Lakers had to play Boston

And if Kobe didn't let Paul Pierce beat his ass, he might've accomplished the same feat.

But aside from 36 to 6, Kobe got worked by The Truth in every single game :lol

[jag]

And if Kobe didn't let Paul Pierce beat his ass, he might've accomplished the same feat.

But aside from 36 to 6, Kobe got worked by The Truth in every single game :lol

:corn:

[midnightpulp]

:corn:

Throwing out 36 to 6, which skew Kobe's overall stats into something respectable, he was flat out dominated by Paul Pierce.

Damn:

Game 1:

Pierce - 22 points on 70%

Bryant - 24 points on 35%

Game 2:

Bryant - 30 points on 48%

Pierce - 28 points on 56%

Game 4 (by far the most important game in the series):

Bryant - 17 points on 32%

Pierce - 20 points on 46%

Game - 5

Bryant - 25 points on 38%

Pierce - 38 points on 46%

Game - 6 (the legendary 39)

Bryant - 22 points on 32% with 1 assist

Pierce - 17 points on 30% but had 10 assists to Bryant's 1.

[Deuce Bigalow]

And if Kobe didn't let Paul Pierce beat his ass, he might've accomplished the same feat.

But aside from 36 to 6, Kobe got worked by The Truth in every single game :lol

HeQks7IiNOk

sealed game 5

[Nathan89]

won the championship
http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/images/GifGuide/clapping/citizen_cane.gif

but the difference is that the Spurs got to play the Nets in the Finals
Lakers had to play Boston

:lol

:lobt2: - People can say what they want about the Nets but the Spurs came back from a 8 pt deficit in the 4th and Duncan almost had a quadruple-double to keep that series from going 7. no all-stars.

but the real difference is Lakers had a legitimate all-star in Pau.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Throwing out 36 to 6, which skew Kobe's overall stats into something respectable, he was flat out dominated by Paul Pierce.

Damn:

Game 1:

Pierce - 22 points on 70%

Bryant - 24 points on 35%

Game 2:

Bryant - 30 points on 48%

Pierce - 28 points on 56%

Game 4 (by far the most important game in the series):

Bryant - 17 points on 32%

Pierce - 20 points on 46%

Game - 5

Bryant - 25 points on 38%

Pierce - 38 points on 46%

Game - 6 (the legendary 39)

Bryant - 22 points on 32% with 1 assist

Pierce - 17 points on 30% but had 10 assists to Bryant's 1.


36 to 6
:lol

[midnightpulp]

HeQks7IiNOk

sealed game 5

Game - 5

Bryant - 25 points on 38% :lol

Pierce - 38 points on 46%

[midnightpulp]

36 to 6
:lol

5 games of complete domination of the "MVP" to his 1 :lol

[Deuce Bigalow]

:lol

:lobt2: - People can say what they want about the Nets but the Spurs came back from a 8 pt deficit in the 4th and Duncan almost had a quadruple-double to keep that series from going 7. no all-stars.

but the real difference is Lakers had a legitimate all-star in Pau.

1. nets were not even as close to as good as the Celtics
2. pau was not an allstar, proving that in the 08 playoffs with his soft play

[Deuce Bigalow]

Game - 5

Bryant - 25 points on 38% :lol

Pierce - 38 points on 46%

then Kobe owns him in the 4th quarter, like stealing candy from a baby

[Nathan89]

36 to 6
:lol

That's one game.

It's better to hit a home-run in 5 consecutive games than to his 5 home-runs in one game.

[Deuce Bigalow]

the whole series average

Kobe - 26/5/5/3/0
Peirce - 22/5/6/1/0

[midnightpulp]

then Kobe owns him in the 4th quarter, like stealing candy from a baby

But Paul owned him the entire series, and actually stole the candy from the baby.

[Deuce Bigalow]

But Paul owned him the entire series, and actually stole the candy from the baby.

Kobe - 26/5/5/3/0
Peirce - 22/5/6/1/0

:lol

[midnightpulp]

the whole series average

Kobe - 26/5/5/3/0
Peirce - 22/5/6/1/0

Lol Kobe needing that one game to make it look respectable. Throw out game 3 and recalculate their stats. Let's see how they match up after that.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Lol Kobe needing that one game to make it look respectable. Throw out game 3 and recalculate their stats. Let's see how they match up after that.

wtf?
you cant just throw out games, wtf is this
idiot

[Deuce Bigalow]

36 points on 60%
6 points on 14%

:lol

[Nathan89]

1. nets were not even as close to as good as the Celtics
2. pau was not an allstar, proving that in the 08 playoffs with his soft play

19pts-8rebounds-.590 TS%- If that's not a all-star caliber player I don't know what is.

2003- Spurs didn't even have a all-star caliber player.

[midnightpulp]

:cry Kobe got outplayed in every game but one :cry

5 games to 1 :lol

[Nathan89]

the whole series average

Kobe - 26/5/5/3/0
Peirce - 22/5/6/1/0


That's one game.

It's better to hit a home-run in 5 consecutive games than to his 5 home-runs in one game.

Do you not agree?

[Deuce Bigalow]

19pts-8rebounds-.590 TS%- If that's not a all-star caliber player I don't know what is.

2003- Spurs didn't even have a all-star caliber player.

8 rebounds for a 7 footer :lmao
thats allstar caliber? :lol

kobe averaged 8 rpg in the 10 finals, come on now

[Deuce Bigalow]

5 games to 1 :lol

Kobe - 26/5/5/3/0
Peirce - 22/5/6/1/0

[Deuce Bigalow]

Do you not agree?

Kobe - 26/5/5/3/0
Peirce - 22/5/6/1/0

[midnightpulp]

Kobe - 26/5/5/3/0
Peirce - 22/5/6/1/0

5 games to 1.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Gasol's FG% in 2007-08 in Memphis - .501
Gasol FG% with Kobe - .589

[Nathan89]

8 rebounds for a 7 footer :lmao
thats allstar caliber? :lol

kobe averaged 8 rpg in the 10 finals, come on now

.590 TS% though:wow

[Nathan89]

Gasol's FG% in 2007-08 in Memphis - .501
Gasol FG% with Kobe - .589

Double teamed in Memphis
Not double teamed in LA

[Deuce Bigalow]

.590 TS% though:wow

2007-08
Gasol's TS% with Memphis - .566
Gasol's TS% with LA - .639

[Deuce Bigalow]

.590 TS% though:wow

hes 7 foot, so what?
tyson chandler's last season was like .697 :wow

[Jodelo]

Kobe - 26/5/5/3/0

By shooting a brilliant 40%...

[Deuce Bigalow]

By shooting a brilliant 40%...

like duncan, .419 in the 05 finals. brilliant

[Stalin]

mid owning retarded kobe nutriders, nothing new here

[midnightpulp]

like duncan, .419 in the 05 finals. brilliant

Kobe, 38% against those same Pistons in the '04 Finals. Brilliant.

[Jodelo]

like duncan, .419 in the 05 finals. brilliant

But still 42% is better than 40%...

[Deuce Bigalow]

But still 42% is better than 40%...

one is a shooting guard and takes 3s, the other is a 7 footer
:lol

[Deuce Bigalow]

Kobe, 38% against those same Pistons in the '04 Finals. Brilliant.

how many 3s did kobe take compared to duncan?

if you take away the 3 pointers, Kobe shot 43.3% from 2, higher than timmy :lol

[midnightpulp]

one is a shooting guard and takes 3s, the other is a 7 footer
:lol

One got locked down by James Posey while the other was battling one of the best defensive front lines of all time down on the block.

James Posey :lol

[Deuce Bigalow]

One got locked down by James Posey while the other was battling one of the best defensive front lines of all time down on the block.

James Posey :lol

locked down? lol no

[midnightpulp]

how many 3s did kobe take compared to duncan?

if you take away the 3 pointers, Kobe shot 43.3% from 2, higher than timmy :lol

Maybe Kobe should take less 3s then? When you go 2 for 15 in your first 3 games, I think it's a good time to stop taking them. Lol 2 for 15 and 3 for 23 for the series! Wow. How fuckin' stupid do you have to be to keep taking that shot when it's obvious you're sucking at it? Least Duncan kept taking high percentage shots and didn't chuck, like your hero.

And I'll take away Kobe's 3s as soon as you take away game 3.

[midnightpulp]

locked down? lol no

40%. Locked fuckin' down.

[Deuce Bigalow]

40%. Locked fuckin' down.

its actually 41%
thats just 5% off his average, thats a 5/100 FG difference

[midnightpulp]

its actually 41%
thats just 5% off his average, thats a 5/100 FG difference

Yeah, Duncan was just about 8% off his average. That's 8/100 FG difference.

Jesus Christ, you're retarded. Kill yourself, please.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Yeah, Duncan was just about 8% off his average. That's 8/100 FG difference.

Jesus Christ, you're retarded. Kill yourself, please.

:lol

42% for a 7 footer

[midnightpulp]

:lol

42% for a 7 footer

38% for a shooting guard :lol

B-B-But he takes 3 pointers :cry

3-23 from 3 and still can't stop taking them :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

I'm not a fan of TS%, because it accounts for officiating, which fluctuates every game, dependent on the style of officiating of each individual referee..it also doesn't account for the fact that certain teams are allowed to play much more physical D than other teams, therefore, a player that relies heavily on drawing free throws, won't have the same advantage as he usually does..

eFG% is a better stat IMO..3-pointers obviously have to be accounted for, and Kobe fares pretty well in that category..

Kobe from 2006 to 2010: 49.1%, 50.2%, 50.3%, 50.2%, 48.8%..
Wade from 2006 to 2010: 49.9%, 50.2%, 48%, 51.6%, 50%..
Lebron from 2006 to 2010: 51.%, 50.7%, 51.8%, 53%, 54.%..
Jordan from 1991 to 1997(excluding 2 years, including 2 past prime years): 54.7%, 52.6%, 51.%, 52.%, 51.%..