Was Tim Duncan ever considered the best player in the NBA for a season?

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

Discuss

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

Cue the MVP argument

[Fpoonsie]

Yes.

[midnightpulp]

Sup, Jaspers. Any calculated shit bombs ready to drop?

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

Yes.

When?

[midnightpulp]

Better question is: Was Kobe?

99-03 - Shaq or Duncan

04 - Garnett

05 - Duncan

06 - Wade

07 - Dirk in the reg, Duncan in the playoffs.

08 to 10 - Lebron

11 - Dirk

[Giuseppe]

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

Better question is: Was Kobe?

99-03 - Shaq or Duncan

04 - Garnett

05 - Duncan

06 - Wade

07 - Dirk in the reg, Duncan in the playoffs.

08 to 10 - Lebron

11 - Dirk

Kobe from 2005-2011

[midnightpulp]

Kobe from 2005-2011

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao

[mavsfan1000]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao
Dirk's got 2010-2011 but I wouldn't count out Kobe before that.

[midnightpulp]

Dirk's got 2010-2011 but I wouldn't count out Kobe before that.

'05. Injured for 16 games and shot 43% from the field.

'06. You know as well I he wasn't as good as Wade that year.

'07. Dirk's MVP was no "Media gift." He led the league in PER along with leading his team to the best overall record.

'08. Trolling aside, I give this one to Kobe.

'09. Lebron lit up the playoffs. Too bad Mo Williams chose to miss every wide open shot against the Magic in the Eastern Conference Finals.

'10. Lebron wins another MVP. And despite the infamous game where Lebron quit, he played better against the Celtics than Kobe did. But I'll be objective here and say Kobe was the best player in the playoffs.

'11. Dirk. No question.

[Deuce Bigalow]

2000 - 2002 Shaq
2003 Duncan
2004 KG
2005 Shaq
2006 - 2010 Kobe, although Lebron in 2009 is close/tied
2011 - Dirk/Wade/Lebron

[midnightpulp]

2000 - 2002 Shaq
2003 Duncan
2004 KG
2005 Shaq
2006 - 2010 Kobe, although Lebron in 2009 is close/tied
2011 - Dirk/Wade/Lebron

Not bad, except for 06-10. Lebron was far and away the best player in the league in '09. 35, 9, 7 in the playoffs on 51% shooting. No one was close that year. 06 and 07, Dirk had better regular season stats than Kobe, and in 06, Wade was fantastic in the playoffs while Kobe was choking 3 - 1 leads to the Suns. And in 10, Lebron was once again the best player. MVP, best regular season stats, and a strong playoffs, playing better against the Celtics than Kobe did.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Not bad, except for 06-10. Lebron was far and away the best player in the league in '09. 35, 9, 7 in the playoffs on 51% shooting. No one was close that year. 06 and 07, Dirk had better regular season stats than Kobe, and in 06, Wade was fantastic in the playoffs while Kobe was choking 3 - 1 leads to the Suns. And in 10, Lebron was once again the best player. MVP, best regular season stats, and a strong playoffs, playing better against the Celtics than Kobe did.

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thats just one part, coaches, GMs, current and former players agree with me

[Deuce Bigalow]

2006-2008, its not even a question that Kobe was the best player in the league those 3 years
2009-2010, is close, but give me the back to back Finals MVP Champion

[midnightpulp]

anoqbgOZrEg

thats just one part, coaches, GMs, current and former players agree with me

It's easy to cherry pick a variety of quotes during a time when a player was hot and considered the best player in the league and edit it together.

[Deuce Bigalow]

It's easy to cherry pick a variety of quotes during a time when a player was hot and considered the best player in the league and edit it together.

Heres some from 2009-2010

from the GOAT himself
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Alvin gentry
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[midnightpulp]

2006-2008, its not even a question that Kobe was the best player in the league those 3 years
2009-2010, is close, but give me the back to back Finals MVP Champion

Wade's '06 playoffs take a dump on anything Kobe did that year, including that irrelevant 81 point game against a shitty Raptors team. '07, Kobe didn't have the best stats in the league. Dirk did. Which, along with leading his team the best record in the league, is why he won the MVP. And in the playoffs, Duncan had better playoff stats.

Nothing proves he was the best player in the league in '06 and '07. '08, I'll give you. That's the year I personally felt Kobe finally lived up to his hype.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Wade's '06 playoffs take a dump on anything Kobe did that year, including that irrelevant 81 point game against a shitty Raptors team. '07, Kobe didn't have the best stats in the league. Dirk did. Which, along with leading his team the best record in the league, is why he won the MVP. And in the playoffs, Duncan had better playoff stats.

Nothing proves he was the best player in the league in '06 and '07. '08, I'll give you. That's the year I personally felt Kobe finally lived up to his hype.

:lol

because of one series where he averaged 16 free throws a game that means hes better? :lol
Kobe was the 5th player ever to average 35+ppg and averaged 43 ppg in the month of January
in 2007, 10 50pt games and 4 straight 50pt games

Dirk in 2007 :lmao
i dont even need to explain that one, team won 67 games and has #1 seed and lose to 8th seed

Duncan, Duncan, Duncan? did you say Duncan :lol:lol:lol

[Jodelo]

Kobe from 2005-2011

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Deuce Bigalow]

wait, did you say Duncan had better playoff stats than Kobe in 2007?
Duncan - 22/12/3
Kobe - 33/5/4

[Jodelo]

wait, did you say Duncan had better playoff stats than Kobe in 2007?
Duncan - 22/12/3
Kobe - 33/5/4

Easy to have better numbers if you just played 5 games... And that against the defensive lockdown-team from Phoenix!

[Deuce Bigalow]

Easy to have better numbers if you just played 5 games... And that against the defensive lockdown-team from Phoenix!

that was about what he was averaging in the reg season so he would keep that up, but his team was horrid so he couldnt go nowhere

[Koolaid_Man]

Just a little love tap mid....


“I watch all the teams and what they did for LeBron, and [the Heat] still have to go through the Lakers with Kobe Bryant out there, who’s been my favorite player for a long time,’’ said Pacers president Larry Bird. “And I don’t think whatever they do in the East is really going to concern him that much.’’



“(Kobe) rates right there with Jordan.”
- Pat Riley



“Well the NBA is in great hands but if I had to pick the single greatest player on the planet, I take Kobe Bryant without hesitation.” - Michael Jordan



“Everyone knows Kobe is the best in the game.”
- Mike D’Antoni



“We’re witnessing greatness right now. We need to understand that."
- Tyson Chandler :lol



Shane Battier:

“I saw how good Kobe was in my rookie year when I was in Memphis, Battier said. “Everyone makes a big deal out of his 81-point game against the Raptors. But he gave me personally about 63 in my rookie year — in three quarters. And no one really talks about it. He’s unbelievable. Unbelievable. All the praise that he receives, he earns.

[midnightpulp]

:lol

because of one series where he averaged 16 free throws a game that means hes better? :lol
Kobe was the 5th player ever to average 35+ppg and averaged 43 ppg in the month of January
in 2007, 10 50pt games and 4 straight 50pt games

Dirk in 2007 :lmao
i dont even need to explain that one, team won 67 games and has #1 seed and lose to 8th seed

Duncan, Duncan, Duncan? did you say Duncan :lol:lol:lol

We don't even had to go the '06 Finals to see how great Wade was. He blasted Detroit, you know, the team Kobe shot 38% and went 3-23 from 3 against.

Yep. Dirk was better during the regular season. Led the league in PER, which you know, considers ALL the stats and not just your beloved PPG.

As for Duncan, it's hard to compare a full playoff run that resulted in a championship against someone who didn't get out of the first round. So let's see how both players did against the no-defense playing Suns.

Duncan: 26.8PPG, 13.6RPG, 1.1APG, 4.1BPG on 57% shooting.

Bryant: 32.8PPG, 5.2RPG, 4.4APG, 1.0SPG on 46% shooting.

Give me Duncan's line any day of the fuckin' week.

[Giuseppe]

^Kevin

[midnightpulp]

that was about what he was averaging in the reg season so he would keep that up, but his team was horrid so he couldnt go nowhere

Duncan against that same Suns team.

26.8PPG, 13.6RPG, 1.1APG, 4.1BPG on 57% shooting >> Kobe's stats.

[Koolaid_Man]

We don't even had to go the '06 Finals to see how great Wade was. He blasted Detroit, you know, the team Kobe shot 38% and went 3-23 from 3 against.

Yep. Dirk was better during the regular season. Led the league in PER, which you know, considers ALL the stats and not just your beloved PPG.

As for Duncan, it's hard to compare a full playoff run that resulted in a championship against someone who didn't get out of the first round. So let's see how both players did against the no-defense playing Suns.

Duncan: 26.8PPG, 13.6RPG, 1.1APG, 4.1BPG on 57% shooting.

Bryant: 32.8PPG, 5.2RPG, 4.4APG, 1.0SPG on 46% shooting.

Give me Duncan's line any day of the fuckin' week.


Mid all that matters at this day and hour is

Kobe 5 tired old shit bag 4

Kobe 5 Dirk 1

that's all that matters right there....

[dbreiden83080]

LOL


Yeah for about 5...

[midnightpulp]

“I watch all the teams and what they did for LeBron, and [the Heat] still have to go through the Lakers with Kobe Bryant out there, who’s been my favorite player for a long time,’’ said Pacers president Larry Bird. “And I don’t think whatever they do in the East is really going to concern him that much.’’

He should've been more concerned what they were doing in Dallas. :lol

[dbreiden83080]

Duncan in 03 was so far and away the best player in the NBA..

[Deuce Bigalow]

We don't even had to go the '06 Finals to see how great Wade was. He blasted Detroit, you know, the team Kobe shot 38% and went 3-23 from 3 against.

Yep. Dirk was better during the regular season. Led the league in PER, which you know, considers ALL the stats and not just your beloved PPG.

As for Duncan, it's hard to compare a full playoff run that resulted in a championship against someone who didn't get out of the first round. So let's see how both players did against the no-defense playing Suns.

Duncan: 26.8PPG, 13.6RPG, 1.1APG, 4.1BPG on 57% shooting.

Bryant: 32.8PPG, 5.2RPG, 4.4APG, 1.0SPG on 46% shooting.

Give me Duncan's line any day of the fuckin' week.

lol 1 apg
give me Kobe's numbers any day of the week

[Koolaid_Man]

Lakers fans some of you may not know don't get bogged down arguing with midget...no bullshit and joking the guy has OCD...so when he gets into an argument his brain literally gets stuck and he can't move off of it..it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it

[Koolaid_Man]

Magic has 5 rings...and the best money to fight HIV...he's doing it big right now

[Koolaid_Man]

But Timmy is the guy with tongue rings and shit...why does he need that? To suck off a dragon

[midnightpulp]

Lakers fans some of you may not know don't get bogged down arguing with midget...no bullshit and joking the guy has OCD...so when he gets into an argument his brain literally gets stuck and he can't move off of it..it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it it

Says the cat who is compelled to start 3+ threads a day on either Tim Duncan or Kobe Bryant.

Tell you what, I'll refer you to a good therapy group out there in Houston.

[Koolaid_Man]

Duncan couldn't win when faced to faced with Kobe...ok it's Kobe 5 Duncan 2 when faced to faced.

[Koolaid_Man]

OCD'er

[midnightpulp]

lol 1 apg
give me Kobe's numbers any day of the week

Lol at 46% shooting against the no defense playing Phoenix Suns.

13.6RPG and 4.1BPG :wow

Kobe filling up the PPG stat (on a relatively low percentage) and not much else, as usual :tu

[Deuce Bigalow]

“Well the NBA is in great hands but if I had to pick the single greatest player on the planet, I take Kobe Bryant without hesitation.” - Michael Jordan


“Everyone knows Kobe is the best in the game.”
- Mike D’Antoni

http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/clap%20clap%20clap/grand/the_rock_clap_clap_gif.gif

[Koolaid_Man]

Lol at 46% shooting against the no defense playing Phoenix Suns.

13.6RPG and 4.1BPG :wow

Kobe filling up the PPG stat (on a relatively low percentage) and not much else, as usual :tu


33 and 22 mid...33 and 22

[midnightpulp]

Duncan couldn't win when faced to faced with Kobe...ok it's Kobe 5 Duncan 2 when faced to faced.

It's 4 to 2. You know, the same head-to-head ratio Nash (2) and Kobe (1) have against each other. :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

It's 4 to 2. You know, the same head-to-head ratio Nash (2) and Kobe (1) have against each other. :lol


Kobe 5

Steriod Nash 0 :lol

I can do this all day mid....#5 gave me breathing room....:lmao

[midnightpulp]

Kobe 5

Steriod Nash 0 :lol

I can do this all day mid....#5 gave me breathing room....:lmao

But head-to-head, it's:

Nash: 2

Kobe: 1

[Koolaid_Man]

Let me make it easy for you cucks...

Kobe 5

Your Favorite Player 1-4 ( Kareem negates MJ) lol

[Deuce Bigalow]

But head-to-head, it's:

Nash: 2

Kobe: 1

Kobe's 2-2 vs the Suns

[Koolaid_Man]

But head-to-head, it's:

Nash: 2

Kobe: 1

Kobe 5

and Midget needs help

[Koolaid_Man]

Koolaid Vintage

Midget Delusional

[Deuce Bigalow]

whos the midget? lol

[midnightpulp]

Let me make it easy for you cucks...

Kobe 5

Your Favorite Player 1-4 ( Kareem negates MJ) lol

Let me make it easy for you and actually reference something that is achieved individually:

Duncan: 3

Your favorite player: 2

And if your fave is Magic, then it's:

Duncan: 3

Magic: 3

But the tie breaker is Duncan has never been fucked in the ass by a HIV infected penis :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

whos the midget? lol

you don't know...midnightpulp's nick name is midget...we call him midget for short....:lol

[Koolaid_Man]

he comes up intellectually short every time not to mention his dick size...Dok sucked him off last year and told the board about it

[Koolaid_Man]

Let me make it easy for you and actually reference something that is achieved individually:

Duncan: 3

Your favorite player: 2

And if your fave is Magic, then it's:

Duncan: 3

Magic: 3

But the tie breaker is Duncan has never been fucked in the ass by a HIV infected penis :lol


He just sucks big dragon dicks with that sweet tongue piercing...I better stand in line then...

[midnightpulp]

Kobe's 2-2 vs the Suns

He is 1-2 against Steve Nash

How old are you, seriously? Do you actually watch the NBA or just read basketball-reference all day?

[Koolaid_Man]

He is 1-2 against Steve Nash

How old are you, seriously? Do you actually watch the NBA or just read basketball-reference all day?


He has 5 Birdies

Nash has a triple boogey

[Deuce Bigalow]

He is 1-2 against Steve Nash

How old are you, seriously? Do you actually watch the NBA or just read basketball-reference all day?

I like Nash:tu

[Koolaid_Man]

Midget's ass is on fire when he counts to 5...he has to pass up 4 to get to 5

[midnightpulp]

He has 5 Birdies

Nash has a triple boogey

And still, it's:

Nash: 2

Kobe: 1

:lol

[DMC]

Very very simple answer:

Without Tim Duncan, no one give a rats ass about the Spurs and all the Laker trash would never come here to piss and moan about him, and compare him to their guy.

Without Kobe, the Lakers are still one of the greatest teams of all time.

Tim made the Spurs a perennial threat in the West.

Kobe is just another face on the wall of Lakers greats, not even the best Laker.

Tim did for SA what Michael did for Chicago, on a smaller scale.

What did Kobe do? He raped.

[Giuseppe]

And still, it's:

Nash: 2

Kobe: 1

:lol

&

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[Deuce Bigalow]

And still, it's:

Nash: 2

Kobe: 1

:lol

http://fantasysportsleague.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/nashsmellslikethevault.gif


http://www.sportsbookveteran.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Steve-Nash.gif

[HarlemHeat37]

1999: Duncan
2000: Shaq
2001: Shaq
2002: Shaq
2003: Duncan
2004: Garnett
2005: Duncan, by default, ignoring his injuries, nobody else stood out that season
2006: Wade
2007: Kobe
2008: Kobe
2009: Lebron
2010: Lebron
2011: Lebron

Lebron played better than Kobe against common opponents in 2008, 2009 and 2010, but I give Kobe the edge in 2008, his run to the Finals was very impressive..2010 could go either way, with Lebron choking against Boston, and Kobe having a mediocre series(but gets credit for winning the title, obviously)..

2006 could go either way, as well, Kobe was unquestionably the best regular season player that year, but Wade's top 5 Finals performance of all-time gives him the edge IMO..

[Sean Cagney]

YEAH NO DOUBT in 02 and 03........... Move on.

[Deuce Bigalow]

1999: Duncan
2000: Shaq
2001: Shaq
2002: Shaq
2003: Duncan
2004: Garnett
2005: Duncan, by default, ignoring his injuries, nobody else stood out that season
2006: Wade
2007: Kobe
2008: Kobe
2009: Lebron
2010: Lebron
2011: Lebron

Lebron played better than Kobe against common opponents in 2008, 2009 and 2010, but I give Kobe the edge in 2008, his run to the Finals was very impressive..2010 could go either way, with Lebron choking against Boston, and Kobe having a mediocre series(but gets credit for winning the title, obviously)..

http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/lol/grand/7877887211.gif

[Koolaid_Man]

Very very simple answer:

Without Tim Duncan, no one give a rats ass about the Spurs and all the Laker trash would never come here to piss and moan about him, and compare him to their guy.

Without Kobe, the Lakers are still one of the greatest teams of all time.

Tim made the Spurs a perennial threat in the West.

Kobe is just another face on the wall of Lakers greats, not even the best Laker.

Tim did for SA what Michael did for Chicago, on a smaller scale.

What did Kobe do? He raped.

:lmao Greatest Laker Scorer of All-time...but I see you working nappy neck

[Deuce Bigalow]

Very very simple answer:

Without Tim Duncan, no one give a rats ass about the Spurs and all the Laker trash would never come here to piss and moan about him, and compare him to their guy.

Without Kobe, the Lakers are still one of the greatest teams of all time.

Tim made the Spurs a perennial threat in the West.

Kobe is just another face on the wall of Lakers greats, not even the best Laker.

Tim did for SA what Michael did for Chicago, on a smaller scale.

What did Kobe do? He raped.

Los Angeles Lakers franchise records

Bryant holds or shares numerous Lakers franchise records (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Lakers_accomplishments_and_records):


Most seasons played



15 (1996–1997 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996%E2%80%9397_NBA_season) to 2010–2011 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010%E2%80%9311_NBA_season))



Most career regular-season games played



1,103



Most playoff seasons played



14 (1997 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_NBA_Playoffs) - 2004 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_NBA_Playoffs), 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_NBA_Playoffs) - 2011 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NBA_Playoffs))



Most career playoff games played



208



Points



Career: 27,868 (as of April 23, 2011)[52] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-51)[53] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-alltimescorer-52)

Surpassed Jerry West (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_West), the previous holder of the record, on February 1, 2010[53] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-alltimescorer-52)


Career, playoffs: 5,280 (as of May 12, 2011)[54] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-alltimeplayoffs-53)

Surpassed Jerry West, the previous holder of the record, on April 23, 2010[54] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-alltimeplayoffs-53)


Season: 2,832 (2005–06 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005%E2%80%9306_NBA_season))[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-bryanko01-8)
Game: 81 (on January 22, 2006 vs. Toronto Raptors)[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-tor-4)[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-81-Point-Game_Highlights-5)
Half: 55 (2nd half, on January 22, 2006 vs. Toronto Raptors)[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-tor-4)
Quarter: 30 (twice, most recently on November 30, 2006 in 3rd quarter vs. Utah Jazz)[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-tor-4)
Games scoring 60 points or more, career (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_40-plus_point_games_by_Kobe_Bryant): 5 (as of March 22, 2011)[55] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-60ptsgame-54)
Games scoring 50 points or more, career (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_40-plus_point_games_by_Kobe_Bryant): 24 (as of March 22, 2011)[55] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-60ptsgame-54)
Games scoring 50 points or more, season: 10 (2006–07)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-kobe_bio-0)
Games scoring 40 points or more, career (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_40-plus_point_games_by_Kobe_Bryant): 107 (as of March 22, 2011)[53] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-alltimescorer-52)
Games scoring 40 points or more, season: 27 (2005–06)[56] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-55)



Consecutive games of 50 points or more: 4 (March 16–23, 2007)[57] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-fifty-56)

Behind Wilt Chamberlain (7 consecutive games five times in 1961–62)[57] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-fifty-56)


Consecutive games of 40 points or more: 9 (February 6–23, 2003)[58] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-40pts_consecutive-57)

Tied with Michael Jordan (1986–87) and behind Wilt Chamberlain (14 consecutive games twice in 1961–62 and 10 consecutive games in 1962–63)[58] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-40pts_consecutive-57)[59] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-58)





Field goals made and attempted



Career attempts: 21,370 (as of June 18, 2011)[60] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-guide1011-59)[61] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-60)
Career, playoffs: 1,882 (as of May 12, 2011)[62] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-61)
Career attempts, playoffs: 4,198 (as of May 12, 2011)[63] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-62)
Half: 18 (2nd half, on January 22, 2006 vs. Toronto Raptors)[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-tor-4)[64] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-guide103-63)
Half attempts: 28 (tied with Elgin Baylor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elgin_Baylor); on November 17, 2002 at Boston Celtics)[64] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-guide103-63)
Half, playoffs: 12 (tied with Elgin Baylor; on April 20, 2003 at Minnesota Timberwolves (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Timberwolves))[65] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-guide319-64)
Quarter: 11 (twice, most recently on January 22, 2006 vs. Toronto Raptors)[64] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-guide103-63)
Quarter attempts, playoffs: 13 (tied with 3 players; on May 13, 2003 at San Antonio Spurs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Antonio_Spurs))[65] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-guide319-64)



Free throws made and attempted



Career, playoffs: 1,241 (as of June 18, 2011)[66] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-guide1011p-65)[67] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-ftp-66)
Career attempts, playoffs: 1,522 (as of June 18, 2011)[66] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-guide1011p-65)[68] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-ftap-67)
Game: 23 (twice, most recently on January 31, 2006 vs. New York Knicks)[64] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-guide103-63)[69] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-68)
Game, playoffs: 21 (on May 4, 2008 vs. Utah Jazz)[65] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-guide319-64)[70] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-69)
Half: 17 (on January 30, 2001 vs. Cleveland Cavaliers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Cavaliers))[64] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-guide103-63)
Quarter: 14 (on February 27, 2007 vs. Utah Jazz)[64] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-guide103-63)
Quarter, playoffs: 11 (tied with 3 players; on May 8, 1997 vs. Utah Jazz)[65] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-guide319-64)
Consecutive: 62 (January 11–22, 2006)[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-tor-4)[64] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-guide103-63)



Three-point field goals made and attempted



Career: 1,418 (1996–present)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-kobe_bio-0)[64] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-guide103-63)
Career, playoffs: 275 (1996–present)[71] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-guide318-70)
Game: 12 (on January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics)[64] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-guide103-63)[72] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-seattle-71)
Half: 8 (1st half, on March 28, 2003 vs. Washington Wizards)[64] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-guide103-63)[73] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-72)
Consecutive: 9 (on January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics)[72] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-seattle-71)
Career attempts: 4,185 (1996–present)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-kobe_bio-0)[64] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-guide103-63)
Career attempts, playoffs: 822 (1996–present)[36] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-3ppca-35)
Season attempts: 518 (2005–06)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-kobe_bio-0)[64] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-guide103-63)
Game attempts: 18 (on January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics)[64] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-guide103-63)[72] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-seattle-71)



Steals



Half: 6 (tied with 3 players; on February 13, 2006 vs. Utah Jazz)[64] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-guide103-63)
Quarter, playoffs: 3 (five times, tied with 9 players; most recently on June 15, 2008 vs. Boston Celtics)[65] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-guide319-64)



Minutes played



Career: 40,145 (as of June 18, 2011)[60] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-guide1011-59)[74] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-mpc-73)
Career, playoffs: 8,165 (as of June 18, 2011)[66] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant#cite_no te-guide1011p-65)

[Deuce Bigalow]

and to add

Most Championships: 5, tied with Magic and Kareem

[midnightpulp]

Not surprised:

Career attempts: 21,370 (as of June 18, 2011)[60][61]

[Giuseppe]

and to add

Most Championships: 5, tied with Magic and Kareem

It was that 5th one that transcended Bryant. And he knew it.

We all did.

[DMC]

"I think we'll say the same about Duncan someday. Over the past 10 years, he's been overshadowed by Kobe and Shaq, LeBron and Wade, Nash and Kidd, Nowitzki and KG, even C-Webb and Iverson ... and yet, Tim Duncan was better than all of them."

-Bill Simmons

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/070509

[Giuseppe]

"I think we'll say the same about Duncan someday. Over the past 10 years, he's been overshadowed by Kobe and Shaq, LeBron and Wade, Nash and Kidd, Nowitzki and KG, even C-Webb and Iverson ... and yet, Tim Duncan was better than all of them."

-Bill Simmons

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/070509

That's why:::

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

is so apparent.

[Deuce Bigalow]

“Well the NBA is in great hands but if I had to pick the single greatest player on the planet, I take Kobe Bryant without hesitation.” - Michael Jordan

[DMC]

MJ picked Kwame Brown 1st overall.


:lmao

[Deuce Bigalow]

MJ picked Kwame Brown 1st overall.


:lmao

nobody knows how a person in college/high school will pan out in the NBA

[Deuce Bigalow]

:lmao @ Duncan being better than Shaq
what a joke

[DMC]

nobody knows how a person in college/high school will pan out in the NBA
Really? David Robinson/Tim Duncan 1st overall picks by the Spurs.

Kwame Brown, first overall pick by MJ.


MJ GOAT NBA player? No doubt

MJ great judge of talent? No.

[DMC]

:lmao @ Duncan being better than Shaq
what a joke
Duncan has been better than Shaq. Shaq's pinnacle was so narrow that it doesn't really compare to Duncan. Shaq was fucking dominant in the threepeat years. He did ok with Miami in 2006. Didn't do shit after that.

As much oral stimulation as you dick warts give Kobe, how can you even say Shaq was a factor in a single win?

[Deuce Bigalow]

Duncan has been better than Shaq. Shaq's pinnacle was so narrow that it doesn't really compare to Duncan. Shaq was fucking dominate in the threepeat years. He did ok with Miami in 2006. Didn't do shit after that.

As much oral stimulation as you dick warts give Kobe, how can you even say Shaq was a factor in a single win?

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

Shaq's 3 peat playoff stats

31/15/3
30/15/3
29/13/3

Duncan...lol

Shaq >>> Duncan

and who cares what he "did after that"
3 straight championships in A ROW
Shaq retiring after 2002 and he would still be better than Duncan

[DMC]

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

Shaq's 3 peat playoff stats

31/15/3
30/15/3
29/13/3

Duncan...lol

Shaq >>> Duncan

and who cares what he "did after that"
3 straight championships in A ROW
Shaq retiring after 2002 and he would still be better than Duncan

So 3 rings is better than 4 rings with two completely different teams?

Add to it that Shaq had what Laker fan here has constantly stated as the GOAT Kobe Bryant as his side kick, and you want to say that Robinson = Kobe or the Robinson = Shaq?

I will give Shaq the most dominant big in the last 30 years, no problem. Better overall career than Duncan? No. Peat or no peat, rings are what they are. Just ask Culbert.

Tim has been a factor in the game since he started. Shaq has been semi-retired for 4 years.

[midnightpulp]

I got Kobe from 2001 to present. There are plenty of videos of NBA players priasing Kobe the best player in the league, but you will never find a video of players mentioning Duncan as the best.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Naturally.

[Bill_Brasky]

Shaq woulda been >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Duncan with his head on straight. Can't change the past though, Duncan was consistently better on the court.

[Deuce Bigalow]

So 3 rings is better than 4 rings with two completely different teams?

Add to it that Shaq had what Laker fan here has constantly stated as the GOAT Kobe Bryant as his side kick, and you want to say that Robinson = Kobe or the Robinson = Shaq?

I will give Shaq the most dominant big in the last 30 years, no problem. Better overall career than Duncan? No. Peat or no peat, rings are what they are. Just ask Culbert.

its not about teammates, its about what you do on the court!

Shaq
31/15/3
30/15/3
29/13/3
18/10/2

Duncan
25/15/5
24/14/3
23/12/3
22/12/3

its not even close

[Deuce Bigalow]

Shaq woulda been >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Duncan with his head on straight. Can't change the past though, Duncan was consistently better on the court.

:lol:lol:lol

[midnightpulp]

Shaq has a greater legacy than Jim. A back to back. A three peat. Six finals trips. Head to,head he owns Jim.

Nope. 15-15 in the playoffs vs. each other, each tied at 3 in series wins.

Stats:

Duncan: 25.6, 13.0, 3.8, 2.4, 48%

Shaq: 22.4, 12.8, 2.2, 2.8, 52%

But I still take 3 peat Shaq over any version of Duncan. They way he carried the Lakers to those titles was a sight to behold.

[Giuseppe]

But I still take 3 peat Shaq over any version of Duncan.

Poor tired old shit bag Duncan never even repeated once.

[Deuce Bigalow]

My bad, that is Kobe that shits on Jim head to head.

:lol

[LkrFan]

Nope. 15-15 in the playoffs vs. each other, each tied at 3 in series wins.

Stats:

Duncan: 25.6, 13.0, 3.8, 2.4, 48%

Shaq: 22.4, 12.8, 2.2, 2.8, 52%

But I still take 3 peat Shaq over any version of Duncan. They way he carried the Lakers to those titles was a sight to behold.

Did we not go through this already? (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=onealsh01&p2=duncati01)

TD is Kobe and Shaq's beotch. Neal with it.

[midnightpulp]

Did we not go through this already? (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=onealsh01&p2=duncati01)

TD is Kobe and Shaq's beotch. Neal with it.

So you're saying that it took both Kobe and Shaq, two of the best players in the league, to defeat Duncan?

Thanks for finally admitting that Glorified Latrell Spreewell needed Shaq and vice-versa. Breath of fresh air to hear that.

Sorry for calling you a retard. Seems I was off base with that. You just earned a shit load of brownie points for saying something that no Lakers homer has ever been able to admit.

[dbreiden83080]

I got Kobe from 2001 to present

You got Kobe as the best in 03 when Duncan did the following


Won league MVP
Beat Lakers in the playoffs
Won the title and finals MVP... :lol

[Deuce Bigalow]

So you're saying that it took both Kobe and Shaq, two of the best players in the league, to defeat Duncan?

Thanks for finally admitting that Glorified Latrell Spreewell needed Shaq and vice-versa. Breath of fresh air to hear that.

Sorry for calling you a retard. Seems I was off base with that. You just earned a shit load of brownie points for saying something that no Lakers homer has ever been able to admit.

2008 cough
:lol

[LkrFan]

So you're saying that it took both Kobe and Shaq, two of the best players in the league, to defeat Duncan?

Thanks for finally admitting that Glorified Latrell Spreewell needed Shaq and vice-versa. Breath of fresh air to hear that.

Sorry for calling you a retard. Seems I was off base with that. You just earned a shit load of brownie points for saying something that no Lakers homer has ever been able to admit.

Answer Deuce's post asswipe

[midnightpulp]

2008 cough
:lol

Duncan was 32 and past his prime while Kobe was at his peak. But during the early and mid-2000s, when Duncan was prime, it took both Kobe and Shaq.

[dbreiden83080]

Duncan was 32 and past his prime while Kobe was at his peak. But during the early and mid-2000s, when Duncan was prime, it took both Kobe and Shaq.

2003 with Kobe and Shaq and all Duncan had was a wild Manu and a young mediocre Tony and Lakers still lost.

[LkrFan]

Duncan was 32 and past his prime while Kobe was at his peak. But during the early and mid-2000s, when Duncan was prime, it took both Kobe and Shaq.

...or you could say in 2008, it took Pau to team up with Kobe to finally send TD to the tree of woe considering he never won a playoff game until then. Then Kobe won him two rings (and counting). :toast

[Deuce Bigalow]

Duncan was 32 and past his prime while Kobe was at his peak. But during the early and mid-2000s, when Duncan was prime, it took both Kobe and Shaq.

lol Kobe came in the league before Duncan

[Deuce Bigalow]

2003 with Kobe and Shaq and all Duncan had was a wild Manu and a young mediocre Tony and Lakers still lost.

they just won 3 straight championships

[LkrFan]

2003 with Kobe and Shaq and all Duncan had was a wild Manu and a young mediocre Tony and Lakers still lost.

The last time the Lakers will ever face the Spurs in the playoffs is 2008. Unless the Spurs squeak into the 8th seed. The rivalry is done.

[midnightpulp]

...or you could say in 2008, it took Pau to team up with Kobe to finally send TD to the tree of woe considering he never won a playoff game until then. Then Kobe won him two rings (and counting). :toast

But without Pau or Shaq, Kobe never won a playoff series and even missed the playoffs one year. That's a two way relationship. Sometimes Kobe is the woman, sometimes it's Pau. This year, they both chose to be women. Pau with his emotional problems and Kobe with his stellar 22, 3, 3.

[midnightpulp]

they just won 3 straight championships

Excuses, excuses.

Your dumbass really loves the "fatigue" excuse, doesn't it?

Kill your fuckin' self.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Excuses, excuses.

Your dumbass really loves the "fatigue" excuse, doesn't it?

Kill your fuckin' self.

:lobt::lobt::lobt:
in a row

they get rested, and look what happened the next year, you guys cried again by losing to LA another time

[dbreiden83080]

they just won 3 straight championships

And Duncan went on to win 3 in 5 years..

[LkrFan]

But without Pau or Shaq, Kobe never won a playoff series and even missed the playoffs one year. That's a two way relationship. Sometimes Kobe is the woman, sometimes it's Pau. This year, they both chose to be women. Pau with his emotional problems and Kobe with his stellar 22, 3, 3.

Since Pau joined the Lakers:

Pau: 2
TOSB: 0

2011 was an odd year! :downspin:

[midnightpulp]

:lobt::lobt::lobt:
in a row

they get rested, and look what happened the next year, you guys cried again by losing to LA another time

Yeah, acquiring two all star players had nothing to with it.

Kill your fuckin self.

[midnightpulp]

Deuce's reply: Malone wasn't an all star though.

[Deuce Bigalow]

lol, the funny thing is that a 40 year old malone was better than duncan last year

[Deuce Bigalow]

lol how old were they?

[midnightpulp]

lol how old were they?

How good were they?

Payton: 20ppg the year before.

Malone: 20ppg the year before.

Kill your fuckin self.

[Deuce Bigalow]

how old were they?

[midnightpulp]

how old were they?

How good were they?

Kill your fuckin self.

[Deuce Bigalow]

How good were they?

Kill your fuckin self.

you tell me

[Deuce Bigalow]

40 and 35
lol thats the ages

[midnightpulp]

40 and 35
lol thats the ages

Both players capable of 20 points any given night.

lol thats how good they are.

Kill your fuckin self.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Both players capable of 20 points any given night.

lol thats how good they are.

Kill your fuckin self.

too bad they were old and one of them was injured

[midnightpulp]

too bad they were old and one of them was injured

Too bad he wasn't injured against the Spurs.

Kill your fuckin self.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Too bad he wasn't injured against the Spurs.

Kill your fuckin self.

who cares

Lakers won
u mad

[midnightpulp]

who cares

Lakers won
u mad

Thanks for conceding the point.

Now...

Kill your fuckin self.

[LkrFan]

Too bad he wasn't injured against the Spurs.

Kill your fuckin self.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQDbrWU2U55_IE1Ih0bqG0zAncRWzS_v BFT4TzFK8Pnfn8p7IwMyzSci2xO

:lol

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQDbrWU2U55_IE1Ih0bqG0zAncRWzS_v BFT4TzFK8Pnfn8p7IwMyzSci2xO

:lol

:lmao

[midnightpulp]

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQDbrWU2U55_IE1Ih0bqG0zAncRWzS_v BFT4TzFK8Pnfn8p7IwMyzSci2xO

:lol

Old and not funny.

Get a gun from the armory wherever your grunt ass is stationed, fly to Deuce's house, hand him the gun, instruct him to point it at you and pull the trigger.

Deuce, as Lkrfan lays there a twitching, bloody mess, put the gun in your mouth and...

Kill your fuckin self.

[Deuce Bigalow]

for real, why are you so mad?

[midnightpulp]

for real, why are you so mad?

Once you get more familiar with this forum and my posting style, you'll realize I'm not mad.

Although I prefer you not to get more familiar with this forum because that would mean you didn't...

Kill your fuckin' self.

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://spurstalk.com/forums/image.php?u=5430&dateline=1314662103
"Im a mad dumb fuck"

[midnightpulp]

Alright, dudes. Gotta do.

Deuce, make sure to kill your fuckin' self. That's your homework assignment for tonight. You'll be graded on how much blood and brain matter you splatter on the walls. The more visceral way your meaningless life comes to an end, the higher the grade.

[Leetonidas]

lol at all these faggots attempting to live vicariously through Kobe Bryant.

That being said Duncan was easily the best player in the NBA in 2002 and 2003. 2004 was Garnett, 2005 was probably Timmy again but this one's debatable, 2006 I take Kobe, 2007 Dirk, 2008 CP3/Kobe, 2009-2010 is Bron and last season was Dirk by a mile.

[TE]

2003 and 2004 imhomfo

[Nathan89]

Mid destroying Lakerfans.

[ElNono]

http://spurstalk.com/forums/image.php?u=26995&dateline=1313280731
"Im a douche bogaboo"

[joshdaboss]

Better question is: Was Kobe?

99-03 - Shaq or Duncan

04 - Garnett

05 - Duncan

06 - Wade

07 - Dirk in the reg, Duncan in the playoffs.

08 to 10 - Lebron

11 - Dirk

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[joshdaboss]

2006-2008, its not even a question that Kobe was the best player in the league those 3 years
2009-2010, is close, but give me the back to back Finals MVP Champion

I'll just have to assume you're a troll because of your username, but LeBron shits all over Kobe. Give me any statistic that Kobe is better in. Maybe like... what... free throw percentage? LOL

[mavs>spurs]

Td was da best playa that season 05 cos the potential candidates were all suckin bad imho, plus the spurs had the best W/L record in the regular season. the spurs were doing great that season as always while other teams in general were dormant, that was a true achievement but not a hard-earned one imho just like dream's two rings 94' and 95'

[ChuckD]

Duncan in 03 was so far and away the best player in the NBA..

This. He was ridiculous, and there wasn't even anyone in his rear-view mirror.

[Leetonidas]

I'd wager to say 2004 is debatable between Timmy and KG because Tim anchored the best defensive team in league history as far as OPPG goes iirc

[Leetonidas]

And that's with Hedo's choking faggot ass in the starting lineup :wow

or maybe he came off the bench, I can't remember too well. But lol Ron Mercer got big minutes back then too :lmao

[Spur_Fanatic]

Kobe from 2005-2011

:lmao:downspin::rollin:lol:p::spin:blah:lmao