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HarlemHeat37
09-27-2011, 10:21 PM
How would you rank all 32 starting QBs?..

IMO,

1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Tom Brady
3. Drew Brees
4. Phil Rivers

5. Ben Rapelisberger
6. Michael Vick

7. Jay Cutler
8. Matt Stafford
9. Matt Ryan
10. Tony Romo
11. Ryan Fitzpatrick
12. Joe Flacco
13. Matt Schaub
14. Eli Manning

15. Josh Freeman
16. Cam Newton
17. Mark Sanchez
18. Kevin Kolb
19. Matt Hasselbeck

20. Kyle Orton
21. Sam Bradford
22. Rex Grossman
23. Colt McCoy

24. Andy Dalton
25. Jason Campbell
26. Alex Smith
27. Donovan McNabb

28. Chad Henne
29. Matt Cassel
30. Blaine Gabbert(sp?)
31. Tavaris Jackson
32. Kerry Collins

Most overrated: Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco
Most underrated: Jay Cutler

DUNCANownsKOBE
09-27-2011, 10:41 PM
I'd rank Tarnigvis Jackson as the lowest

DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
09-27-2011, 11:35 PM
As much as I don't like Flacco, he's been better than Ryan.

Ryan is indeed the most overrated QB in the league. I think he plateaued his rookie year and Falcon fans can look forward to a plethora of 7 yard passes.

Oh, and not winning cock and balls away from the Georgia Dome.

TIMMYtoZO
09-27-2011, 11:42 PM
How would you rank all 32 starting QBs?..

IMO,

1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Tom Brady
3. Drew Brees
4. Phil Rivers

5. Ben Rapelisberger
6. Michael Vick

7. Jay Cutler
8. Matt Stafford
9. Matt Ryan
10. Tony Romo
11. Ryan Fitzpatrick
12. Joe Flacco
13. Matt Schaub
14. Eli Manning

15. Josh Freeman
16. Cam Newton
17. Mark Sanchez
18. Kevin Kolb
19. Matt Hasselbeck

20. Kyle Orton
21. Sam Bradford
22. Rex Grossman
23. Colt McCoy

24. Andy Dalton
25. Jason Campbell
26. Alex Smith
27. Donovan McNabb

28. Chad Henne
29. Matt Cassel
30. Blaine Gabbert(sp?)
31. Tavaris Jackson
32. Kerry Collins

Most overrated: Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco
Most underrated: Jay Cutler

Eli Manning at 14???????? Dude! He is the 2nd best qb in the NFL for fucks sake! Schaub is a stat padding whore who is nothing but a loser. Flacco,Matt "no playoff win" Ryan? Fitzpatrick/Stafford? These guys haven't even made the playoffs! Cutler?????????:lmao:lmao Vick?:lmao:lmao:lmao Big Ben??:lmao:lmao:lmao Rivers,Brees, and Rodgers are all behind Eli. I will put Brady at #1 (Eli will be #1 if he keeps playing like he did Sunday @ Philly)

Kai
09-28-2011, 01:37 AM
Cutler, Romo too high. Freeman too low.

Warlord23
09-28-2011, 03:26 AM
So far this year, Roethlisberger has no business being ahead of Vick, Schaub, Stafford, Fitzpatrick and Ryan on any list ... and I say this as a Steelers fan. He's racking up decent yardage, but turning it over too frequently.

benefactor
09-28-2011, 05:35 AM
Eli Manning at 14???????? Dude! He is the 2nd best qb in the NFL for fucks sake! Schaub is a stat padding whore who is nothing but a loser. Flacco,Matt "no playoff win" Ryan? Fitzpatrick/Stafford? These guys haven't even made the playoffs! Cutler?????????:lmao:lmao Vick?:lmao:lmao:lmao Big Ben??:lmao:lmao:lmao Rivers,Brees, and Rodgers are all behind Eli. I will put Brady at #1 (Eli will be #1 if he keeps playing like he did Sunday @ Philly)
Harlem...casting out the line...hooking the big one.

DBryant88
09-28-2011, 07:19 AM
how can you say Ryan or Flacco is overrated? Matty Ice is unstoppable in the Georgia Dome and Flacco has led his team to the AFC Championship game twice in 3 seasons. Cutler is the grossly overrated one

DBryant88
09-28-2011, 07:23 AM
Eli Manning at 14???????? Dude! He is the 2nd best qb in the NFL for fucks sake! Schaub is a stat padding whore who is nothing but a loser. Flacco,Matt "no playoff win" Ryan? Fitzpatrick/Stafford? These guys haven't even made the playoffs! Cutler?????????:lmao:lmao Vick?:lmao:lmao:lmao Big Ben??:lmao:lmao:lmao Rivers,Brees, and Rodgers are all behind Eli. I will put Brady at #1 (Eli will be #1 if he keeps playing like he did Sunday @ Philly)

:vomit:

DUNCANownsKOBE
09-28-2011, 08:20 AM
how can you say Ryan or Flacco is overrated? Matty Ice is unstoppable in the Georgia Dome and Flacco has led his team to the AFC Championship game twice in 3 seasons. Cutler is the grossly overrated one
Flacco has been to the AFCCG once, as has Cutler. Flacco was wildly overrated after his rookie year because people always assume good + young = great but Flacco was more or less exposed after last season.

Matt Ryan is still an overrated game manager. 0-2 in the playoffs and puts up pedestrian stats during the regular season on a run first team.

Pelicans78
09-28-2011, 10:07 AM
Brady
Rodgers
Brees

Roethlisberger
Rivers
Manning
Romo
Vick

Freeman
Cutler
Ryan
Flacco

Stafford (supreme talent, needs to prove himself more)
Fitzpatrick
Kolb
Cassell
Sanchez
Campbell
McNabb
Orton
McCoy
Henne
Dalton
Newton
Smith
Jackson
Gabbert

stretch
09-28-2011, 10:25 AM
Flacco has been to the AFCCG once, as has Cutler. Flacco was wildly overrated after his rookie year because people always assume good + young = great but Flacco was more or less exposed after last season.

Matt Ryan is still an overrated game manager. 0-2 in the playoffs and puts up pedestrian stats during the regular season on a run first team.

+1

Ryan has never been that impressive to me. He doesnt seem to do anything that a guy like Jason Cambell or Matt Hasselbeck can't do, he just has more talent around him.

Flacco is pretty much the same, just with a little less offensive talent help, but more defensive help than Ryan. Both are just above average QBs IMO.

DBryant88
09-28-2011, 10:30 AM
Flacco has been to the AFCCG once, as has Cutler. Flacco was wildly overrated after his rookie year because people always assume good + young = great but Flacco was more or less exposed after last season.

Matt Ryan is still an overrated game manager. 0-2 in the playoffs and puts up pedestrian stats during the regular season on a run first team.

my bad. i thought last year was the AFCCG but i was incorrect

DeadlyDynasty
09-28-2011, 10:38 AM
Flacco is frustrating as hell to watch b/c he's got a cannon for an arm and he's tough in the pocket, but he still holds onto the ball way too long and makes questionable decisions. That team is nasty, and if he can just put together one mistake-free postseason like Eli did then there's no way the Ravens don't win a SB--that team is fucking stacked.

pawe
09-28-2011, 10:48 AM
Freeman and Fitzpatrick should be higher on the list.

Remember when Matt Cassel was boss and he was going to replace Brady. :(

DeadlyDynasty
09-28-2011, 04:44 PM
Freeman and Fitzpatrick should be higher on the list.

Remember when Matt Cassel was boss and he was going to replace Brady. :(

It's hard to put Fitz above any of those names ahead of him right now--just because of such a limited sample size of good games. He's also 28 already too, so he's got a lot of catching up to do. I got faith in the Fitz, though.

Freeman, OTOH, is definitely a star in the making...the guy takes care of the ball and has already proven to be a clutch performer in just over a season's worth of starts. He's also an articulate speaker, which separates him from other QB's like him.

Huey Freeman
09-28-2011, 05:06 PM
How would you rank all 32 starting QBs?..

IMO,

1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Tom Brady
3. Drew Brees
4. Phil Rivers

5. Ben Rapelisberger
6. Michael Vick

7. Jay Cutler
8. Matt Stafford
9. Matt Ryan
10. Tony Romo
11. Ryan Fitzpatrick
12. Joe Flacco
13. Matt Schaub
14. Eli Manning

15. Josh Freeman
16. Cam Newton
17. Mark Sanchez
18. Kevin Kolb
19. Matt Hasselbeck

20. Kyle Orton
21. Sam Bradford
22. Rex Grossman
23. Colt McCoy

24. Andy Dalton
25. Jason Campbell
26. Alex Smith
27. Donovan McNabb

28. Chad Henne
29. Matt Cassel
30. Blaine Gabbert(sp?)
31. Tavaris Jackson
32. Kerry Collins

Most overrated: Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco
Most underrated: Jay Cutler



Your first 4 are flawless
You got Jay Cutler way to high. I don't know why you think he is underrated.
I'd take a healthy Romo over Stafford, but maybe not Ryan
We need to see more of Ryan Fitzpatrick before putting him over the likes of Eli Manning and Matt Schaub
Cam Newton is doing pretty good right now, but he not a better QB than Sam Bradford or Matt Hasselbeck. Not yet anyway, but he will be eventually.

Spursfan092120
09-28-2011, 09:32 PM
Cutler, Romo too high. Freeman too low.

So you think Stafford and Fitzpatrick are better than Romo? Just curious.

Kai
09-28-2011, 11:01 PM
So you think Stafford and Fitzpatrick are better than Romo? Just curious.

With the way they've been playing, yes. Romo is too Jekyll and Hide to be put that high. Just doesn't have it in the clutch. The jury is still out on Stafford and Fitz though, tbh.

Borosai
09-29-2011, 01:01 AM
Did anyone see Fitzgiggles' final response to Kornheiser on PTI a few days ago?

That makes him number one.

tlongII
09-29-2011, 09:16 AM
I guess you're leaving Peyton out because he's injured. If he's healthy he's #1. It's obvious just by watching the Colts this year.

pawe
09-29-2011, 10:17 AM
I guess you're leaving Peyton out because he's injured. If he's healthy he's #1. It's obvious just by watching the Colts this year.

If your team tailored the offense to your liking, of course they will stink when you sit.

dirk4mvp
09-29-2011, 02:33 PM
But see this is where the without Peyton they suck argument is skewed. They played well enough to beat the Steelers without him. Replace Collins and Painter with a qb that actually should be in the NFL and they win easily last Sunday.

stretch
09-29-2011, 03:14 PM
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=184544

JoeTait75
09-29-2011, 04:54 PM
They played well enough to beat the Steelers without him.

Ah... but they didn't.

You can "almost" beat a good team and still suck. Bad teams almost win all the time. The 4-12 Browns of 2004 took the Super Bowl Eagles to overtime.

Bad teams just find ways to lose one way or another.

dirk4mvp
09-29-2011, 05:12 PM
That's not what I was getting at.

Monostradamus
09-29-2011, 05:17 PM
lol colts suck

tbh dets what you get when you let your narcissist QB have more power than anybody on the coaching staff.

Greg Oden
09-29-2011, 05:29 PM
lol fitzpatrick player of the month

dirk4mvp
09-29-2011, 05:32 PM
lol colts suck

tbh dets what you get when you let your narcissist QB have more power than anybody on the coaching staff.

How dare anyone know more about football than the legendary Jim Caldwell.

Monostradamus
09-29-2011, 05:35 PM
lol greg oden. did you blow out your knee again posting that message? :lmao

Monostradamus
09-29-2011, 05:36 PM
How dare anyone know more about football than the legendary Jim Caldwell.

tbh Houston Nutt to Indy this offseason has a nice ring to it. After all he did manage to get halfway decent performances out of one of the shittier QB's the world has seen.

lol snead

dirk4mvp
09-29-2011, 05:41 PM
tbh Houston Nutt to Indy this offseason has a nice ring to it. After all he did manage to get halfway decent performances out of one of the shittier QB's the world has seen.



Agreed. The Nutter really showed his stuff by hiding how shit of a football player Matt Jones really was.

Monostradamus
09-29-2011, 05:48 PM
Agreed. The Nutter really showed his stuff by hiding how shit of a football player Matt Jones really was.

lol 1st round draft pick.
lol snead

dirk4mvp
09-29-2011, 05:49 PM
lol crackhead
lol :cry JDR's doghouse

Monostradamus
09-29-2011, 05:50 PM
lol cut by the Tampa Bay Storm

Monostradamus
09-29-2011, 05:52 PM
lol swine flu

dirk4mvp
09-29-2011, 05:53 PM
lol too coked up to play football

DUNCANownsKOBE
09-29-2011, 05:56 PM
crofl Arkansas fans being obsessed with Houston Nutt

Monostradamus
09-29-2011, 05:59 PM
lol too coked up to play football

lol too shitty of a football player to play football

Monostradamus
09-29-2011, 06:01 PM
crofl Arkansas fans being obsessed with Houston Nutt

:lol tbh non t-shirts fans are even worse. Everybody in Fayetteville still bitches about how Nutt cost them a shot at a NC cuz he was so mean to Mitch Mustain :cry

DUNCANownsKOBE
09-29-2011, 06:03 PM
Crofl there's also Brutalis who claims that Mallett transferred to Arkansas because he wanted to go there all along and only didn't because of Nutt, NOT because Michigan's new coach had an offense Mallett was absolutely useless in :lol

Blake
09-30-2011, 10:27 AM
1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Tom Brady
3. Drew Brees
4. Mike Vick
5. Ben Rapelisberger
6. Phil Rivers
7. Vince Young
8. Matt Stafford
9. Matt Ryan
10. Chad Henne