Who Is/Was The Worst Spur Of All Time And Why?

[Calispursfan11]

In one of the best seasons of his career, Jack Haley averaged 2.4 ppg, 0.9 rbs in 31 games for the Spurs in 1994-1995. The following year, he earned a championship ring with the Bulls by playing one regular season game and sitting out the entire playoff run. He was also known as Rodman's babysitter, a title he abhored, contending that his spot on the team was due to legit talent.

It's gotta be Jack!

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[Giuseppe]

Neal:::he raped and then was made a millionaire by Pop after he picked him up off a police blotter.

[joshdaboss]

Someone who sticks out for me is probably Nick Van Exel. He had way too prominent of a role for the type of player he was at that stage in his career.

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

Neal:::he raped and then was made a millionaire by Pop after he picked him up off a police blotter.

LOL Steve Blake.

[hsxvvd]

Dennis Rodman.

Why? He wasted 2 years of Robinson's prime. Turned the team into a circus show. Refused to guard Horry in the playoffs, costing us the Houston series and ultimately the 94-95 title as we would have wiped the floor with Orlando.

[Calispursfan11]

Neal:::he raped and then was made a millionaire by Pop after he picked him up off a police blotter.

Gary Neal currently makes less than a million per year. Taking into account NBA lifestyle costs, that puts him at about the net income equivalent of the gross income of a manager at a fast food restaurant.

:toast

[Giuseppe]

Dennis Rodman.

Why? He wasted 2 years of Robinson's prime. Turned the team into a circus show. Refused to guard Horry in the playoffs, costing us the Houston series and ultimately the 94-95 title as we would have wiped the floor with Orlando.

Robinson didn't have a prime. Robinson had Duncan.

[FromWayDowntown]

Robinson didn't have a prime.

Neither did Elgin Baylor, I guess -- and he even had Jerry West with him for most of his career.

[Capt Bringdown]

Someone who sticks out for me is probably Nick Van Exel. He had way too prominent of a role for the type of player he was at that stage in his career.

Van Exel was Terry Porter redux.

Robinson had to put up with a host of turds. Not one sticks out, as there was so many.

On second thought, the memory of Rod Strickland does kinda get the blood boiling again...

[Nathan89]

Hedo Turkoglu.

Regular Season: .406fg%, .419 3ptfg%
Post Season: .321fg%, .333 3ptfg%

[wildbill2u]

I think you have to make a distinction between the players who had less talent and those who wasted their talent here. If a guy was a marginal player but tried to play to his ability and didn't mess up as a SA citizen I wouldn't denigrate him by putting him on a worst Spur list.

On the other hand, Rodman and Strickland hated it here and acted like it both on the court and off the court.

[Sigz]

Ginger boy, with the t-rex arms.

[DMX7]

Van Exel was Terry Porter redux.

Robinson had to put up with a host of turds. Not one sticks out, as there was so many.

On second thought, the memory of Rod Strickland does kinda get the blood boiling again...

Porter was better than Van Exel.

[slick'81]

in terms of playoff success the ultimate floor spreader-http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Ron+Artest+Matt+Bonner+San+Antonio+Spurs+v+Aeb49SV AcLBl.jpg

[FkLA]

Hedo Turkoglu.

Regular Season: .406fg%, .419 3ptfg%
Post Season: .321fg%, .333 3ptfg%

Hedo actually had a really good second half of the season tbh. Nigga shot like over 50%+ from three-point range during that stretch if Im not mistaken. His stroke looked so sweet, he could shoot it feet from behind the 3-line, and it seemed like it went in just about every time. Of course all that fell apart in the playoffs. :lol

I would say this guy though, he seemed like he could barely even get down the court when he played. I could never figure out why he ever made an NBA roster:

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[will_spurs]

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This guy has better NBA stats than College stats... I'm sure there's worse.

[baseline bum]

Van Exel was Terry Porter redux.

Robinson had to put up with a host of turds. Not one sticks out, as there was so many.

On second thought, the memory of Rod Strickland does kinda get the blood boiling again...

Terry Porter was great in his original role off the bench, but was way too old to be starting. Van Exel's knees were done by the time he got to SA, so there's no comparison. If I had to pick a top 5, containing only players who actually played, it would be

1. Vinny Del Negro - Red McCombs, you suck for letting Strickland walk and replacing him with a worthless soft Euro. Not paying Strickland was probably the thing that wrecked Robinson's prime years more than anything. Man, the Spurs could run like hell back when Rocket Rod was playing the point. Instead we got a guy who had no point guard skills and could drop 20 on Atlanta in February but nothing in a game that meant much. Watching Del Negro on Drexler was like pulling the hairs out your nut sack with duct tape.

2. Steve Smith - LOL @ him threatening to hold out when Pop wouldn't give him an extension to his massively bloated $10 million a year salary. Just no hustle whatsoever from this guy. I understand not being able to move laterally when you have bad knees, but dive for a loose ball every once in a while in the playoffs when you're making 8 figures.

3. Samaki Walker - Straight up worthless. Dumbest player in franchise history and one of the softest on top of that. Then that loser went and called Robinson soft on LA radio? Nothing defines soft like taking the cortisone shot and guarding Shaq two days after you couldn't walk, I guess. Fuck Walker and the ring he got piggybacking Shaq.

4. Paul Pressey - Can you believe the Spurs gave up Frank Brickowski for this guy? Pressey played well with Cummings in Milwaukee, but man he sucked in SA. About the only good thing you can say about Pressey is that it was funny watching him hold Pop back from the refs after every bad call.

5. Matt Bonner - Power forwards who can't rebound nor defend should never be getting 20 minutes a night. Bonner has to be Popovich's biggest mistake. The Spurs become defensive turnstiles any time he is on the floor.

[Calispursfan11]

Porter was better than Van Exel.

Magua (Troll from the "who is a better leader" thread) would argue that D-Rob made his PGs worse by bashing them over the head with his bible, thereby reducing their floor awareness and turning them into scrubs.

[Calispursfan11]

in terms of playoff success the ultimate floor spreader-http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Ron+Artest+Matt+Bonner+San+Antonio+Spurs+v+Aeb49SV AcLBl.jpg

Boner does have short arms - I didn't realize that.

[Calispursfan11]

This guy has better NBA stats than College stats... I'm sure there's worse.

Maybe you never saw him play. He makes the Red Rocket look like Carmelo Anthony in comparison. Think Mark Madsen but worse and even more awkward looking on the court.

[Calispursfan11]

Hedo actually had a really good second half of the season tbh. Nigga shot like over 50%+ from three-point range during that stretch if Im not mistaken. His stroke looked so sweet, he could shoot it feet from behind the 3-line, and it seemed like it went in just about every time. Of course all that fell apart in the playoffs. :lol

I would say this guy though, he seemed like he could barely even get down the court when he played. I could never figure out why he ever made an NBA roster:

http://foreverdunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/1_215457_1.jpeg

Is that Bateer?

[Calispursfan11]

Terry Porter was great in his original role off the bench, but was way too old to be starting. Van Exel's knees were done by the time he got to SA, so there's no comparison. If I had to pick a top 5, containing only players who actually played, it would be

1. Vinny Del Negro - Red McCombs, you suck for letting Strickland walk and replacing him with a worthless soft Euro. Not paying Strickland was probably the thing that wrecked Robinson's prime years more than anything. Man, the Spurs could run like hell back when Rocket Rod was playing the point. Instead we got a guy who had no point guard skills and could drop 20 on Atlanta in February but nothing in a game that meant much. Watching Del Negro on Drexler was like pulling the hairs out your nut sack with duct tape.

2. Steve Smith - LOL @ him threatening to hold out when Pop wouldn't give him an extension to his massively bloated $10 million a year salary. Just no hustle whatsoever from this guy. I understand not being able to move laterally when you have bad knees, but dive for a loose ball every once in a while in the playoffs when you're making 8 figures.

3. Samaki Walker - Straight up worthless. Dumbest player in franchise history and one of the softest on top of that. Then that loser went and called Robinson soft on LA radio? Nothing defines soft like taking the cortisone shot and guarding Shaq two days after you couldn't walk, I guess. Fuck Walker and the ring he got piggybacking Shaq.

4. Paul Pressey - Can you believe the Spurs gave up Frank Brickowski for this guy? Pressey played well with Cummings in Milwaukee, but man he sucked in SA. About the only good thing you can say about Pressey is that it was funny watching him hold Pop back from the refs after every bad call.

5. Matt Bonner - Power forwards who can't rebound nor defend should never be getting 20 minutes a night. Bonner has to be Popovich's biggest mistake. The Spurs become defensive turnstiles any time he is on the floor.

Great post. Agree wholeheartedly with your anaysis and thanks for reminding me of Samaki. What a scrub. I could barely watch him on the Court it was so bad.

[mando6599]

Dwayne Schintzus, if for nothing else, his mullet.

[Sean Cagney]

in terms of playoff success the ultimate floor spreader-http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Ron+Artest+Matt+Bonner+San+Antonio+Spurs+v+Aeb49SV AcLBl.jpg

CO SIGN! Not to mention Scola was basically not signed for this bum! Thats a double whammy :(

[lefty]

:lol

Oh I see how this works

Del Negro sucked so he was a soft Euro, but if he was a Superstar, he would have been a great American player

Bah
:lol

[baseline bum]

Fine... he was a soft faggot instead of soft Euro.

[lefty]

Fine... he was a soft faggot instead of soft Euro.

:lol

[Calispursfan11]

Del Negro lacked a three point shot and couldn't dribble that well as I recall. It always seemed like he was about to turn the ball over and was scary to watch. But I don't believe he falls in the worst of all-time bracket.

[Giuseppe]

Dwayne Schintzus, if for nothing else, his mullet.

But, his girlfriend was drop dead gorgeous.

[smackdaddy11]

Alfrederick Hughes is in the house.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hugheri01.html

[watertorture]

I agree: Rodman.

To me, you have to consider their--
1. contributions on the floor (a big negative for laying on he floor off the court with shoes off and towel on head),
2. as well as the money spent on them (a larger contract keeps other good players off the team),
3. and their effect on team synergy.

He fits all three.

[TimDunkem]

I would say this guy though, he seemed like he could barely even get down the court when he played. I could never figure out why he ever made an NBA roster:

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That's something I had always wanted to know as well...

[Slydragon]

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[bighappy]

their has been to many to name them all especially during the David R. era. but lloyd daniel, jr reid,negele knight, greg sutton. tom copa,tony massenbrug,sean higgins. so many what a sad waste david prime years were

[dbestpro]

For me it is who had the greatest negative impact. Without a doubt it has to be Bonner with Mason a close second for their overall performances in the playoffs. Bringing up the rear is Charles Smith, the PF from the Knicks who bombed and of course the bomb of all Spur draft picks, Alfredrick Hughes.

[baseline bum]

For me it is who had the greatest negative impact. Without a doubt it has to be Bonner with Mason a close second for their overall performances in the playoffs. Bringing up the rear is Charles Smith, the PF from the Knicks who bombed and of course the bomb of all Spur draft picks, Alfredrick Hughes.

:lol

I never get tired of seeing this clip.

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Could be worse though; the Spurs could have given away a young Mark Jackson for his ass like New York did. LOL 90s Knicks... unbelievable that they did that trade like 3 years after giving away Rod Strickland for a finished Mo Cheeks. Amazing to have two of the top point guards of the 90s and come out of it with a finished Cheeks, a long past his prime Derek Harper and Charlie Motherfucking Ward. :rollin

[jjktkk]

If 3rd string ballboys count as being a Spur, I would have to go with Fabbs.

[Fabbs]

The Benedict Arnold owner who gifted the Lakers Michelle Thompson for center/forward Frank Brickowski, center Pétur Guðmundsson and a 1990 second-round draft choice and cash.

February 1987

[Dex]

That's something I had always wanted to know as well...

I remember the final game of that season, the whole bench went crazy because he actually scored a basket. :wow

[baseline bum]

The Benedict Arnold owner who gifted the Lakers Michelle Thompson for center/forward Frank Brickowski, center Pétur Guðmundsson and a 1990 second-round draft choice and cash.

February 1987

You mean the one who went out and got the Spurs Gilmore when they desperately needed a bigman? The one who went out and got Mike Mitchell? Drossos was a great owner for the team; McCombs is the one who was cheap and who doomed the Spurs to mediocrity despite having an all-time great in his prime. Thompson was really bad in his time in San Antonio and the Spurs had to move him. It ended up being a mutually beneficial trade as he was a great spark off the bench for LA while Brick ended up being a very solid role-player for the Spurs.

[Mitch Cumsteen]

I can't believe this thread has gone on as long as it has without mentioning Richard Jefferson. It's RJ and it's not even close

[mexpurs21]

I remember the final game of that season, the whole bench went crazy because he actually scored a basket. :wow

That was the 1st NBA game i witnessed live, it was against the Mavs and Timmy didnt play :bang

[ambchang]

I would say this guy though, he seemed like he could barely even get down the court when he played. I could never figure out why he ever made an NBA roster:

http://foreverdunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/1_215457_1.jpeg

From what I remember, it was more around the NBA back then, which is get enough big guys to foul Shaq. Bateer was part of that movement to have 6 more fouls.

[ambchang]

I can't believe this thread has gone on as long as it has without mentioning Richard Jefferson. It's RJ and it's not even close

You must be new.

[Blake]

Sidney Green

Spurs traded a 1st round pick for this ass.

[sananspursfan21]

Is that Bateer?


thats what i thought but did he ever play for the spurs? i dont think he did

[sananspursfan21]

nevermind, i guess he did play for sa. huh, dont remember that, and that makes him a candidate for the worst

[LkrFan]

Dennis Rodman.

Why? He wasted 2 years of Robinson's prime. Turned the team into a circus show. Refused to guard Horry in the playoffs, costing us the Houston series and ultimately the 94-95 title as we would have wiped the floor with Orlando.

Can't be Rodman. He rang 5 times with other squads. Must have been a leadership issue, tbh.

[dbreiden83080]

Beno was fuckin awful..

[dav4463]

Tie between Sylvester Norris and Wiley Peck. They were both big men who could rebound and then turn it over on the same play.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Terry Porter was great in his original role off the bench, but was way too old to be starting. Van Exel's knees were done by the time he got to SA, so there's no comparison. If I had to pick a top 5, containing only players who actually played, it would be

1. Vinny Del Negro - Red McCombs, you suck for letting Strickland walk and replacing him with a worthless soft Euro. Not paying Strickland was probably the thing that wrecked Robinson's prime years more than anything. Man, the Spurs could run like hell back when Rocket Rod was playing the point. Instead we got a guy who had no point guard skills and could drop 20 on Atlanta in February but nothing in a game that meant much. Watching Del Negro on Drexler was like pulling the hairs out your nut sack with duct tape.

2. Steve Smith - LOL @ him threatening to hold out when Pop wouldn't give him an extension to his massively bloated $10 million a year salary. Just no hustle whatsoever from this guy. I understand not being able to move laterally when you have bad knees, but dive for a loose ball every once in a while in the playoffs when you're making 8 figures.

3. Samaki Walker - Straight up worthless. Dumbest player in franchise history and one of the softest on top of that. Then that loser went and called Robinson soft on LA radio? Nothing defines soft like taking the cortisone shot and guarding Shaq two days after you couldn't walk, I guess. Fuck Walker and the ring he got piggybacking Shaq.

4. Paul Pressey - Can you believe the Spurs gave up Frank Brickowski for this guy? Pressey played well with Cummings in Milwaukee, but man he sucked in SA. About the only good thing you can say about Pressey is that it was funny watching him hold Pop back from the refs after every bad call.

5. Matt Bonner - Power forwards who can't rebound nor defend should never be getting 20 minutes a night. Bonner has to be Popovich's biggest mistake. The Spurs become defensive turnstiles any time he is on the floor.

Hard to go past that list, although I don't give Nasty Nick a free pass for bad knees - he should have retired rather than putting us through that horrific shit he put out on the court.

[SpurCharger]

I agree With Baseline Bums Post.... But I have to Throw Another Name in there...... Negele Knight, He might have been one of the Worst point guards I have Ever seen. I think he was With the Spurs In the 93-94 season.

[watertorture]

Can't be Rodman. He rang 5 times with other squads. Must have been a leadership issue, tbh.

The question isn't who was the worst player to be a Spur but who was the worst Spur.

[callo1]

Charles Smith is one that comes to mind.

[Calispursfan11]

Charles Smith is one that comes to mind.

He was pretty bad. I think Spurs got him post Knicks. He wasn't so good as a Knick either.

[Tuche]

Sidney Green was the worst. Big contract = Big no production. We could not get rid of him.

[Giuseppe]

He was pretty bad. I think Spurs got him post Knicks. He wasn't so good as a Knick either.

I liked him as a Knick. He had nice footwork around the basket. Very fundamentally sound player.

[baseline bum]

I liked him as a Knick. He had nice footwork around the basket. Very fundamentally sound player.

I'm a fan of solid fundamentals too. :tu

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