View Full Version : Breaking: Steve Jobs Dead?
Nbadan
10-05-2011, 06:39 PM
...so says twitter....
no confirmation yet..
CosmicCowboy
10-05-2011, 06:41 PM
He looked like hell last time I saw a picture. Cancer is like that. When it comes back and metastasizes it's a bitch.
Nbadan
10-05-2011, 06:41 PM
confirmed
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/statement-by-apples-board-of-directors-2011-10-05
Nbadan
10-05-2011, 06:42 PM
CUPERTINO, Calif., Oct 05, 2011 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- We are deeply saddened to announce that Steve Jobs passed away today.
Steve's brilliance, passion and energy were the source of countless innovations that enrich and improve all of our lives. The world is immeasurably better because of Steve.
His greatest love was for his wife, Laurene, and his family. Our hearts go out to them and to all who were touched by his extraordinary gifts.
time to dump some Mac stock...
NASpurs
10-05-2011, 06:43 PM
Geez and I joked around when I said "Steve Jobs must be rolling in his grave" about the iPhone 4s. I'm some kind of visionary.
CosmicCowboy
10-05-2011, 06:43 PM
time to buy yours.
CosmicCowboy
10-05-2011, 06:44 PM
double post
Nbadan
10-05-2011, 06:45 PM
Maybe I'll wait till after the new Iphone comes out
NASpurs
10-05-2011, 06:45 PM
That was fast from apple. It's like they had it ready.
http://www.apple.com/stevejobs/
http://images.apple.com/stevejobs/images/t_title.png
resistanze
10-05-2011, 06:46 PM
Damn.
MannyIsGod
10-05-2011, 06:47 PM
End of an era. To say dude was visionary is putting it lightly.
CosmicCowboy
10-05-2011, 06:51 PM
That was fast from apple. It's like they had it ready.
http://www.apple.com/stevejobs/
http://images.apple.com/stevejobs/images/t_title.png
I went through that with my sister. It's no secret it's coming.
baseline bum
10-05-2011, 06:54 PM
You gotta admire the way he rebuilt Apple after Microsoft had put them face down in the dirt in the 90s. Really awful to see the guy dead at 56.
CosmicCowboy
10-05-2011, 06:56 PM
You gotta admire the way he rebuilt Apple after Microsoft had put them face down in the dirt in the 90s. Really awful to see the guy dead at 56.
Yeah. He GOT what a change cell/mobile would really make to the world before anyone else did.
MannyIsGod
10-05-2011, 07:07 PM
My first experience with a computer was on an Apple IIE. Changed my life as a kid.
clambake
10-05-2011, 07:08 PM
does my tangerine mac go up in value?
silverblk mystix
10-05-2011, 07:10 PM
Once in a blue moon...a talent like that comes along...touches people and changes the world...then departs....
RIP.
ElNono
10-05-2011, 07:17 PM
rip
silverblk mystix
10-05-2011, 07:20 PM
just woke my computer from sleep...to this;
http://www.apple.com/
Trainwreck2100
10-05-2011, 07:28 PM
he was the original investor for pixar
ChuckD
10-05-2011, 07:46 PM
Steve Jobs was smart, but mostly what he had was common sense. He sold people what they wanted instead of what he wanted to sell them. I guess the smart part was understanding what that is. Gates sure as shit never did.
Trainwreck2100
10-05-2011, 08:00 PM
Gates just stole or bought out shit.
silverblk mystix
10-05-2011, 10:16 PM
Posted this in the Club...but it is worth reading...
from Steve Jobs a few years ago to college grads...
This is a prepared text of the Commencement address delivered by Steve Jobs, CEO of Apple Computer and of Pixar Animation Studios, on June 12, 2005.
I am honored to be with you today at your commencement from one of the finest universities in the world. I never graduated from college. Truth be told, this is the closest I've ever gotten to a college graduation. Today I want to tell you three stories from my life. That's it. No big deal. Just three stories.
The first story is about connecting the dots.
I dropped out of Reed College after the first 6 months, but then stayed around as a drop-in for another 18 months or so before I really quit. So why did I drop out?
It started before I was born. My biological mother was a young, unwed college graduate student, and she decided to put me up for adoption. She felt very strongly that I should be adopted by college graduates, so everything was all set for me to be adopted at birth by a lawyer and his wife. Except that when I popped out they decided at the last minute that they really wanted a girl. So my parents, who were on a waiting list, got a call in the middle of the night asking: "We have an unexpected baby boy; do you want him?" They said: "Of course." My biological mother later found out that my mother had never graduated from college and that my father had never graduated from high school. She refused to sign the final adoption papers. She only relented a few months later when my parents promised that I would someday go to college.
And 17 years later I did go to college. But I naively chose a college that was almost as expensive as Stanford, and all of my working-class parents' savings were being spent on my college tuition. After six months, I couldn't see the value in it. I had no idea what I wanted to do with my life and no idea how college was going to help me figure it out. And here I was spending all of the money my parents had saved their entire life. So I decided to drop out and trust that it would all work out OK. It was pretty scary at the time, but looking back it was one of the best decisions I ever made. The minute I dropped out I could stop taking the required classes that didn't interest me, and begin dropping in on the ones that looked interesting.
It wasn't all romantic. I didn't have a dorm room, so I slept on the floor in friends' rooms, I returned coke bottles for the 5¢ deposits to buy food with, and I would walk the 7 miles across town every Sunday night to get one good meal a week at the Hare Krishna temple. I loved it. And much of what I stumbled into by following my curiosity and intuition turned out to be priceless later on. Let me give you one example:
Reed College at that time offered perhaps the best calligraphy instruction in the country. Throughout the campus every poster, every label on every drawer, was beautifully hand calligraphed. Because I had dropped out and didn't have to take the normal classes, I decided to take a calligraphy class to learn how to do this. I learned about serif and san serif typefaces, about varying the amount of space between different letter combinations, about what makes great typography great. It was beautiful, historical, artistically subtle in a way that science can't capture, and I found it fascinating.
None of this had even a hope of any practical application in my life. But ten years later, when we were designing the first Macintosh computer, it all came back to me. And we designed it all into the Mac. It was the first computer with beautiful typography. If I had never dropped in on that single course in college, the Mac would have never had multiple typefaces or proportionally spaced fonts. And since Windows just copied the Mac, it's likely that no personal computer would have them. If I had never dropped out, I would have never dropped in on this calligraphy class, and personal computers might not have the wonderful typography that they do. Of course it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear looking backwards ten years later.
Again, you can't connect the dots looking forward; you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something — your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. This approach has never let me down, and it has made all the difference in my life.
My second story is about love and loss.
I was lucky — I found what I loved to do early in life. Woz and I started Apple in my parents garage when I was 20. We worked hard, and in 10 years Apple had grown from just the two of us in a garage into a $2 billion company with over 4000 employees. We had just released our finest creation — the Macintosh — a year earlier, and I had just turned 30. And then I got fired. How can you get fired from a company you started? Well, as Apple grew we hired someone who I thought was very talented to run the company with me, and for the first year or so things went well. But then our visions of the future began to diverge and eventually we had a falling out. When we did, our Board of Directors sided with him. So at 30 I was out. And very publicly out. What had been the focus of my entire adult life was gone, and it was devastating.
I really didn't know what to do for a few months. I felt that I had let the previous generation of entrepreneurs down - that I had dropped the baton as it was being passed to me. I met with David Packard and Bob Noyce and tried to apologize for screwing up so badly. I was a very public failure, and I even thought about running away from the valley. But something slowly began to dawn on me — I still loved what I did. The turn of events at Apple had not changed that one bit. I had been rejected, but I was still in love. And so I decided to start over.
I didn't see it then, but it turned out that getting fired from Apple was the best thing that could have ever happened to me. The heaviness of being successful was replaced by the lightness of being a beginner again, less sure about everything. It freed me to enter one of the most creative periods of my life.
During the next five years, I started a company named NeXT, another company named Pixar, and fell in love with an amazing woman who would become my wife. Pixar went on to create the worlds first computer animated feature film, Toy Story, and is now the most successful animation studio in the world. In a remarkable turn of events, Apple bought NeXT, I returned to Apple, and the technology we developed at NeXT is at the heart of Apple's current renaissance. And Laurene and I have a wonderful family together.
I'm pretty sure none of this would have happened if I hadn't been fired from Apple. It was awful tasting medicine, but I guess the patient needed it. Sometimes life hits you in the head with a brick. Don't lose faith. I'm convinced that the only thing that kept me going was that I loved what I did. You've got to find what you love. And that is as true for your work as it is for your lovers. Your work is going to fill a large part of your life, and the only way to be truly satisfied is to do what you believe is great work. And the only way to do great work is to love what you do. If you haven't found it yet, keep looking. Don't settle. As with all matters of the heart, you'll know when you find it. And, like any great relationship, it just gets better and better as the years roll on. So keep looking until you find it. Don't settle.
My third story is about death.
When I was 17, I read a quote that went something like: "If you live each day as if it was your last, someday you'll most certainly be right." It made an impression on me, and since then, for the past 33 years, I have looked in the mirror every morning and asked myself: "If today were the last day of my life, would I want to do what I am about to do today?" And whenever the answer has been "No" for too many days in a row, I know I need to change something.
Remembering that I'll be dead soon is the most important tool I've ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything — all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure - these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important. Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart.
About a year ago I was diagnosed with cancer. I had a scan at 7:30 in the morning, and it clearly showed a tumor on my pancreas. I didn't even know what a pancreas was. The doctors told me this was almost certainly a type of cancer that is incurable, and that I should expect to live no longer than three to six months. My doctor advised me to go home and get my affairs in order, which is doctor's code for prepare to die. It means to try to tell your kids everything you thought you'd have the next 10 years to tell them in just a few months. It means to make sure everything is buttoned up so that it will be as easy as possible for your family. It means to say your goodbyes.
I lived with that diagnosis all day. Later that evening I had a biopsy, where they stuck an endoscope down my throat, through my stomach and into my intestines, put a needle into my pancreas and got a few cells from the tumor. I was sedated, but my wife, who was there, told me that when they viewed the cells under a microscope the doctors started crying because it turned out to be a very rare form of pancreatic cancer that is curable with surgery. I had the surgery and I'm fine now.
This was the closest I've been to facing death, and I hope it's the closest I get for a few more decades. Having lived through it, I can now say this to you with a bit more certainty than when death was a useful but purely intellectual concept:
No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don't want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life's change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.
Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma — which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.
When I was young, there was an amazing publication called The Whole Earth Catalog, which was one of the bibles of my generation. It was created by a fellow named Stewart Brand not far from here in Menlo Park, and he brought it to life with his poetic touch. This was in the late 1960's, before personal computers and desktop publishing, so it was all made with typewriters, scissors, and polaroid cameras. It was sort of like Google in paperback form, 35 years before Google came along: it was idealistic, and overflowing with neat tools and great notions.
Stewart and his team put out several issues of The Whole Earth Catalog, and then when it had run its course, they put out a final issue. It was the mid-1970s, and I was your age. On the back cover of their final issue was a photograph of an early morning country road, the kind you might find yourself hitchhiking on if you were so adventurous. Beneath it were the words: "Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish." It was their farewell message as they signed off. Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish. And I have always wished that for myself. And now, as you graduate to begin anew, I wish that for you.
Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish.
Thank you all very much.
ElNono
10-06-2011, 12:04 AM
POTUS message:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/10/05/president-obama-passing-steve-jobs-he-changed-way-each-us-sees-world
mouse
10-06-2011, 12:08 AM
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/jesus-inside3.jpg
Yonivore
10-06-2011, 07:46 AM
Steve Jobs is a lucky man, today.
He was born placed for adoption by his un-wed mother who could not afford to raise him. Just think if abortion has been legal and as readily available then, as it is today.
He lived a capitalist life of creativity that enriched him and those who were fortunate enough to be employed by Apple, hold their stock, or provide the support products and services Apple required.
He died just as socialist/liberal/anarchists are trying to undo the capitalist, free market structure that made Apple and Steve Jobs success possible.
I have a friend who went on a Facebook rant early yesterday about how the "Occupy Wall Street" crowd was going to bring down the capitalist pigs in America. It was followed last night with a poignant post about which of Apple's devices he was using when he learned of Job's death.
I guess he didn't recognize Steve Job's was one of the biggest capitalist pigs of all. Irony. Gotta love America.
http://images.apple.com/home/images/t_hero.png
MannyIsGod
10-06-2011, 07:56 AM
Yoni you're capable of ruining any fucking thread.
Yonivore
10-06-2011, 07:59 AM
Yoni you're capable of ruining any fucking thread.
I think I enhanced it.
coyotes_geek
10-06-2011, 08:02 AM
RIP. Truly a man who changed the world. :(
boutons_deux
10-06-2011, 08:32 AM
amazing guy and life (LSD, Zen, Whole Earth catalog!!), but Apple Corp has turned into the authoritarian, closed, secretive, powerful Big Brother that Apple's famous anti-IBM/Big Brother ad railed against.
clambake
10-06-2011, 08:59 AM
facebook friend rant lol
DarrinS
10-06-2011, 09:58 AM
RIP
Dude was a visionary.
Some might say he was one of the "winners in life's lottery" (I truly detest that saying), but Apple and Pixar wouldn't be where they are today without the vision and drive of that one individual. When it came to the life (and death) of Steve Jobs, luck was not a factor.
MannyIsGod
10-06-2011, 09:59 AM
There are people who win life's lottery but Steve Jobs wasn't one of them. You do one big thing and it might be chance. You revolutionize several industries and come out ahead of everyone else on so many different things then you're just flat out brilliant.
I would love to have ONE of the dozens of ideas Jobs conceptualized.
boutons_deux
10-06-2011, 10:02 AM
What really initiated the Apple II's momentum was one program: VisiCalc, which Jobs and Apple didn't write.
Agloco
10-06-2011, 10:09 AM
I have a friend who went on a Facebook rant early yesterday about how the "Occupy Wall Street" crowd was going to bring down the capitalist pigs in America. It was followed last night with a poignant post about which of Apple's devices he was using when he learned of Job's death.
I guess he didn't recognize Steve Job's was one of the biggest capitalist pigs of all. Irony. Gotta love America.
I think you realize that it's necessary to split hairs here and that your "friend" was targeting capitalists who didn't/don't contribute to society in a unique fashion such as Jobs did.
I'll just file your post under disingenuous and walk away.
Yonivore
10-06-2011, 10:54 AM
I think you realize that it's necessary to split hairs here and that your "friend" was targeting capitalists who didn't/don't contribute to society in a unique fashion such as Jobs did.
I don't see my friend or any of the occupiers of Wall Street splitting such hairs. They seem intent on blaming "Wall Street" for all our ills without making the distinction you assert.
Tell me; of the tens of thousands of businesses listed on the exchanges; which are the "good" capitalists and which are the "bad" capitalists? Should we just let Michael Moore or, God forbid, Rosanne Barr pick and choose which deserve the guillotine or reeducation camps?
Had the government not stepped in; Wall Street would have taken care of this three years ago.
I'll just file your post under disingenuous and walk away.
And, yet, you didn't just "walk away."
Agloco
10-06-2011, 11:56 AM
I don't see my friend or any of the occupiers of Wall Street splitting such hairs. They seem intent on blaming "Wall Street" for all our ills without making the distinction you assert.
They seem, or they are? I doubt you really know. Sure the protesters havent come out with a mission statement as you've requested. That doesn't mean the individuals don't have a clear goal(s) in mind.
Tell me; of the tens of thousands of businesses listed on the exchanges; which are the "good" capitalists and which are the "bad" capitalists? Should we just let Michael Moore or, God forbid, Rosanne Barr pick and choose which deserve the guillotine or reeducation camps?
Well, that's the trillion dollar question now isn't it? Seems to be a pretty good thing for the protesters to identify and get out in the open.
And, yet, you didn't just "walk away."
Let he who is innocent........
Yonivore
10-06-2011, 12:05 PM
They seem, or they are? I doubt you really know. Sure the protesters havent come out with a mission statement as you've requested. That doesn't mean the individuals don't have a clear goal(s) in mind.
In the absence of a stated purpose, aren't we all left to supposition? But, alas...
Well, that's the trillion dollar question now isn't it? Seems to be a pretty good thing for the protesters to identify and get out in the open.
...it appears they have.
First OFFICIAL Release from OCCUPY WALL STREET (User Submitted) (http://occupywallst.org/forum/first-official-release-from-occupy-wall-street/)
It appears nebulous "corporations" are the "they" to which is alluded at the first of every one of their 23 grievances. Not very specific and, it would probably take all day to sift through the vomit of complaints tossed on the page.
Let he who is innocent........
I wasn't the one suggesting to "file your post under disingenuous and walk away." No, you added that middle step of responding.
ChumpDumper
10-06-2011, 12:10 PM
Damn, yoni just wants to politicize every fucking thing in the world.
lol OFFICIAL (User Submitted)
ElNono
10-06-2011, 12:16 PM
yoni defending a Democrat? crofl
Agloco
10-06-2011, 12:22 PM
In the absence of a stated purpose, aren't we all left to supposition? But, alas...
I subscribe to reasonable suppositions. I don't believe yours was.
...it appears they have.
First OFFICIAL Release from OCCUPY WALL STREET (User Submitted) (http://occupywallst.org/forum/first-official-release-from-occupy-wall-street/)
It appears nebulous "corporations" are the "they" to which is alluded at the first of every one of their 23 grievances. Not very specific and, it would probably take all day to sift through the vomit of complaints tossed on the page.
It's a start. Did you expect a polished treatiste at this point in time?
I wasn't the one suggesting to "file your post under disingenuous and walk away." No, you added that middle step of responding.
I take this as an assertion that you've never said one thing and done another? You've got me there. I'll need to take notes from you on how to be a better person then.
Let me get my iPad out first.
Yonivore
10-06-2011, 12:43 PM
I subscribe to reasonable suppositions. I don't believe yours was.
I think it was perfectly reasonable, particularly after reading their grievances against "corporations," to suggest they really don't know what they're protesting. Even the founders knew, when crafting the Declaration of Independence, the source of their upset was King George III. Hell, they actually crafted their declaration before starting a revolution. It would have saved the "Occupy Wall Street" idiots a lot of ridicule.
It's a start. Did you expect a polished treatiste at this point in time?
It's a cart vs. horse thing, if you ask me. Before I approach anyone with a grievance, I pretty much have the specifics, along with proposed resolutions, ironed out.
I take this as an assertion that you've never said one thing and done another? You've got me there. I'll need to take notes from you on how to be a better person then.
Let me get my iPad out first.
Let me know when you're ready...
Agloco
10-06-2011, 01:06 PM
I think it was perfectly reasonable, particularly after reading their grievances against "corporations," to suggest they really don't know what they're protesting. Even the founders knew, when crafting the Declaration of Independence, the source of their upset was King George III. Hell, they actually crafted their declaration before starting a revolution. It would have saved the "Occupy Wall Street" idiots a lot of ridicule.
Quite an interesting comparison, however nothing so grandiose as what the forefathers hatched is in the pipeline here. They're protesting, not inciting revolution against a governing entity.
It's a cart vs. horse thing, if you ask me. Before I approach anyone with a grievance, I pretty much have the specifics, along with proposed resolutions, ironed out.
:tu I would too. Now duplicate that feat with thousands of strangers. I think that for a protest, it's more important to be visible first since many voices want to be heard at once.
Let me know when you're ready...
Waiting for something of redeemable value. I think I'll grab a snickers, or two.
FromWayDowntown
10-06-2011, 01:17 PM
Hey, did ya'll hear that Steve Jobs died?
I was reading this thread, hoping to read what people thought about his contributions to society and the tragedy of his early death, but ran into a bunch of hot rhetoric about political issues that have nothing to do with Steve Jobs.
Just wanted to be sure that the news had gotten out.
ElNono
10-06-2011, 01:25 PM
Hey, did ya'll hear that Steve Jobs died?
I was reading this thread, hoping to read what people thought about his contributions to society and the tragedy of his early death, but ran into a bunch of hot rhetoric about political issues that have nothing to do with Steve Jobs.
Just wanted to be sure that the news had gotten out.
Excuse the ankle-biters with their faux outrage
Yonivore
10-06-2011, 01:49 PM
Hey, did ya'll hear that Steve Jobs died?
Really? Hadn't heard.
I was reading this thread, hoping to read what people thought about his contributions to society and the tragedy of his early death, but ran into a bunch of hot rhetoric about political issues that have nothing to do with Steve Jobs.
Imagine that! In a political forum, no less. Where's the fucking decency.
Just wanted to be sure that the news had gotten out.
Thanks! I, for one, appreciate that.
Agloco
10-06-2011, 01:55 PM
Hey, did ya'll hear that Steve Jobs died?
I was reading this thread, hoping to read what people thought about his contributions to society and the tragedy of his early death, but ran into a bunch of hot rhetoric about political issues that have nothing to do with Steve Jobs.
Just wanted to be sure that the news had gotten out.
Let me get my iPad out first.
I did my best...........
Yoni-troll ftw.
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