Apparently, the Nobel Prize idiots...

[Yonivore]

...have done it again.

Carter, Arafat, Obama, and now...Tawakkul Karman.

Peace Prize Winner’s Troubling Affiliation (http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/10/07/islah-peace-prize-al-qaeda-terrorism/)


This year, three women won the Nobel Peace Prize: Liberian President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, Liberian peace activist Leymah Gbowee and Yemeni activist Tawakkul Karman. Kudos to all three, but perhaps it’s time to ask Karman about Islah, the political party to which news reports say she belongs (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2011-10-07/nobel-peace-prize/50685198/1). Back in 2010, The New York Times’ Steve Erlanger did a feature (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/19/world/middleeast/19yemen.html?pagewanted=all)on Al Eman University in the Yemeni capital of Sana’a:


This university, the size of a village, was founded in 1993 by Sheik Abdul Majid al-Zindani, a revered spiritual leader, theological adviser to Osama bin Laden and co-founder of the main Yemeni opposition party, Islah. In 2004, the United States Treasury put Mr. Zindani on a list of “specially designated global terrorists” for suspected fund-raising for Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups.
Perhaps it’s time to ask the latest Nobel Laureate about the links between the party to which she pays allegiance and Al Qaeda, and her thoughts about the late Bin Laden? Then again, even if she were to embrace the terrorist leader, it’s still par for the course when it comes to the Nobel Peace Prize.obel Peace Prize.

[DMX7]

I can't take this seriously, Yoni, not just because you posted it (which is reason enough), but because the liberal media was cited.

[Yonivore]

I can't take this seriously, Yoni, not just because you posted it (which is reason enough), but because the liberal media was cited.
I'm crushed. It was you, specifically, I was hoping would take this seriously.

[DMX7]

I'm crushed. It was you, specifically, I was hoping would take this seriously.

I know, but I just can't legitimize such ridiculousness. I'm sorry I had to do that to you, but you have no one to blame but yourself.

[ChumpDumper]

The Nobel committee is richer than yoni and it's all yoni's fault.

[Yonivore]

I know, but I just can't legitimize such ridiculousness. I'm sorry I had to do that to you, but you have no one to blame but yourself.
Thanks for the consolation but, I somehow think I'll recover and carry on.

[admiralsnackbar]

...have done it again.

Carter, Arafat, Obama, and now...Tawakkul Karman.


Surprised you included Carter and left out Gore.

Not surprised you left out Kissinger.

[Yonivore]

Surprised you included Carter and left out Gore.
Damn! Me too!


Not surprised you left out Kissinger.
Me neither!

[ElNono]

Thanks for the consolation but, I somehow think I'll recover and carry on.

I wouldn't put money on it...

[Agloco]

Surprised you included Carter and left out Gore.

Not surprised you left out Kissinger.


Damn! Me too!


Me neither!

http://www.photography139.com/snapshots/albums/userpics/10001/normal_010ShannonPickingCherries.jpg

[DMX7]

Yoni should begin his sentences the way his new hero Herman Cain does, "I don’t have facts to back this up, but I happen to believe..."

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/10/05/336423/her-cain-jobless-blame-yourself/

Newsflash though, Yoni: Herman Cain is not a fan of people who aren't rich. They only have themselves to blame.

[Yonivore]

Newsflash DMX7: Herman Cain is not a fan of people who wear the cloak of victim as an excuse for failure.

I'm a Cracker for Cain!

[ElNono]

Newsflash DMX7: Herman Cain is not a fan of people who wear the cloak of victim as an excuse for failure.

IOW, he's not a fan of you.

[DMX7]

Newsflash DMX7: Herman Cain is not a fan of people who wear the cloak of victim as an excuse for failure.

I'm a Cracker for Cain!

Stop playing the victim card then, Yoni. Why aren't you rich? Blame yourself!

[Yonivore]

Stop playing the victim card then, Yoni. Why aren't you rich? Blame yourself!
Who's playing a victim card? :lmao

I'm not in the 1% but, I'm damn not a part of this 99% (in reality about .05%) nonsense, either. I'm perfectly happy with my success.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Who's playing a victim card? :lmao

I'm not in the 1% but, I'm damn not a part of this 99% (in reality about .05%) nonsense, either. I'm perfectly happy with my success.

how's that brilliant law enforcement career working out for you? you must be chief by now, am I right?

[Yonivore]

how's that brilliant law enforcement career working out for you? you must be chief by now, am I right?
I'm doing fine. Thanks for asking.

[ChumpDumper]

What are you supposed to be doing at work when you are posting?

[ElNono]

What are you supposed to be doing at work when you are posting?

Cain would tell you he's not working hard enough... and it's only his fault.

[Oh, Gee!!]

What are you supposed to be doing at work when you are posting?

the usual: arresting bad guys, breaking up criminal organizations, solving cold cases, getting his partner (who's perpetually one week away from retirement) into all kinds of crazy predicaments

[xrayzebra]

Oh, Youse Guys, crack me up.........

:huddle:

[ChumpDumper]

Oh, it's a holiday. I'm sure government employees who hate the government have a paid day off.

[Agloco]

Who's playing a victim card? :lmao

I'm not in the 1% but, I'm damn not a part of this 99% (in reality about .05%) nonsense, either. I'm perfectly happy with my success.

:tu

Just remember to blame yourself if you ever get into an accident, are forced to retire and require regular medical procedures which drain your savings.

[ElNono]

Just remember to blame yourself if you ever get into an accident, are forced to retire and require regular medical procedures which drain your savings.

IIRC, yoni is/was a government employee. Sucking from the government teat won't be foreign to him.

[Yonivore]

:tu

Just remember to blame yourself if you ever get into an accident,...
Been in more than my share over the years.


...are forced to retire...
Already drawing one annuity, have two retirement plans I haven't even touched and am gainfully employed for, at least, the next 20 years -- if I choose.


...and require regular medical procedures which drain your savings.
Insurance, ain't it great? How's that Obamacare working out for everybody?

If I ever get in a financial crack, for the reasons you mention, it won't be because I didn't prepare.

[ElNono]

Insurance, ain't it great?

Not when you're 65+... or when you lose your job due to an accident... then it magically disappears... not great at all.

[Yonivore]

Not when you're 65+... or when you lose your job due to an accident... then it magically disappears... not great at all.
Well, if you're 65+, and you've been gainfully employed a majority of the previous 50 years, and don't have a robust retirement plan, you've made some poor choices.

I could have a career ending accident now -- although, I'm not sure what that would be in my position -- and I'd be fine.

[ChumpDumper]

True, I don't think neocon pastebot is a position fraught with danger.

[ElNono]

Well, if you're 65+, and you've been gainfully employed a majority of the previous 50 years, and don't have a robust retirement plan, you've made some poor choices.

I could have a career ending accident now -- although, I'm not sure what that would be in my position -- and I'd be fine.

What does that has to do with insurance being great/not great?

And no, you could have a career ending accident now and not be fine. Don't need to BS me.

[Yonivore]

What does that has to do with insurance being great/not great?
I made insurance a priority.


And no, you could have a career ending accident now and not be fine. Don't need to BS me.
Sure, I would. I'm only working now because I like the additional income and I enjoy the work.

[ElNono]

I made insurance a priority.

Doesn't matter when you no longer have insurance.


Sure, I would. I'm only working now because I like the additional income and I enjoy the work.

And the fact that you get the insurance.

Any sort of out of pocket surgery can quickly put you in the red.

BTW, out of curiosity, am I paying for your salary/insurance?

[Yonivore]

Doesn't matter when you no longer have insurance.
Well, when I have no insurance it'll be because nobody has insurance. I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.


And the fact that you get the insurance.

Any sort of out of pocket surgery can quickly put you in the red.
I doubt it. Had a child that spent six months in a NICU; had my portion paid off in less than six months.


BTW, out of curiosity, am I paying for your salary/insurance?
Nope.

[ElNono]

Well, when I have no insurance it'll be because nobody has insurance. I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

Not really. Three months out of work and you're done, unless you start ponying up.


I doubt it. Had a child that spent six months in a NICU; had my portion paid off in less than six months.

Your insurance covered it, yoni. If it was you six months in the ICU, bye bye insurance.


Nope.

So your "law enforcement" career is private "law enforcement" career?

[Yonivore]

Not really. Three months out of work and you're done, unless you start ponying up.
Nope. You don't have to have a job to be insured.


Your insurance covered it, yoni. If it was you six months in the ICU, bye bye insurance.
Nope. You don't have to have a job to be insured.


So your "law enforcement" career is private "law enforcement" career?
Nope. You don't pay attention.

Look, I appreciate your concern but, I'm really going to be fine for the next few decades, at least. And, if my savings pattern holds, for much longer.

[ElNono]

Nope. You don't have to have a job to be insured.

You do if you don't want to pony up the entire premium. Which takes us to Agloco's point.


Nope. You don't pay attention.

So you're a government employee. That's ok.

What part I didn't pay attention to?


Look, I appreciate your concern but, I'm really going to be fine for the next few decades, at least. And, if my savings pattern holds, for much longer.

I'm not concerned. I said I was curious.
I hope your health holds too.

[Yonivore]

You do if you don't want to pony up the entire premium. Which takes us to Agloco's point.
I'd pony up the entire premium.


So you're a government employee. That's ok.

What part I didn't pay attention to?
That I'm not a government employee, apparently.


I'm not concerned. I said I was curious.
I hope your health holds too.
Thanks.

[ElNono]

I'd pony up the entire premium.

Right, which is hard to offset if you're not actually working. Aglioco's point precisely.


That I'm not a government employee, apparently.

So you're a government contractor?

[Yonivore]

Right, which is hard to offset if you're not actually working. Aglioco's point precisely.
Unless you've saved aggressively, since the age of 13; have a nice retirement annuity, and two other personal retirement accounts that will allow you to offset the additional costs without much pain.


So you're a government contractor?
Nope.

[ElNono]

Unless you've saved aggressively, since the age of 13; have a nice retirement annuity, and two other personal retirement accounts that will allow you to offset the additional costs without much pain.

Which is exactly what Aglioco said. Burning through your savings sounds aptly appropriate.


Nope.

So you're not in the public sector law enforcement, not on the private sector law enforcement. Not a contractor. Sounds like you're beating around the bush or full of shit.

[Yonivore]

Which is exactly what Aglioco said. Burning through your savings sounds aptly appropriate.
It'd take awhile.


So you're not in the public sector law enforcement, not on the private sector law enforcement. Not a contractor. Sounds like you're beating around the bush or full of shit.
Somebody want to help ElNono out? I could care less if he never figures it out.

[ElNono]

It'd take awhile.

As Aglioco described it, no time at all.


Somebody want to help ElNono out? I could care less if he never figures it out.

I'm not making you answer. Why beat around the bush though? How embarrassing can it really be?

[Yonivore]

As Aglioco described it, no time at all.
Agloco doesn't know my financial position.


I'm not making you answer. Why beat around the bush though? How embarrassing can it really be?
It's not. You should be embarrassed for not seeing the answer, just in the past few posts, in this thread.

[ElNono]

Agloco doesn't know my financial position.

Aglioco knows what's the cost of care. You told us your financial position. Certainly not the 1% (your words).


It's not. You should be embarrassed for not seeing the answer, just in the past few posts, in this thread.

If by "not seeing the answer" you mean that you're retired, I did see that answer. But you said you're still working. No longer in law enforcement?

[Yonivore]

Aglioco knows what's the cost of care. You told us your financial position. Certainly not the 1% (your words).
You don't have to be to afford adequate insurance.


If by "not seeing the answer" you mean that you're retired, I did see that answer. But you said you're still working. No longer in law enforcement?
See, that wasn't hard.

[ElNono]

You don't have to be to afford adequate insurance.

Unfortunately, in the scenario Aglioco pointed out, you might need to be. Even more so if it's a chronic condition before 2014. After that, Obamacare will allow you to buy/keep your insurance.


See, that wasn't hard.

So I'm paying for your pension?. Good for you, yoni. See? that wasn't hard.

[Th'Pusher]

You don't have to be to afford adequate insurance.


See, that wasn't hard.

Lol at nursing off the government teat while railing against it

[Yonivore]

Unfortunately, in the scenario Aglioco pointed out, you might need to be. Even more so if it's a chronic condition before 2014. After that, Obamacare will allow you to buy/keep your insurance.
I'm not concerned.


So I'm paying for your pension?. Good for you, yoni. See? that wasn't hard.
Actually, you're not.

[ElNono]

Actually, you're not.

I'm sure sooner or later I will. Heck, you'll be paying for my Medicare at some point too. Nothing wrong with it. It happens.

[Yonivore]

I'm sure sooner or later I will.
Nope.


Heck, you'll be paying for my Medicare at some point too. Nothing wrong with it. It happens.
I abhor paying your Medicare.

[Th'Pusher]

The government needs to keep their hands off my government funded pension!

[ElNono]

Nope.

Yep.


I abhor paying your Medicare.

Hey, I'll be paying yours and have no problem with it. To each his own.

[ElNono]

The government needs to keep their hands off my government funded pension!

Yoni think insurance companies will insure him after he hits a high risk pool (65+, chronic condition). Chalk it up to another instance where yoni doesn't know what he's talking about.

[Yonivore]

Yep.
Nope.


Hey, I'll be paying yours and have no problem with it. To each his own.
I don't think so. And, if it were only "to each his own," we'd be much better off.

[Yonivore]

Yoni think insurance companies will insure him after he hits a high risk pool (65+, chronic condition). Chalk it up to another instance where yoni doesn't know what he's talking about.
Okay, chalk it up.

Done wasting everyone's time again?

[Th'Pusher]

Yoni is full of GOP talking points. I do find it amusing he sucks so hard off the government teat though.

[ElNono]

Nope.

Yep.


I don't think so. And, if it were only "to each his own," we'd be much better off.

Oh, I think so. Outside of blowing your head off, it's not really your choice.

[ElNono]

Okay, chalk it up.

Done wasting everyone's time again?

I thought I was only wasting your time.

Anybody else feels like yoni? Speak up!

[Th'Pusher]

Yoni, which government tit are you sucking on? Municipal or state?