Democrats for Cain in 2012

[George Gervin's Afro]

Listening to this guy on Meet the Press has me believing that his nomination would make this election easy for the Democrats...

I hope this guy wins...

[baseline bum]

Just like Bush?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

lol Uncle Tom saying he's prolife even in rape or incest situations

[boutons_deux]

I'm sure the Repugs know each of their candidates has serious weaknesses, but the Repug establishment will probably go with Willard, and the tea baggers (actually Kock suckers) will go along.

I read where many evangelicals could find a way to vote for Willard, even if his Joe-Smith-made-up Mormonism is pure, cultish bullshit.

It looks like the nomination is Willard's to lose.

[DMX7]

I didn't catch it all, but did he clarify his 9-9-9 Sim City Tax Plan? Are some poor people going to be paying an 18% sales tax (9% fed/9%state) on everything they buy?

[Nbadan]

I'm sure the Repugs know each of their candidates has serious weaknesses, but the Repug establishment will probably go with Willard, and the tea baggers (actually Kock suckers) will go along.

I read where many evangelicals could find a way to vote for Willard, even if his Joe-Smith-made-up Mormonism is pure, cultish bullshit.

It looks like the nomination is Willard's to lose.

He is the lesser of all evils, but don't discount Perry to pull a bitch (Palin)out of his ass (as VP) and really test wing-nut voter resolve

[boutons_deux]

Cain says invading and occupying Iraq wasn't a mistake.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/16/cain-the-war-in-iraq-wasnt-a-mistake/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

Herman Cain Blames Obama For Bush’s Iraq Withdrawal Deadline

The same day that news broke that — likey because of Iraq’s refusal to grant immunity to American forces and contractors — the U.S. scrapped plans to keep any troops in Iraq beyond the end of the year, Herman Cain once again put his foreign policy ignorance on full display.

In an exclusive interview with the Weekly Standard, ironically headlined “Cain Rips Obama’s ‘Dumb’ Foreign Policy,” the GOP presidential hopeful blamed President Obama for an Iraq policy resulting directly from decision made by by the George W. Bush administration. Cain first complained that Obama was telegraphing U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, then said he was “doing the same thing in Iraq“:

We’ve got 43,000 people still left over there. The Iraqis are making good progress with the help of those 43,000. So what does he do? He goes off and says we’re going to by the end of the year pull out 40,000 troops. I’m sorry if this is not politically correct, but that is a dumb thing to do.

Cain’s analysis here leaves out two crucial factors: that the deal to withdraw American troops from Iraq by the end of 2011 was made by the Bush administration in 2008, and that any change in that agreement would need to be acceded to by the government of Iraq.

The 2008 Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) (PDF) signed by the Bush administration and approved by Iraqi Prime Minsiter Nouri al-Maliki’s government says explicitly:

All the United States Forces shall withdraw from all Iraqi territory no later than December 31, 2011.

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/10/16/345165/herman-cain-blames-obama-for-bushs-iraq-withdrawal-deadline/

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Cain's faith-based con job (infinite faith in himself, so he doesn't have to do his homework) couldn't be more blatant.

[boutons_deux]

Herman Cain 9-9-9 sticker shock? 18% sales tax possible in some states.

If the Republican candidate's 9-9-9 tax plan – which would set up a 9 percent federal sales tax, 9 percent federal payroll tax, and 9 percent federal business tax – were to go into effect, the new federal sales tax would piggyback on top of state and local sales taxes already in existence.

As a result, sales taxes around the nation would be considerably higher than 9 percent.

The residents of Tennessee and Arizona would, on average, have to pay more than 18 percent in combined state, local, and federal taxes, using data from the Tax Foundation, a nonpartisan tax research group in Washington.

At least 12 states would have average sales taxes over 17 percent. California, for example, would come in at a combined rate of 17.13 percent.

And residents of four states – Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire, and Oregon – would have to start paying a sales tax. Currently, they have none.

http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/2011/1014/Herman-Cain-9-9-9-sticker-shock-18-sales-tax-possible-in-some-states?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+feeds%2Fcsm+%28Christian+Scie nce+Monitor+%7C+All+Stories%29

[ElNono]

Cain Says His Deadly Fence Plan Was ‘a Joke’ (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/16/cain-says-his-deadly-fence-plan-was-a-joke/?hp)

At two campaign rallies in Tennessee on Saturday night, the Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said that part of his immigration policy would be to build an electrified fence on the country’s border with Mexico that could kill people trying to enter the country illegally.

But by Sunday morning, in a dramatic change of tone, Mr. Cain, a former restaurant executive, said he was only kidding.

“That’s a joke,” Mr. Cain told the journalist David Gregory during an appearance on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” where he was asked about the electrified fence. “That’s not a serious plan. I’ve also said America needs to get a sense of humor.”

Mr. Cain’s attempt to pass off incendiary comments as nothing but a joke may take more effort, however. In making the initial remarks about an electrified fence killing illegal immigrants, Mr. Cain was detailed and repetitive. He did not introduce his thoughts as anything but serious commentary, beginning with the words, “We have a crisis of illegal immigration.”

And the crowds responded with cheers, not laughs.

As Ed Wyatt reported on Saturday from Tennessee:

The remarks, which came at two campaign rallies as part of a barnstorming bus tour across the state, drew loud cheers from crowds of several hundred people at each rally. At the second stop, in Harriman, Tenn., Mr. Cain added that he also would consider using military troops “with real guns and real bullets” on the border to stop illegal immigration.

The remarks were among the most pointed yet by Mr. Cain about illegal immigration, and they come as he is enjoying a surge in national political polls on the back of his victory in a recent Florida straw poll.

[ElNono]

There's a candidate Cobra can get behind...

[baseline bum]

I read where many evangelicals could find a way to vote for Willard, even if his Joe-Smith-made-up Mormonism is pure, cultish bullshit.


What makes it any different from mainstream christianity?

[boutons_deux]

All the weird branches of so-called Christianity today really aren't that different from Joe Smith's invention.

End Times, Rapture freaks, New Apostolic Reformation, Bible Literalists (letter of the OT, rather than spirit of the NT), Creationists/IDers, tele-evangelist money grubbers, dominionsits, prosperity gospel, gay haters, continuous revelation with of course the hucksters "knowing the mind of God", running for President or invading Iraq because God told 'em to, and the almost complete emphasis and obeisance (well, cherry picking, ignoring some OT books which are too weird even for today's Bible freaks) on the OT rather than the NT.

What a frickin zoo, just as splintered as Hinduism.

[George Gervin's Afro]

There's a candidate Cobra can get behind...

no joke..using real guns and real bullets was wc's plan as well...

[baseline bum]

So no more parts changer when he can be border serial killer?

[boutons_deux]

Cain, just another Kock sucker

As Herman Cain Surges, Corporate Media Ignore His Koch Connections

With two major polls showing Atlanta businessman Herman Cain now moving ahead of former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney to claim the top spot among the contenders for the GOP presidential nomination, media are beating a path to his door. Given Cain's clear and strong connection to the billionaire newsmaker David Koch, you'd think that Cain's longstanding ties to the Americans For Prosperity Foundation, which is chaired by Koch, and its sibling organization, simply known as Americans For Prosperity, would be a meaty topic for enterprising reporters. Apparently not.

Mainstream media outlets have also ignored the checkered past of Cain's campaign manager, Mark Block, who was banned from participation in Wisconsin politics for three years, 2002-2005, because of campaign law violations.

Significant players on Cain's campaign staff are draw from the ranks of Americans for Prosperity or related organizations, beginning with campaign manager Mark Block, who served for six years as director of AFP's Wisconsin chapter. And Cain himself, before launching his presidential campaign, was a frequently featured speaker at events hosted by the Americans For Prosperity Foundation.

http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/152740

[ducks]

boutons getting scared of cain now posting all his alternet.org news post now

[boutons_deux]

Boutons ain't scared of Cain.

Cain cain't win because cain't outraise/outspend Jimmy Ricky and Willard.

[Capt Bringdown]

Obamabots are scared of Romney

[DMC]

What makes it any different from mainstream christianity?
They don't pass around an offering plate and they actually go out and practice what they preach.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Obamabots are scared of Romney
Yeah, because plenty of former Obama supporters like me think Romney is 100x the candidate Obama is.

[ducks]

Boutons ain't scared of Cain.

Cain cain't win because cain't outraise/outspend Jimmy Ricky and Willard.

I would laugh if cain wins with less money
money should not buy you to become president
cain will win because he is not afraid to say his plan 999
most policitians are afraid to list their plan

if people vote for cain for president and he wins
it will because people like his plan

[RandomGuy]

lol Uncle Tom saying he's prolife even in rape or incest situations

Uncle Tom? No.



Uncle Ruckus? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncle_Ruckus) maybe closer...?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7d/Uncle_Ruckus.png/170px-Uncle_Ruckus.png

Boondocks. Said to see it gone.

[RandomGuy]

Obamabots are scared of Romney

Can't see a lot of the GOP getting behind a "cultist".

This Republican nomination process is pure schadenfreude on my part. I can't wait to see what sausage emerges from this meatgrinder.

Or maybe I can....

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Texas has not voted in a Democratic candidate for over 30 years. You can vote in the GOP or the democratic primary.

There is a voting trend by where someone crosses over their political tendencies to vote in the other primary to vote in someone less likely to win.

You can either vote for the democratic or GOP primaries in Texas on March 6.

[Spurminator]

This "let's hope for the worst possible candidate from the other party" meme from party cheerleaders is going to bite all of us in the ass when one of these nutbags actually wins.

[hater]

LOL Herman Cain is awesome. He is like Dubya without a leash

[boutons_deux]

9-9-9 is getting shredded. Cain cain't live it down.

It's pure tax-shifting from rich to poor, the only kind of tax raises Repugs and 1% really really love.

[boutons_deux]

Norquist compares Cain’s ’9-9-9′ plan to putting ‘tapeworms in your tummy’

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/17/norquist-compares-cains-9-9-9-plan-to-putting-tapeworms-in-your-tummy/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

First chinks appearing in the armor of Herman Cain's 9-9-9 plan?

1. The poor

Nonpartisan tax analysts are pretty much agreed on one thing about 9-9-9: It would be a terrible thing for the poor. The reason is that many of the poor pay no income taxes, nor Social Security or Medicare taxes. So wiping away the entire tax structure and replacing it with a 9 percent income tax for everyone actually forces them to pay more. In addition, the poor – like everyone else – will have to pay 9-9-9's new 9 percent federal sales tax, but are the least able to afford it.

So it's a double whammy.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/The-Vote/2011/1017/First-chinks-appearing-in-the-armor-of-Herman-Cain-s-9-9-9-plan?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+feeds%2Fcsm+%28Christian+Scie nce+Monitor+%7C+All+Stories%29

[Creepn]

Uncle Tom? No.



Uncle Ruckus? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncle_Ruckus) maybe closer...?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7d/Uncle_Ruckus.png/170px-Uncle_Ruckus.png

Boondocks. Said to see it gone.

lol Pretty damn good comparison to me.


Ruckus served on a jury in 1957 (making him a minimum of 70 circa 2009) in Tennessee that helped convict a blind black man of killing three white girls. In spite of being blind, the African American man supposedly shot the three with a Winchester rifle from about 50 yards away.

lol.

[hater]

BHFUH_frhBw