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Capt Bringdown
10-20-2011, 08:53 PM
Illuminating quotes from the late and not so great Steve Jobs:


"You're headed for a one-term presidency," he told Obama at the start of their meeting, insisting that the administration needed to be more business-friendly. As an example, Jobs described the ease with which companies can build factories in China compared to the United States, where "regulations and unnecessary costs" make it difficult for them.

Jobs also criticized America's education system, saying it was "crippled by union work rules," noted Isaacson. "Until the teachers' unions were broken, there was almost no hope for education reform." Jobs proposed allowing principals to hire and fire teachers based on merit, that schools stay open until 6 p.m. and that they be open 11 months a year.

Steve Jobs Biography Reveals He Told American workers, "Drop dead." (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/20/steve-jobs-biography-obama_n_1022786.html)

Drachen
10-20-2011, 09:30 PM
So then, will the new hipster mantra be to repeal environmental and safety regulations while dismantling worker's rights?

coyotes_geek
10-20-2011, 09:43 PM
Anyone who dares to criticize our nation's educational system or burdensome regulations must be demonized.

DarrinS
10-20-2011, 10:58 PM
Capt. Bringdown,

You fail

ChuckD
10-20-2011, 10:59 PM
Why the fuck did he care about regulation in the USA when he just off-shored the Apple work to China anyway?

PublicOption
10-20-2011, 11:31 PM
Illuminating quotes from the late and not so great Steve Jobs:



Steve Jobs Biography Reveals He Told American workers, "Drop dead." (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/20/steve-jobs-biography-obama_n_1022786.html)

In other words, "If I could pay my works $50.00 a week, like I do in China, America would be better of and more competitive(....and I can stay filthy rich).

Fuck You, Jobs.

Nbadan
10-20-2011, 11:32 PM
Steve Jobs was a genius innovator, but he could have build his technology in the US and improved the lives of millions of Americans...he made the choice to build his shit a lot cheaper somewhere else...like every other businessman he put the interest of his investors above the interests of American workers....bet he's regretting that right now....

:puke

FuzzyLumpkins
10-20-2011, 11:45 PM
Steve Jobs was a genius innovator, but he could have build his technology in the US and improved the lives of millions of Americans...he made the choice to build his shit a lot cheaper somewhere else...like every other businessman he put the interest of his investors above the interests of American workers....bet he's regretting that right now....

:puke

All those shitty batteries and hard drives are his progeny of cost control. They made a conscious decision that it was easier to deal with recalls then to actually QC the batteries.

And if by innovation you mean select sans sarif font by default then i agree. He didn't invent the GUI, portable MP3 player, honeycomb, flash etc. He put them in nice packages.

Marketer? You bet.

Artist? Sure why not.

Innovator? Nope

MaNuMaNiAc
10-20-2011, 11:47 PM
Steve Jobs was a genius innovator, but he could have build his technology in the US and improved the lives of millions of Americans...he made the choice to build his shit a lot cheaper somewhere else...like every other businessman he put the interest of his investors above the interests of American workers....bet he's regretting that right now....

:puke

yeah, evil petty business man that knows how to make a profit!

Nbadan
10-20-2011, 11:57 PM
All those shitty batteries and hard drives are his progeny of cost control. They made a conscious decision that it was easier to deal with recalls then to actually QC the batteries.

And if by innovation you mean select sans sarif font by default then i agree. He didn't invent the GUI, portable MP3 player, honeycomb, flash etc. He put them in nice packages.

Marketer? You bet.

Artist? Sure why not.

Innovator? Nope

I disagree..its very easy for businesses to get complacent and not take chances...the fact that anyone could have done what both Gates and Jobs did does not belittle the fact that nobody else but them did...that takes vision and cheepazz..that's what businesses need but most don't have - a visionary leader ...and to put his vision to practical application Jobs had to be very innovative...I just think he could have helped more people here in the process instead of some foreign sweat shop.....in that, he failed big time....

Capt Bringdown
10-21-2011, 12:17 AM
Anyone who dares to criticize our nation's educational system or burdensome regulations must be demonized.

LOL, I make no claim as to what anyone "must," a snide and misleading comment on your part.

redzero
10-21-2011, 03:04 AM
bet he's regretting that right now...

I bet he isn't doing anything right now.

DarrinS
10-21-2011, 07:55 AM
Why the fuck did he care about regulation in the USA when he just off-shored the Apple work to China anyway?

I think you answered your own question.

Drachen
10-21-2011, 07:58 AM
I bet he isn't doing anything right now.

I agree, he is probably just lying around.

baseline bum
10-21-2011, 08:33 AM
Steve Jobs was a genius innovator, but he could have build his technology in the US and improved the lives of millions of Americans...he made the choice to build his shit a lot cheaper somewhere else...like every other businessman he put the interest of his investors above the interests of American workers....bet he's regretting that right now....

:puke

How do you regret something when you're 6 feet in the ground?

mingus
10-21-2011, 08:51 AM
The OP believes in an afterlife, is what you can infer by that.

Drachen
10-21-2011, 08:52 AM
NBADAN believes in an afterlife, is what you can infer by that.

fify

desflood
10-21-2011, 08:56 AM
Jobs also criticized America's education system, saying it was "crippled by union work rules," noted Isaacson. "Until the teachers' unions were broken, there was almost no hope for education reform." Jobs proposed allowing principals to hire and fire teachers based on merit.
He was right about one thing.

boutons_deux
10-21-2011, 10:01 AM
Steve Jobs Said He'd 'Go Thermonuclear War' On Google Over iPhone 'Theft'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/20/steve-jobs-google-grand-theft_n_1023111.html?utm_source=DailyBrief&utm_campaign=102111&utm_medium=email&utm_content=NewsEntry&utm_term=Daily%20Brief

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Lots of inside stuff coming on SJ, including from his own mouth.

hater
10-21-2011, 10:04 AM
LOL Jobs, Trump, etc

egomaniacs giving advice on education and politics

baseline bum
10-21-2011, 10:13 AM
LOL @ Apple claiming theft when their whole Macintosh concept was pirated from Xerox.

Capt Bringdown
10-21-2011, 10:19 AM
In addition to the usual Billionaire Boys Club anti-Union blather, Jobs’ comments essentially repudiate Democracy and endorse a Communist/Authoritarian regulatory structure as THE desirable business environment, and yet he’s hailed as a visionary hero. Just another 1%er spewing bollocks IMO.

hater
10-21-2011, 10:22 AM
LOL @ Apple claiming theft when their whole Macintosh concept was pirated from Xerox.

yup. don't forget Jobs also stole the ipad from Xerox

http://macintoshuser.up.seesaa.net/image/dynabook.jpg

http://askglenn.com.au/files/2011/03/Tablets-1968-Dynabook.png

lefty
10-21-2011, 10:45 AM
How so?

iPad doesnt have a physical keyboard

boutons_deux
10-21-2011, 10:47 AM
HP did a pad in the early 2000s. iPad isn't at all an original concept, just a good iteration propelled by the anything-Apple-is-cool culture effect.

CosmicCowboy
10-21-2011, 11:40 AM
:wow @ the Apple hate in here.

lefty
10-21-2011, 12:51 PM
Apple is King


Apple is cool


Deal with it

FuzzyLumpkins
10-21-2011, 03:01 PM
How so?

iPad doesnt have a physical keyboard

When they talk about honeycomb tech thats that. Capacitive touch screens have been around forever. Touch screen handhelds were hardly his idea.

He put the Apple logo on it and voila. ITS BRAND NEW!!

His real innovation was the business deal he had with the RMAA or whatever those fucks are that oversee copyright for iTunes. That deal was innovation if the tech to implement it was not.

Also Apple gets an extra special fuck you for their IPR practices over the last decade. Hopefully this recent to the patent office reform helps. Want to make some bucks with a science or engineering degree then go into IPR laws. That certification is going to be even more gold over the next decade.

z0sa
10-21-2011, 04:25 PM
Jobs proposed allowing principals to hire and fire teachers based on merit,

that's a start

FuzzyLumpkins
10-21-2011, 05:09 PM
Jobs proposed allowing principals to hire and fire teachers based on merit,

that's a start

Too bad they legislated against collective bargaining over money in Wisconsin instead of that.

Wild Cobra
10-21-2011, 05:50 PM
In other words, "If I could pay my works $50.00 a week, like I do in China, America would be better of and more competitive(....and I can stay filthy rich).

Fuck You, Jobs.
How do you get the wage issue from him saying "regulations and unnecessary costs?"

Why do liberals interject their own bias into what others say?

Nbadan
10-21-2011, 05:55 PM
Jobs proposed allowing principals to hire and fire teachers based on merit,

that's a start

You seriously want to give tyrannical principals the ability to hire and fire at whim...

:lmao

..you guys know nothing about education....go be a sub for a year or two...

Wild Cobra
10-21-2011, 05:56 PM
LOL @ Apple claiming theft when their whole Macintosh concept was pirated from Xerox.
Seeing a GUI and making one yourself is not the quite the same as stealing it. His engineers designed all their own software.

What you are saying would be the same as saying that all automakers stole from the first car designer.

Nbadan
10-21-2011, 05:59 PM
Seeing a GUI and making one yourself is not the quite the same as stealing it. His engineers designed all their own software.

What you are saying would be the same as saying that all automakers stole from the first car designer.

Exactly. Others may have came up with the GUI concept first, but it was very imperfect and these Corporations chose not to invest for R&D for these projects....

Wild Cobra
10-21-2011, 06:03 PM
Exactly. Others may have came up with the GUI concept first, but it was very imperfect and these Corporations chose not to invest for R&D for these projects....
I liked the Amiga concept of a GUI. When the first "Windows" computer came out, it was so lame compared to what I was used to.

FuzzyLumpkins
10-21-2011, 06:06 PM
You seriously want to give tyrannical principals the ability to hire and fire at whim...

:lmao

..you guys know nothing about education....go be a sub for a year or two...

The thing is that they should be held to the same standard as well. Using collective bargaining to entrench yourself like that is weak.

FuzzyLumpkins
10-21-2011, 06:07 PM
Seeing a GUI and making one yourself is not the quite the same as stealing it. His engineers designed all their own software.

What you are saying would be the same as saying that all automakers stole from the first car designer.

According to the Apple patents put forth that would be copyright infringement. His own company argues the other way.

Nbadan
10-21-2011, 06:09 PM
I liked the Amiga concept of a GUI. When the first "Windows" computer came out, it was so lame compared to what I was used to.

Even in the first versions of windows the little arrow would tend to bounce all other the place...drove a lot of people back to Linux...

SnakeBoy
10-21-2011, 06:54 PM
Even in the first versions of windows the little arrow would tend to bounce all other the place...drove a lot of people back to Linux...

???...Linux didn't exist when the first version of windows came out.

Nbadan
10-21-2011, 06:59 PM
I was referring to the predecessor of Linux, Unix.....same thing to me...

Nbadan
10-21-2011, 07:00 PM
many people went back to basic too...

Agloco
10-22-2011, 02:18 PM
Illuminating quotes from the late and not so great Steve Jobs:



Steve Jobs Biography Reveals He Told American workers, "Drop dead." (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/20/steve-jobs-biography-obama_n_1022786.html)

Posted via mobile iPhone no doubt.

DarrinS
10-22-2011, 02:32 PM
Xerox built the Alto in 1973 and didn't give Jobs a demo until about 1979. Xerox execs didn't have the vision that Jobs had. Fortunately for some of the engineers at PARC, Jobs hired them to develop the Mac.