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LkrFan
10-21-2011, 04:23 AM
The players won't start missing paychecks until next month, and they have almost $200 million returned to them from escrow to tide them over for a bit. As Spurs owner Peter Holt reportedly said during negotiations, the players haven't felt enough pain yet.


Adam Silver and the Spurs' Peter Holt said the owners don't intend to budge on a 50/50 BRI split.


The union side claims Holt told the players: "Take it or leave it."

LINK (http://http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/CBA-fallout-111020/nba-lockout-lack-deal-not-too-surprising)

What kind of shit is that? Then he went on with Stern and lied talking about the players walked out of negotiations. Many media outlets are saying that is untrue.

I thought the Spurs' organization was classy? :depressed
Koolaid_Man
10-21-2011, 05:23 AM
LINK (http://http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/CBA-fallout-111020/nba-lockout-lack-deal-not-too-surprising)

What kind of shit is that? Then he went on with Stern and lied talking about the players walked out of negotiations. Many media outlets are saying that is untrue.

I thought the Spurs' organization was classy? :depressed


bout as classy as short people:

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TheManFromAcme
10-21-2011, 07:58 AM
Good going Mr. Holt :tu
benefactor
10-21-2011, 08:54 AM
lol Holt and Sarver
lol shit contracts to shit players
lol demanding that money back
baseline bum
10-21-2011, 09:00 AM
Holt needs a bailout from those toxic assets he bought last summer tbh.
cheguevara
10-21-2011, 09:02 AM
:lmao Holt just trying to get rid of RJ and dragging entire NBA to get it done :lmao
lefty
10-21-2011, 09:04 AM
Hold is a cheap ass bastard



Stern, relocate the Spurs to L.A !
xellos88330
10-21-2011, 10:52 AM
:d
mystargtr34
10-21-2011, 11:06 AM
:lmao Holt just trying to get rid of RJ and dragging entire NBA to get it done :lmao

:lol
Leetonidas
10-21-2011, 12:00 PM
Like Spurs fans even like Holt :lmao
boutons_deux
10-21-2011, 12:39 PM
Holt isn't the owner, he's the rep of the investor group that owns the Spurs.
FromWayDowntown
10-21-2011, 01:05 PM
Holt isn't the owner, he's the rep of the investor group that owns the Spurs.

True. Undoubtedly, he speaks only for his ownership group and most likely for the tallest of the investors in that group, David Robinson.

Therefore, it's clear to me that David Robinson is to blame for the current labor strife.
baseline bum
10-21-2011, 01:07 PM
True. Undoubtedly, he speaks only for his ownership group and most likely for the tallest of the investors in that group, David Robinson.

Therefore, it's clear to me that David Robinson is to blame for the current labor strife.

Oh man, now we're going to get trolled with David Robinson chasing Billy Hunter and Fisher around with a bible during negotiations.
FromWayDowntown
10-21-2011, 01:11 PM
I think the owners should offer to amend the CBA to permit players to have ownership stakes in the teams and then remind the players that they're now bargaining against themselves.
Dex
10-21-2011, 01:38 PM
And I thought it wasn't possible to hate Jefferson and Bonner more than I already did...:pctoss
Juggity
10-21-2011, 03:07 PM
Holt is actually kind of a fuckbag. I've never really liked the guy.
Giuseppe
10-21-2011, 03:23 PM
^He's saying what he's been told to say. He's just the messenger.
DPG21920
10-21-2011, 06:04 PM
Shhhh, girl.
ChumpDumper
10-21-2011, 06:21 PM
lol tragic
DMC
10-21-2011, 07:43 PM
Must I always have to sift through the bullshit just to bring clarity to you assholes. Holt is being selfish here. Hes trying to relive the past by purposely shortening the season so his team has a shot at winning another asterisk title like in '99. He knows that the average person doesnt remember tragic events beyond 10 years, so why not try to cash in while everyone is sleep, again.
It looks different from every angle. From where I sit, it looks like there's a lockout anytime the LA team to beat becomes the Dodgers or the Clippers. With neither Boston nor LA running the table these days, the NBA isn't making any money because the bandwagon fans that are a huge majority of LA's crowd turn to other things like coffee house sex and Frasier reruns.

Laker fans should be thankful for the lockout. Otherwise you get to watch your hero wither away under the tutelage of Mike Brown.
DUNCANownsKOBE
10-21-2011, 08:05 PM
Oh man, now we're going to get trolled with David Robinson chasing Billy Hunter and Fisher around with a bible during negotiations.
:lmao
DMC
10-21-2011, 08:42 PM
Tell me more about this coffee house sex.
I'm sure Kevin has a thread about it somewhere.
Dunc n Dave
10-21-2011, 09:57 PM
Oh man, now we're going to get trolled with David Robinson chasing Billy Hunter and Fisher around with a bible during negotiations.

More like having Bible studies WITH Derek Fisher.

http://www.cbn.com/700club/guests/interviews/Derek_Fisher102209.aspx
4>0rings
10-21-2011, 10:01 PM
Holt going out BOSS STYLE. Holt doesn't need the NBA. The players do though.
DMX7
10-22-2011, 09:42 AM
lol, the 700 CLub
nevitt_&_smrek
10-23-2011, 06:26 PM
Needs to stop giving mind-boggling contract (extension) offers to certain players. These owners can't seem to help themselves. It's amazing how clueless they can be.
DMC
10-23-2011, 07:49 PM
A few years ago the RJ connection seemed like a golden deal. Since he's been pretty much ineffective with the game style the Spurs have been forced to run, it seems to be not a good deal. It could turn around however.
Giuseppe
10-23-2011, 08:31 PM
A few years ago the RJ connection seemed like a golden deal. Since he's been pretty much ineffective with the game style the Spurs have been forced to run, it seems to be not a good deal. It could turn around however.

& you ain't off the mark in my estimation. He always seems & looks on the precipice of being good. He honestly looks fine being shitty. It's right there. He just can't keep hold of it.
nevitt_&_smrek
10-23-2011, 08:41 PM
A few years ago the RJ connection seemed like a golden deal. Since he's been pretty much ineffective with the game style the Spurs have been forced to run, it seems to be not a good deal. It could turn around however.

It shouldn't take much to realize RJ (particularly an older version) isn't worth it. Call it a sixth sense or instinct. No need for stats. Same thing for owners that offer Arenas over $100 million. There are plenty of other examples out there.
ElNono
10-23-2011, 08:44 PM
^^^ tired old shitbag Kobe getting a $90 million extension is another good example...
DPG21920
10-23-2011, 08:45 PM
:lol EL NONO
nevitt_&_smrek
10-23-2011, 08:55 PM
^^^ tired old shitbag Kobe getting a $90 million extension is another good example...

In terms of restricting the team's cap space and roster flexibility, no doubt. But in economic terms, let's say Buss gets 50% ROI on that $90M. I don't know exactly what it is, but Kobe is one of the few superstars that can generate a healthy level of profit.

Joe Johnson might be a nice guy, (and apparently the Hawks owner(s) really likes him), but I get the sense he's not one of those few superstars. What do you think?
ElNono
10-23-2011, 09:07 PM
Buss isn't getting 50% ROI after The Skunker... it's only going downhill from there...
nevitt_&_smrek
10-23-2011, 09:17 PM
Buss isn't getting 50% ROI after The Skunker... it's only going downhill from there...

And once Duncan leaves, Spurs will be irrelevant for the next 50 years. Enjoy.
ElNono
10-23-2011, 09:28 PM
And once Duncan leaves, Spurs will be irrelevant for the next 50 years. Enjoy.

And once Kobe leaves, even the Mavericks... oh wait...
DPG21920
10-23-2011, 09:39 PM
You mean when Pau leaves?
Giuseppe
10-23-2011, 09:44 PM
Buss isn't getting 50% ROI after The Skunker... it's only going downhill from there...

The Skunker!!!