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Kori Ellis
06-15-2005, 02:24 AM
Buck Harvey: The other side of stardom: Ginobili as the series target
Web Posted: 06/15/2005 12:52 AM CDT

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/columnists/bharvey/stories/MYSA061505.1S.COL.BKNharvey.e6db680.html

San Antonio Express-News

AUBURN HILLS, Mich. — Welcome to stardom, Manu.

Two months ago you could have played as you did Tuesday — and you did sometimes — and no one would have said much.

That was the beauty of your rise from the second round in the draft. No one expected you to be Kobe.

But then you took over in the playoffs, amazing with every frenetic drive, and you crossed a line. You became too good. You made covers of magazines, as well as the lead on sports pages across America, which is why Game 3 hits you as no game has yet.

Normally Tim Duncan and his 5-of-15 shooting would have been the story.

Today, you are.

The Pistons should be. They played like the defending champions that they are. The Wallaces were beasts, Tayshaun Prince showed up and Rip Hamilton came off screens, faster and cleaner, beating Bruce Bowen to spots.

"We figured out," Larry Brown said afterward, "how hard we have to play."

But the Spurs made it easier, too, and you started it all. Inbounding to begin the game — after a Detroit violation on the opening tip — you threw a pass that Ben Wallace saw coming all the way from Buenos Aires.

Steal, fast break, dunk, a Spurs foul and a three-point play.

Had you punted the ball into the stands, the crowd wouldn't have gotten any crazier.

Then came the usual pain for El Contusion, when one of your thighs took another hit. You try to prevent these injuries, but the elastic thigh pads you wear aren't thick enough. Ever think of football equipment?

You needed armor Tuesday. You fell to the floor a minute into the game, and you limped off looking the way Duncan did here in March.

Duncan was out for six weeks. You came back in and were never the same.

Was the injury a factor?

"A little bit. It was hard for me to come back into the game after being on the bench for a couple of minutes. My leg gets cold. But I just didn't play well. It's not a matter of finding excuses. I just didn't make shots. I turned the ball over a lot. That's it."

That's it, all right. You ended with one more point than turnovers, but even that sounds better than it was. You got two points off Detroit technical fouls.

One turnover came late in the third quarter, when the Pistons began a surge. And another came early in the fourth, when Gregg Popovich actually asked you to do more.

Isn't this another sign of stardom? Your coach doesn't care if you are struggling.

Popovich, getting nothing from Beno Udrih, moved you to point guard to give Tony Parker a rest. But another turnover followed, Chauncey Billups scored on a fast break and Detroit went up by nine points.

You struggled at times in the regular season, such as in April when injuries were also bothering you. A 1-of-8 night in a loss to Denver was one, a 1-of-9 night in a loss in Dallas was another.

No one said much of it then. But Tuesday, you were escorted to the Finals podium, and when the Pistons were interviewed they were asked about you.

What did you do to stop Ginobili?

"We just tried to pressure him," Hamilton said. "We just didn't want him to get out front, allow him to dribble, you know, allow him to make plays for his teammates."

Brown, asked the same, put it in better perspective. "I don't know if it was about holding Ginobili. I think, as a whole, we defended great."

Meaning: The other Spurs, outside of Parker, also struggled.

But your status doesn't allow for perspective, and you said as much Tuesday. "It's way much more attention than I would like. You know, I'm a calm guy. I like to rest and don't think about anything else. We talk too much about the way I play or things like that. Of course, I'm happy because I have been playing well, and I've got to be satisfied because of that. But I'm trying not to think a lot about what people are saying."

People are saying different things today.

But that's what happens on this stage. Fame changes expectations, and this is part of the next step in your career.

You will hear this, too.

About how stars usually react after bad games.

whottt
06-15-2005, 02:30 AM
Buck scares me sometimes...this reads like a mocking version of "this is your life".

MaNuMaNiAc
06-15-2005, 02:46 AM
I think this is right on the money. Manu should get used to these kinds of articles when he plays like he did today. Too bad for Manu, but more importantly too dbad for the spurs

whottt
06-15-2005, 02:49 AM
He was dinged, the 1a best defensive team in the NBA was determined to keep him out of the paint...it happens. It'll happen again before his career is done...he could have just chucked up shots if he wanted to score more points, then the hype would have continued no matter what PCT he shot. I don't think the outcome of the game would have been much different though...it might have been worse.

All those TO's did suck though...

constantstate
06-15-2005, 02:54 AM
this is the kind of stuff we should be hearing more of. manu isn't the only reason we lost, but after the kind of playoffs he's had and the kind of player he is... this is about as much respect as they give you in the nba. how he bounces back will make him an mvp or not. he did it in the euroleague... and been that just about everywhere else he's been... he can do it.

MaNuMaNiAc
06-15-2005, 02:54 AM
Manu is going to be alright. I hope the comments of some overexited idiots don't affect him that much. If he brings his "A" game on game 4, he'll be alright.

TheTruth
06-15-2005, 03:11 AM
Manu and the rest of the guards were making some bad entry passes to Timmy. As long as they clean up their passing and don't stop attacking the middle of the detroit d things will be alright. And the Refs need to start calling the Detroit big men for moving screens. Its not the reason we lost, but they were doing it all night.

beirmeistr
06-15-2005, 09:24 AM
Manu is the antithesis of Ray Allen. Even if he is hurt, he will not blame the injury for his poor play. I am concerned that his thigh injury is worse than people think, and that he might not be up to par for game 4. If that is the case, Pop might have to use him off the bench. I hope I am wrong and he recovers enough to be productive in game 4.

spurschick
06-15-2005, 10:10 AM
Manu is going to be alright. I hope the comments of some overexited idiots don't affect him that much. If he brings his "A" game on game 4, he'll be alright.

This is Manu we're talking about. He doesn't let comments like this affect him. You can tell that he's more disappointed in himself than anyone and he will more than make up for it in game 4. Since he played so well in games 1 & 2, I couldn't really be too pissed at him last night. Everyone is entitled to a bad game now and then and somebody else needed to step up last night. Unfortunately, it never really happened.