iPhone 4s or Samsung Galaxy S II

[TDMVPDPOY]

90% because PC'S are cheaper


PC is for poor people


Apple is for the good looking and rich people



Don't be bitter

pc might be for ppor ppl, but how many of them actually need a IPS monitor? which is nearly half the system

[labuski]

90% because PC'S are cheaper


PC is for poor people


Apple is for the good looking and rich people



Don't be bitter


lol you got took for paying that much

VICTIM

[Cry Havoc]

90% because PC'S are cheaper


PC is for poor people


Apple is for the good looking and rich people



Don't be bitter

http://i.imgur.com/hodi9.jpg

My poor old worthless Windows computer. :depressed

[leemajors]

http://www.pcworld.com/article/244067/taskkiller_apps_will_they_help_or_hurt_your_batter y_life.html

[hater]

90% because PC'S are cheaper


PC is for poor people


Apple is for the good looking and rich people



Don't be bitter

:lol lefty butthurt :lol

[resistanze]

Was buying blank CDs on my way home and a Case-mate Barely There (http://www.case-mate.com/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-Cases-International/Case-Mate-Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-Barely-There-Cases.asp) caught my eye for my S2. I opened it and tried it on and said what the hell, it's 16 bucks.

Excellent thin case, the only one I see myself having for an extended period of time.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

OK. So, this morning I get this text
" AT&T Free Msg: Your data usage is among the top 5% of users. Data speeds for the rest of your current bill cycle may be reduced. Visit www.att.com/dataplans."
From att, of course and immediately I'm annoyed. I'm grandfathered into the unlimited data plan but did me going to LTE affect it? I wish that dumb sonofabitch of a "salesman" would've told me that. LTE is new for them. You'd think they'd make it pretty damn known that my data would be affected.......

[Viva Las Espuelas]

I'm bottlenecking like a bitch right now. Someone at att is getting leaned into today......

[stretch]

geez how much data did you actually use?

[leemajors]

I'm bottlenecking like a bitch right now. Someone at att is getting leaned into today......

you're not gonna get anywhere, they can throttle you. I think Sprint is the only one who doesn't. I bet they offer $5 off your bill or something stupid.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

geez how much data did you actually use?
I don't know because it says I just switched my data plan and I can't look it up. That leads me to believe that this LTE either knocked out my grandfathered unlimited data plan somehow, someway.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

you're not gonna get anywhere, they can throttle you. I think Sprint is the only one who doesn't. I bet they offer $5 off your bill or something stupid.

I really have no problem with them doing that because if that's what they think is good for their business then fine. I have a problem with them not bringing it to my attention and having the option to accept it or decline. I wouldn't have upgraded if I'd known this beforehand.

[leemajors]

I really have no problem with them doing that because if that's what they think is good for their business then fine. I have a problem with them not bringing it to my attention and having the option to accept it or decline. I wouldn't have upgraded if I'd known this beforehand.

gotta read the fine print.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Well I did a little research on the Google. Apparently, its not an LTE stipulation but an overall cap specifically designed for the people still with unlimited data plans or should I say "unlimited" data plans. Even so, what they spelled out about this 5% BS isn't being followed out to the letter. "Before you are affected, we will provide multiple notices, including a grace period." Horse puckey!!!! I got that text this morning, I'd done a speedtest before, used to get 15.5Mbps on the DL and now I get .2!!! .2. I know that throws off people like hater, but yeah--now I'm downloading at a little over two-tenths of a Mbps. Grace period, my ass!

[MannyIsGod]

Damn, thats harsh.

[stretch]

Well I did a little research on the Google. Apparently, its not an LTE stipulation but an overall cap specifically designed for the people still with unlimited data plans or should I say "unlimited" data plans. Even so, what they spelled out about this 5% BS isn't being followed out to the letter. "Before you are affected, we will provide multiple notices, including a grace period." Horse puckey!!!! I got that text this morning, I'd done a speedtest before, used to get 15.5Mbps on the DL and now I get .2!!! .2. I know that throws off people like hater, but yeah--now I'm downloading at a little over two-tenths of a Mbps. Grace period, my ass!

:lmao

[Drachen]

.2? Dude, that SUCKS!

[Viva Las Espuelas]

And I rounded that up.

[hater]

:lol you signed the contract right? why you bitching?

this is like installing windows 7 on a pentium and bitching about it :lmao

[Cry Havoc]

:lol you signed the contract right? why you bitching?

this is like installing windows 7 on a pentium and bitching about it :lmao

I would have made the same mistake, and assumed that I would be grandfathered in.

Look at what you've done. You're making me defend Viva.

[resistanze]

Is there a cooling off period where you can revert to old plan (probably not)?

[Nathan Explosion]

:lol you signed the contract right? why you bitching?

this is like installing windows 7 on a pentium and bitching about it :lmao

Or iOS 4 on an iPhone 3G.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Is there a cooling off period where you can revert to old plan (probably not)?

Nah. There's no cooling off period because I have my same contracted unlimited data plan I've always had. Att just made that 5% crap to, I guess, recover their losses from the unlimited plan in the first place. I didn't sign a new contract. Only my credit card receipt which had no fine print or "see terms" on it.

[leemajors]

Is there a cooling off period where you can revert to old plan (probably not)?

I believe almost all of the US cell companies will throttle you outside of Sprint once you reach a certain point. "Unlimited (But..)"

[Viva Las Espuelas]

I read Sprint is not too far behind putting a cap in place

[TDMVPDPOY]

dunno the max sd card mem the sg2 can hold, but ive seen ppl buy sd cards class-10 which are the expensive ones just to play blue ray files on their phones...

[resistanze]

I know people have installed 64GB sd cards in S2s successfully. I bought a 32GB class 4 as they're actually better for random access/read/write speeds than class 10 cards.

[TDMVPDPOY]

im thinkn of jumpin the gun and gettin one...

[stretch]

if you have had struggles with battery life with the GS2, I think it may have something to do with TouchWiz UI. I recently started using ADW Launcher, and my battery life has been MUCH better ever since. I've been using the ICS theme.

[stretch]

I have even had the brightness level higher, just to test, and my battery life is still considerably better.

[resistanze]

if you have had struggles with battery life with the GS2, I think it may have something to do with TouchWiz UI. I recently started using ADW Launcher, and my battery life has been MUCH better ever since. I've been using the ICS theme.

It's a combination of TouchWiz and unoptimized Samsung programs they instal on Android. Currently I'm using a ROM with a custom touchwiz and an optimized kernel, and I still have 50% battery life right now (charged last 13 hours ago).

The TouchWiz add on for ICS for the galaxy SII looks HORRENDOUS, Jesus. I really hope this alpha leak is bullshit. Google really needs to tighten up their shit.

ISAI6qbQm6U

[leemajors]

Google really needs to tighten up their shit.

that's counter to the Android philosophy, no?

[resistanze]

that's counter to the Android philosophy, no?

Of course, their goal is to be on as most devices as possible. I like that they don't have an iron grip on the sotware, but they need to strike a balance. Unfortunately no mobile OS at the moment has found that perfect balance. Luckily if you're someone who likes to customize your phone, you can strike that balance yourself with Android.

[resistanze]

Cot damn I'm running a custom kernel (Siyah 2.5.1) with a ondemand CPU profile (throttles down to 200Mhz when phone is asleep). I have 52% battery left and I took my phone off the charger at 6:30AM (it's 9:45PM).

[Drachen]

Cot damn I'm running a custom kernel (Siyah 2.5.1) with a ondemand CPU profile (throttles down to 200Mhz when phone is asleep). I have 52% battery left and I took my phone off the charger at 6:30AM (it's 9:45PM).

I have been running Warm 2.3 Rls1 on my evo 3d for about a week now and I am at 40% with and took it off of the charger about 11 and a half hours ago. There is a kernel (anthrax) that everyone on the e3d forums is talking about and extended battery life is one of its benefits, but I can't seem to make myself do it. I have a pretty sweet setup right now and am pretty satisfied. My worst day since switching to this ROM has been 12.5 hours, but that was with a fair amount of gaming.

[Agloco]

I have been running Warm 2.3 Rls1 on my evo 3d for about a week now and I am at 40% with and took it off of the charger about 11 and a half hours ago. There is a kernel (anthrax) that everyone on the e3d forums is talking about and extended battery life is one of its benefits, but I can't seem to make myself do it. I have a pretty sweet setup right now and am pretty satisfied. My worst day since switching to this ROM has been 12.5 hours, but that was with a fair amount of gaming.

You'll have to show me what that's all about. I'm afraid to f-up my phone.

[Drachen]

You'll have to show me what that's all about. I'm afraid to f-up my phone.

not a problem, it is pretty painless. You have a E3d?

edit: I forgot to add to my post above that I almost always have WiMax on 100% of the time (I have today).

[resistanze]

I have been running Warm 2.3 Rls1 on my evo 3d for about a week now and I am at 40% with and took it off of the charger about 11 and a half hours ago. There is a kernel (anthrax) that everyone on the e3d forums is talking about and extended battery life is one of its benefits, but I can't seem to make myself do it. I have a pretty sweet setup right now and am pretty satisfied. My worst day since switching to this ROM has been 12.5 hours, but that was with a fair amount of gaming.

Yeah that's pretty decent. Personally all I've done on my phone today was make 3-4 phone calls, surf the web and FB/Twitter/Linkedin.

But really, all I'm waiting for is a stable release CM9, which I know will take some time when the coders get a hold of a better leak.

[Drachen]

Yeah that's pretty decent. Personally all I've done on my phone today was make 3-4 phone calls, surf the web and FB/Twitter/Linkedin.

But really, all I'm waiting for is a stable release CM9, which I know will take some time when the coders get a hold of a better leak.

For my phone I am fine with GB for now. Do I want ICS? Absolutely, but I am not feening for it. On my TP however, I would really appreciate it so that I can take advantage of "honeycomb" apps (tablet specific). The first one that I will DL is the asus supernote app. Best looking app that I have seen and absolutely everything I could ask for in a note taking app.

[leemajors]

Well shit, my 4 hit the ground face down and for the first time the case didn't help (it has raised edges) and it cracked. I guess it's a 4s for me, and I get this one repaired and reimbursed through USAA's damage protection on World Mastercards and I either sell it to my brother cheap (so he can facetime with my daughter, he has a 3gs) or hack it with the new untethered hack and sell it for $250. I had dropped it the same way plenty of times before, guess it just gave out. Served me well for 18 months.

[lefty]

Well shit, my 4 hit the ground face down and for the first time the case didn't help (it has raised edges) and it cracked. I guess it's a 4s for me, and I get this one repaired and reimbursed through USAA's damage protection on World Mastercards and I either sell it to my brother cheap (so he can facetime with my daughter, he has a 3gs) or hack it with the new untethered hack and sell it for $250. I had dropped it the same way plenty of times before, guess it just gave out. Served me well for 18 months.
Aw shit


You'll get useless Siri I guess :lol

[hater]

Aw shit


You'll get useless Siri I guess :lol

:lmao but I thought Siri was the next Apple home run?

:lmao

[Drachen]

:lmao but I thought Siri was the next Apple home run?

:lmao

I think that he was being sarcastic.

[hater]

I think that he was being sarcastic.

lefty is a fanboy. You know damn well all the fanboys actually believed Siri was gonna revolutionize the way you interact with your phone

:lmao Beta version

[leemajors]

Siri is pretty damn sweet, especially for stuff like setting alarms, sending texts, and notes/reminders but damn does it drain the fucking battery esp with location services on.

[Drachen]

Siri is pretty damn sweet, especially for stuff like setting alarms, sending texts, and notes/reminders but damn does it drain the fucking battery esp with location services on.

It really sucks for android that google isn't advertising these features. It has been out forever and just today at work a girl saw a SIRI commercial, said "I can't wait to get that phone so I can do that", I said "yeah, its been on my Android phone for a year and a half, it's great!". She said "not on my evo". So I asked for her phone, asked her what the name of one of her friends was then held down the search button and as soon as it popped up said "send text to wayne when are we getting together" sure enough the window popped up exactly like I said it and asked "send"? She says "I have owned this phone since it first came out and had no clue."


All of that to say, I agree with you. A voice commanded interface is great on a phone.

[MannyIsGod]

Wish I could use voice go operate google music.

[Drachen]

Oh, I don't know if anyone has seen this, but the newest version of swype has replaced the microphone button with the Nuance logo. Real time Dragon dictation is now embedded into that keyboard.

[Drachen]

Wish I could use voice go operate google music.

This isn't a perfect solution but you can say "Play I am I" (this is a Queensryche song) and it will first ask you to select which app to use (I checked default and selected google music) then it will bring up the google music app and go to I am I, but then you have to press it for it to play

[resistanze]

Running CM9 experimental build on my S2, it's pretty good. Almost everything works except video recording and some issues with MTP. Also ICS animations/transitions aren't as silky smooth as they'll probably be on the final build.

[Drachen]

Running CM9 experimental build on my S2, it's pretty good. Almost everything works except video recording and some issues with MTP. Also ICS animations/transitions aren't as silky smooth as they'll probably be on the final build.

Wimax and camera aren't working on the build for E3d, so I probably won't convert until that is rectified. On the TP, however, I will move over once I get a semi stable build.

[TheMACHINE]

It really sucks for android that google isn't advertising these features. It has been out forever and just today at work a girl saw a SIRI commercial, said "I can't wait to get that phone so I can do that", I said "yeah, its been on my Android phone for a year and a half, it's great!". She said "not on my evo". So I asked for her phone, asked her what the name of one of her friends was then held down the search button and as soon as it popped up said "send text to wayne when are we getting together" sure enough the window popped up exactly like I said it and asked "send"? She says "I have owned this phone since it first came out and had no clue."


All of that to say, I agree with you. A voice commanded interface is great on a phone.

lol girls

[4>0rings]

I've always had Android phones but I would like to try out the Iphone. Though most of the specs are better for the Galaxy II plus has 4g, Apple generally has a better app store and is more user friendly. I don't have brand loyalty for phones.

Decisions, decisions.

[resistanze]

I've always had Android phones but I would like to try out the Iphone. Though most of the specs are better for the Galaxy II plus has 4g, Apple generally has a better app store and is more user friendly. I don't have brand loyalty for phones.

Decisions, decisions.

I've used both, I prefer Android, but you'll be fine with either, tbh. Try it out at an apple store first if you haven't already.

[resistanze]

The default Android keyboard for ICS is money. No need for Smart keyboard or SwiftKey, imo.

[TheMACHINE]

yah the ICS keyboard is a big upgrade....the browsing experience owns as well.

[stretch]

I've always had Android phones but I would like to try out the Iphone. Though most of the specs are better for the Galaxy II plus has 4g, Apple generally has a better app store and is more user friendly. I don't have brand loyalty for phones.

Decisions, decisions.

I have an iPad2 and my wife has a 4s. For my phone, I have an SGII Skyrocket.

I don't really consider the Apple app store to be much better than Android's, especially for the phone. Everything that I need for my phone, I can get on Android's market, and 90% of them are free, while probably 70-80% of the Apple apps will cost you at least a buck. It's pretty stupid that I had to pay $5 just to get an app on my iPad that can access my computer's media servers, while my Android already came with such an app, and there are several free ones.

After having had quite a while to use all these devices, I personally recommend Android, definitely. The big screen and ability to greatly customize your phone, makes it capable of doing more useful things IMO.

[leemajors]

I have an iPad2 and my wife has a 4s. For my phone, I have an SGII Skyrocket.

I don't really consider the Apple app store to be much better than Android's, especially for the phone. Everything that I need for my phone, I can get on Android's market, and 90% of them are free, while probably 70-80% of the Apple apps will cost you at least a buck. It's pretty stupid that I had to pay $5 just to get an app on my iPad that can access my computer's media servers, while my Android already came with such an app, and there are several free ones.

After having had quite a while to use all these devices, I personally recommend Android, definitely. The big screen and ability to greatly customize your phone, makes it capable of doing more useful things IMO.

Air Video is only $3, and you can even stream media over 3g from your comp. What app are you using to access media on your comp?

[stretch]

I think the one I got was called 8player or something like that. There was one that was free, but only good for 3 plays, then I would have had to pay like $15, so that was pretty stupid.

[leemajors]

You can always turn on Home Sharing in iTunes and just stream stuff from your comp, it works very well. If you use iTunes for media at all.

[leemajors]

Manny, they announced the Nexus for Sprint. No date that I saw.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/09/sprint-gets-4g-lte-and-galaxy-nexus-its-official/

[lefty]

Manny, they announced the Nexus for Sprint. No date that I saw.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/09/sprint-gets-4g-lte-and-galaxy-nexus-its-official/
I think Manny recently bought a Motorola

[MannyIsGod]

Damn. I don't like the lack of a date. If I send back my Photon - which so far I really like - then I'll be in limbo. FML.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Question. And this is for at&t people that get those stupid above average data user texts. I had been getting bottlenecked. I got bottlenecked about two weeks into the cycle but it mysteriously opened up about a week back. I'm still downloading at 13mbps. Kinda weird. Don't know if I'm lucky or what.

[TeyshaBlue]

I think that had more to do with AT&T changing their threshold for "excessive data usage" from who the fuck knows to 3gb/billing period.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Sooooooooooo, I think my last post has been answered. Don't know about it. Didn't read about it, but I got a text yesterday specifying that 5gb is my(?) threshold before being bottlenecked. I'm slightly ok with that. Then again, I really haven't streamed radio as much as I normally do at work this month.

[ElNono]

I got the AT&T warning on my unlimited after using 2.1GB last month since I was out of state and using my slingbox... My next iOS device is going to be Verizon... Even if it's a limited plan, I'm letting AT&T know what I think about their warnings and throttling with my wallet...

[leemajors]

I got the AT&T warning on my unlimited after using 2.1GB last month since I was out of state and using my slingbox... My next iOS device is going to be Verizon... Even if it's a limited plan, I'm letting AT&T know what I think about their warnings and throttling with my wallet...

Verizon throttles as well, don't they?

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Ics???

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Ehhh. Another false alarm.....

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Bastards!

[ElNono]

Verizon throttles as well, don't they?

This was kind of old, but I didn't notice it until now.

Verizon actually throttles based on the tower's congestion. At&T instead puts a cap on your device's max speed until the next billing cycle, regardless of how congested is the network. It's a fucking fraud to get you to switch to a non-unlimited plan.

[TheMACHINE]

Ics???

?

[Heath Ledger]

Ice Cream Sandwich

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Yeah, but apparently it was just an update to fix the last one. Apparently the release is going to be pretty soon. This update was to make sure ICS would update correctly. It did change a couple of things. The screen lock is different and a few of the stock icons have changed.

[leemajors]

Yeah, but apparently it was just an update to fix the last one. Apparently the release is going to be pretty soon. This update was to make sure ICS would update correctly. It did change a couple of things. The screen lock is different and a few of the stock icons have changed.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/25/ics-att-samsung-galaxy-s-ii/

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Finally
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/7/10/3148852/att-galaxy-note-galaxy-s-II-skyrocket-ice-cream-sandwich-update

Yeah yeah, you had this months ago :jack

[resistanze]

Finally
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/7/10/3148852/att-galaxy-note-galaxy-s-II-skyrocket-ice-cream-sandwich-update


I had this months ago!!!

[Viva Las Espuelas]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kburton37/look_at_my_fuckin_balls.jpg?t=1244785509

[lefty]

Well Fuck Apple


http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/7/11/3153357/sprint-confirms-that-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-update-removes-universal

[lefty]

Well Fuck Apple


http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/7/11/3153357/sprint-confirms-that-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-update-removes-universal

[resistanze]

lol mobile software patents

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Hmm. I normally don't bitch over updating things but I'm not caring for ICS that much. I'm using twice the amount of RAM, you can't dim the screen as easily like before and the typing isn't as smooth.

[lefty]

ICS runs smoothly on my HTC One S :D

[TeyshaBlue]

It's kicking ass on my Galaxy Note. Fucking love ICS.

[lefty]

Jelly Bean looks pretty good too


What's next? Cheesecake Cornetto ?


Not only is Google spying on us, they want to make us fat too

[Drachen]

Hmm. I normally don't bitch over updating things but I'm not caring for ICS that much. I'm using twice the amount of RAM, you can't dim the screen as easily like before and the typing isn't as smooth.

what keyboard are you using?

[Drachen]

Jelly Bean looks pretty good too


What's next? Cheesecake Cornetto ?


Not only is Google spying on us, they want to make us fat too

The consensus guess for the next one is Key Lime Pie (they are alphabetical). ... cupcake, donut, eclair, froyo, gingerbread, honeycomb, ice cream sandwhich...

[leemajors]

KETTLE CORN
KIR Royale

[Viva Las Espuelas]

what keyboard are you using?

The android one.

[Drachen]

The android one.

Oh, sorry, I can't help you there. I haven't used the stock android keyboard in probably 3 years.

[lefty]

The consensus guess for the next one is Key Lime Pie (they are alphabetical). ... cupcake, donut, eclair, froyo, gingerbread, honeycomb, ice cream sandwhich...

Lol I didnt even pick up on that

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Oh, sorry, I can't help you there. I haven't used the stock android keyboard in probably 3 years.

Which one do you use?

I type in this space to post here and there's times where what I'm typing doesn't stay on e screen. And I type in landscape mode, so I don't know if that's why it happens or not.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

I'm totally not digging the new browser.

[Drachen]

Which one do you use?

I type in this space to post here and there's times where what I'm typing doesn't stay on e screen. And I type in landscape mode, so I don't know if that's why it happens or not.

I use swype. It is freakin excellent.

As far as the browser, I really liked the stock ICS browser... until chrome came out.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Well I have swype so I'll check that out

I liked the old browser but this one is a little clunky. I didn't know there was a chrome app. I asked that question here a while back why the Google store didn't have a Google browser. I guess they read my post. I'll have to check it out.

[Drachen]

Well I have swype so I'll check that out

I liked the old browser but this one is a little clunky. I didn't know there was a chrome app. I asked that question here a while back why the Google store didn't have a Google browser. I guess they read my post. I'll have to check it out.

I have mentioned it a few times in this forum, you may have glossed it over because it is only for ICS and it just came out about 3 months ago.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

chrome is eh. i'll have to just play around with it. the typing and orientation of the screen and all is kinda screwy

[anakha]

chrome is eh. i'll have to just play around with it. the typing and orientation of the screen and all is kinda screwy

Tried the Chrome beta myself and wasn't too enamored with it.

You can download ICS Browser+ from the Play Store and give it a try. It's kind of an improved version of the stock ICS browser.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

great suggestion :tu :toast