iPhone 4s or Samsung Galaxy S II

[stretch]

which should I get?

and i dont want this to turn into some stupid argument thread about android vs. iphone

i just want to know what is honestly the better phone right now, and which one would i most likely be happy with 2 years from now (aka future potential).

going by the specs, it seems the Galaxy S II has more to offer, but im not nearly as knowledgable as others here.

[Drachen]

which should I get?

and i dont want this to turn into some stupid argument thread about android vs. iphone

i just want to know what is honestly the better phone right now, and which one would i most likely be happy with 2 years from now (aka future potential).

going by the specs, it seems the Galaxy S II has more to offer, but im not nearly as knowledgable as others here.

Despite your desires, this will turn into a trollfest.
For what it's worth, I would prefer the GSII (Or the galaxy Prime if it will be offered on your carrier). I think that both phones will be relatively future proof, I would, however give the edge to the GSII due to the better hardware.

[ElNono]

You should go to a shop and play with both.

Hardware-wise, I'm pretty sure the GS II is a better phone, but the 4S isn't THAT far off.

Software can make all the difference though, and that's why you should go try them out yourself.

[scampers]

GS II is the more powerful phone, but after owning two different Android phones and an iPhone, I strongly prefer iOS to Android. To each his own, though. If you don't have experience with both types of phones, it definitely is best to head to a store and spend a good amount of time playing with them, like others here have said.

[resistanze]

Pretty much what everyone has said in this thread. I used an iPhone for 3 years, and went to the store to play with the Galaxy S II before I bought it. The Galaxy S II is easily the best phone I've every owned and I like the form of the phone as well.

Of course, I never had a chance to use iOS 5 (tried it on my buddy's iPhone 4, not radically different) and I'm sure iPhone 4S is signification better than my 3GS. I do however prefer Android over iOS - it's all personal preference.

[stretch]

i have had both, and am pretty much 50/50 on both OSs. i like androids customizability, but also like the simple yet elequent and polished style of iOS.

hmmm

[Frenzy]

Hater and lefty are foaming at the mouth right now.

[ElNono]

FWIW, I think these days you have a 30 day return period for most phones. They might charge you a restocking fee, but you can walk away from the phone and contract if you aren't sure. Obviously, make sure to find out the exact terms before you buy.

[PM5K]

Don't be a pussy, buy them both.

I don't even know if you can get a 4s right now.

[resistanze]

Hater and lefty are foaming at the mouth right now.

:lol

[leemajors]

FWIW, I think these days you have a 30 day return period for most phones. They might charge you a restocking fee, but you can walk away from the phone and contract if you aren't sure. Obviously, make sure to find out the exact terms before you buy.

I think Apple won't charge restocking within 14 days if you buy directly from them. But El Nono has the best advice overall. Even better if you happen to have friends who have both phones - play around with them and see what you like best.

[lefty]

Hater and lefty are foaming at the mouth right now.
:lol

[cheguevara]

don't need 30 days to decide. go to the store and play with both a good 20 minutes.
- power them off and see which powers on quicker to the point you are on google.com
- check which has faster gps locator
- which screen you like better
- weight/size
- styling

1. GS2 you fully own it and can do anything with it out of the box
2. Iphone you are renting it from Steve Jobs unless you jailbreak it

[stretch]

don't need 30 days to decide. go to the store and play with both a good 20 minutes.
- power them off and see which powers on quicker to the point you are on google.com
- check which has faster gps locator
- which screen you like better
- weight/size
- styling

1. GS2 you fully own it and can do anything with it out of the box
2. Iphone you are renting it from Steve Jobs unless you jailbreak it

is there no need to root android phones anymore? the phone i currently have i had to root to get stupid shit apps off of it that slowed the device down.

[cheguevara]

as far as I know rooting the gs2 is super easy like a 2 minute job. And no it will not install anything like that on it. it just unlocks it.

I don't think it'd be that easy with the apple especially since IOS5 is recent. Plus there are risks to briking it, updating it, etc.

[resistanze]

I rooted my GS II because I needed to unlock it to another carrier. Yeah, it was quite easy (less than 5 minutes). My phone didn't come with too much bloatware but it's probably carrier dependent. The phone has been blazing fast so far.

[Drachen]

as far as I know rooting the gs2 is super easy like a 2 minute job. And no it will not install anything like that on it. it just unlocks it.

I don't think it'd be that easy with the apple especially since IOS5 is recent. Plus there are risks to briking it, updating it, etc.

I think the point was that you said that the GSII was yours but you had to jailbreak the Iphone in order to get that same level of control. Then in the next post said that rooting is easy. I think that stock, there is more control in android than stock IOS, I also think that rooted there is more control than jailbroken (I *think* because I have not used a jailbroken iphone, so I don't know if you can swap kernels, overclock, undervolt, etc), but the point is that there are restrictions to both while stock.

[cheguevara]

I think the point was that you said that the GSII was yours but you had to jailbreak the Iphone in order to get that same level of control. Then in the next post said that rooting is easy. I think that stock, there is more control in android than stock IOS, I also think that rooted there is more control than jailbroken (I *think* because I have not used a jailbroken iphone, so I don't know if you can swap kernels, overclock, undervolt, etc), but the point is that there are restrictions to both while stock.

what I meant is that samsung out of the box already gives you tons more control than Iphone. Then if you want more, you can root it which is a trivial step really.

on the other hand, Iphone out of the box does not give you much flexibility. Only option would be to jailbreak it which is not trivial at all.

[Drachen]

what I meant is that samsung out of the box already gives you tons more control than Iphone. Then if you want more, you can root it which is a trivial step really.

on the other hand, Iphone out of the box does not give you much flexibility. Only option would be to jailbreak it which is not trivial at all.

Ok, understood.

[leemajors]

what I meant is that samsung out of the box already gives you tons more control than Iphone. Then if you want more, you can root it which is a trivial step really.

on the other hand, Iphone out of the box does not give you much flexibility. Only option would be to jailbreak it which is not trivial at all.

Jailbreaking is not terribly difficult (pwnage tool was easy last time I did), but iOS5 is still tethered only jailbreak (I believe)

[lefty]

Even easier is jailbreakme.com

Straight from your iPhone, in few seconds

[stretch]

i think i might just wait a bit for the Galaxy Nexus

[Drachen]

i think i might just wait a bit for the Galaxy Nexus

If you have the time, I would

[ElNono]

The whole jailbreak stuff is also very personal at this point in time. I can't think a whole lot of things you can do on a rooted vs non-rooted or jailbroken vs non-jailbroken device.

And then the question becomes if you personally need any of those.

[TheMACHINE]

which should I get?

and i dont want this to turn into some stupid argument thread about android vs. iphone

i just want to know what is honestly the better phone right now, and which one would i most likely be happy with 2 years from now (aka future potential).

going by the specs, it seems the Galaxy S II has more to offer, but im not nearly as knowledgable as others here.

Galaxy Nexus.

[lefty]

In terms of customization JB iPhone >>>>>>> everything else




TBQH

[Cry Havoc]

In terms of customization JB iPhone >>>>>>> everything else

TBQH

Except for, you know, a rooted Android. My Evo has a custom kernel AND a custom OS on it. Can you do that on iPhone? Nooooooooope.

http://i.imgur.com/fnZtJ.png

Can you make your homescreen look like that on the iPhone? Noooooooope. You can virtually replicate iOS on Android though, with MIUI.

Personal taste aside, really, you can't go wrong with either. The 4S is a phenomenal phone and Siri is just icing on the cake, although Android does have it's own version of it that's improving day by day and already can do most of the things that Siri is capable of, although Siri is innately more flexible.

I'd boil it down, oddly enough, to screen size. Want a massive display you can watch movies on? Get an SII or the new Nexus Prime. Want a phone that's going to comfortably fit in any pants pocket and still give you good images? iPhone.

The differences are much less these days than any fanboy is going to make them out to be. Android is more customizable, iPhone is simpler to use.

Not sure, but a big deal for me is the fact that my Evo has hot-swappable batteries. That's absolutely huge. I paid $14 for 2 extra batteries and a wall charger. I can now go half a week (~80 hours) without needing to charge my phone up.

I embiggened some words so the haters don't get all uppity.

[leemajors]

I can't believe you still have your Evo honestly, thought you would have gone for something newer by now. Nexus prime?

[lefty]

Except for, you know, a rooted Android. My Evo has a custom kernel AND a custom OS on it. Can you do that on iPhone? Nooooooooope.

http://i.imgur.com/fnZtJ.png

Can you make your homescreen look like that on the iPhone? Noooooooope. .


Yes you can (but on a JB iPhone)

[Cry Havoc]

I can't believe you still have your Evo honestly, thought you would have gone for something newer by now. Nexus prime?

No need at the moment. My Evo still flies on Cyanogen Mod 7.1. I really see nothing that needs the dual core proc at the moment besides gaming, and I don't game on my phone AS much as I would have to to justify the upgrade.

I MIGHT switch to the Prime, but only if it comes out for Sprint. Screw the other cell phone companies and their 2GB limit. Not ever gonna pay to be capped unless there's no other option. I still love my Evo, and the screen looks almost brand new. I haven't even felt the slightest inkling of desire to get a better phone until I saw the Nexus Prime.

[hater]

Did lefty seriously say a JB Iphone is more customizable than a rooted Android??

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

try installing your own custom kernel in the iphone and dual booting it

:lmao lefty

[stretch]

Except for, you know, a rooted Android. My Evo has a custom kernel AND a custom OS on it. Can you do that on iPhone? Nooooooooope.

http://i.imgur.com/fnZtJ.png

Can you make your homescreen look like that on the iPhone? Noooooooope. You can virtually replicate iOS on Android though, with MIUI.


wow that looks pretty kick ass. you gotta show me how to do that

[hater]

Except for, you know, a rooted Android. My Evo has a custom kernel AND a custom OS on it. Can you do that on iPhone? Nooooooooope.

http://i.imgur.com/fnZtJ.png

Can you make your homescreen look like that on the iPhone? Noooooooope. You can virtually replicate iOS on Android though, with MIUI.


:lmao lefty

[leemajors]

Did lefty seriously say a JB Iphone is more customizable than a rooted Android??

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

try installing your own custom kernel in the iphone and dual booting it

:lmao lefty

not the same, but you can install android on an iPhone. Very work intensive and difficult, but it can be done.

[leemajors]

here is one of my buddy's hacked home screen on his iPhone 4. I tried it for a bit but it didn't have all of the icons converted and I got tired of messing with it, but it is neat looking:

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb64/beestrofowler/photo-1.png

[stretch]

pretty neat, tbh. but if you jailbreak it, doesnt it void any warranty? and isnt there a possibility of fucking up your phone?

[resistanze]

You can always un-jailbreak it, tbh. And you have to actively go out of your way to brick your phone these days -the process is so simple and guided.

[stretch]

You can always un-jailbreak it, tbh. And you have to actively go out of your way to brick your phone these days -the process is so simple and guided.

ah i see

im slowly leaning more towards the iPhone because im seeing some of the cool customization jobs people have been able to do with jailbroken iphones.

desicions desicions...

[resistanze]

ah i see

im slowly leaning more towards the iPhone because im seeing some of the cool customization jobs people have been able to do with jailbroken iphones.

desicions desicions...

Despite what you'll hear from others, you can't go wrong with either. My iPhones served me well for the years I had them. A jailbroken iPhone is much better the a unjailbroken one, though.

The Galaxy S2 is clearly my favorite phone and Android does the little things I couldn't do before, which probably isn't a necessity for a lot of people. I'd try em both out but you won't be disappointed either way.

[stretch]

well, basically there are only 2 things that held me back from the iPhone 4s

1. customizability of looks
2. all the apps i have already purchased on android

but being that i can customize the looks, that makes me exponentially more open toward the iphone

but i would still hate to lose the apps i purchased for android.

[Drachen]

well, basically there are only 2 things that held me back from the iPhone 4s

1. customizability of looks
2. all the apps i have already purchased on android

but being that i can customize the looks, that makes me exponentially more open toward the iphone

but i would still hate to lose the apps i purchased for android.

How many could you have possibly purchased? Despite having 130k fewer total apps, the android market has about 20k more free or ad supported apps. Plus the paid apps on android are not that as expensive as they are on other platforms. Did you really spend a lot on apps?

[stretch]

no i didnt spend that much, its not a huge deal

but im wondering how much the cydia apps will run me to customize the phone the way i would want to if i got an iphone

[leemajors]

no i didnt spend that much, its not a huge deal

but im wondering how much the cydia apps will run me to customize the phone the way i would want to if i got an iphone

if you jailbreak there are plenty of places to get free apps, torrent sites, etc. most of the shit on cydia is free anyway. my buddy didn't spend a dime customizing his home screen like that - it's Glaskart HD. He did make some of his own icons in photoshop thoughl.

[stretch]

leemajors

i think you have sold me on the iPhone 4s

:toast

[stretch]

however i have run into an incredibly bullshit situation with AT&T

i am currently on a family plan that i have had with my parents for over 10 years, however my parents no longer want to remain with AT&T

my intention is to jump off theirs and onto my wifes family plan that she has with her sisters with AT&T.

unfortunately, since she is was from Oklahoma, and the account originated there, they said that i will have to get a new phone number (with an Oklahoma area code), and cannot keep the special features that i was allowed to keep because i was a longtime customer (unlimited data), and will have to drop down to the 2GB limit.

what a bunch of bullshit :bang

[Drachen]

if you jailbreak there are plenty of places to get free apps, torrent sites, etc. most of the shit on cydia is free anyway. my buddy didn't spend a dime customizing his home screen like that - it's Glaskart HD. He did make some of his own icons in photoshop thoughl.

Now, I have to ask.... when you are talking about torrent sites, are you talking about getting paid apps for free?

[Trainwreck2100]

however i have run into an incredibly bullshit situation with AT&T

i am currently on a family plan that i have had with my parents for over 10 years, however my parents no longer want to remain with AT&T

my intention is to jump off theirs and onto my wifes family plan that she has with her sisters with AT&T.

unfortunately, since she is was from Oklahoma, and the account originated there, they said that i will have to get a new phone number (with an Oklahoma area code), and cannot keep the special features that i was allowed to keep because i was a longtime customer (unlimited data), and will have to drop down to the 2GB limit.

what a bunch of bullshit :bang

i could have told you that

[Drachen]

however i have run into an incredibly bullshit situation with AT&T

i am currently on a family plan that i have had with my parents for over 10 years, however my parents no longer want to remain with AT&T

my intention is to jump off theirs and onto my wifes family plan that she has with her sisters with AT&T.

unfortunately, since she is was from Oklahoma, and the account originated there, they said that i will have to get a new phone number (with an Oklahoma area code), and cannot keep the special features that i was allowed to keep because i was a longtime customer (unlimited data), and will have to drop down to the 2GB limit.

what a bunch of bullshit :bang

Port your San Antonio number to google voice (so you can keep it), get the oklahoma number and attach it to your google voice account (when people call your GV number you can tell it to ring your OK number). That way, as far as everyone else knows, you still have the same number, but you don't. As far as the rest of the stuff, sorry that sucks.

[leemajors]

Now, I have to ask.... when you are talking about torrent sites, are you talking about getting paid apps for free?

you can, yes

[stretch]

Port your San Antonio number to google voice (so you can keep it), get the oklahoma number and attach it to your google voice account (when people call your GV number you can tell it to ring your OK number). That way, as far as everyone else knows, you still have the same number, but you don't. As far as the rest of the stuff, sorry that sucks.

actually i have a dallas number, but i gotcha :toast

[stretch]

Port your San Antonio number to google voice (so you can keep it), get the oklahoma number and attach it to your google voice account (when people call your GV number you can tell it to ring your OK number). That way, as far as everyone else knows, you still have the same number, but you don't. As far as the rest of the stuff, sorry that sucks.

but what about for texting? ive never used google voice and dont know anything about it, so im simply ignorant here.

[Drachen]

you can, yes

Ah, ok, not really my cup of tea. I try to support the devs of the apps that I use. In fact some of the roms that I put on my phone have adblocker preinstalled and I disable it right away.

I don't want to see ads, but if that is how an app developer decided to set up his business plan, far be it from me to shut that down.

[leemajors]

Ah, ok, not really my cup of tea. I try to support the devs of the apps that I use. In fact some of the roms that I put on my phone have adblocker preinstalled and I disable it right away.

I don't want to see ads, but if that is how an app developer decided to set up his business plan, far be it from me to shut that down.

i was just saying it is an option. i have hacked my phone twice, but I always end up going back to stock. there are plenty of app sales, and I rarely spend more than .99 except for cyclemeter pro, which was $4.99. but it has been well worth that to be able to track my rides by GPS, and it has tons of awesome features.

[Drachen]

but what about for texting? ive never used google voice and dont know anything about it, so im simply ignorant here.

People can text your GV number, it would come through on the GV app (does apple have this??). There may be a way to have it forward the texts to your OK number, but I don't know. The biggest concern is that GV has not had the capability to process MMS's, they do now, but they are rolling it out carrier by carrier. Sprint is the first and they just rolled it out to us. You have 2 options, if someone wants to send you an MMS, you can have them send it to your email, or give them the OK number.

Also, do you really think that you are going to use 2 GB of data on a 3.5 in screen at 3g speeds?

[leemajors]

yes, iOS has an official GV app

[stretch]

People can text your GV number, it would come through on the GV app (does apple have this??). There may be a way to have it forward the texts to your OK number, but I don't know. The biggest concern is that GV has not had the capability to process MMS's, they do now, but they are rolling it out carrier by carrier. Sprint is the first and they just rolled it out to us. You have 2 options, if someone wants to send you an MMS, you can have them send it to your email, or give them the OK number.

Also, do you really think that you are going to use 2 GB of data on a 3.5 in screen at 3g speeds?

gotcha

and no, i probably wont. i just think its incredibly douchey that they cant pull some strings and let me keep it since i have been with them for such a long time. i think its much more aggravating, because the person i spoke with it about was being a total bitch, and i was right on the cusp of still making the change and everything, but she kept being a jerk, so i just walked out on her, and she had to put the phone that she got for me back together and undo all the changes she had made to the accounts.

if i already have to do stupid shit like this, at least treat your customer well.

[Drachen]

gotcha

and no, i probably wont. i just think its incredibly douchey that they cant pull some strings and let me keep it since i have been with them for such a long time. i think its much more aggravating, because the person i spoke with it about was being a total bitch, and i was right on the cusp of still making the change and everything, but she kept being a jerk, so i just walked out on her, and she had to put the phone that she got for me back together and undo all the changes she had made to the accounts.

if i already have to do stupid shit like this, at least treat your customer well.

how much will your wife's bill increase by adding you?

[leemajors]

gotcha

and no, i probably wont. i just think its incredibly douchey that they cant pull some strings and let me keep it since i have been with them for such a long time. i think its much more aggravating, because the person i spoke with it about was being a total bitch, and i was right on the cusp of still making the change and everything, but she kept being a jerk, so i just walked out on her, and she had to put the phone that she got for me back together and undo all the changes she had made to the accounts.

if i already have to do stupid shit like this, at least treat your customer well.

I would try calling them, explain your predicament calmly, and see what they can do. If they won't, climb the ladder.

[Drachen]

I would try calling them, explain your predicament calmly, and see what they can do. If they won't, climb the ladder.

Mention sprint, or verizon, but not T-Mobile.

[Monostradamus]

however i have run into an incredibly bullshit situation with AT&T

i am currently on a family plan that i have had with my parents for over 10 years, however my parents no longer want to remain with AT&T

my intention is to jump off theirs and onto my wifes family plan that she has with her sisters with AT&T.

unfortunately, since she is was from Oklahoma, and the account originated there, they said that i will have to get a new phone number (with an Oklahoma area code), and cannot keep the special features that i was allowed to keep because i was a longtime customer (unlimited data), and will have to drop down to the 2GB limit.

what a bunch of bullshit :bang

oh that's horsecrap. So you can't get your wife to drop her plan and join you? Losing unlimited data would be a dealbreaker for me.

And uh why are they dropping AT&T when certain members of certain families work in a certain place called AT&T?

[stretch]

how much will your wife's bill increase by adding you?

for the line and 2GB data plan, it will be an extra $35, plus the other little taxes/fees. they already have an unlimited family texting plan.

[stretch]

I would try calling them, explain your predicament calmly, and see what they can do. If they won't, climb the ladder.

tried that too. went absolutely nowhere.

[Drachen]

tried that too. went absolutely nowhere.

when is your wife's contract up?

[stretch]

when is your wife's contract up?

she just started a new 2 year contract about 2 weeks ago, and got a 4s.

[stretch]

oh that's horsecrap. So you can't get your wife to drop her plan and join you? Losing unlimited data would be a dealbreaker for me.

she just started her new plan, but i guess its a possibility.

then again, i went through several of my past months usage charts, and never came close to 2GB. but that may also be due to the fact that i dont use my phone that much because its a piece of shit. but after thinking about it more, i probably wouldnt go over the limit ever because the main places i go to regularly all have wi-fi that i can use. its just annoying that they cant work with a long-time customer.


And uh why are they dropping AT&T when certain members of certain families work in a certain place called AT&T?

because the certain family member who works there, his wife never uses her phone so they feel its a waste of money.

[leemajors]

did you threaten to have her take her phone back and re-buy under your family plan?

[stretch]

did you threaten to have her take her phone back and re-buy under your family plan?

no, but what good would that really do?

[Drachen]

no, but what good would that really do?

Um, just have her take back her phone and go to another company.

[leemajors]

no, but what good would that really do?

you'd keep your unlimited and create more work for someone at at&t (and apple) deactivating and reactivating phones. or they could just accommodate you right then and there. based on your previous experience it sounds like they might not do it, but what the hell.

[lefty]

:lmao lefty
You dumbfuck

Has never manipulated an iPhone


Rookie :lmao

[TheMACHINE]

damn..this thread went from a simple "4s or s2" to frickin changing numbers, rooted/JB. Some deep techie shit going on. lol

[Drachen]

damn..this thread went from a simple "4s or s2" to frickin changing numbers, rooted/JB. Some deep techie shit going on. lol

but it is the most civil apple v android debate on this site. Well, until now, hater baited lefty, lefty just took the bait the post before yours, so this moment in time is where it will go downhill.

[hater]

Lefty is mad :lmao

Mission accomplished, carry on :lol

btw as I mentioned I helped my girl get a 4s. Iphone still has a place in the world such as a woman's or a baby boomer's hand.

[leemajors]

but it is the most civil apple v android debate on this site. Well, until now, hater baited lefty, lefty just took the bait the post before yours, so this moment in time is where it will go downhill.

i would say overall this forum is the most civil atm

[resistanze]

:lol US becoming more like Canada regarding cell phone plans

All you need are standard 3 year contracts instead of 2 year and random standard 'government' fees added to your bill and you're set.

[leemajors]

:lol US becoming more like Canada regarding cell phone plans

All you need are standard 3 year contracts instead of 2 year and random standard 'government' fees added to your bill and you're set.

there are any number of random dumb fees on our bills too

[hater]

Telephone and Cable/ISP companies will be fucking us til eternity

[TheMACHINE]

i have to agree with Hater...my wife got an iPhone too and i dont mind since she likes simple gadgets and has small hands.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

i have to agree with Hater...my wife got an iPhone too and i dont mind since she likes simple gadgets and has small hands.

lol overcompensating for your tiny cock with a big phone.

[TheMACHINE]

lol overcompensating for your tiny cock with a big phone.

cool story, bro.

[lefty]

Lefty is mad :lmao

Mission accomplished, carry on :lol

btw as I mentioned I helped my girl get a 4s. Iphone still has a place in the world such as a woman's or a baby boomer's hand.
You stupid midget :lmao


Jailbreaks allow you to tweak your iPhone anyway you want


lol so mad he comes up with shitty arguments :rollin

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

cool story, bro.

Hey don't get mad at apple because you have a little baby dick.

[hater]

When all else fails apple fanboy will :
A) throw insults
B) talk about his 2nd favorite subject, cock

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

When all else fails apple fanboy will :
A) throw insults
B) talk about his 2nd favorite subject, cock

:lmao pot meet kettle
:lmao thinking I'm an apple fanboy

[TheMACHINE]

When all else fails apple fanboy will :
A) throw insults
B) talk about his 2nd favorite subject, cock

I reckon the small hands comment struck a nerve.

[vander]

Nokia 701 (Belle: last dieing gasp from Symbian, actually pretty good, if you don't need apps :depressed)

$15(or $10) unlimited 'dumbphone' data plan from ATT

Joikuspot

win

[Nathan Explosion]

i could have told you that

Yeah, that's not bullshit. All carriers are going to do that. The number technically belongs to your parents, not you. I had that problem with Sprint when I went to Cingular. Sprint wouldn't let me have the number because it was considered my grandparents' phone, so I had to get a new number.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

OK. Any particular reason a Google Chrome App isn't available for an Android phone? I believe I had Safari for my iphone. Not comparing the two browsers, so settle down.

[leemajors]

OK. Any particular reason a Google Chrome App isn't available for an Android phone? I believe I had Safari for my iphone. Not comparing the two browsers, so settle down.

i think they are working on one, but there is not one out there.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Isn't android a google product?

[stretch]

yes

[Viva Las Espuelas]

How long has Chrome been out?

[Drachen]

How long has Chrome been out?

I will say this Viva. I can't defend it. You have a point. Why TF doesn't android have chrome.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

I'm being devil's advocate here, really. Seems kinda strange to me. Its kinda like ihop running out of batter and not having it the next day or the following either. But really they never had it in the first place. Just wondering if any of the android defenders here have a reason for this laziness.

[Drachen]

I'm being devil's advocate here, really. Seems kinda strange to me. Its kinda like ihop running out of batter and not having it the next day or the following either. But really they never had it in the first place. Just wondering if any of the android defenders here have a reason for this laziness.

I don't, I only have a deflection: I have PLENTY of browsers to choose from and am very happy with my choice (Dolphin HD).

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Ill try dolphin then. For some reason Firefox isn't reading YouTube clips so I'm assuming its not reading flash for some reason. I'm learning the Android ropes little by little.

[MannyIsGod]

Dolphin is the way to go. Although its not named Chrome, the stock browser is basically Chrome for your phone. Its a browser for android developed by Google. My guess on why they aren't working on making it better probably has to do with other priorities and the fact that there are several good browsing options available on the market.

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah, that's not bullshit. All carriers are going to do that. The number technically belongs to your parents, not you. I had that problem with Sprint when I went to Cingular. Sprint wouldn't let me have the number because it was considered my grandparents' phone, so I had to get a new number.

My sister was able to keep her number when she left my mothers account.

[Drachen]

Ill try dolphin then. For some reason Firefox isn't reading YouTube clips so I'm assuming its not reading flash for some reason. I'm learning the Android ropes little by little.

I haven't had any issues with flash using Dolphin, but if you do, I understand that skyfire is the best when it comes to flash. (I haven't used it since I had my Hero, so it was painful, but that was more hardware based). LOL

[stretch]

Yeah, that's not bullshit. All carriers are going to do that. The number technically belongs to your parents, not you. I had that problem with Sprint when I went to Cingular. Sprint wouldn't let me have the number because it was considered my grandparents' phone, so I had to get a new number.

That has nothing to do with this whatsoever. It has to do with their idiotic notion that since an account was started in Oklahoma City, all numbers on the account must have an Oklahoma City number. If I jumped onto another plan that was started in DFW, I would be able to keep my number no problem.

[leemajors]

My sister was able to keep her number when she left my mothers account.

yeah that hasn't been an issue for years.

[Cry Havoc]

I prefer opera actually. Love the browser and it runs much faster than Dolphin for me.

[Drachen]

I prefer opera actually. Love the browser and it runs much faster than Dolphin for me.

It is possible that things have changed, but I used opera and liked it for the reason that you mentioned. I would, however run into sites that wouldn't render correctly and once I got used to the slide out favorites on D HD, I can't go back.

[Cry Havoc]

It is possible that things have changed, but I used opera and liked it for the reason that you mentioned. I would, however run into sites that wouldn't render correctly and once I got used to the slide out favorites on D HD, I can't go back.

I switch to Dolphin on sites that don't load as well, but Opera has been pretty awesome lately with rendering.

[Nathan Explosion]

1) In regards to the phone number, maybe things have changed but back when I switched, Sprint wouldn't let me take the number. I asked. But if you notice, I said Cingular so that should tell you how long it's been (5 years since I switched when my ex was pregnant with my son).

2) I read somewhere that Android and Chrome have 2 different development teams and the Android people developed their own browser for Android, independent of Chrome. Therefore, while the Android browser may share a lot of code with Chrome, it's NOT Chrome. In fact, I found this link discussing the issue.

http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/17/google-chrome-android/


When Android first launched in October of 2008, it seemed like either a small oversight or precautionary measure that the browser bundled with it wasn’t branded as Chrome. After all, Google’s browser had just launched in beta (on Windows) the month before. Assuming people liked it, you would have assumed that Google would transfer the branding over to use in Android, right?

Well people did like Chrome. A lot. And yet, Google never moved it over. This despite the fact that Apple did just that on the iPhone with its much less successful Safari browser. Meanwhile, Opera and Mozilla’s Firefox were committed to mobile versions of their popular browsers as well. But Google stuck with “Browser” for Android.

And now they may be stuck with it for good. The problem is that Chrome, for better or worse, is now associated with another product that is similar but different from Android — again, Chrome OS. Imagine if they start including a Chrome browser on Android tablets and then next year Chrome OS tablets launch. Consumers will wonder what the hell the difference is? (And this may already prove to be an issue on the PC/Chromebook side of things, we’ll see.)

It's an interesting point, although in the next sentence the writer mentions the possiblity of Chrome tablets. I don't think that will happen. Google would be STUPID to launch two tablets with two different OS's.

[scott]

If you are friends with mostly techies, get the Droid.

If you like to have sex with girls, get the iPhone.

Pretty simple, tbh

[Drachen]

If you are friends with mostly techies, get the Droid.

If you like to have sex with girls, get the iPhone.

Pretty simple, tbh

Or another way to think about it: If you want to find a woman who is smart enough that you don't have to support, get an android.
If you want to find out how herpes feels get an Iphone

[scott]

Or another way to think about it: If you want to find a woman who is smart enough that you don't have to support, get an android.
If you want to find out how herpes feels get an Iphone

Yet another way to think about it:

If you only want to get with ugly chicks, get a Droid.

[scott]

Also, you suck at humor.

[leemajors]

Also, you suck at humor.

:lol

[Drachen]

Yet another way to think about it:

If you only want to get with ugly chicks, get a Droid.

The very last possible way of looking at it: if you dig the sexy librarian with the knee high boots, get a Droid. If you dig contemporary Lindsey Lohan with yellow teeth, get an iPhone

[Drachen]

Also, you suck at humor.

Also, you suck at recognizing good humor

[Drachen]

:lol

And yes, I laughed too. :lol

[resistanze]

I'm not a fan of cases for my phones (should've seen how my iPhone 3GS looked like), but I decided to grab this one for eBay:
http://www.sgpstore.com/media/configurable/Samsung-Galaxy-S2-Case-Neo-Hybrid-Series/satinsilver.jpg
Looks sexy as shit, but I still hate cases. Took it off and only kept the screen protector :lol

[leemajors]

Screen protectors are pretty worthless imo. Switcheasy makes some great iPhone cases, and they are reasonably priced.

[Drachen]

I'm not a fan of cases for my phones (should've seen how my iPhone 3GS looked like), but I decided to grab this one for eBay:
http://www.sgpstore.com/media/configurable/Samsung-Galaxy-S2-Case-Neo-Hybrid-Series/satinsilver.jpg
Looks sexy as shit, but I still hate cases. Took it off and only kept the screen protector :lol

I use a TPU case from TPU-Cases.com. I like it, and the owner of the company is a regular on xda-developers, and is very very responsive to any issues.

[resistanze]

I hate like 3 Switcheasy cases for my 3GS, they were nice. But I still ended up going bareback.

The reason I got a screen protectorfor my S II was because I did some reading and people said the coating of the Gorilla glass screen eventually wore down. Plus even though it's scratch resistant peple have indeed successully scratched it (mainly small particles like sand could do the job).

[resistanze]

I use a TPU case from TPU-Cases.com. I like it, and the owner of the company is a regular on xda-developers, and is very very responsive to any issues.

The price is right , I'll tell you that. Might be a good one for me on days I want to slip on a case. Thanks.

[Drachen]

The price is right , I'll tell you that. Might be a good one for me on days I want to slip on a case. Thanks.

yeah, the price is right, that includes shipping too. Also, you will get it fast (I got mine on a wednesday and I ordered it monday evening). He usually releases a case for a new phone, and observes reactions, if people find some design flaws he will correct them, then issue new ones (while sending free ones to the early adopters).

You can get TPU cases for cheaper (my wife got some through ebay 5 for 8.50), but the design kinda sucks (power button and volume rocker hard to press) and the TPU feels a little different (kinda sticks to your pocket a little).

[lefty]

I hate like 3 Switcheasy cases for my 3GS, they were nice. But I still ended up going bareback.

The reason I got a screen protectorfor my S II was because I did some reading and people said the coating of the Gorilla glass screen eventually wore down. Plus even though it's scratch resistant peple have indeed successully scratched it (mainly small particles like sand could do the job).
I'm considering taking the case off of my iPhone 4.

Shit is annoying, plus it's hard to access some buttons when it's on

[leemajors]

I'm considering taking the case off of my iPhone 4.

Shit is annoying, plus it's hard to access some buttons when it's on

I have the capsule rebel from switcheasy, and it is a bit annoying it doesn't lay flat but the grip is outstanding and I have dropped it flat on the back several times and it just bounces and is unharmed. I am just paranoid about the back glass.

[leemajors]

I hate like 3 Switcheasy cases for my 3GS, they were nice. But I still ended up going bareback.

The reason I got a screen protectorfor my S II was because I did some reading and people said the coating of the Gorilla glass screen eventually wore down. Plus even though it's scratch resistant peple have indeed successully scratched it (mainly small particles like sand could do the job).

I had one for a long time but it was interfering with Angry Birds and had to go.

[lefty]

I have the capsule rebel from switcheasy, and it is a bit annoying it doesn't lay flat but the grip is outstanding and I have dropped it flat on the back several times and it just bounces and is unharmed. I am just paranoid about the back glass.
Thanks

I'll take a lot at it

[leemajors]

some pretty good looking stuff here:

http://www.tipb.com/2011/11/03/top-5-jailbreak-utilities-ios-5/

[lefty]

some pretty good looking stuff here:

http://www.tipb.com/2011/11/03/top-5-jailbreak-utilities-ios-5/
Nothing really new, but with iOS 5, I don't feel like I need a jailbreak

SBsettings is nice, but I'm not that lazy :lol

[stretch]

biteSMS looks just like chompSMS on android

[lefty]

http://s3.buysellads.com/1250633/81610-1320093603.gif

[leemajors]

i have no intention of jailbreaking but intelliscreenX looks badass.

[stretch]

I was on the fringe of getting an iphone 4s, but found that the LTE verson of the GS2 is coming out tomorrow, so im probably getting that.

[Drachen]

I was on the fringe of getting an iphone 4s, but found that the LTE verson of the GS2 is coming out tomorrow, so im probably getting that.

Have fun!

[Cry Havoc]

I got my Evo case from Case-Mate, and it's been absolutely fantastic. I don't need a screen protector with Gorilla Glass. I've had it for over a year and it's only got a few small scratches.

[TheGreatest23]

I was on the fringe of getting an iphone 4s, but found that the LTE verson of the GS2 is coming out tomorrow, so im probably getting that.

Get the S2 SKYROCKET

[stretch]

Get the S2 SKYROCKET

thats what im getting

but fuck, my luck keeps getting worse

i go in for the upgrade first thing this morning, and the stupid fucking dickheads make an announcement after 30 minutes of waiting wondering what the hell is going on, saying there are technicial difficulties with the phone, and will take our names/numbers and call us when its fixed in a couple hours so we can get our phones

the entire day passes, i call them wondering what the hell is going on, and find out that they forgot to order some fucking 4G sim cards, and no stores in the entire city (Oklahoma, i was visiting for the weekend) had any. add to it, they were doing a special specifically in OKC selling it for only $150, and now that im back in Dallas, i cant get that deal. WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK

[Drachen]

You can buy it online for 149.99
right here (http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-details/index.jsp?device=Samsung+Galaxy+S+%28TM%29+II+Skyr ocket+%28TM%29+-+Black&q_sku=sku5390262&_requestid=49347#fbid=0VXV969hqjc)

[stretch]

nope, not working. its saying $249.99 for me

[Drachen]

then you may want to call them, there is even an engadget article about this.
here (http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/06/htc-vivid-and-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-go-on-sale-lead-atand/)

wait, is Dallas not a LTE market?

two options, try getting BB to price match (put a san antonio zip code in there, 78240 and bring them a print out

Or you could try just putting a san antonio zip code in there then having them ship to your house.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

OK. I've got a few bitches about my att galaxy s2, but first:
I read the skyrocket is,with the exception of LTE, a bit inferior to the S2. Bigger screen with the same resolution and a different, less talked about CPU. Take that how you want to....
Oh, and resistanze....answer your damn pm. Please :D

Now, back to my bitches......
I've had my S2 for a little over a couple of weeks. This is after me having a 3GS for little over 2 years. The S2 is a beautiful phone. The guts are far superior over the 3GS but I'm not completely wowed by it yet. As I was typing this, the simple task of typing it on my phone was frustrating so now I'm typing it in the Memo app. The cursor pops up a few characters behind the blinking/flashing line and its hard to determine were the letters will pop up. I've been dealing with that all the sudden starting about a week ago. A little frustrating. The spacebar isn't long enough in landscape mode. I'm using the android keyboard. Anyway to get rid of the "," and "." key?

This problem just started a couple of days ago: I have the pattern lock screen activated. Sometimes when I hit the power button to activate the screen to input the pattern, the pattern isn't there. I just swipe it and I get access to my phone. No protection. Doesn't happen all the time but it shouldn't.

When I scroll with the provided Web browser-- which not being called Chrome or not having the App available still doesn't make sense to me-- a lot of times the page doesn't stay where I leave it. It scrolls back to some other point in the page like there's a page break somewhere. I have to double tap it. Sometimes that works.

Then there's the battery issue. I dont unserstand how when i have my phone connected to the charger the phone still manages to die. Never had this problem with my 3GS and I'd be doing the same things on my phone while charging it.

I'll just leave it there :)
Convince me, fan boys :wakeup

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Phone died within minutes from posting that.

[stretch]

sounds like you just dont know how to use your phone

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Thanks for that insight.

[leemajors]

have you tried a replacement battery?

[resistanze]

sounds like you just dont know how to use your phone


Thanks for that insight.

:lol

BTW I answered your PM already.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

have you tried a replacement battery?

The phone is 2 weeks old, but no.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

:lol

BTW I answered your PM already.

Yes. Thanks. I didn't check there before my post.



Edit: from the time I was going to edit this post originally my phone died on me again. as of right now 5:52, the battery is at 14%. It was off the charger a total of about 20 minutes and I wasn't streaming audio like I was this morning......

[Slydragon]

I have the sprint galaxy 2 and I love the battery and I used the shit out of my phone. My brother in law has the att one and he does not used it very much threw out the day but he says his battery dies on him. I thought it was odd, is the att phone on a different firmware? I notice our camera apps are not the same. His is like my old slide out keyboard epic camera app and not like the new epic touch one.

[stretch]

just got the skyrocket

pretty nice tbh

[Cry Havoc]

Viva, download swiftkey. Never worry about the keyboard again.

[resistanze]

Agreed, Swiftkey is amazing, I use that along with Swype. It took me a week to get used to the spacebar so it isn't really an issue now.

I believe Smart keyboard Pro has a longer spacebar if you desire. Good thing is that there's so many options with keyboards with 'droid.

I've used the pattern lockscreen before, never had such a problem.

Not sure what's up with the battery, it really shouldn't be dying like that, especially if it's charging.

[resistanze]

just got the skyrocket

pretty nice tbh

You get to keep your plan? Or do you have LTE data.

[stretch]

yeah i have the unlimited data. would i get my ass busted if i used it to tether?

[Viva Las Espuelas]

I have the sprint galaxy 2 and I love the battery and I used the shit out of my phone. My brother in law has the att one and he does not used it very much threw out the day but he says his battery dies on him. I thought it was odd, is the att phone on a different firmware? I notice our camera apps are not the same. His is like my old slide out keyboard epic camera app and not like the new epic touch one.

I have the ATT one as well. From the time my phone died this morning, til it came on and died again, the battery is now at 14% and the phone was off the charger for a total of about 20 minutes. Different firmware? What do you mean.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

This problem just started a couple of days ago: I have the pattern lock screen activated. Sometimes when I hit the power button to activate the screen to input the pattern, the pattern isn't there. I just swipe it and I get access to my phone. No protection. Doesn't happen all the time but it shouldn't.

Well, I just tried to force it to do this and apparently the pattern lock is not working if the screen times out. It only does it when I manually hit the power button then hit it again to activate the screen. Kinda lame.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Is there a way to switch to 2G/3G? I don't always need 4G

[resistanze]

Is there a way to switch to 2G/3G? I don't always need 4G

You don't have LTE do you (don't think your phone is LTE )? LTE is true 4G. Your phone is referring to HSDPA+ which was formally called 3G+ but now is sometimes called 4G for marketing purposes. So you're actually on 3G.

[cheguevara]

just got email from ATT 4G is official in my area.

what speed should I be getting from speedtest.net??

[Nathan Explosion]

Someone mentioned that Dallas doesn't have LTE? Was this true? AT&T is headquartered in Dallas so I'd imagine that would be one of the first markets with LTE like San Antonio which its huge AT&T presence.

[hater]

played with my girl's iphone 4s. Gotta give props to the screen it is beautiful. Also the camera, nice and snappy.

Then... Where are the OS improvements? the OS looks exactly like my 4 year old Iphone 3G. 4 fucking years and your shit looks the same and outdated. After 5 minutes of playing with it, gave it back to her.

Every so often, I will grab her phone and wake it up. Look and admire the screen, but after 10 seconds put it back down. Boring as shit OS :lol

[lefty]

Boring as shit OS :lol
If you rely on an OS to entertain you, your life must be boring as shit :lol

[hater]

If you rely on an OS to entertain you, your life must be boring as shit :lol

everything should entertain. What's the point of it otherwise?

[PM5K]

It's not any different than windows. Windows isn't entertaining, it's the apps and internet that make it entertaining.

When my internet is out I just stare at my computer for a few seconds, and then go do something else.

[Cry Havoc]

If you rely on an OS to entertain you, your life must be boring as shit :lol

Is that kind of like how, "If you need a device to look as sexy as possible before you buy it, your life must be boring as shit."?

Sexy attractive enclosure = awesome! Makes the product much more pleasurable to use.

Needing an OS that looks attractive = HERP DERP UR BORING.

Do I have that right?

[leemajors]

Is that kind of like how, "If you need a device to look as sexy as possible before you buy it, your life must be boring as shit."?

Sexy attractive enclosure = awesome! Makes the product much more pleasurable to use.

Needing an OS that looks attractive = HERP DERP UR BORING.

Do I have that right?

if he orgasms when he touches his phone, good for him. unless he is in public

[lefty]

if he orgasms when he touches his phone, good for him. unless he is in public

:lol

[Cry Havoc]

if he orgasms when he touches his phone, good for him. unless he is in public

Only when I stick it down my pants while it's ringing. :lol

[TDMVPDPOY]

played with my girl's iphone 4s. Gotta give props to the screen it is beautiful. Also the camera, nice and snappy.

Then... Where are the OS improvements? the OS looks exactly like my 4 year old Iphone 3G. 4 fucking years and your shit looks the same and outdated. After 5 minutes of playing with it, gave it back to her.

Every so often, I will grab her phone and wake it up. Look and admire the screen, but after 10 seconds put it back down. Boring as shit OS :lol

why you oozing over a IPS screen?, fkn IPS screens for pcs are expensive...

[Cry Havoc]

why you oozing over a IPS screen?, fkn IPS screens for pcs are expensive...

IPS are nice, but I prefer Super AMOLED. Although IPS displays for a computer do indeed rock.

[hater]

iPhone 4S Not as Good as Androids, Says Consumer Reports
The leading US product critic, Consumer Reports takes a better look on iPhone 4S and found out that it's still not as good as its Android competitions.

In a report released Tuesday, the enhancement made to iPhone 4S scored a higher rating than the iPhone 4, but fall short to outscore the new Android based phones in the market.

http://uk.ibtimes.com/articles/246478/20111109/iphone-4s-aas-good-androids-says-consumer.htm

[Viva Las Espuelas]

OK. My 30 day "trial" on this phone is up today and I'm kinda leaning towards taking it back.

I'm still having that lock screen issue. That's just lazy coding there--wont ask for the touch code if it times out but will ask for it when I manually time it out???????

It tends to lock up if just a couple of programs/Apps are running. Hasn't totally froze up on me, yet

The 4g or whatever they label it isn't blowing my hair back. And yes I know that's more of the carrier's deal.

I'm still having that cursor issue which is so frustrating at times.

I don't like the fact that I "may" get ICS. Why aren't all android phones able to update the OS once it becomes available? Granted, that is if the hardware can handle it. My 2+ year 3GS was able to update to iOS5 the day it came out. Why do I have to root my phone for a simple update???

Not all giddy about my android experience so far. Convince me, fanboys :wakeup

[MannyIsGod]

Can't convince you that you should be blown away by the stock experience. I would not use android if I didn't have the ability to root and get custom ROMs.

[stretch]

After having had time to use my wife's 4s, and my GS2 Skyrocket, I'm glad I chose the Skyrocket.

The only complaint I have is the battery life could be better. But basically everything I did on the 4s, I was able to do on the Skyrocket, and in a lot of cases, I could do much better on the Skyrocket.

Now I haven't rooted the Skyrocket, or played with a jailbroken 4s (my wife thinks if I jail break it, it will blow the phone up or something fucking retarded), so I still haven't gotten a chance to really utilize these devices to the extend they can be. But for stock devices, unless you are a complete electronic dimwit or an iphone fanboy, I think most people will be more pleased with the GS2. I think the TouchWizUI (which >>>>>>> sense IMO) is nearly as intuitive as iOS5, but obviously more customizable.

[stretch]

OK. My 30 day "trial" on this phone is up today and I'm kinda leaning towards taking it back.

I'm still having that lock screen issue. That's just lazy coding there--wont ask for the touch code if it times out but will ask for it when I manually time it out???????

It tends to lock up if just a couple of programs/Apps are running. Hasn't totally froze up on me, yet

The 4g or whatever they label it isn't blowing my hair back. And yes I know that's more of the carrier's deal.

I'm still having that cursor issue which is so frustrating at times.

I don't like the fact that I "may" get ICS. Why aren't all android phones able to update the OS once it becomes available? Granted, that is if the hardware can handle it. My 2+ year 3GS was able to update to iOS5 the day it came out. Why do I have to root my phone for a simple update???

Not all giddy about my android experience so far. Convince me, fanboys :wakeup

Your lock screen issue isn't an issue, from what I read in your earlier post. It's a setting. There is a way to set it up so that the pattern lock kicks in after a certain amount of time. You can have it kick in immediately, or after a while.

I'm wondering why you are having it lock up on you, I haven't had that issue whatsoever. That sounds like your specific phone has an issue, or maybe there is more to the story we don't know about.

If I recall, AT&T said we definitely will get ICS.

[stretch]

and I haven't had any issue with the cursor like you described. Kinda strange...

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Setting. An issue. An issue with my setting. Ive done everything you have to, which you spelled out, and that's what happens. It only asks me for my passcode when I manually timeout the screen. If it times out manually, all I have to do is swipe away the lock screen. No code necessary. And while I'm typing this there's about a half second delay from when I type til it shows up on the screen. Active applications are this browser and Facebook. The skyrocket is $50 more, right?

[ElNono]

I don't like the fact that I "may" get ICS. Why aren't all android phones able to update the OS once it becomes available? Granted, that is if the hardware can handle it. My 2+ year 3GS was able to update to iOS5 the day it came out. Why do I have to root my phone for a simple update???

This is a sad story that doesn't get told much. Here's an article about it:

http://theunderstatement.com/post/11982112928/android-orphans-visualizing-a-sad-history-of-support

Obviously, if you're adventurous or techie enough, this might not be an issue, but sometimes having official support isn't all that bad and saves you time.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Hmm. Well I don't mind rooting it and all that but it just seems like a hassle to do where with Apple, I can just update. Yeah, I like tweaking this and that...........but for simple OS updates????? Yes I see the difference in freedom Apple and Androids give you, now that I've experienced both, but it just seems like its unnecessary tweaking needed to do that with Androids. I don't know if that makes sense or not. And while I was typing this the damn cursor thing almost made me throw the phone against the wall.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Im tempted to just go get the 4S but I think I may go get the skyrocket and give android another shot. I know for a fact I wont like downgrade of screen real estate if I do go back to an iphone.

[Blake]

Before you buy the I phone 4s, I suggest holding out and checking out the youtube clip on the iphone 5.

Holographic images and a laser projected keyboard.

I thought it was fake when I saw it.

[stretch]

Setting. An issue. An issue with my setting. Ive done everything you have to, which you spelled out, and that's what happens. It only asks me for my passcode when I manually timeout the screen. If it times out manually, all I have to do is swipe away the lock screen. No code necessary. And while I'm typing this there's about a half second delay from when I type til it shows up on the screen. Active applications are this browser and Facebook. The skyrocket is $50 more, right?

Strange, I've never had that happen. I know I have the Skyrocket, but its nearly the same phone. I don't get it. But yeah, its $50 more. I would take it back if I were you and just get the Skyrocket.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Before you buy the I phone 4s, I suggest holding out and checking out the youtube clip on the iphone 5.

Holographic images and a laser projected keyboard.

I thought it was fake when I saw it.

Link?

[stretch]

Before you buy the I phone 4s, I suggest holding out and checking out the youtube clip on the iphone 5.

Holographic images and a laser projected keyboard.

I thought it was fake when I saw it.

cant be real...

[diego]

as I mentioned in a separate thread, I got my wife an iphone 4 and myself an xperia pro in the last couple days. having played around a bit with both, I would say-

-I immediately hated that the iphone forced me to install itunes on my pc to startup, and that itunes launched 5+ processes including 2 that automatically start in the background.

-the iphone has a really nice screen, great build quality, and a simple smoothness to it, cant take that away from it

-i understand the idea behind having only one button, but I find that browsing the web on my xperia pro is a lot easier. and, even if flash has a limited future right now there are a lot of sites the iphone cant handle that android can (I went to the same 3 sites on each phone and the iphone is littered with "download flash" banners.)

-battery wise i'm not seeing much difference, if anything the xperia pro is better because i'm using it a lot more intensively than she is her iphone

I guess I'll have to really get into the apps, roms, jailbreaking etc to have a more definitive point of view but right now it would be hard for me to justify spending multiples more on an iphone just for a great screen and a smoother UI (which can probably be tweaked on the android). The android phone has perks of its own, namely a qwerty. I think I would probably hate it otherwise :lol

[Drachen]

This is a sad story that doesn't get told much. Here's an article about it:

http://theunderstatement.com/post/11982112928/android-orphans-visualizing-a-sad-history-of-support

Obviously, if you're adventurous or techie enough, this might not be an issue, but sometimes having official support isn't all that bad and saves you time.

If you are not techie-inclined, but still want the advantages that android has, then just buy from the Nexus line, you will always (hardware permitting) have the latest android software (kinda like viva was saying about apple phones).

In addition to that, you have the choice to (for whatever reason) purchase other phones with different hardware configurations.

[Cry Havoc]

Before you buy the I phone 4s, I suggest holding out and checking out the youtube clip on the iphone 5.

Holographic images and a laser projected keyboard.

I thought it was fake when I saw it.

It IS fake. Do you do any research before spouting ridiculous flights of fancy?

The iPhone 4S just came out, do you think they'd be releasing specs for the 5 already? Come on. Use some fucking common sense.

[Nathan Explosion]

It IS fake. Do you do any research before spouting ridiculous flights of fancy?

The iPhone 4S just came out, do you think they'd be releasing specs for the 5 already? Come on. Use some fucking common sense.

Yeah, I saw that. I knew it was fake before I even researched it. And that video came out before the 4s was announced. I like my iPhone, but even I knew that was too much.

[ElNono]

If you are not techie-inclined, but still want the advantages that android has, then just buy from the Nexus line, you will always (hardware permitting) have the latest android software (kinda like viva was saying about apple phones).

In addition to that, you have the choice to (for whatever reason) purchase other phones with different hardware configurations.

Doesn't that require to install a new ROM too?

[ElNono]

That fake video was up even before the 4S went on sale...

[MannyIsGod]

Doesn't that require to install a new ROM too?

Nah the Nexus line gets the new updates OTA pretty damn fast since its always just stock Android.

The main problem with Android implementation is the way the individual manufactures do it and the carriers. No one can argue that the walled garden of Apple isn't usually a better out of the box experience (or they can but its stupid) but I do think Android has the higher ceiling of the two. Getting to that ceiling requires more work, however. It also means buying the right phone which can be a problem if you want a phone when its released.

Also, not all android handsets are created equal where as all iphones of a generation are.

[Drachen]

Doesn't that require to install a new ROM too?

No the Nexus S and the Nexus One have each gotten all updates to android. The Nexus One is not getting Ice Cream Sandwich, however, due to the aforementioned hardware limitations. The Nexus S support continues.

[ElNono]

Nah the Nexus line gets the new updates OTA pretty damn fast since its always just stock Android.

Thanks, didn't know that.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Well, I got it.
TBC........

[stretch]

You got the Skyrocket?

How are you liking it so far?

[Blake]

It IS fake. Do you do any research before spouting ridiculous flights of fancy?

The iPhone 4S just came out, do you think they'd be releasing specs for the 5 already? Come on. Use some fucking common sense.

no, I didn't do any research in this case.

sorry to anyone that purchased a fake Iphone 5 because of my post.

[Cry Havoc]

no, I didn't do any research in this case.

sorry to anyone that purchased a fake Iphone 5 because of my post.

You're giving advice to someone to "hold off" on purchasing a product while knowing nothing about what you're speaking of.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

You got the Skyrocket?

How are you liking it so far?

Yep. Its cool so far. Just sucks transferring everything and getting the settings the same as my old one. There was probably an easier way to do it because the salesman gave me the impression that he was kinda talking out of his ass about this phone. Plus his phone was an iPhone. I just didn't care for $35 return fee. Kinda makes the 30 "trial" not a trial. Oh well. We'll see.

Ha. Right as I was typing this, that cursor bug happened. Oh well....

[Blake]

You're giving advice to someone to "hold off" on purchasing a product while knowing nothing about what you're speaking of.

you sound perturbed.

did you hold off buying the iphone 4s for an extra 3+minutes to check out youtube because of my post?

sorry if that happened to you because of my bad joke

[Viva Las Espuelas]

http://www.power-skin.com/battery-cases/ap1516i72/samsung-galaxy-s-skyrocket.html

[Cry Havoc]

you sound perturbed.

did you hold off buying the iphone 4s for an extra 3+minutes to check out youtube because of my post?

sorry if that happened to you because of my bad joke

:lol backpedaling.

:lol not knowing what you talk about.

:lol iPhone 5.

[Drachen]

http://www.power-skin.com/battery-cases/ap1516i72/samsung-galaxy-s-skyrocket.html

These are pretty cool...

[resistanze]

I finally decided to give CyanogenMod 7 a try for my S2. While it seems to be pretty snappy and great on battery life, I'm experiencing much more FCs than I have in previous ROMs. In about a day of using it, I've already experienced probably a dozen FCs, while only expereincing maybe 1-2 in 3 weeks of using my other ROM. I'm not sure if this is due to the apps I restore with Titanium Backup, but it should be the case (even stock CM7 apps are crashing).

[Blake]

:lol backpedaling.

:lol not knowing what you talk about.

:lol iPhone 5.

:lol:lol not knowing what I'm talking about

[MannyIsGod]

Did you wipe everything before installing CM7?

[Cry Havoc]

:lol:lol not knowing what I'm talking about

Sorry, I thought that was you. I guess it was just a hologram.

[Blake]

Sorry, I thought that was you. I guess it was just a hologram.

so that makes two fails on your part.

[resistanze]

Did you wipe everything before installing CM7?

Correct, full wipe in CWM. I did restore a few google apps through titanium Backup then ended up flashing with the googleapps.zip in CWM, not sure if that caused a conflict.

Now as I type my data for some reason is not working at all. I'm gonna restore to my last ROM to check if it's my carrier, then I'll probably flash CM7 again from scratch.

[Drachen]

Correct, full wipe in CWM. I did restore a few google apps through titanium Backup then ended up flashing with the googleapps.zip in CWM, not sure if that caused a conflict.

Now as I type my data for some reason is not working at all. I'm gonna restore to my last ROM to check if it's my carrier, then I'll probably flash CM7 again from scratch.

Is CM7 for the SGII still in alpha (or beta)? This may be your issue.

[resistanze]

Is CM7 for the SGII still in alpha (or beta)? This may be your issue.

How would I find out? I don't think it is, it's 7.1.0 stable version.

[Drachen]

How would I find out? I don't think it is, it's 7.1.0 stable version.

I just took a look at cyanogenmod.com and it looks like the SGSII is past the beta phase. Maybe check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1204&order=desc&page=2 and see if there is any help to be had.

[resistanze]

I just took a look at cyanogenmod.com and it looks like the SGSII is past the beta phase. Maybe check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1204&order=desc&page=2 and see if there is any help to be had.

Yeah, I practivally live there now :lol

I'm just going to start with a new flash with the ROM, I didn't like the way my backups from titanium and the ones from google sync restored.

[Drachen]

Yeah, I practivally live there now :lol

I'm just going to start with a new flash with the ROM, I didn't like the way my backups from titanium and the ones from google sync restored.

What I do is I let google sync do its work, then restore "missing apps with data." Either that, or I turn off all internet connection (so google sync cannot do its work) then restore everything from titanium. Either way.

[lefty]

Holy crap @ all those Android headaches

Flash device, tweak, roms, kill aps, etc


WTF

[stretch]

lol apple fanboy

[lefty]

lol apple fanboy

Ah

[Drachen]

Holy crap @ all those Android headaches

Flash device, tweak, roms, kill aps, etc


WTF

I can say something like "Holy Crap Apple Headaches" then spew random words too.

"iTunes, Siri, Phone Calls, unicorns"


I just found it funny that you chose a few benefits, then followed it up with something that has nothing to do with 95% of android devices.

[Creepn]

How come some providers have better phone specs than other providers even though they are the same phone?

Like T-mobile galaxy phones are inferior to ATT galaxy phones.

[lefty]

I can say something like "Holy Crap Apple Headaches" then spew random words too.

"iTunes, Siri, Phone Calls, unicorns"


I just found it funny that you chose a few benefits, then followed it up with something that has nothing to do with 95% of android devices.

At least iOS is stable

[resistanze]

At least iOS is stable

Sorry brah, used iOS for 3 years, not going back.

[Drachen]

At least iOS is stable

Ok,

At least Android is stable too.

[resistanze]

It's no different to when I had the iPhone I would download custom firmware with resized system partitions, custom boot logo, etc. Only difference is that I was severely limited on what I could actually do.

[lefty]

Ok,

At least Android is stable too.

Hell no

BS :lol

[leemajors]

How come some providers have better phone specs than other providers even though they are the same phone?

Like T-mobile galaxy phones are inferior to ATT galaxy phones.

I am not sure, but I believe the carriers can request certain features either be turned off or not present, likely just turned off.

[Drachen]

Hell no

BS :lol

Hell yes

TS :lol

[Drachen]

How come some providers have better phone specs than other providers even though they are the same phone?

Like T-mobile galaxy phones are inferior to ATT galaxy phones.

Are they demonstrably different? (assuming you are talking about the galaxy S I) I know, for example, that the sprint galaxy s was different because they wanted a qwerty keyboard. Other than that was there a major difference?

[stretch]

Hell no

BS :lol

im not going to say Android is more stable than iOS, but on many android phones, its every bit as stable these days.

older android phones definitely had stability issues, but they have pretty much overcome that. between the time i have had using my phone and my wifes 4s, ive had just as many force closes on each phone, which is very very few (maybe 3-4 on each device, if that). I would probably still give the stability nod to iOS, slightly, but at the same time, if you left an android phone as simple and uncustomized as an iPhone, it would be just as stable.

[stretch]

and when it comes to killing apps, i dont even have to do that these days. i dont have a task killer on mine, because nearly all apps on my phone automatically close when i exit out. that has pretty much been overcome as well.

[leemajors]

OMG ANDROID PHONES NEED ANTIVIRUS SOFTWARE

http://lifehacker.com/5861757/do-android-antivirus-apps-actually-do-anything

[MannyIsGod]

At least iOS is stable

Android is stable too. What the hell are you talking about? He's installing a custom rom. This is why its better just to keep quiet sometimes.

[resistanze]

Are they demonstrably different? (assuming you are talking about the galaxy S I) I know, for example, that the sprint galaxy s was different because they wanted a qwerty keyboard. Other than that was there a major difference?

The T-Mobile uses the 1.5 Ghz Snapdragon dual core while the AT&T uses the Exynos 1.2 Ghz doal core found in the international version, I believe. Benchmarks show the Exynos to be a bit faster, but I doubt it's that noticable in real-world use.

[lefty]

Android is stable too. What the hell are you talking about? He's installing a custom rom. This is why its better just to keep quiet sometimes.
It's crap

lol overheating
lol background apps slowing down the devices
lol having to download task mangers and app killers
lol crashing


IOS might not be open source, but it fucking works

[resistanze]

It's crap

lol overheating
lol background apps slowing down the devices
lol having to download task mangers and app killers
lol crashing


IOS might not be open source, but it fucking works

you know a hell of a lot for a product you've never used :lol

brah don't worry you can switch over next summer :toast

[lefty]

I can say something like "Holy Crap Apple Headaches" then spew random words too.

"iTunes, Siri, Phone Calls, unicorns"


I just found it funny that you chose a few benefits, then followed it up with something that has nothing to do with 95% of android devices.


Android is stable too. What the hell are you talking about? He's installing a custom rom. This is why its better just to keep quiet sometimes.


you know a hell of a lot for a product you've never used :lol

brah don't worry you can switch over next summer :toast
http://operatorchan.org/vg/arch/src/vg74702_successful-troll.jpg

[MannyIsGod]

Hmm, ok. Posting bad information and then getting informed responses is trolling now. The bar has been set incredibly low.

[lefty]

Hmm, ok. Posting bad information and then getting informed responses is trolling now. The bar has been set incredibly low.
Bad info ?

Not so sure .....................

[leemajors]

you know a hell of a lot for a product you've never used :lol

brah don't worry you can switch over next summer :toast

I have read that new Razr gets fucking hot.

[Venti Quattro]

Get this app from apple: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/7-little-words/id431434152?mt=8

It'll kill you with in-app purchases but it's so fucking worth it

[leemajors]

Get this app from apple: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/7-little-words/id431434152?mt=8

It'll kill you with in-app purchases but it's so fucking worth it

that one is pretty awesome, and they even throw in some free updates every once in a while. finally realizing what the damn word is and feeling like a moron is refreshing sometimes. great to play when stoned

[Venti Quattro]

The game has 18 levels already. 17 x 50 paid levels + 30 on the free version. It's great for stoned and bored people tbqh. Seems they release new stages every month and their stage naming convention is weird.

Not for those who hate in-app purchases though. You will have to make a lot in this game.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Just received a software update notification from att on my phone!!!!!!!

[stretch]

yup got mine too. supposed to fix a bug in google search

[Viva Las Espuelas]

yup got mine too. supposed to fix a bug in google search

Oh. Not ICS?

[stretch]

lol no. that wont be for a few months most likely.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Dammit!
Nevermind.......

[resistanze]

Samsung’s New Galaxy S II Ad Takes A Shot At The Apple Cult [VIDEO]

http://www.redmondpie.com/samsungs-new-galaxy-s-ii-ad-takes-a-shot-at-the-apple-cult/


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:stirpot:

That nigguh who wrote the article is ass pained! :lol

[lefty]

If so many people line up for the iPhone, it means it's the better product


Samsung wish they had such lineups :lmao

Samsung and their fangirls butthurt :lol
Samsung bothering to make an anti-apple video :lol

[resistanze]

The fact that windows owns 90% of the PC market didn't stop Apple from making "I'm a Mac" commericals :lol

:lol Failed Logic
:lol hypocrites
:lmao BUTTHURT

C5z0Ia5jDt4

[lefty]

The fact that windows owns 90% of the PC market didn't stop Apple from making "I'm a Mac" commericals :lol

:lol Failed Logic
:lol hypocrites
:lmao BUTTHURT

C5z0Ia5jDt4
90% because PC'S are cheaper


PC is for poor people


Apple is for the good looking and rich people



Don't be bitter

[resistanze]

:lol Company telling consumers you're a faggot for owning a phone
:lol Actually getting ass pained about it
:lol You're a barista

[lefty]

:lol Company telling consumers you're a faggot for owning a phone

Yeah I agree; that was a pathetic move from butthurt Samsung :lol

[leemajors]

The fact that windows owns 90% of the PC market didn't stop Apple from making "I'm a Mac" commericals :lol

:lol Failed Logic
:lol hypocrites
:lmao BUTTHURT

C5z0Ia5jDt4

it's actually down closer to 80% now I believe. fyi my only mac is my work machine :lol

[Nathan Explosion]

The fact that windows owns 90% of the PC market didn't stop Apple from making "I'm a Mac" commericals :lol

:lol Failed Logic
:lol hypocrites
:lmao BUTTHURT

C5z0Ia5jDt4

Actually, I never agreed with Apple on those commercials (and I had an iBook at the time as well as a PC). You see, when you're the king, people go after you, targeting you. Think Microsoft, Budweiser or even Coke. Apple, made those commercials, Miller Lite is always saying that their beer has more taste than Bud (and then in the fine print it says that it doesn't reflect what people like, just that they thought it had more taste, good or bad), and even Pepsi has those Santa on vacation commercials aimed at Coke.

One of the perks (or bad things) about being #1 is everyone is after you.

Now, having said, and looking at the numbers, it appears that Apple is the top dog in manufacturing (not in OS as that's Android) with Samsung coming in second. So I'm assuming that that's probably one of the reasons for Samsung's commercial. If that's the case, it's a clear cut winner for Apple as it establishes who's the leader and who's the challenger. As Ric Flair would say, to be the man, you have to beat the man. By Samsung making these commercials, they've just said that Apple is the man.

But, I also suspect that Samsung is more than just a little angry with the whole court proceedings going on in Europe and how Apple is getting their products banned. That is probably just as much of a reason for the commercials.

[resistanze]

Actually, I never agreed with Apple on those commercials (and I had an iBook at the time as well as a PC). You see, when you're the king, people go after you, targeting you. Think Microsoft, Budweiser or even Coke. Apple, made those commercials, Miller Lite is always saying that their beer has more taste than Bud (and then in the fine print it says that it doesn't reflect what people like, just that they thought it had more taste, good or bad), and even Pepsi has those Santa on vacation commercials aimed at Coke.

One of the perks (or bad things) about being #1 is everyone is after you.

Now, having said, and looking at the numbers, it appears that Apple is the top dog in manufacturing (not in OS as that's Android) with Samsung coming in second. So I'm assuming that that's probably one of the reasons for Samsung's commercial. If that's the case, it's a clear cut winner for Apple as it establishes who's the leader and who's the challenger. As Ric Flair would say, to be the man, you have to beat the man. By Samsung making these commercials, they've just said that Apple is the man.

But, I also suspect that Samsung is more than just a little angry with the whole court proceedings going on in Europe and how Apple is getting their products banned. That is probably just as much of a reason for the commercials.

I don't think it matters either way, tbh. This commercial (nor any commercial that Samsung decided to make) won't really cause a shift in the market share of smartphones. I think people might be reading into these types of commercials too much.

Everyone knows the iPhone is a highest selling phone; everyone knows people line up for iPhones. This commmercial didn't uncover any dirty little secrets that will change anything with regard to sales. Samsung isn't going to take over the iPhone anytime soon with regards to sales, and commericals won't change that. People who want Galaxy S2 will buy it, and people who want iPhones will buy iPhones.

Considering the Galaxy sold 10 million phones before even being released on this of the Atlantic, they're not doing too bad themselves. If anything, this commercial might make some of the neutrals chuckle and maybe inquire a bit more.