Players without similar counterparts

[Leetonidas]

I was thinking about who is a comparable player to Manu Ginobili throughout league history and being that I don't know much about the older days before Jordan, I couldn't think of any player similar to Manu.

We know that Amare is reminiscent of a young McDyess, Kobe is similar to Michael, Derrick Rose seems to be in the AI mold, and while these aren't exact comparisons, they are still similar.

So what players do ya'll don't have a similar counterpart?

Dirk and Manu are the first two the come to my mind

[The ADMIRAL 50]

Tonys skill set is pretty unique from the pg position. Not particularly athletic, pretty small, and, at his best, absolutely unstoppable going to the rim and finishing without any derrick-rose-esque explosiveness. Really an underrated joy to behold.

[DMC]

I was thinking about who is a comparable player to Manu Ginobili throughout league history and being that I don't know much about the older days before Jordan, I couldn't think of any player similar to Manu.

We know that Amare is reminiscent of a young McDyess, Kobe is similar to Michael, Derrick Rose seems to be in the AI mold, and while these aren't exact comparisons, they are still similar.

So what players do ya'll don't have a similar counterpart?

Dirk and Manu are the first two the come to my mind
So you've been playing NBA Live 2010 eh? Where Marv asks "Steve, down through the years, can you think of anyone who plays like Manu Ginobili?" or something like that.

[DMC]

I was thinking about who is a comparable player to Manu Ginobili throughout league history and being that I don't know much about the older days before Jordan, I couldn't think of any player similar to Manu.

We know that Amare is reminiscent of a young McDyess, Kobe is similar to Michael, Derrick Rose seems to be in the AI mold, and while these aren't exact comparisons, they are still similar.

So what players do ya'll don't have a similar counterpart?

Dirk and Manu are the first two the come to my mind
Shaq.

He took two posers to the show and rung for both.

[Giuseppe]

Shaq.

He took two posers to the show and rung for both.

Then Kobe hunted him down and left him dead in the ground 5-4.

[hitmanyr2k]

I was thinking about who is a comparable player to Manu Ginobili throughout league history and being that I don't know much about the older days before Jordan, I couldn't think of any player similar to Manu.

Offensively Ginobili reminds me of a prime Jeff Hornacek. Both were/are good shooters (Hornacek definitely better though), had a herky jerky off-balanced style of playing, good passers, and they both had a knack for making impossible circus shots in the paint. Gino's defense was a lot better though.


Tonys skill set is pretty unique from the pg position. Not particularly athletic, pretty small, and, at his best, absolutely unstoppable going to the rim and finishing without any derrick-rose-esque explosiveness. Really an underrated joy to behold.

Parker reminds me of Kevin Johnson. Neither were terribly athletic but both used their speed to knife through defenses and get an edge on the break. KJ was a little better offensively and was by far the better playmaker and floor general.

Another good comparison would be Damon Stoudamire.

[DMC]

Then Kobe hunted him down and left him dead in the ground 5-4.

No,

Then Kobe sucked ass for a few years and threatened to quit, until Pau was acquired at which time the Lakers magically became number 1 contenders again.

[JoeTait75]

Counterpart to Manu? How about Andrew Toney?

[Giuseppe]

until Pau was acquired at which time the Lakers magically became number 1 contenders again.

Cept Pau couldn't win a single playoff game till Kobe took him in.

[DMC]

Cept Pau couldn't win a single playoff game till Kobe took him in.

It's like this:



Kobe with Shaq = ring x 3

Kobe without Shaq = PJ quits, Kobe threatens to quit (Shaq rings)

Kobe with Pau = ring x 2

Kobe with distracted Pau (Playoffs) = swept, PJ quits

[Giuseppe]

It's like this:



Kobe with Shaq = ring x 3

Kobe without Shaq = PJ quits, Kobe threatens to quit (Shaq rings)

Kobe with Pau = ring x 2

Kobe with distracted Pau (Playoffs) = swept, PJ quits

Boiled down:::

Kobe: 5

Daddy: 4

[JamStone]

Allen Iverson. Charles Barkley.

Manu is pretty unique. I think his slipperiness and dribbling allow him to handle the ball like a PG on offense, and he's one of the best players at mixing up driving ability, the ability to shoot, and the ability to create scoring opportunities for teammates that I've seen over the past decade. He's similar in ways to guys like Kobe or Vince or T-Mac. But also being left handed and not necessarily quite as athletic (although Manu is underrated there), I do think he is pretty special.

Dirk has an obvious comparison in Larry Bird. I'd also suggest that Dirk is what Toni Kukoc could have been had Kukoc started his NBA career when he was 20-21 and was on a team that let him be the franchise player they built around.

[Koolaid_Man]

Boiled down:::

Kobe: 5

Daddy: 4

or Kobe 2

Snaq 1

[Leetonidas]

Allen Iverson. Charles Barkley.

Manu is pretty unique. I think his slipperiness and dribbling allow him to handle the ball like a PG on offense, and he's one of the best players at mixing up driving ability, the ability to shoot, and the ability to create scoring opportunities for teammates that I've seen over the past decade. He's similar in ways to guys like Kobe or Vince or T-Mac. But also being left handed and not necessarily quite as athletic (although Manu is underrated there), I do think he is pretty special.

Dirk has an obvious comparison in Larry Bird. I'd also suggest that Dirk is what Toni Kukoc could have been had Kukoc started his NBA career when he was 20-21 and was on a team that let him be the franchise player they built around.

I've heard the Bird-Dirk comparison before but I never saw Larry play except for a few classic films, but other than them being white dudes who score how are they similar?

[JoeTait75]

Steve Nash = Mark Price

Tim Duncan = Bill Walton

Kevin Durant = George Gervin

[Koolaid_Man]

Steve Nash = Mark Price

Tim Duncan = Bill Walton

Kevin Durant = George Gervin

don't insult Bill...

Timmy = Brad Daugherty

[Snake Plissken]

I've heard the Bird-Dirk comparison before but I never saw Larry play except for a few classic films, but other than them being white dudes who score how are they similar?

Being white and scoring at will in the NBA is all the the similarity you need.

[JamStone]

I've heard the Bird-Dirk comparison before but I never saw Larry play except for a few classic films, but other than them being white dudes who score how are they similar?

PF size with excellent guard skills, particularly exceptional shooting, but also very solid at dribbling and passing. Both premier #1 go-to scorers. Both very good one-on-one players on offense. Neither noted as great defenders, but smart team defenders. Both very good rebounders, especially at the defensive end. Both relied more on skill than athleticism to produce, although both are more athletic than given credit for.

Both being tall and white is something that some people might think makes the comparison generic. But their games had plenty of similarities beyond that. And with the recent championship run, Dirk can also bring championship greatness into the comparison.

[DMC]

Boiled down:::

Kobe: 5

Daddy: 4

You cannot boil away facts, as much as you would like to.

[Giuseppe]

You cannot boil away facts, as much as you would like to.

I hold up my end pretty damn well.

[mavs>spurs]

i wouldn't really call kobe a "similar counterpart" to jordan, it's just funny to me

[DMC]

I hold up my end pretty damn well.
Not really. You just make repetitive, generic statements without any consideration for the facts. I think some here call it scoreboarding.

Proof by assertion is a logical fallacy, and no I am not bending over.

[Giuseppe]

Not really. You just make repetitive, generic statements without any consideration for the facts. I think some here call it scoreboarding.

Proof by assertion is a logical fallacy, and no I am not bending over.

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[baseline bum]

Parker is Strickland minus the baggage.

[Giuseppe]

Parker is a winner.

Strickland was a loser.

[DMC]

Glenn Robinson is a winner.

Kevin Durant was a loser.

[Giuseppe]

:rolleyes

[JoeTait75]

don't insult Bill...

Timmy = Brad Daugherty

0DR9rwLFhYI

[DMC]

:rolleyes = I have no retort

[Kai]

Honestly can't think of anyone that plays like Kevin Martin, which is a good thing. There's no room in the NBA for more than one praying mantis-jumpshot flopper.

[lefty]

Offensively Ginobili reminds me of a prime Jeff Hornacek. Both were/are good shooters (Hornacek definitely better though), had a herky jerky off-balanced style of playing, good passers, and they both had a knack for making impossible circus shots in the paint. Gino's defense was a lot better though.



Parker reminds me of Kevin Johnson. Neither were terribly athletic .
Holy crap


And I thought I've seen it all


And KJ wasnt particularly athletic? :lmao

I have to find those YT vids of TP dunking on Olajuwon and Hot Rod Williams

[cantthinkofanything]

Parker is Strickland minus the baggage.

and minus the court vision

[cantthinkofanything]

Holy crap


And I thought I've seen it all


And KJ wasnt particularly athletic? :lmao

I have to find those YT vids of TP dunking on Olajuwon and Hot Rod Williams

you beat me to it. I was trying to figure out if there was some other Kevin Johnson.

[cantthinkofanything]

also, the "Steve Nash = Mark Price" is pretty ridiculous

[hitmanyr2k]

Holy crap


And I thought I've seen it all


And KJ wasnt particularly athletic? :lmao

I have to find those YT vids of TP dunking on Olajuwon and Hot Rod Williams

Nah, KJ wasn't terribly athletic. His leap was mediocre and if he did dunk he usually had to take off near the rim or he wasn't going to make it lol. And I've always considered the dunk on Olajuwon overrated since he was late on the rotation and got caught under the rim where he couldn't really jump and challenge. KJ basically put his forearm in Olajuwon's chest and used him as a catapult to the rim. It made a routine dunk look better than it was.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Nah, KJ wasn't terribly athletic.
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao you are one retarded uncle tom

[Venti Quattro]

:lmao :lmao :lmao KJ wasn't athletic

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

so then who is lebron compared too? really dont want to say magic or Jordan because its really an insult to both of them.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Grant Hill is the guy most like Lebron. Stat whore with great court vision and athleticism but prefers to have fun instead of win.

The only difference is Grant Hill is smart enough to act white washed and extremely professional so people assume he wants to be a winner since people think all white athletes care about winning.

[Giuseppe]

:lmao :lmao :lmao KJ wasn't athletic

It's arguable. His legs were tighter than a nun's cunt on the Sabbath. He was stiff legged and his hamstrings were overdeveloped & troublesome throughout the years.