Judge William Adams beats his daughter with a belt for using the internet

[Cry Havoc]

Going viral right now.

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WARNING: NSFL.

This will fuck your day/night up if you watch it and are sensitive at all to these things.

[pawe]

I was going to comment that there's nothing wrong with that kind of discipline since I was disciplined that way too by my father using a bamboo rod when I was 10 but this is kinda weird since she is already 16.

[Cry Havoc]

I was going to comment that there's nothing wrong with that kind of discipline since I was disciplined that way too by my father using a bamboo rod when I was 10 but this is kinda weird since she is already 16.

So hitting a 10 year old full force with a belt is more acceptable?

[TinTin]

"The judge's wife was emotionally abused herself and was severely manipulated into assisting the beating and should not be blamed for any content in this video."

Didn't really look like that from the video and you can hear her say at the beginning that she had already spanked her. Hope, I am wrong

[CharlieMac]

You turn over like a 16 year old and take it?

I'm all about whipping a kid's ass for acting like a moron, but damn that girl got beat. Also, did she set her parents up? Messed up on so many levels.

[pawe]

So hitting a 10 year old full force with a belt is more acceptable?

Pussification of America. "Oh I've been hit by a belt in the butt because I keep on disobeying them over and over...I'll go complain since this is child abuse."

...And then people are going to complain about the youth today being so disrespectful and not having any values.

[tlongII]

I wonder how bad she got beat once her parents found out about the video?

[Bash]

My kinda judge...dishes out justice both day and night.

16 year old girls act like entitled little cunts till you get them in line.

Looks like parenting 101 to me. :tu

[Bash]

On a more positive note, think of the kinky s&m this girl's gonna get into in a few years as a result of this.

Everybody wins.

[4>0rings]

That judge went 1775 Southern honky on dat ass. :lmao

[mavs>spurs]

yeah i don't think it was the worst thing in the world probably just a little bit overkill as far as the question of "abuse" goes. all i know is that at 16 it may be a little old, at 16 i wouldn't have put up with it i would have just had to whoop some ass and live someplace else.

[Cry Havoc]

Pussification of America. "Oh I've been hit by a belt in the butt because I keep on disobeying them over and over...I'll go complain since this is child abuse."

...And then people are going to complain about the youth today being so disrespectful and not having any values.

Psychologically speaking, your mindset is one of complete ignorance. There is a plethora of data on this and it's not even worth arguing about if you aren't going to educate yourself.

[Summers]

It doesn't matter how many of you got beat like this and think you turned out just fine. Maybe you're justifying it because this is how you discipline your children. He was not disciplining her. He was physically hurting her and humiliating her. Did you hear her screaming in pain, begging him to stop? Did you hear him tell her she didn't deserve to live in his house? This is not about respect or teaching her not be a pussy or however it is you wanna say it was okay when your dad left welts on your leg. It is possible to raise kind, respectful, thoughtful, moral children without ever making them beg you to stop injuring them.

[Vici]

Psychologically speaking, your mindset is one of complete ignorance. There is a plethora of data on this and it's not even worth arguing about if you aren't going to educate yourself.


It doesn't matter how many of you got beat like this and think you turned out just fine. Maybe you're justifying it because this is how you discipline your children. He was not disciplining her. He was physically hurting her and humiliating her. Did you hear her screaming in pain, begging him to stop? Did you hear him tell her she didn't deserve to live in his house? This is not about respect or teaching her not be a pussy or however it is you wanna say it was okay when your dad left welts on your leg. It is possible to raise kind, respectful, thoughtful, moral children without ever making them beg you to stop injuring them.


+1

Pathetic.

[Bash]

He was physically hurting her and humiliating her. Did you hear her screaming in pain, begging him to stop?

Yeah, that gave me a hard-on

[DMC]

looked like an asswhoopin' to me. Didn't bother her too much, she still got online.

And mom is playing both sides.

Typical household tbh.

[Landon Donofag]

Pussification of America. "Oh I've been hit by a belt in the butt because I keep on disobeying them over and over...I'll go complain since this is child abuse."

...And then people are going to complain about the youth today being so disrespectful and not having any values.

Guys he's a chink. They get their asses beat if they bring home a B.

[DMC]

It doesn't matter how many of you got beat like this and think you turned out just fine. Maybe you're justifying it because this is how you discipline your children. He was not disciplining her. He was physically hurting her and humiliating her. Did you hear her screaming in pain, begging him to stop? Did you hear him tell her she didn't deserve to live in his house? This is not about respect or teaching her not be a pussy or however it is you wanna say it was okay when your dad left welts on your leg. It is possible to raise kind, respectful, thoughtful, moral children without ever making them beg you to stop injuring them.

Your last statement is true, but it's not all inclusive. Some kids just need their ass whipped. She's 16, ok, leave home if it bothers her that much. Obviously she doesn't give a shit what her parents say.

[DMC]

So hitting a 10 year old full force with a belt is more acceptable?
Young people will freak out, older people just say "eh, she should have turned over".

[Summers]

Your last statement is true, but it's not all inclusive. Some kids just need their ass whipped. She's 16, ok, leave home if it bothers her that much. Obviously she doesn't give a shit what her parents say.

That's bullshit. Where's she supposed to go at 16? It's their job to take care of her and they're doing a bad job. The punishment didn't fit the crime. She's going to resent the crap out of that when she's an adult and probably put her parents in the cheapest nursing home she can find some day.

Edited to add that in my experience (I've done a bit of babysitting) the kids who act like they "need their ass whipped" are the ones who are routinely getting "disciplined" with beatings. An acquaintance of ours bragged to me once about beating the shit out of her two-year-old for saying the word "fuck". I guess she showed him how to behave like a respectful person.

[DMC]

That's bullshit. Where's she supposed to go at 16? It's their job to take care of her and they're doing a bad job. The punishment didn't fit the crime. She's going to resent the crap out of that when she's an adult and probably put her parents in the cheapest nursing home she can find some day.

Same place I was supposed to go at 16. If she's too grown up to mind her parents, she's ready to leave. You cannot have it both ways.

She's not your kid under your rules, so you cannot say whether or not the punishment fit the crime. You speak of morals but then where do your morals originate?



Edited to add that in my experience (I've done a bit of babysitting) the kids who act like they "need their ass whipped" are the ones who are routinely getting "disciplined" with beatings. An acquaintance of ours bragged to me once about beating the shit out of her two-year-old for saying the word "fuck". I guess she showed him how to behave like a respectful person.
So you don't have kids?

[Cry Havoc]

Young people will freak out, older people just say "eh, she should have turned over".

The difference is, the young people in this case would have scientific evidence as backing for their viewpoint, while the older people are basically using past precedent as justification for criminal behavior. "My dad gave me second degree burns to discipline me, and it worked just fine!"

[Spurminator]

That shit ain't spanking. You can be okay with a good disciplinary belt-whipping if you want, but this is arguably abuse. Daddy's taking a little too much pleasure in this, IMO

With that said, this is not at all unusual in a lot of areas, and you're going to find a lot of people who won't think it's a big deal. The Fox News crowd, for example, will probably be more offended by the F-bombs than the beating.

[Summers]

You speak of morals but then where do your morals originate?


So you don't have kids?

I have two boys. They have morals because we model and teach moral in our house. Crazy shit, I know.

[DMC]

The difference is, the young people in this case would have scientific evidence as backing for their viewpoint, while the older people are basically using past precedent as justification for criminal behavior. "My dad gave me second degree burns to discipline me, and it worked just fine!"
Scientific evidence, but no experience in the matter.

They read about it so they are experts.

[Cry Havoc]

She's not your kid under your rules, so you cannot say whether or not the punishment fit the crime.

Actually, you can:

http://www.childwelfare.gov/systemwide/laws_policies/statutes/define.cfm

Educate yourself.

[DMC]

I have two boys. They have morals because we model and teach moral in our house. Crazy shit, I know.
Where do your morals originate?

[Cry Havoc]

Scientific evidence, but no experience in the matter.

They read about it so they are experts.

So you're saying anecdotal evidence trumps copious amounts of scientific data? I just want to be clear the level of justification you're using here.

[DMC]

Actually, you can:

http://www.childwelfare.gov/systemwide/laws_policies/statutes/define.cfm

Educate yourself.
"Physical discipline, such as spanking or paddling, is not considered abuse as long as it is reasonable and causes no bodily injury to the child."

Texas Physical Abuse:

...excluding
an accident or reasonable discipline by a parent, guardian, or conservator that does not expose the child to a
substantial risk of harm.

Ass whipping with a belt does not lead to a substantial risk of harm.

Maybe you should read it yourself before posting it with a smug attitude.

Now you have to define "reasonable".

[Summers]

Where do your morals originate?

Are you really turning a debate about abuse into a morality argument? I don't understand your question.

[DMC]

So you're saying anecdotal evidence trumps copious amounts of scientific data? I just want to be clear the level of justification you're using here.
Depends on who's deciphering the data.

I don't need justification, it's not my child.

Besides, it's his daughter, not yours. Last I checked parents had the right to teach their system of morality to their children, and to enforce their rules.

Obviously you and many others here have never seen a real "abused" child.

Also, you guys probably didn't go to school when paddling was in effect. Ask your parents.

[Summers]

Unless you're implying children should be raised to do what they're told out of fear instead of making reasonable judgments for themselves about what is right and wrong.

[Cry Havoc]

"Physical discipline, such as spanking or paddling, is not considered abuse as long as it is reasonable and causes no bodily injury to the child."

"Well geepers paw, she's not physically injured, we didn't even break her jaw!"

Are you that fucking dense that you think repeated whippings with a belt will not cause physical injury? Are you SERIOUSLY trying to argue that position?

[DMC]

Unless you're implying children should be raised to do what they're told out of fear instead of making reasonable judgments for themselves about what is right and wrong.

Raising a kid is about getting them to their adult lives with the tools they need to survive. It's not about making friends. A parent isn't a buddy, but a mentor.

Do all adults not drive drunk because of reasonable judgment, or do some of them not do it because they fear the repercussions?

[DMC]

"Well geepers paw, she's not physically injured, we didn't even break her jaw!"

Are you that fucking dense that you think repeated whippings with a belt will not cause physical injury? Are you SERIOUSLY trying to argue that position?
It's your link dude, you explain it. I just pointed it out to you since, in your haste to prove a point, you didn't even read it.

[Bash]

It's pretty telling that only the women in this thread (summers, cry havoc, etc) have a problem with this kind of discipline. Would you feel differently if it was a boy getting the belt?

Either way, i think people are overreacting a bit too much to what appears to be an isolated incident, and not the norm.

[Summers]

Obviously you and many others here have never seen a real "abused" child.



I grew up in a house like that and I learned what hypocrite assholes my parents are. It turns my stomach that you're defending that behavior.

[DMC]

I grew up in a house like that and I learned what hypocrite assholes my parents are. It turns my stomach that you're defending that behavior.

How old were you when you left?

[Stringer_Bell]

I'm finding it incredibly difficult to be disturbed by such an obviously set-up video. This shit looks on par with "reality porn" except for the "reality torture" crowd...and it fails on that level too because I don't see how anyone could get there rocks off on it either. Simply doesn't look authentic enough, gotta get a better storyline than beating a mentally ill kid over some internet downloads.

[Summers]

Raising a kid is about getting them to their adult lives with the tools they need to survive. It's not about making friends. A parent isn't a buddy, but a mentor.

Do all adults not drive drunk because of reasonable judgment, or do some of them not do it because they fear the repercussions?

I know what it means to raise kids. I'm doing a fine job of it if I do say so myself. I don't want my kids to be violent idiots when they go off to college. I don't want them to believe everything they're told as adults because they were too scared to question me as a child. I don't want them to beat their wives or kids just because they can. And yes, I'd feel the same way if it was a boy in the video. I'd almost give the belt-beating a pass if the child had punched his or her mom the face when she asked him to wash up for dinner. But a beating for downloading a game on the computer? Really? And then to tell her the computer is the reason there's drama in the house? Really, you don't think it's because you're bat-shit crazy and beating your kid?

[Cry Havoc]

It's your link dude, you explain it. I just pointed it out to you since, in your haste to prove a point, you didn't even read it.

So basically you're not arguing, you're just posting to prove you can read. Got it.

You still lose. Your position has no scientific basis and every DCFS branch in the US would be all over you if you did this to your kids and they found out.

[DMC]

I know what it means to raise kids. I'm doing a fine job of it if I do say so myself. I don't want my kids to be violent idiots when they go off to college. I don't want them to believe everything they're told as adults because they were too scared to question me as a child. I don't want them to beat their wives or kids just because they can. And yes, I'd feel the same way if it was a boy in the video. I'd almost give the belt-beating a pass if the child had punched his or her mom the face when she asked him to wash up for dinner. But a beating for downloading a game on the computer? Really? And then to tell her the computer is the reason there's drama in the house? Really, you don't think it's because you're bat-shit crazy and beating your kid?
If it's ok to beat a kid for hitting mom, it's ok to beat a kid. Now were down to haggling over morals.

Again, where did your morals originate?

Also, you don't even know the story. Way to pass judgment based on a video clip the girl obviously set up knowing she was going to get her ass whipped for violating rules.

[Bash]

Illegal activity in a house of justice can be damning to her father's career.

[Cry Havoc]

Raising a kid is about getting them to their adult lives with the tools they need to survive. It's not about making friends. A parent isn't a buddy, but a mentor.

Yeah, it takes a really awesome parent to have to resort to repeatedly whipping a child to attempt to modify their behavior! :lol


Do all adults not drive drunk because of reasonable judgment, or do some of them not do it because they fear the repercussions?

Personally I don't drive drunk because it's a phenomenally stupid thing to do. Maybe that's just me? But no you're right, fear of punishment is the ONLY thing that guides adult behavior. :lmao Do you even listen to yourself?

[DMC]

So basically you're not arguing, you're just posting to prove you can read. Got it.

Follow the thread, see the part where you posted that link all smug like you had it nailed? Well you didn't read it first. It helps to read what you are using as a rebuttal.


You still lose. Your position has no scientific basis and every DCFS branch in the US would be all over you if you did this to your kids and they found out.
:lmao

I just copy and pasted what was in the link you posted.

Your assertion is just a guess and there's absolutely zero evidence to support it (ironic that you mention "scientific basis" right before you throw out that baseless assertion).

[DMC]

Yeah, it takes a really awesome parent to have to resort to repeatedly whipping a child to attempt to modify their behavior! :lol

When you get one, let me know how it goes.


Personally I don't drive drunk because it's a phenomenally stupid thing to do. Maybe that's just me? But no you're right, fear of punishment is the ONLY thing that guides adult behavior. :lmao Do you even listen to yourself?
Your trolling attempts are as shitty as your reading comprehension skills.

There's a reason I said "some of them".

Are you now trying to build a case against the concept of deterrence?

[Cry Havoc]

Follow the thread, see the part where you posted that link all smug like you had it nailed? Well you didn't read it first. It helps to read what you are using as a rebuttal.

And what I posted is perfectly accurate. Go find a doctor who will tell you that repeated lashes with a belt won't cause physical injury. By all means go try to find one. :lol


Your assertion is just a guess and there's absolutely zero evidence to support it (ironic that you mention "scientific basis" right before you throw out that baseless assertion).

Yes, thank you for pointing this out and agreeing with me. Your position has no scientific basis. We're all in agreement then.

[DMC]

And what I posted is perfectly accurate. Go find a doctor who will tell you that repeated lashes with a belt won't cause physical injury. By all means go try to find one. :lol

Don't forget the term "substantial".

People have gotten their asses whipped forever. Welts aren't the same as "substantial physical injury". If you think they are, you haven't experienced abuse.


Yes, thank you for pointing this out and agreeing with me. Your position has no scientific basis. We're all in agreement then.
Shitty troll job number 2.

Do you always become a little bitch when you are defeated?

[Cry Havoc]

When you get one, let me know how it goes.

I don't plan on ever going to jail for whipping my kids. Are you saying that it's justified?


Your trolling attempts are as shitty as your reading comprehension skills.

There's a reason I said "some of them".

Are you now trying to build a case against the concept of deterrence?

Exactly. Deterrence. Not "if you break the law we are going to whip you endlessly". Those who don't drink and drive out of fear of the legal system are worried about losing their license and going to prison, NOT being held down by a deputy and having their face smashed with a nightstick. Why do you think that is? Because physical deterrence has been determined to be inhumane. Moreover, they aren't as effective as other forms of reinforcement.

Your comparisons are absurd.

Continue being wrong. :lol Continue citing sources that further solidify the position I initially stated. :lol

[Coach Buzzcut]

Illegal activity in a house of justice can be damning to her father's career.

If you were funny, I'd tell you to get your Hollywood ass in the troll forum. Instead how bout you just stop posting?

[Cry Havoc]

Do you always become a little bitch when you are defeated?

Do you always get so mad when you're so wrong about a topic and have no education to back up your baseless opinions? :lmao DONT WHIP ME BRO! :lmao

[DMC]

I don't plan on ever going to jail for whipping my kids. Are you saying that it's justified?

I don't know anyone who went to jail for whipping their kid.

Since you like playing little word games, be more specific. What do you mean "it's justified"? What's justified?


Exactly. Deterrence. Not "if you break the law we are going to whip you endlessly". Those who don't drink and drive out of fear of the legal system are worried about losing their license and going to prison, NOT being held down by a deputy and smashed with a nightstick. Why do you think that is? Because physical deterrence has been determined to be inhumane. Moreover, they aren't as effective as other forms of reinforcement.

If you drive drunk, you are going to do some time, pay some money, regret it. You will be punished if you are caught.

She wasn't whipped endlessly. It had a beginning and an end. It wasn't any different than any other ass whipping, in fact, I would say it was relatively mild considering.


Your comparisons are absurd.
Only to the ignorant.

[DMC]

Do you always get so mad when you're so wrong about a topic and have no education to back up your baseless opinions? :lmao DONT WHIP ME BRO! :lmao
Shitty troll attempt #3

Read the material first so I don't have to educate you on your own shit.

[Cry Havoc]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_abuse


Child abuse is the physical, sexual, emotional mistreatment, or neglect of a child.[1] In the United States, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Department of Children And Families (DCF) define child maltreatment as any act or series of acts of commission or omission by a parent or other caregiver that results in harm, potential for harm, or threat of harm to a child.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_abuse


Physical abuse is abuse involving contact intended to cause feelings of intimidation, injury, or other physical suffering or bodily harm.[1][2]


Night people. Had enough of DMC. Arguing with an idiot doesn't make me any smarter. :lol

[DMC]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_abuse



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_abuse




Night people. Had enough of DMC. Arguing with an idiot doesn't make me any smarter. :lol
Maybe reading the material you select to support your weak stance would make your smarter.

Unfortunately for you, the court will not consult Wikipedia for the answers.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

That was way the fuck overboard.

[pawe]

Did you hear her screaming in pain, begging him to stop?

I'll cry and beg for mercy too if I know the camera is on me.


Night people. Had enough of DMC. Arguing with an idiot doesn't make me any smarter. :lol

You called me ignorant, you called DMC an idiot. Why are you so insecure that you have to call people names while discussing a subject? We get it, you're the most intelligent person in the world so lighten up a little, this aint mensa.org

[Bender]

so what's the story on the camera... did she set him up?

[pawe]

Not confirmed but i read in a different board that she set the video up and it happened 7 yrs ago. She kept it but uploaded it just now when the dad harrassed the girl on the phone.

[JMarkJohns]

As someone who was spanked, and who still believes in its value when done right, this is a disgusting display and is not punishment, but abuse. There is nothing redeeming about these actions. So much wrong here it's not even worth talking about. And again, this is from someone who would spank if the course of action called for it.

[SA210]

This will fuck your day/night up if you watch it and are sensitive at all to these things.

Damn, i wish I had it that good when I was younger.

[Nathan89]

DMC embarrassing people...

Also who knows the results of those whips. It could just be a loud noise. The girl was also not complying with punishment and everyone know if you don't comply with a punishment it's only going to be worse.

[koriwhat]

So hitting a 10 year old full force with a belt is more acceptable?

god damn you're such a big fat cunt... i mean, pussy.

[Gutter92]

ITT: It's cool to beat your disabled daughter as long as she learns a lesson




http://gawker.com/5855478/reddit-video-apparently-shows-texas-family-judge-beating-disabled-daughter

[Dex]

I was spanked as a kid, even with a belt sometimes, and it never once looked like that. My parents never shoved me around, never hit me anywhere but my ass, and never let it carry on for more than maybe 15 seconds. It also stopped once my parents had more sensible ways of punishing me, like grounding me, withholding my allowance, or taking away privileges.

It still taught me my lessons and turned me into a responsible adult, and though I'm sure I didn't like it as a kid, I never begrudged my parents for it growing up.

I also dated a girl for about four years whose father found it acceptable to shove, slap, and throw objects at both her and her mother, and I found myself in several heated altercations with him because of it. That type of behavior is downright unacceptable and despicable.

It doesn't take a genius to recognize the difference between discipline and abuse, and this is obviously crossing that line. For those of you who seem to find this acceptable, I feel sorry for you if that's the way your parents raised you, and I hope you either never have kids of your own, and if you do, I despise anyone who chooses to pass that hateful behavior on to them.

[koriwhat]

id spank my kid too if they played those gay ass mmorpg's!

btw, a belt? :lmao

that ain't shit.

[CubanSucks]

40 years ago when my mom was growing up and getting the same treatment this wouldn't have been an issue. Shit, I'll even joke with her about her belt experiences. I believe they went overboard with it, but if you find this even some what disturbing then I wanna know what world you live in. My sisters got spankings with a big wooden spoon when they were growing up and I was just a little kid. I heard them scream and cry and I grew up knowing never to talk back, sass, or disobey. The difference was they had a set number of swats and then that was it.

Cry havoc, you need to fucking grow a pair. I've heard all the kinds of scientific data that you've yet to post and it's a bunch of modern over diagnosed bullshit (no specific data, I've just been fed the same crap in different sociology and psychology classes) and it gives liberal nanny state loving faggots like you a hard on.

again, I think they went overboard, but when you get riled up over stuff like this you're just marginalizing real child abuse

[mouse]

scientific evidence
:lmao

[Sense]

I was spanked pretty badly as a kid.. quite a lot... and I fought with my brother pretty bad all the time too.. with time my dad just decided not to "spank" us anymore, since our fights were worse, and he knew he couldn't hurt us anymore.

I guess it's different with white people... everyone always screams "ABUSE!" ...

Ehh whatever...

[Cry Havoc]

I was spanked as a kid, even with a belt sometimes, and it never once looked like that. My parents never shoved me around, never hit me anywhere but my ass, and never let it carry on for more than maybe 15 seconds. It also stopped once my parents had more sensible ways of punishing me, like grounding me, withholding my allowance, or taking away privileges.

It still taught me my lessons and turned me into a responsible adult, and though I'm sure I didn't like it as a kid, I never begrudged my parents for it growing up.

I also dated a girl for about four years whose father found it acceptable to shove, slap, and throw objects at both her and her mother, and I found myself in several heated altercations with him because of it. That type of behavior is downright unacceptable and despicable.

It doesn't take a genius to recognize the difference between discipline and abuse, and this is obviously crossing that line. For those of you who seem to find this acceptable, I feel sorry for you if that's the way your parents raised you, and I hope you either never have kids of your own, and if you do, I despise anyone who chooses to pass that hateful behavior on to them.

[greyforest]

so what's the story on the camera... did she set him up?

Yep. The video is several years old, so the statute of limitations applies as far as pressing charges. Still, this has already gone viral to the point where the old man will have a stained reputation for the rest of his sadistic life.

[koriwhat]

CryBaby would've never made it a day at that gym i used to frequent... his little pussy would've been bleeding day one.

oh no, a belt! shit... a belt was the least of my concerns growing up in a 1 parent household but guess what, my mother is awesome and i love telling the stories about how she used to kick my ass as a kid. a belt? shit... try a phone over the head, heals and keys thrown at you, and laughing while she spanked my brother and i with our toys but she got smart quick and made of cringe from time to time.

pussy ass kids these days and even bigger pussies like CryBaby are ruining society.

[benefactor]

As someone who was spanked, and who still believes in its value when done right, this is a disgusting display and is not punishment, but abuse. There is nothing redeeming about these actions. So much wrong here it's not even worth talking about. And again, this is from someone who would spank if the course of action called for it.
:tu

[jag]

DMC with some impressive work in this thread. He's got me thinking about taking a belt to someone here at work just to make them a better person.

My take on the whole thing has more to do with the fact that it's a girl getting the ass beating. The majority of boys need beatings until they're about 25 years old if they're going to be productive members of society. At some point you stop getting those beating from your parents and start getting them from random strangers when you run your mouth or say the wrong shit to someone at a bar. Whether at 10 years old or 30 years old, sooner or later you'll learn to act right as a means to avoid violent ass-beatings.

Girls are different. When it comes to girls, your main goal as a father is to keep the number of blowjobs she deals out to single digits. I can't even imagine spanking a 16 year old girl. You can't expect her to act like an adult when you're still giving out spankings. The older the children are, the harder you gotta whip dat ass because their pain threshold is much higher than when they were 9. So if you really want to get through to a 16 year old, you got to get violent on that shit. And getting that way with a 16 year old girl doesn't seem healthy for anyone. This isn't even taking into account the fact that she's going to spend the next 10 years choking on every wiener she can get her hands on just to spite you.

Now keep in mind, I don't have any children. But you can rest assured that when I do have children they will fear me.

[jeebus]

if she just listened to him, this video would've been about 10 seconds long. meh.

[RandomGuy]

Pussification of America. "Oh I've been hit by a belt in the butt because I keep on disobeying them over and over...I'll go complain since this is child abuse."

...And then people are going to complain about the youth today being so disrespectful and not having any values.

Bullshit.

People have been bitching about that since the time of Plato and before.

The best studies and scientific evidence we have says that you don't really truly need to do any spanking, all you need to do is set limits, and clear rules that are consistantly and fairly enforced.

It isn't rocket science.

[RandomGuy]

CryBaby would've never made it a day at that gym i used to frequent... his little pussy would've been bleeding day one.

oh no, a belt! shit... a belt was the least of my concerns growing up in a 1 parent household but guess what, my mother is awesome and i love telling the stories about how she used to kick my ass as a kid. a belt? shit... try a phone over the head, heals and keys thrown at you, and laughing while she spanked my brother and i with our toys but she got smart quick and made of cringe from time to time.

pussy ass kids these days and even bigger pussies like CryBaby are ruining society.

What ruins societies is when they chose irrational beliefs in the face of scientific/real world evidence.

I would take what works over some one elses feel-good rants any day.

[pawe]

Bullshit.

People have been bitching about that since the time of Plato and before.

The best studies and scientific evidence we have says that you don't really truly need to do any spanking, all you need to do is set limits, and clear rules that are consistantly and fairly enforced.

It isn't rocket science.

Then how come children here in America are so entitled, talks back to their mothers, fights with their fathers, disobeys authority and does not give a shit about other people's properties compared to kids in discipline through spanking cultures like in Asian countries and Mexico...or not even countries, let's compare to older times where parents can still spank their children and not get in trouble with Child Protection Services?

Again, a few whips of a belt in the butt will not kill a 10 yr old child and it will instill discipline.
The problem with this video is she is already 16 and maybe a punishment of setting limits instead of spanking will work for her age now.

[jag]

Bullshit.

People have been bitching about that since the time of Plato and before.

The best studies and scientific evidence we have says that you don't really truly need to do any spanking, all you need to do is set limits, and clear rules that are consistantly and fairly enforced.

It isn't rocket science.

You're right, this isn't rocket science. What you said (bolded) was hardly groundbreaking stuff. The real discussion involves how these limits and "clear rules" should be enforced.

You can treat children like intelligent, sophisticated adults, but what happens when your 9 year old tells you to fuck off and throws hot spaghetti sauce on his mom? Do you sit him down and tell him how mean and disrespectful that is? The kid already knows it was mean and disrespectful, that's why he did it.

Grab a belt and give that little bastard the beating of his life and all the sudden the clear rules and limits you've set will start to make sense.

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[SA210]

DMC with some impressive work in this thread. He's got me thinking about taking a belt to someone here at work just to make them a better person.

My take on the whole thing has more to do with the fact that it's a girl getting the ass beating. The majority of boys need beatings until they're about 25 years old if they're going to be productive members of society. At some point you stop getting those beating from your parents and start getting them from random strangers when you run your mouth or say the wrong shit to someone at a bar. Whether at 10 years old or 30 years old, sooner or later you'll learn to act right as a means to avoid violent ass-beatings.

Girls are different. When it comes to girls, your main goal as a father is to keep the number of blowjobs she deals out to single digits. I can't even imagine spanking a 16 year old girl. You can't expect her to act like an adult when you're still giving out spankings. The older the children are, the harder you gotta whip dat ass because their pain threshold is much higher than when they were 9. So if you really want to get through to a 16 year old, you got to get violent on that shit. And getting that way with a 16 year old girl doesn't seem healthy for anyone. This isn't even taking into account the fact that she's going to spend the next 10 years choking on every wiener she can get her hands on just to spite you.

Now keep in mind, I don't have any children. But you can rest assured that when I do have children they will fear me.

:lol :toast

[SA210]

if she just listened to him, this video would've been about 10 seconds long. meh.

:tu

[SA210]

You're right, this isn't rocket science. What you said (bolded) was hardly groundbreaking stuff. The real discussion involves how these limits and "clear rules" should be enforced.

You can treat children like intelligent, sophisticated adults, but what happens when your 9 year old tells you to fuck off and throws hot spaghetti sauce on his mom? Do you sit him down and tell him how mean and disrespectful that is? The kid already knows it was mean and disrespectful, that's why he did it.

Grab a belt and give that little bastard the beating of his life and all the sudden the clear rules and limits you've set will start to make sense.

Exactly. I'm a very liberal guy, but not in the household or with raising children in todays horrible society with the horrible influences out there. If a whoopin is in order, the whoopin will happen. I don't ever have to spank my kid anymore, but I will and have in the past. She's respectful enough because she knows I'll lay the smack down if she gets out of line like these horrible brats running this country, and we have conversations and talk about values, etc. We have a loving relationship, any spanking she ever got never changed that.

But I'll tell you what, not my kid, but there are kids who won't listen to a simple time out, or a "go to your room". I say it's time to get to whoopin in those cases. :ihit

[bus driver]

Exactly. I'm a very liberal guy, but not in the household or with raising children in todays horrible society with the horrible influences out there. If a whoopin is in order, the whoopin will happen. I don't ever have to spank my kid anymore, but I will and have in the past. She's respectful enough because she knows I'll lay the smack down if she gets out of line like these horrible brats running this country, and we have conversations and talk about values, etc. We have a loving relationship, any spanking she ever got never changed that.

But I'll tell you what, not my kid, but there are kids who won't listen to a simple time out, or a "go to your room". I say it's time to get to whoopin in those cases. :ihit

:clap


now this is child abuse....

SAN ANTONIO -- An East Side mother is accused of taking out her anger on her 3-year-old daughter, leaving her with internal injuries, an arrest affidavit stated.
According to the affidavit, a relative told police that Jennifer Alfaro 24, punched the child in the stomach, causing a severed colon and related infection.
Doctors discovered the injuries Tuesday when Alesha Alfaro was taken to University Hospital, where she was being treated in the Intensive Care Unit.
The affidavit stated Alfaro at first told hospital workers that her daughter was injured when a dresser fell on her.
But a relative disputed the story, saying Alfaro had confessed to her that she punched the girl after she became irate during a fight with her husband on Monday, the affidavit stated.
Alfaro was arrested on a charge of assault causing serious bodily injury to a child. Alfaro was being held on a $100,000 bond, the affidavit stated.

[SA210]

:clap


now this is child abuse....

SAN ANTONIO -- An East Side mother is accused of taking out her anger on her 3-year-old daughter, leaving her with internal injuries, an arrest affidavit stated.
According to the affidavit, a relative told police that Jennifer Alfaro 24, punched the child in the stomach, causing a severed colon and related infection.
Doctors discovered the injuries Tuesday when Alesha Alfaro was taken to University Hospital, where she was being treated in the Intensive Care Unit.
The affidavit stated Alfaro at first told hospital workers that her daughter was injured when a dresser fell on her.
But a relative disputed the story, saying Alfaro had confessed to her that she punched the girl after she became irate during a fight with her husband on Monday, the affidavit stated.
Alfaro was arrested on a charge of assault causing serious bodily injury to a child. Alfaro was being held on a $100,000 bond, the affidavit stated.

Exactly, now that is some sick stuff right there. As long as people make huge issues about the other story which to me isnt a huge deal AT ALL, then it takes away from real abuse like this one. That first vid, pfft. whatever. People keep complaining about soft shit like that, then that turns into making you look bad to even say anything to your kid, the rules will just keep changing and changing. It is pussification, it just is.

Now this story on the 3 year old, that's some abuse for you.

[jag]

The 3-year-old girl shouldn't have been talkin all that shit.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Wow DMC with a brutal ownage in this one. Cry Havoc you seriously are coming off as if you have zero personal experience with either spanking or child abuse. How can anyone truly pass judgment on this, we only know one snap shot point of view of this story from the girl. Meh

[pawe]

Wow DMC with a brutal ownage in this one. Cry Havoc you seriously are coming off as if you have zero personal experience with either spanking or child abuse. How can anyone truly pass judgment on this, we only know one snap shot point of view of this story from the girl. Meh

Just wait, the highly intelligent Cry Havoc is going to wikipedia what really happened in the video.

[Dex]

Let's review the arguments made in this thread:

My parents did worse to me: It's this type of thinking the breeds abuse in the first place. Rather than taking the high road and teaching your kids better, you'd be content just to do the same to them because :cry I had to deal with it :cry, and so will your children and your children's children, thanks to you. Bad parents raise kids who grow up to be bad parents.

She didn't go the ICU, so obviously it's not abuse: So I guess we have to wait for bones to get broken before it's considered over the line? What about this video (or the various other news reports of Adams beating his wife and kid) leads you to believe that this wasn't a regular occurrence? What makes you think it was never worse than what we saw on this one particular occasion? If something possessed this girl to make and leak a video of her own father, I'd have to assume this sort of thing was happening with pretty good regularity. All we have to judge from the video are the sounds of the strikes, but from the sounds of it, those were hard enough to leave a mark. Start leaving bruises or welts on your kid, and the CPS will start to intervene, and rightfully so.

Parents used to beat their kids all the time: Yeah, we also used to be cavemen who ate rocks in our food. We used to think the world was flat, and boil criminals and heretics in hot water and oil. We used to think it was okay to send people who were different than us to concentration camps or shove them to the back of the bus. The fact that something USED to happen does not make it any less barbaric for today's society, unless you don't believe in the progression of the human race.

She got what she deserved because she didn't bend over: So making the pain more severe is the obvious response to that, right? What if whipping her legs and stomach didn't work? I guess start taking shots to the face. If that doesn't work, lose the belt and start using a fist. If that doesn't work, throw her down the stairs. That'll teach her a lesson.

Quite frankly, if you're trying to spank a child who is old enough to willfully refuse it, it's time to find a new form of punishment, not just raise the pain level and humiliation factor. And I'm not even going to get into the comments that he made while doing it, or the pleasure that he seemed to take in "laying down the law". Anyone who thinks it's normal to spank a 16-year-old, mentally disabled girl has issues.

All kids are little shits because they aren't beat: No, kids are out of control because parents either don't discipline them at all, or try to medicate what would otherwise be considered regular childhood tendencies.

It's not that hard to discipline a kid without laying a finger on them. And quite frankly, that was more effective for me when I was growing up. By the time I was like 6, I realized that my parents weren't going to kill me with a spanking and it was only going to hurt for a short period of time, so it lost its effectiveness, and my parents realized that. Raising the pain level is not the proper response. Now threatening me with a month of no TV, or no friends, or no car? That set my ass straight real quick.

In my opinion, if you're too short-sighted or moronic to find a way to handle your kids without striking them, then you probably shouldn't have had kids in the first place. If you feel differently , feel free to make your case, but don't expect me to respect your opinion.


CryBaby would've never made it a day at that gym i used to frequent... his little pussy would've been bleeding day one.

oh no, a belt! shit... a belt was the least of my concerns growing up in a 1 parent household but guess what, my mother is awesome and i love telling the stories about how she used to kick my ass as a kid. a belt? shit... try a phone over the head, heals and keys thrown at you, and laughing while she spanked my brother and i with our toys but she got smart quick and made of cringe from time to time.

pussy ass kids these days and even bigger pussies like CryBaby are ruining society.

This explains why you are the masochistic twat that you prove yourself to be here every day. Shouldn't you be somewhere picking losing battles with the Mav krew?

[BacktoBasics]

yeah i don't think it was the worst thing Well at least they didn't force her to listen to rap music or hip hop. That would have really fucked her up.

[silverblk mystix]

#1) This piece of shit is a Judge..someone who is trusted with deciding people's fate in a court of law...hello?
This piece of shit cannot even control himself and lashes out violently at a child! And he presides in a court of law and sends people to jail for what? For losing their composure and committing a crime? Hello....anyone home?

#2) This beating has nothing to do with the girl....this is ALL about the parents who obviously never learned how to handle emotions and control their violence. Both shitbag parents are only reacting to THEIR OWN FUCKIN' ANGER!!!!! They both are angry...and this anger is INSIDE of them....get it? They feel anger inside themselves and what do they do????? They assault a child to ...get this.... to TEACH her about HOW TO ACT!!!!!!
This in itself would be hilarious ---if it wasn't so fuckin' tragic---and if there weren't a child involved who is getting abused....and wait....just wait for this girl to get ahold of some people in HER future....guess what she will exact on her future loved ones?????
YES.....VIOLENCE......BRILLIANT!!!!! A fuckin elected official...a JUDGE no less....
If there is anger inside you...Mom....Dad...get in touch with that anger first...then see if this anger says something ABOUT YOURSELF!!!!...
Then once you have sorted out these feelings of anger...and you have come to grips with how this anger has affected you and your parenting skills...then MAYBE...AFTER...you have sorted all this shit out...then it MIGHT be time to DISCUSS things with your child in a productive way....

#3) This "ISSUE" was in no way a matter of disobedience....this ISSUE was about the shitbag Dad worried about his "reputation" because (7 years ago) the girl was possibly downloading "illegal" material...you know...songs and shit like most other teens were doing...(I am going to take a wild stab and guess that this shitbag is a righteous Texas Republican)...so the shitbag Dad was worried about his position in regards to his own daughter breaking the law...

Let us break this down....if you feel some negative emotion INSIDE YOURSELF...and then you take this negative emotion that is in YOU...and you decide that this emotion is the fault of SOMEONE OUTSIDE YOU-----

then you are a fuckin' insane person....no other explanation fits....

You are carrying something inside of you....and you decide to PUNISH another for what YOU feel....get it???? YOU ARE A STUPID FUCKIN' CRAZY PSYCHO...

and you decide it is your job to attack another person because of what you are feeling....this is insanity....


These are parents who are probably highly respected in their respective..."circle" and it is their "JOB" to "RAISE" this child.....

Taken for granted in a lunatic asylum....

[silverblk mystix]

oh yeah...fuck anyone who comments on my use or lack of use of whatever your "grammar" pet peeve is....don't give a fuck...

[thispego]

First of all, we all know what a sensitive little pussy cry havoc is. This is nothing new.

The video wasn't all bad, she's a little old to be getting spankings. at 16 they need to have allowances, driving priviliges, phone time, cell phones, curfews, etc revoked. She should have been grounded, not spanked. But that's up to the parents if they dont think their 16 year old is too old for spankings. what was over the top was him using some conjugation of fuck every other word. You want her to be respectful and obedient of you but you're gonna yell fuckin this and fuckin that at her while telling her you're gonna wear her ass out? That's over the top and not really getting the message across appropriately. You should be demonstrating your power over your child, but not physically, at that age anyways. She obviously wasnt "beaten" or hurt by the incident, spankings sting for a second but she was just fine at the end of the video. you want the discipline to "sting" for a while? make it long term discipline by grounding for a month, taking away the cell phone, going out, etc. That's how you hurt a teenager, not by spanking them. I think the last time i got spanked was probably around 12 after i punched my sister and i remember laughing after it was all said and done. my sis definitely got the worst of it.

[silverblk mystix]

...and to top it off...the girl had Cerebral Palsy....

uh...JUDGE....are you ready to sentence this man for ________ ?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/02/disabled-teens-beating-judge-william-adams_n_1071822.html

[Sisk]

This happened 7 years ago? Did the daughter hang onto the tape for that long and then release it?

[silverblk mystix]

This happened 7 years ago? Did the daughter hang onto the tape for that long and then release it?

Yes.

She stated that after all this time...the abuse was getting worse....and the shitbag MOM has left the marriage and is alleging that she was "forced" to go along with the beatings....

didn't look like the piece of shit Judge was twisting the piece of shit Mom's arm too much in the video....

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Let's review the arguments made in this thread:

My parents did worse to me: It's this type of thinking the breeds abuse in the first place. Rather than taking the high road and teaching your kids better, you'd be content just to do the same to them because :cry I had to deal with it :cry, and so will your children and your children's children, thanks to you. Bad parents raise kids who grow up to be bad parents.

She didn't go the ICU, so obviously it's not abuse: So I guess we have to wait for bones to get broken before it's considered over the line? What about this video (or the various other news reports of Adams beating his wife and kid) leads you to believe that this wasn't a regular occurrence? What makes you think it was never worse than what we saw on this one particular occasion? If something possessed this girl to make and leak a video of her own father, I'd have to assume this sort of thing was happening with pretty good regularity. All we have to judge from the video are the sounds of the strikes, but from the sounds of it, those were hard enough to leave a mark. Start leaving bruises or welts on your kid, and the CPS will start to intervene, and rightfully so.

Parents used to beat their kids all the time: Yeah, we also used to be cavemen who ate rocks in our food. We used to think the world was flat, and boil criminals and heretics in hot water and oil. We used to think it was okay to send people who were different than us to concentration camps or shove them to the back of the bus. The fact that something USED to happen does not make it any less barbaric for today's society, unless you don't believe in the progression of the human race.

She got what she deserved because she didn't bend over: So making the pain more severe is the obvious response to that, right? What if whipping her legs and stomach didn't work? I guess start taking shots to the face. If that doesn't work, lose the belt and start using a fist. If that doesn't work, throw her down the stairs. That'll teach her a lesson.

Quite frankly, if you're trying to spank a child who is old enough to willfully refuse it, it's time to find a new form of punishment, not just raise the pain level and humiliation factor. And I'm not even going to get into the comments that he made while doing it, or the pleasure that he seemed to take in "laying down the law". Anyone who thinks it's normal to spank a 16-year-old, mentally disabled girl has issues.

All kids are little shits because they aren't beat: No, kids are out of control because parents either don't discipline them at all, or try to medicate what would otherwise be considered regular childhood tendencies.

It's not that hard to discipline a kid without laying a finger on them. And quite frankly, that was more effective for me when I was growing up. By the time I was like 6, I realized that my parents weren't going to kill me with a spanking and it was only going to hurt for a short period of time, so it lost its effectiveness, and my parents realized that. Raising the pain level is not the proper response. Now threatening me with a month of no TV, or no friends, or no car? That set my ass straight real quick.

In my opinion, if you're too short-sighted or moronic to find a way to handle your kids without striking them, then you probably shouldn't have had kids in the first place. If you feel differently , feel free to make your case, but don't expect me to respect your opinion.



This explains why you are the masochistic twat that you prove yourself to be here every day. Shouldn't you be somewhere picking losing battles with the Mav krew?

A hole in the central cornerstone of your argument is you think progress and change are the same and both necessarily better. Which is false. Sometimes stuff that happened in the past or that elders had to deal with is in fact better than what is happening now and people now have to deal with. Change is not always good, and not all change is progress.

[Gutter92]

The daughter was disabled, too...

[pawe]

Let's review the arguments made in this thread:

My parents did worse to me: It's this type of thinking the breeds abuse in the first place. Rather than taking the high road and teaching your kids better, you'd be content just to do the same to them because :cry I had to deal with it :cry, and so will your children and your children's children, thanks to you. Bad parents raise kids who grow up to be bad parents.

She didn't go the ICU, so obviously it's not abuse: So I guess we have to wait for bones to get broken before it's considered over the line? What about this video (or the various other news reports of Adams beating his wife and kid) leads you to believe that this wasn't a regular occurrence? What makes you think it was never worse than what we saw on this one particular occasion? If something possessed this girl to make and leak a video of her own father, I'd have to assume this sort of thing was happening with pretty good regularity. All we have to judge from the video are the sounds of the strikes, but from the sounds of it, those were hard enough to leave a mark. Start leaving bruises or welts on your kid, and the CPS will start to intervene, and rightfully so.

Parents used to beat their kids all the time: Yeah, we also used to be cavemen who ate rocks in our food. We used to think the world was flat, and boil criminals and heretics in hot water and oil. We used to think it was okay to send people who were different than us to concentration camps or shove them to the back of the bus. The fact that something USED to happen does not make it any less barbaric for today's society, unless you don't believe in the progression of the human race.

She got what she deserved because she didn't bend over: So making the pain more severe is the obvious response to that, right? What if whipping her legs and stomach didn't work? I guess start taking shots to the face. If that doesn't work, lose the belt and start using a fist. If that doesn't work, throw her down the stairs. That'll teach her a lesson.

Quite frankly, if you're trying to spank a child who is old enough to willfully refuse it, it's time to find a new form of punishment, not just raise the pain level and humiliation factor. And I'm not even going to get into the comments that he made while doing it, or the pleasure that he seemed to take in "laying down the law". Anyone who thinks it's normal to spank a 16-year-old, mentally disabled girl has issues.

All kids are little shits because they aren't beat: No, kids are out of control because parents either don't discipline them at all, or try to medicate what would otherwise be considered regular childhood tendencies.

It's not that hard to discipline a kid without laying a finger on them. And quite frankly, that was more effective for me when I was growing up. By the time I was like 6, I realized that my parents weren't going to kill me with a spanking and it was only going to hurt for a short period of time, so it lost its effectiveness, and my parents realized that. Raising the pain level is not the proper response. Now threatening me with a month of no TV, or no friends, or no car? That set my ass straight real quick.

In my opinion, if you're too short-sighted or moronic to find a way to handle your kids without striking them, then you probably shouldn't have had kids in the first place. If you feel differently , feel free to make your case, but don't expect me to respect your opinion.



You grew up well and responsible without your parents spanking you.
I grew up well and responsible with my parents sometimes spanking me.
Both ways of discipline worked out well for both of us and also to other people here too so why would you say the form of punishment my parents did was moronic when it made me a responsible person today? I didnt die, I didnt suffer broken bones, its because the spanking was appropriate and not overkill.

I think you are short-sighted if you think your kind of discipline is the only one that work and other parent's ways are inferior to yours.
Dont respect my opinion if you dont want to, nobody begs for approval here anyway.

About the video, if that is what the parents think is appropriate for her then I will not challenge them. Are we 100% sure that they did not try setting limits first or other forms of punishment or even being good examples and providing morals for her.
You know, I will also cry and beg and make sure it will look way worse than what it is if I know there is a camera capturing every minute of the "beating".

[Cant_Be_Faded]

1) Kids almost always overexaggerate their crying when getting spanked in public or when others are watching

2) All she had to do was turn over but she refused

3) She planned this whole thing and you all assume that had no effect on (1) or (2)

Dumbass kid should not have disobeyed her mom and dad.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I think the last time i got spanked was probably around 12 after i punched my sister and i remember laughing after it was all said and done. my sis definitely got the worst of it.

crofl, crassic

[Trill Clinton]

If your idea of disciplining a 16 year old is spanking, then you failed as a parent.

[silverblk mystix]

1) Kids almost always overexaggerate their crying when getting spanked in public or when others are watching

2) All she had to do was turn over but she refused

3) She planned this whole thing and you all assume that had no effect on (1) or (2)

Dumbass kid should not have disobeyed her mom and dad.

I feel sorry for your kids...

[cantthinkofanything]

1) Kids almost always overexaggerate their crying when getting spanked in public or when others are watching

2) All she had to do was turn over but she refused

3) She planned this whole thing and you all assume that had no effect on (1) or (2)

Dumbass kid should not have disobeyed her mom and dad.

It doesn't matter about 1,2, or 3. Her crying and screaming seemed to make the piece of shit dad even more brutal. Whether it was overexaggerated on her part or not, he showed his true character.

I've got an 11 year old daughter and I can't think of any situation where I'd beat her into submission and disregard her tortured pleas to stop. And yes, I have spanked her. About three times. The last one being at probably age 4 or so.

If they were worried about her downloading games, they shouldn't have given her access to the computer. It's just that simple. My guess is that these are some crazy zealot parents that think the internet, moveis, tv, and the radio are all evil.

[Dex]

I didnt die, I didnt suffer broken bones, its because the spanking was appropriate and not overkill.


That's the point I'm trying to make. I'm not saying that ALL spanking is ALWAYS wrong. But taking a belt to your child's butt a few times, and maliciously beating them with it, are two separate things. It's not always just considered "spanking" because you use a belt.

My parents DID spank me when I was young; they just didn't beat me. To me, it's not that hard to know the difference, and I was able to discern that even when I was a kid.

And it's not the crying and begging in the video which is disturbing, which could be construed as forced at times. It's the father's behavior, the severity of the strikes against her, the way he keeps going back to it even when he's obviously made his point, the way he shoves her around and holds her down to the bed, and the comments and threats that he makes to her. In my opinion, it's all way overboard, particularly considering it's a 16-year old girl, especially one that's got a mental handicap.

I'm not begrudging the way your parents raised you. It's not to say it can't raise somebody to be responsible, but it also makes it more likely that they will carry that behavior forward. And I also don't take lightly at all to anybody who imposes their physical will on those weaker than them, be it children, women, or animals. If your child is old enough to where they aren't sufficiently scared of a few slaps on the bottom, it's time to find a new way to set the rules.

[CosmicCowboy]

Pffft. My old man used the buckle.

[cheguevara]

wake up pussies and tree huggers. the child's job when being beaten is to scream like he/she been attacked by a pack of werewolves. It's 90% acting. That's what I used to do to reduce my punishment.

[CosmicCowboy]

wake up pussies and tree huggers. the child's job when being beaten is to scream like he/she been attacked by a pack of werewolves. It's 90% acting. That's what I used to do to reduce my punishment.

:lmao

That shit wouldn't work with my dad.

If you screamed he would tell you to shut up and keep beating you till you did. Even a whimper would get more whacks with the belt buckle.

[CosmicCowboy]

I know one thing...before this is over that kid is gonna wish she hadn't posted it on the internet.

[Gutter92]

wake up pussies and tree huggers. the child's job when being beaten is to scream like he/she been attacked by a pack of werewolves. It's 90% acting. That's what I used to do to reduce my punishment.


:lmao:lmao

"wake up pussies, i used to scream like a little bitch when i got my ass kicked"


:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[pawe]

I know one thing...before this is over that kid is gonna wish she hadn't posted it on the internet.

Why? Offers from porn companies for weird ass fetishes are on an all time high.

[cantthinkofanything]

I know one thing...before this is over that kid is gonna wish she hadn't posted it on the internet.

not as much as the piece of shit dad

[CosmicCowboy]

BTW, all those hundreds of beatings did was teach me to ignore pain. Didn't do a fucking thing to alter my behavior.

And I never laid a finger on my kids.

[cantthinkofanything]

BTW, all those hundreds of beatings did was teach me to ignore pain. Didn't do a fucking thing to alter my behavior.

And I never laid a finger on my kids.

how many posts is it going to take you to get your story out?

[TimDunkem]

:lmao:lmao

"wake up pussies, i used to scream like a little bitch when i got my ass kicked"


:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
:lmao

[CosmicCowboy]

how many posts is it going to take you to get your story out?

:lmao

says the guy that has started hundreds of stupid threads...

[DMC]

Bullshit.

People have been bitching about that since the time of Plato and before.

The best studies and scientific evidence we have says that you don't really truly need to do any spanking, all you need to do is set limits, and clear rules that are consistantly and fairly enforced.

It isn't rocket science.

How do you enforce rules on children?

[DMC]

If your idea of disciplining a 16 year old is spanking, then you failed as a parent.
How would you do it?

[DMC]

I feel sorry for your kids...
Hopefully they don't become hypersensitive little enlightened prison guards who drool over Volkswagens online.

[SA210]

1) Kids almost always overexaggerate their crying when getting spanked in public or when others are watching

2) All she had to do was turn over but she refused

3) She planned this whole thing and you all assume that had no effect on (1) or (2)

Dumbass kid should not have disobeyed her mom and dad.

:tu

[SA210]

wake up pussies and tree huggers. the child's job when being beaten is to scream like he/she been attacked by a pack of werewolves. It's 90% acting. That's what I used to do to reduce my punishment.

Especially because she recorded it. It wasnt even real crying. It was mostly acting.

[silverblk mystix]

Especially because she recorded it. It wasnt even real crying. It was mostly acting.

ummm...no...

she has cerebral palsy...and probably didn't understand or comprehend how the two people that were supposed to love her and care for her well-being...were two enraged animals attacking her...

[CubanSucks]

for everyone saying "they just needed to set up boundaries and limits" wasn't that what was originally done? The whole reason they were mad was because they found out she was using the internet. Meaning they set up the fucking boundaries and she crossed it! That's why they moved to DEFCON 1 in the vid



ummm...no...

she has cerebral palsy...and probably didn't understand or comprehend how the two people that were supposed to love her and care for her well-being...were two enraged animals attacking her...

yes, of course! The confused little "retard" was so confused she had the camera set up to record the whole thing.

[silverblk mystix]

for everyone saying "they just needed to set up boundaries and limits" wasn't that what was originally done? The whole reason they were mad was because they found out she was using the internet. Meaning they set up the fucking boundaries and she crossed it! That's why they moved to DEFCON 1 in the vid




yes, of course! The confused little "retard" was so confused she had the camera set up to record the whole thing.

wrong again Fucko....

she recorded it because this had happened before...and the beatings were getting WORSE....

NOW the Douche Mom says she is leaving the marriage because she was FORCED to take part in the beatings....ummm I never saw douche Mom's arm getting twisted too hard...she should have been defending her child....not grabbing her own weapon to inflict more pain....

[SA210]

ummm...no...

she has cerebral palsy...and probably didn't understand or comprehend how the two people that were supposed to love her and care for her well-being...were two enraged animals attacking her...

Right, but yet she knew and understood perfectly well how to setup the hidden cam. Whatever

[cantthinkofanything]

Right, but yet she knew and understood perfectly well how to setup the hidden cam. Whatever

who gives a shit if she set up the camera? it doesn't take away from what the fuckhead parents did. she wouldn't have set up the camera in the first place if they weren't beating the shit out of her.

as to setting up boundries, they should have just taken the computer away.

[CubanSucks]

wrong again Fucko....

she recorded it because this had happened before...and the beatings were getting WORSE....

NOW the Douche Mom says she is leaving the marriage because she was FORCED to take part in the beatings....ummm I never saw douche Mom's arm getting twisted too hard...she should have been defending her child....not grabbing her own weapon to inflict more pain....

apparently the dad did turn out to be a complete asshole on multiple occasions. We're not discussing if this guy was a good father overall. My point was that she's not the confused little down syndrome kid you make her out to be.

[silverblk mystix]

apparently the dad did turn out to be a complete asshole on multiple occasions. We're not discussing if this guy was a good father overall. My point was that she's not the confused little down syndrome kid you make her out to be.

I didn't....I just googled the case...and this is what she was described as...

[silverblk mystix]

Those stupid ass free games can screw your computer up. I'd be pretty pissed too. I have spent fucking hours and hours trying to fix my parents computer because of the crap they download that's FREE! I understand the Rage!

Teenagers are a big pain in the ass! And sometimes Crazy is what they understand.

unless you had an APPLE computer....:lmao

then...we're back to another thread....

[thispego]

ummm...no...

she has cerebral palsy...and probably didn't understand or comprehend how the two people that were supposed to love her and care for her well-being...were two enraged animals attacking her...

:lmao

[jag]

she's a little old to be getting spankings. at 16 they need to have allowances, driving priviliges, phone time, cell phones, curfews, etc revoked. She should have been grounded, not spanked.



If your idea of disciplining a 16 year old is spanking, then you failed as a parent.


Exactly. You gotta lay a serious amount of wood on a 16 year old if you're going to punish them with spankings. You'd have to completely obliterate that ass. Even after a borderline illegal amount of violence, you probably still wouldn't have got the message across.

With boys it's easier because if they think they're grown and start acting bold you can just lay a beating on them...forgot spankings. Can't do that with a girl.

[jag]

ummm...no...

she has cerebral palsy...and probably didn't understand or comprehend how the two people that were supposed to love her and care for her well-being...were two enraged animals attacking her...

You know what palsy is right? It's not a form of mental retardation, you fucking retard.

[cantthinkofanything]

if the shit with your kid is so bad that you're still spanking her at 16, then why would they think she isn't going fuck up a computer. it probably put on some virus that wasn't letting him access his kiddie porn

[silverblk mystix]

You know what palsy is right? It's not a form of mental retardation, you fucking retard.

Show me where I said she was a retard?

A lot of idiots in here have comprehension issues and lack understanding...

are you calling them retards?

Wait....don't answer that...:lmao

[jag]

Show me where I said she was a retard?

A lot of idiots in here have comprehension issues and lack understanding...

are you calling them retards?

Wait....don't answer that...:lmao




she has cerebral palsy...and probably didn't understand or comprehend

I'm sorry I misconstrued your fucked up version of a sentence as one complete thought.

Please tell me you're under the age of eleven. While still unacceptable, it would at least partially explain why you type the way a full blown retard thinks.

[silverblk mystix]

I'm sorry I misconstrued your fucked up version of a sentence as one complete thought.

Please tell me you're under the age of eleven. While still unacceptable, it would at least partially explain why you type the way a full blown retard thinks.

See post #92.

[jag]

Yeah, that makes it ok.

[silverblk mystix]

Yeah, that makes it ok.

Goddamn right. You're startin' to see the light.

[DMC]

The dude didn't even need to hit the girl. He could have slapped spit out of the mom and then looked at the girl and said "see what you did to your mom?"

[silverblk mystix]

The dude didn't even need to hit the girl. He could have slapped spit out of the mom and then looked at the girl and said "see what you did to your mom?"

might as well...at least it would fit in with how this family thinks...well, how the parents think at least...

[The Reckoning]

good thing im never having bebes

[cantthinkofanything]

shit. they just played a soundbyte from this to tease fox news in dfw .
the dad is a total shithead but what's the point. there's a lot more serious shit than this going on. they'll spend 20 seconds on Greece and 5 minutes on this. then play some listener feedback.

[cantthinkofanything]

shit. they just played a soundbyte from this to tease fox news in dfw .
the dad is a total shithead but what's the point. there's a lot more serious shit than this going on. they'll spend 20 seconds on Greece and 5 minutes on this. then play some listener feedback.

yep. they are having a sit down interview with a psychotherapist.

[cantthinkofanything]

paraphrase:

only people say that it's "ok" are on there way to being abusers themselves.

[cantthinkofanything]

thanks foxnews for shit that everyone's already seen.

[cantthinkofanything]

shitty house for a judge though

[cantthinkofanything]

daughter said she wishes she didn't post because she doesn't want him punished.
if she was smart, she would have blackmailed his abusive ass

[Bill_Brasky]

I think we can all agree that the dad is a piece of shit....right?

[koriwhat]

This explains why you are the masochistic twat that you prove yourself to be here every day.

you've got one thing correct, i don't mind taking a punch to the face. here everyday? hahaha



The daughter was disabled, too...

so disabled she could download video games on a fuckin' computer.


ummm...no...

she has cerebral palsy...and probably didn't understand or comprehend how the two people that were supposed to love her and care for her well-being...were two enraged animals attacking her...

she probably couldn't understand copyright infringement laws either, huh? i mean, those laws are in place to care for her well-being.

ps: where's that big cunt CryBaby at?

[koriwhat]

welcome home CryBaby!

[Blake]

oh no, a belt! shit... a belt was the least of my concerns growing up in a 1 parent household but guess what, my mother is awesome and i love telling the stories about how she used to kick my ass as a kid. a belt? shit... try a phone over the head, heals and keys thrown at you, and laughing while she spanked my brother and i with our toys but she got smart quick and made of cringe from time to time.

pussy ass kids these days and even bigger pussies like CryBaby are ruining society.

holy shit

[ElNono]

Adams is a family law judge, who presides over child abuse cases (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-judge-william-adams-investigation-video-aparently-shows-beating-disabled-daughter-article-1.971307)

[ElNono]

"It's not as bad as it looks on tape." (http://www.kztv10.com/news/judge-william-adams-responds-to-videotaped-beating/)

[ElNono]

:lol

[SA210]

who gives a shit if she set up the camera? it doesn't take away from what the fuckhead parents did. she wouldn't have set up the camera in the first place if they weren't beating the shit out of her.

as to setting up boundries, they should have just taken the computer away.

It wasn't all that bad to begin with. Mostly an acting job on her part.

[cantthinkofanything]

It wasn't all that bad to begin with. Mostly an acting job on her part.

who's to say how much acting there was. But the fact that the piece of shit escalated the beating as she screamed more says enough.

[SA210]

who's to say how much acting there was. But the fact that the piece of shit escalated the beating as she screamed more says enough.

There's nothing to see here. If anything, yea I wouldn't wanna have to be spanking my daughter at that age, but the video isnt that bad. I can tell you bad, and that wasn't. Just people being too damn sensitive who dont understand what abuse really is overreacting to to an acting job. It escalated because she didn't obey. Just bend over and stfu. Parents run the household, not the kids.

[JoeChalupa]

She was on the Today show this morning and stated that she setup the camera because it was a pattern that she felt was escalating. The mom also said she was brainwashed by her husband to go along with it.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

All you fuckers claiming this is nothing serious and all too normal, tell your kids I feel sorry for them.

[JoeChalupa]

IMO, it was excessive.

[m>s]

Same place I was supposed to go at 16. If she's too grown up to mind her parents, she's ready to leave. You cannot have it both ways.

She's not your kid under your rules, so you cannot say whether or not the punishment fit the crime. You speak of morals but then where do your morals originate?


So you don't have kids?
its not uncommon in chinks families that the kids get beaten & tortured imho

[silverblk mystix]

There's nothing to see here. If anything, yea I wouldn't wanna have to be spanking my daughter at that age, but the video isnt that bad. I can tell you bad, and that wasn't. Just people being too damn sensitive who dont understand what abuse really is overreacting to to an acting job. It escalated because she didn't obey. Just bend over and stfu. Parents run the household, not the kids.

Translated:

I,too, have skeletons in my closet...so I would rather justify an attack on a child as nothing more than normal parenting. Hope...I am not being videotaped.

[silverblk mystix]

This judge presided in 349 "family law" cases last year....50 of them involved a hearing where he had to determine if the parents...were...get this...."fit"...:lmao

Taken for granted in an insane asylum....

[redzero]

http://images.encyclopediadramatica.ch/f/f8/Thatsapaddlin.gif

That's a paddlin'.

[RickPerry]

Texas discipline rules.

[Gutter92]

so disabled she could download video games on a fuckin' computer.





Are you implying disabled people can't download video games? Disabled people can still do alot...get calf tats, fuck other peoples skin up with shitty tats, etc.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

The Fox News crowd, for example, will probably be more offended by the F-bombs than the beating.
:lmao

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

lol the mom saying she was :crybrainwashed by her husband:cry

She seemed to be taking just as much fun in it as he was. What a bullshitting cunt.

[Fabbs]

"In my mind, I haven't done anything wrong other than discipline my child after she was caught stealing," Adams said. "And I did lose my temper, but I've since apologized."

When told of her father's comments, Hillary Adams said, "it's a shining perfect example of his personality and he believes he can do no wrong. ... He will cover up rather than admit to what he did and try to come clean."

[Fabbs]

"Court records show that the couple had another daughter who was 6 at the time."

:lol Does Judge Bitch have custody of her?
BTW where is the wife in all this currently? No articles or pictures.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Wife divorced the guy awhile back and has custody

[SA210]

Translated:

I,too, have skeletons in my closet...so I would rather justify an attack on a child as nothing more than normal parenting. Hope...I am not being videotaped.

Translated:

"I have no experience with abuse or spankings and also don't know what I'm talking about and have no clue of what an acting job is"

------------------------

Excessive a tad bit or not, not a big deal at all. It is NOT abuse. It's only what a new feminized culture would want to consider abuse. That other story about that mom punching her three year old in the stomach? Now that's frickin abuse. A father whoopin his kid with a belt as punishment and then a bit more for not bending over after being told a billion times is NOT.

[silverblk mystix]

Translated:

"I have no experience with abuse or spankings and also don't know what I'm talking about and have no clue of what an acting job is"

------------------------

Excessive a tad bit or not, not a big deal at all. It is NOT abuse. It's only what a new feminized culture would want to consider abuse. That other story about that mom punching her three year old in the stomach? Now that's frickin abuse. A father whoopin his kid with a belt as punishment and then a bit more for not bending over after being told a billion times is NOT.



Wrong again, fucko....

Dad took a belt a few times to me if I had done something stupid....

...but as I evolved I figured out that Dad's anger...was HIS to deal with...and HIS issues were HIS to deal with...never hated him for it or blamed him for my life...

just understood the psychology of it and understood that Dad did the best he could with the knowledge he had and moved on...

With my son...I had already learned how I was programmed and did not have to punish anyone for my issues...

[SA210]

Wrong again, fucko....

Dad took a belt a few times to me if I had done something stupid....

...but as I evolved I figured out that Dad's anger...was HIS to deal with...and HIS issues were HIS to deal with...never hated him for it or blamed him for my life...

just understood the psychology of it and understood that Dad did the best he could with the knowledge he had and moved on...

With my son...I had already learned how I was programmed and did not have to punish anyone for my issues...

Did daddy's aggression stay with you enough for you to go around having to call everyone "fucko" who disagrees with you. Looks like you have those anger issues. I think you are the one who is wrong. As I said before, that kid was overacting, a planned setup cam and acted for that cam. I've seen many kids cry, and I knew what it was like to cry as a kid. THAT kid was acting, period.

[silverblk mystix]

Did daddy's aggression stay with you enough for you to go around having to call everyone "fucko" who disagrees with you. Looks like you have those anger issues. I think you are the one who is wrong. As I said before, that kid was overacting, a planned setup cam and acted for that cam. I've seen many kids cry, and I knew what it was like to cry as a kid. THAT kid was acting, period.

if you feel that way about the kid...go right ahead...it is a non-issue

none of this absolves the father for his behavior...after all this IS about the fucked up parenting of the shitbag father who is also a JUDGE who happens to "punish and sentence" others for being bad parents....

the girls' behavior or acting has nothing to do with how the parents acted...

[jag]

Wrong again, fucko....


How could someone not win a debate with an opening like this?

[SA210]

if you feel that way about the kid...go right ahead...it is a non-issue

none of this absolves the father for his behavior...after all this IS about the fucked up parenting of the shitbag father who is also a JUDGE who happens to "punish and sentence" others for being bad parents....

the girls' behavior or acting has nothing to do with how the parents acted...

And my point is while it may seem a bit overboard, I don't believe he acted crazy enough to be on tv for it, his job in jeopardy or to have anyone get into his business of how he runs his family. I don't see it as real abuse. The acting job of the kid makes it appear worse than it is. There are other REAL abuse stories that deserve this kind of attention, not This story. And it is just a story.

[CosmicCowboy]

Wrong again, fucko....

Dad took a belt a few times to me if I had done something stupid....

...but as I evolved I figured out that Dad's anger...was HIS to deal with...and HIS issues were HIS to deal with...never hated him for it or blamed him for my life...

just understood the psychology of it and understood that Dad did the best he could with the knowledge he had and moved on...

With my son...I had already learned how I was programmed and did not have to punish anyone for my issues...

Agreed. If you can identify the problem behavior you can change it. No reason for abuse to get passed down from generation to generation.

[CubanSucks]

How could someone not win a debate with an opening like this?

and twice I might add

[DarkReign]

And my point is while it may seem a bit overboard, I don't believe he acted crazy enough to be on tv for it, his job in jeopardy or to have anyone get into his business of how he runs his family. I don't see it as real abuse. The acting job of the kid makes it appear worse than it is. There are other REAL abuse stories that deserve this kind of attention, not This story. And it is just a story.

How people raise their kids, I do not care.

All I can say is, if the father's version of discipline displayed in that video were to leave a mark, he'd put in prison here in Michigan.

[BlackSwordsMan]

If you stabbed her in the cunt would he go to prison? I would see no mark

[CubanSucks]

If you stabbed her in the cunt would he go to prison? I would see no mark

she'd be begging for more

[703 Spurz]

Pussification of America. "Oh I've been hit by a belt in the butt because I keep on disobeying them over and over...I'll go complain since this is child abuse."

...And then people are going to complain about the youth today being so disrespectful and not having any values.

So to have your kid not not turn out to be an asshole when they grow up, beat them into being respectful individuals who contribute to society?

That's as idiotic as saying that not beating your kids made them disrespectful and w/o values

[DMC]

So to have your kid not not turn out to be an asshole when they grow up, beat them into being respectful individuals who contribute to society?

That's as idiotic as saying that not beating your kids made them disrespectful and w/o values
Spare the rod, spoil the child.

[Blake]

Pussification of America. "Oh I've been hit by a belt in the butt because I keep on disobeying them over and over...I'll go complain since this is child abuse."

...And then people are going to complain about the youth today being so disrespectful and not having any values.

great post. :tu

to add further, I believe that bosses should be able to take belts off and whip the disrespectful employees that keep screwing up over and over.

[DMC]

great post. :tu

to add further, I believe that bosses should be able to take belts off and whip the disrespectful employees that keep screwing up over and over.

This.

He should have fired her then had security escort her out of the house.

Also, he could have just made her sleep on the couch.

[CubanSucks]

great post. :tu

to add further, I believe that bosses should be able to take belts off and whip the disrespectful employees that keep screwing up over and over.

yeah, cause that's the same exact thing!

[Blake]

This.

He should have fired her then had security escort her out of the house.

Also, he could have just made her sleep on the couch.

I did, in effect, fire her and the court ruled her out of the house.

Thanks for not asking and playing the fool. :tu

[Blake]

yeah, cause that's the same exact thing!

good point.

clearly it's better to take a belt to a child than to a grown adult.

[pawe]

Judge did not apologize for the video saying he wont be blackmailed.
New reports say the girl posted the video because he told her he was reducing financial support and is taking away the mercedes family car she's using if she's planning to just drop out of college and continue to just work at a video game store.

You can kiss that daddy's money and daddy's car goodbye for sure now. What a cunt.

[pawe]

In some civilized countries, they will even take the belt to their women.

http://gallery.sealhat.com/albums/userpics/10005/normal_vlcsnap-13164842.png

[pawe]

Like I said, he should have beat her ass more.

Agreed boss.
I remembered when im being whooped, rubbing the pain off was my first reaction..you dont see that in the video.
And after a good licking of the belt, I was still crying after they left but the hard headed cunt just brushed it off like it was nothing.

[mavs>spurs]

Like I said, he should have beat her ass more.

speakin of beatin ass lil bitch, quit hidin from me

[CubanSucks]

good point.

clearly it's better to take a belt to a child than to a grown adult.

now you're making sense

[silverblk mystix]

great post. :tu

to add further, I believe that bosses should be able to take belts off and whip the disrespectful employees that keep screwing up over and over.

:lmao

Kori should be able to visit trolls at their house and whip the shit outta them...

like Naruto getting whipped with a fuckin' samurai sword handle....

[DMC]

good point.

clearly it's better to take a belt to a child than to a grown adult.
Do you always argue like a total fucking gimp?

1. Make absurd comparison
2. When called on it, use false dichotomy and hyperbole
3. Use ":lmao I win"

[DMC]

Daddy can kiss his job goodbye after being caught beating his kid's ass with cerebal palsy.

A family law judge, no less :lmao

Best part of that video is how badly he is getting off while beating the shit out of her.

Wife probably had to give him a hummer to settle him down







This is Texas.

Beating the fuck out of your kid is a right of passage and the Republican way
He'll be the next governor.

[DMC]

I did, in effect, fire her and the court ruled her out of the house.

Thanks for not asking and playing the fool. :tu
You know the girl?

[SA210]

Like I said, he should have beat her ass more.

[mouse]

This whole debate can be resolved from just using basic Mathematics.

It's not really about discipline many of us support rules and punishment of some sort.

The problem is back in my day my dad hit me 1 time that's all it took the belt is actually something I do support This man hit his Daughter over 102 times?

SPYdeif17lo

I honesty feel this girl knew she fucked up after maybe after (stab in the dark) the 3rd hit possibly? how many times would you need to be hit with a belt to know you did something wrong?

do the math.

MIT

[bus driver]

This whole debate can be resolved from just using basic Mathematics.

It's not really about discipline many of us support rules and punishment of some sort.

The problem is back in my day my dad hit me 1 time that's all it took the belt is actually something I do support This man hit his Daughter over 102 times?

SPYdeif17lo

I honesty feel this girl knew she fucked up after maybe after (stab in the dark) the 3rd hit possibly? how many times would you need to be hit with a belt to know you did something wrong?

do the math.

MIT

just a guess....but anywhere between 1 and 102 times.