Why Kobe shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath with MJ (For luva and Kool)

[D-Wade #3]

We were all so busy gleefully burying the Miami Heat after they lost to the Dallas Mavericks in the NBA Finals that we missed out on acknowledging a crucial bit of basketball history: The 2010-2011 season will likely go down as the year Los Angeles Lakers guard Kobe Bryant saw his best argument for becoming "Better than Michael Jordan" slip away for good.

When we talk numbers, awards, memories, legacy and fame, the Jordan vs. Bryant debate is dead on arrival. Really, debating Jordan vs. anyone in these categories isn't worth the time. Jordan's statistics are absurdly better than Bryant's; his switch-hand lay-up, shoulder shrug and stepback jumper to beat the Utah Jazz all trump any Bryant highlight; he was a significantly bigger worldwide star and one of the single greatest forces in globalizing the game; the Jumpman logo only becomes more ubiquitous by the year. Bryant has scored fewer points, grabbed fewer rebounds and dished fewer assists per game both in the regular season and the playoffs. He's sold fewer sneakers and touched fewer hearts. He's won fewer MVPs, Finals MVPs and scoring titles. There's not much argument.

Honestly, Bryant doesn't really deserve to be mentioned in a debate with Jordan, except for one fact: he had the chance to accumulate more titles. Winning in bulk will always get star players put up on a pedestal.

Because Bryant skipped high school and didn't take two seasons off to play baseball, his argument for toppling Jordan has always relied on accumulation. He stands a very good chance of finishing higher than Jordan on the all-time points list, for example, an accomplishment he has reportedly been eying. But educated fans and the populous at large will both see through that accomplishment and conclude that more total points doesn't mean a better player. Not when Jordan averaged roughly five points more per game than Bryant over their careers and eight points more per game in the playoffs. Not when Jordan shot more than four percent better from the field for their careers. Not when Jordan's best scoring year (37.1 points per game in 1986-1987) was better than Bryant's best scoring year (35.4 points per game in 2005-2006). Not when Jordan won 10 scoring title's to Bryant's two. Not with Bryant getting essentially a five-year head start on accumulating thanks to Jordan's years in college and in the Chicago White Sox organization. When Bryant passes Jordan on the scoring list it will stand as a testament to his durability, consistency, determination, pure scoring instinct and will. But it won't make him better than Jordan.


http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22748484/31150061

[lefty]

Well, duh


But MJ shits on Wade too

[Stalin]

^ nice knee brah

[lefty]

Thanks man

[Giuseppe]

[[[thanks to Jordan's years in college and in the Chicago White Sox organization.]]]

I'll accept the college years, but, Stern ran him off for gambling. It cost Jordan his father's life. Then the cheatin' bastard snuck back at the end of the season for a quick ringage.

Uh, uh. No.

[pass1st]

Kobe is the closest we will be to MJ for a while. How far that might be, nobody is closer.

Anywho, MJ shits on Wade and Pippen shits on Lebron.

[lefty]

Kobe is the closest we will be to MJ for a while. How far that might be, nobody is closer.

Anywho, MJ shits on Wade and Pippen shits on Lebron.
good post

[DMC]

Kobe vs Pippen would be a better argument.

[Koolaid_Man]

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22748484/31150061

well well well...what do we have here....:lol riding MJ and Wade's nuts...fuck the Ace of Spades let Kool hit you with his Joker card...

“In my mind, I have what I feel is a next level. And I have a blueprint in front of me. I have the Michael Jordans of the world. I have the Kobe Bryants of the world. I have these guys that are showing what’s the next level. - Dwyane Wade [AP]



If Wade thinks he can catch Jordan, then he definitely is delusional, but something tells me that he has his sights set on Kobe’s legacy.


Which still makes him delusional.

Wade will need to win 4 more championships to even be considered next to Kobe. :lol


Excellent Read....


http://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articl...e_wont/6259780 (http://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/dwyane_wade_wants_to_reach_kobe_bryants_level_why_ he_wont/6259780)

[DMC]

It just shows you the disparity in league talent. It's Kobe, Lebron then it drops off significantly. Accolades aside, people fail to realize how rare it is to have a 6'8" athlete who can do the things Lebron can do. We see these guys move on the court and consider they are smaller, but they are giants. Getting one that's not clumsy and is proportionate is hard enough, but getting one who has the muscle mass and the hand-eye coordination to actually excel at sports is amazing.

But yeah, MJ shits on Kobe.

[Koolaid_Man]

It just shows you the disparity in league talent. It's Kobe, Lebron then it drops off significantly. Accolades aside, people fail to realize how rare it is to have a 6'8" athlete who can do the things Lebron can do. We see these guys move on the court and consider they are smaller, but they are giants. Getting one that's not clumsy and is proportionate is hard enough, but getting one who has the muscle mass and the hand-eye coordination to actually excel at sports is amazing.

But yeah, MJ shits on Kobe.

yeah like bricks in the post....:lol that shit in the low post he was shooting in the finals wasn't even hitting the rim...the ball hit one side of the backboard and then the other side...totally bypassing the rim...:lmao

[ElNono]

Kobe vs Pippen would be a better argument.

this, tbh :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

Kobe vs Pippen would be a better argument.

not according to MJ..MJ has always focused on the best players....now spin this...:downspin: and ohhh MJ had to break out the "I' wasn't feeling well card"

what a fraud:

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[DMC]

Way to kick your own ass. MJ with the MVP.

"Jordan got the best of that"

[DMC]

yeah like bricks in the post....:lol that shit in the low post he was shooting in the finals wasn't even hitting the rim...the ball hit one side of the backboard and then the other side...totally bypassing the rim...:lmao

It's not their results, but their ability that I am referring to.

But then who the fuck are you kidding? You will be lobbying to get James to LA in a couple of years.

[dunkman]

IMO, MJ was more motivated, had better post game, was less predictable while driving, played better defense and was stronger. Kobe's little more athletic and shots little better. What clearly separate the two players is that MJ couldn't be stopped due to more complete offensive game, while Kobe gets stopped by elite defensive players. Hence, MJ was dominant in regular season, playoffs and finals. Kobe often sucks the whole series, and it's not just a bad game or two.

[Koolaid_Man]

IMO, MJ was more motivated, had better post game, was less predictable while driving, played better defense and was stronger. Kobe's little more athletic and shots little better. What clearly separate the two players is that MJ couldn't be stopped due to more complete offensive game, while Kobe gets stopped by elite defensive players. Hence, MJ was dominant in regular season, playoffs and finals. Kobe often sucks the whole series, and it's not just a bad game or two.


how quicky we forget...keep it trill now...for those of you too young to remember....thank me later...Kobe made his name off the Spurs...sit down and enjoy:

just one of many examples...

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[dunkman]

The Spurs were shorthanded at SG in that series. DA got injured by Juwan Howard in the series against the Mavs. The Spurs were playing with Antonio Daniels at SG, he's was a fine sixth man, but he was too undersized for Kobe. Just remember that Kobe never performed consistently against any elite wing defender. He is a great player, but he was lucky to play with Shaq and the Lakers, hence his 5 championships, but he's not really good as MJ was in his prime.

For the same reason Parker had a stellar finals in 2007. He's a legit all-star player, of course, but the Cavs were shorthanded at PG.

[Giuseppe]

^Only pussies & assholes use the injury excuse.

[DPG21920]

That doesn't stop you from using the aunt excuse ^

You are a p*ssy and a**hole right along with them, bub & I ain't letting you forget it.

[Koolaid_Man]

^Only pussies & assholes use the injury excuse.


what about armpits and the space between her tits :lol

[Giuseppe]

That doesn't stop you from using the aunt excuse ^

You are a p*ssy and a**hole right along with them, bub & I ain't letting you forget it.

Hey, I wish she were my aunt.

You're a lucky guy.

[DPG21920]

Sure, anyone would. But the fact remains you are every bit the p*ssy and a**hole for using it as an excuse around here.

[lefty]

Jordan shits on Kobe, fucked kobe's wife and ate Kobe's children

[Leetonidas]

Wade will need to win 4 more championships to even be considered next to Kobe. :lol



Considering Wade's one successful trip to the ship in 2006 was a million times more impressive than anything Kobe has done in the Finals, I doubt that

[Giuseppe]

Boiled down though:::

Kobe: 5

the shit bag: 4

Wade: 1

[DPG21920]

Plus: You're an a-hole and a p*ssy

[Bobby Boucher]

Let's boil it down a step further, to eliminate inconsistencies.

Rings as the man:

Jordan 6
Duncan 3
Kobe 1
Wade 1*

[lefty]

Let's boil it down a step further, to eliminate inconsistencies.

Rings as the man:

Jordan 6
Duncan 3
Kobe 1
Wade 1*

When did Kobe won as the man?

3 for Shaq
2 for Pau - and Pau fucked up in 2011, and the Lakers lose; coincidence?

So Kobe as the man has 0, Pau and Dirk >>> Kobe


Kobeh shitted on by soft Euros :lol

[Jelloisjigglin]

When did Kobe won as the man?

3 for Shaq
2 for Pau - and Pau fucked up in 2011, and the Lakers lose; coincidence?

So Kobe as the man has 0, Pau and Dirk >>> Kobe


Kobeh shitted on by soft Euros :lol

http://dimemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/hamed-haddadi.jpg

[lefty]

http://dimemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/hamed-haddadi.jpg

Is he a Euro ?

[Giuseppe]

Plus: You're an a-hole and a p*ssy

You're just talkin' out your hat because Kori is your aunt.

[Giuseppe]

Let's boil it down a step further, to eliminate inconsistencies.

Rings as the man:

Jordan 6
Duncan 3
Kobe 1
Wade 1*

No.

Jordan: 6

Kobe: 5

the shit bag: 4

Wade: 1

[Jelloisjigglin]

Is he a Euro ?

I really don't know much about him to be honest :lol I just remember him and Baby Gasol taking Timmy D's lunch money in last years playoffs.

[lefty]

I really don't know much about him to be honest :lol I just remember him and Baby Gasol taking Timmy D's lunch money in last years playoffs.

:pctoss

[Stalin]

No.

Jordan: 6

Kobe: 5

the shit bag: 4

Wade: 1

how come you use team accomplishments, when comparing players head to head? oh right... jordan, shitbag and wade all shit on kobe when it actually matter... in the playoffs :lol

[DPG21920]

You're just talkin' out your hat because Kori is your aunt.

Still, you're a p*ssy and a-hole for using it as an excuse.

[Stalin]

^ Culburn's Regulator putting in work, tbh

[Bobby Boucher]

No.

Jordan: 6

Kobe: 5

the shit bag: 4

Wade: 1

To compare individual players you have to divide by a common denominator- IE, rings as the man.

[Giuseppe]

how come you use team accomplishments, when comparing players head to head? oh right... jordan, shitbag and wade all shit on kobe when it actually matter... in the playoffs :lol

Because that's what "we" did when it was:

Kobe & Daddy: 0

And "we" did that when it was:

Duncan: 4

Kobe: 3

And "we" did it when it was:

Daddy: 4

Kobe: 3:

Ipso facto we're doing it now:

Kobe: 5

the shit bag: 4

[Giuseppe]

^ Culburn's Regulator putting in work, tbh

Agreed. Nephew Deepy has been a helluva regulator.

[Killakobe81]

The Spurs were shorthanded at SG in that series. DA got injured by Juwan Howard in the series against the Mavs. The Spurs were playing with Antonio Daniels at SG, he's was a fine sixth man, but he was too undersized for Kobe. Just remember that Kobe never performed consistently against any elite wing defender. He is a great player, but he was lucky to play with Shaq and the Lakers, hence his 5 championships, but he's not really good as MJ was in his prime.

For the same reason Parker had a stellar finals in 2007. He's a legit all-star player, of course, but the Cavs were shorthanded at PG.

I do remember Bowen getting his ass took, but I guess Bowen is not an elite wing defender? :nope

[Stalin]

Because that's what "we" did when it was:

Kobe & Daddy: 0

And "we" did that when it was:

Duncan: 4

Kobe: 3

And "we" did it when it was:

Daddy: 4

Kobe: 3:

Ipso facto we're doing it now:

Kobe: 5

the shit bag: 4

Duncan: 4

Kobe: 3

its ok because duncan backs up his ring count with actual quality performances in the playoffs as the man, unlike kobe who coattails bigmen

Daddy: 4

Kobe: 3:
again, no argument, shaq > kobe who coattailed him

Kobe: 5

the shit bag: 4

kobe doesn't back it up though, its like saying, horry 7 > jordan 6, or fisher 5 > duncan 4

your shtick has serious flaws, tbh

[pass1st]

How's FDR doing, Stalin?

[Bobby Boucher]

Duncan: 4

Kobe: 3

its ok because duncan backs up his ring count with actual quality performances in the playoffs as the man, unlike kobe who coattails bigmen

Daddy: 4

Kobe: 3:
again, no argument, shaq > kobe who coattailed him

Kobe: 5

the shit bag: 4

kobe doesn't back it up though, its like saying, horry 7 > jordan 6, or fisher 5 > duncan 4

your shtick has serious flaws, tbh

or more simply put, when those guys were winning the debate it was because their titles were all won as the man. kobes were not, therefore he doesn't get the benefit of being able to count rings.

[Stalin]

How's FDR doing, Stalin?

have no opinion on fdr
american front was a sideshow
the real action was in the east, where my glorious armies buttfucked the shit out of the nazis pigs, tbqh

[pass1st]

have no opinion on fdr
american front was a sideshow
the real action was in the east, where my glorious armies buttfucked the shit out of the nazis pigs, tbqh
http://chawedrosin.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/finland-afraid.jpg

[Venti Quattro]

Jordan is untouchable. That was already established, so I don't get the point of this article.

[Stalin]

http://chawedrosin.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/finland-afraid.jpg

finland, even more of a sideshow, tbh
despite their valiant efforts, they still lost
besides, russia has plenty of soldiers
what's a million dead to me?? :lol

[Venti Quattro]

:lol Hitler
:lol backstabbing Russia
:lol losing to Russia

[pass1st]

http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/attachments/f10/80813d1249623835-lenin-trotsky-stalin-dead-pics-stalin_dead.jpg

[Venti Quattro]

:lol France
:lol bukkaked by Hitler
:lol Paris
:lol open city

[Stalin]

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/750/stalinwithkids.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/stalinwithkids.jpg/)

[pass1st]

http://totallylookslike.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/stalin.jpg

[Stalin]

:lol nice one, brah


http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5051/stalint.gif (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/821/stalint.gif/)

[Stalin]

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9778/keanustalin.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/440/keanustalin.jpg/)

[ElNono]

http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/J-stalin-prenup.jpg

[Stalin]

sup nono, how you been, brah?

[ElNono]

sup nono, how you been, brah?

nothing... watching the game... having a bud... sup with you, scrah?

[Stalin]

nothing... watching the game... having a bud... sup with you, scrah?

:toast

[Spur_Fanatic]

No one in the right minds can compare Kobe to MJ.

[DMC]

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I don't give a shit how often it's been posted. It's fucking true.

[Giuseppe]

^Only VBM's panties sucking asshole loop & Wreck's late pool side leg sweep loop stand the test of time.

[pass1st]

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[DMC]

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A really piss poor montage of really worn out, predictable and "not funny then" jokes.

Way to shit on a classic.

[pass1st]

A really piss poor montage of really worn out, predictable and "not funny then" jokes.

Way to shit on a classic.

They both pretty accurately represent the community, but I understand your bias :wakeup