Did we overthrow gaddafi just to replace him with al qaeda?

[mavs>spurs]

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/11/did-we-overthrow-gaddafi-just-to-replace-him-with-al-qaeda.html

:lol "liberated"

[Winehole23]

Nevertheless, the appearance of the flag in other Arab countries is not necessarily evidence of growing support for al Qaeda or terrorist group's presence. It could just as easily be youth taking advantage of their newfound freedom to scare their elders, or repressed Salafis using the most shocking symbol possible to voice their anger in public. There is also an element of "Wish You Were Here" photography to many of the photos of the ISI's flag being unfurled around the Arab world and posted in jihadi forums. This is not to say that the appearance of the flags, particularly in protests, should be ignored. But more corroborating evidence is needed before hitting the panic button. http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/11/07/black_flag_al_qaeda

[boutons_deux]

:lol

kickass Americans scared shitless by a bunch of ragheads 1000s of miles away

[lefty]

:lol

[mavs>spurs]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8407047/Libyan-rebel-commander-admits-his-fighters-have-al-Qaeda-links.html

Libyan rebel commander admits his fighters have al-Qaeda links

Abdel-Hakim al-Hasidi, the Libyan rebel leader, has said jihadists who fought against allied troops in Iraq are on the front lines of the battle against Muammar Gaddafi's regime.




In an interview with the Italian newspaper Il Sole 24 Ore, Mr al-Hasidi admitted that he had recruited "around 25" men from the Derna area in eastern Libya (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/) to fight against coalition troops in Iraq. Some of them, he said, are "today are on the front lines in Adjabiya". Mr al-Hasidi insisted his fighters "are patriots and good Muslims, not terrorists," but added that the "members of al-Qaeda (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/) are also good Muslims and are fighting against the invader".

His revelations came even as Idriss Deby Itno, Chad's president, said al-Qaeda had managed to pillage military arsenals in the Libyan rebel zone and acquired arms, "including surface-to-air missiles, which were then smuggled into their sanctuaries".

Mr al-Hasidi admitted he had earlier fought against "the foreign invasion" in Afghanistan (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/), before being "captured in 2002 in Peshwar, in Pakistan (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/)". He was later handed over to the US, and then held in Libya before being released in 2008.

US and British government sources said Mr al-Hasidi was a member of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, or LIFG, which killed dozens of Libyan troops in guerrilla attacks around Derna and Benghazi in 1995 and 1996.


Even though the LIFG is not part of the al-Qaeda organisation, the United States military's West Point academy has said the two share an "increasingly co-operative relationship". In 2007, documents captured by allied forces from the town of Sinjar, showed LIFG emmbers made up the second-largest cohort of foreign fighters in Iraq, after Saudi Arabia.
Earlier this month, al-Qaeda issued a call for supporters to back the Libyan rebellion, which it said would lead to the imposition of "the stage of Islam" in the country.
British Islamists have also backed the rebellion, with the former head of the banned al-Muhajiroun proclaiming that the call for "Islam, the Shariah and jihad from Libya" had "shaken the enemies of Islam and the Muslims more than the tsunami that Allah sent against their friends, the Japanese".

[George Gervin's Afro]

LOL

ghadaffi sympathizers..

[mavs>spurs]

LOL

ghadaffi sympathizers..

lol al qaeda sympathizer

[George Gervin's Afro]

lol al qaeda sympathizer

did you cry when your hero died?

[Winehole23]

The presence of jihadists and former mujahideen amoung the rebels has been well known since the beginning of the NATO action. Their continued presence is unsurprising and frankly not very newsworthy IMHO.

[mavs>spurs]

did you cry when your hero died?

is this how you always act whenever you have no response to something :lol

so what do you think about the al qaeda presence in libya brah?

[mavs>spurs]

The presence of jihadists and former mujahideen amoung the rebels has been well known since the beginning of the NATO action. Their continued presence is unsurprising and frankly not very newsworthy IMHO.

Um so why the hell did we deliver the country to jihadists again?

[Winehole23]

Um so why the hell did we deliver the country to jihadists again?A few flags and a few shadowy connections to Al Qaeda in Iraq among the rebels don't amount to what you think they do.

[RandomGuy]

is this how you always act whenever you have no response to something :lol

so what do you think about the al qaeda presence in libya brah?

I think most non-partisan analysis that I have read give AQ a small chance of having power of any sort in whatever government comes out of the chaos.

Islamists will have some power, as religious fundamentalists do in any country.

Will Libya or its people allow AQ to use their country as a base of operations?

Not likely.

Many seem to underestimate the goodwill that NATO earned for helping overthrow Ghadafi. NATO did what AQ could not, and that fact is not lost on your average Mohammed on the street.

[RandomGuy]

A few flags and a few shadowy connections to Al Qaeda in Iraq among the rebels don't amount to what you think they do.

Bingo.

They do however, provide something for people who have a political ax to grind with the present administration to jump up and down about, not unlike 9-11 truthers seizing on "pull it" or similar.

It takes a LOT more evidence than a few nutjobs in a crowd to make a large scale political movement.

[boutons_deux]

MIC and its MSM enablers/defenders will always dream up the next boogeyman needing $100Bs for defense.

Panetta is already saying, if the Sooper Committee fails, any cuts to defense would be catastrophic, and Repugs are already agitating about exempting MIC from "across the board" cuts.

[cheguevara]

:lol "mission accomplished"

[Winehole23]

who said so?

[Winehole23]

no one in this thread has...are you talking to yourself, Che' ?

[cheguevara]

http://press.take88.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Bush_codpiece_debbc.jpg

[Winehole23]

relevance?

[Halberto]

titties

[Wild Cobra]

A few flags and a few shadowy connections to Al Qaeda in Iraq among the rebels don't amount to what you think they do.
True, but like I have said on the issue before, I hope I'm wrong, but Libya will become worse than it was.