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JohnnyMarzetti
11-21-2011, 04:10 PM
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201111210012

Not shocking news at all.

boutons_deux
11-21-2011, 04:24 PM
People watch Fox Repug Propaganda Network to have their ignorance confirmed and praised.

lefty
11-21-2011, 04:25 PM
No shit

TeyshaBlue
11-21-2011, 04:37 PM
lol...did you boneheads even read the link?:lmao

TeyshaBlue
11-21-2011, 04:38 PM
People watch Fox Repug Propaganda Network to have their ignorance confirmed and praised.

bots posting in this thread have their ignorance confirmed and praised.

hater
11-21-2011, 04:51 PM
lol...did you boneheads even read the link?:lmao

I did

"The results show us that there is something about watching Fox News that leads people to do worse on these questions than those who don't watch any news at all," he said.



it does not surprise me. They talk about Obama's birth certificate, to Oreilly's crappy book on Lincoln, to bashing democrats. They barely give a 5 min summary a day on what is actually going on in the news world.

the only one that gets my respect is that Greta chick. She not only smart, but sexy too, I bet she is an animal in bed

Winehole23
11-21-2011, 04:53 PM
Fairleigh Dickinson political science professor Dan Cassino stresses that because of the survey controls that were implemented, it's not true that Republicans in general were uninformed about current events. But rather it was specifically Fox viewers who scored poorly.

CosmicCowboy
11-21-2011, 04:55 PM
I did

"The results show us that there is something about watching Fox News that leads people to do worse on these questions than those who don't watch any news at all," he said.



it does not surprise me. They talk about Obama's birth certificate, to Oreilly's crappy book on Lincoln, to bashing democrats. They barely give a 5 min summary a day on what is actually going on in the news world.

the only one that gets my respect is that Greta chick. She not only smart, but sexy too, I bet she is an animal in bed

Do you not know that there is a difference between Fox NEWS and Fox opinion personalities? Try watching between 6 and 7 and telling us they don't cover the NEWS.

TeyshaBlue
11-21-2011, 04:57 PM
If you bothered to read the survey, you would've seen that the results are all over the place. "Just 47% of are able to identify the Occupy Wall Street protestors as predominately Democratic: 11% think they are Republicans. Viewers of cable news on MSNBC are most likely to think the protestors are Republicans. Watching the left leaning MSNBC news channel is associated with a 10 point increase in the likelihood of misidentifying the protestors."

Winehole23
11-21-2011, 04:57 PM
Do you not know that there is a difference between Fox NEWS and Fox opinion personalities? Try watching between 6 and 7 and telling us they don't cover the NEWS.What do they cover the other 23 hours?

CosmicCowboy
11-21-2011, 05:23 PM
What do they cover the other 23 hours?

I honestly don't watch them 24 hours a day and have no idea, I was just making the point that Fox NEWS (Shepard Smith and co.) is a quite good world news program. You should not confuse Fox OPINION/ENTERTAINMENT (O'Reilly, Hannity, etc.) with Fox NEWS.

George Gervin's Afro
11-21-2011, 05:30 PM
I honestly don't watch them 24 hours a day and have no idea, I was just making the point that Fox NEWS (Shepard Smith and co.) is a quite good world news program. You should not confuse Fox OPINION/ENTERTAINMENT (O'Reilly, Hannity, etc.) with Fox NEWS.

I think the point of the thread is to show that most fox bots can't tell the difference between the news and opinion shows..

Nbadan
11-21-2011, 06:08 PM
I think the point of the thread is to show that most fox bots can't tell the difference between the news and opinion shows..

Or fact and fantasy

CosmicCowboy
11-21-2011, 06:15 PM
Or fact and fantasy

You are certainly one of the forums leading experts on fantasy...

JayTheClown
11-21-2011, 06:19 PM
Do you not know that there is a difference between Fox NEWS and Fox opinion personalities? Try watching between 6 and 7 and telling us they don't cover the NEWS.

This
Shepperd Smith is a liberal isn't he?

CosmicCowboy
11-21-2011, 06:27 PM
This
Shepperd Smith is a liberal isn't he?

I wouldn't call him a raving liberal like Matthews or Maddow but he is damn sure balanced in his news presentation and doesn't favor one side over the other...it's pretty much...here are the facts, make your own decision...

greyforest
11-21-2011, 10:54 PM
Do you not know that there is a difference between Fox NEWS and Fox opinion personalities? Try watching between 6 and 7 and telling us they don't cover the NEWS.

"Us" sure as hell doesn't include anyone with a rational mind.

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/434/foxnews152b.jpg

FuzzyLumpkins
11-21-2011, 11:15 PM
Fox News is all about getting white men to worry about poor people and minorities and not about corporations and special interest. You watch their editorials for any amount of time and it becomes quite obvious.

Its been a long, long tradition in American as the southern planters used to do the same thing to the poor ass free farmers to insure their vote.

Lo and behold CC thinks unions and poor people are to problem AND thinks Fox News is actually fair and balanced. Its a fucking travesty.

RandomGuy
11-22-2011, 07:31 AM
If you bothered to read the survey, you would've seen that the results are all over the place. "Just 47% of are able to identify the Occupy Wall Street protestors as predominately Democratic: 11% think they are Republicans. Viewers of cable news on MSNBC are most likely to think the protestors are Republicans. Watching the left leaning MSNBC news channel is associated with a 10 point increase in the likelihood of misidentifying the protestors."

I did bother to read the survey.

The more slanted the editorial opinion, the worse the viewers did at answering questions correctly.

Fox news, having the most slanted editorial policies, generally did worse than other groups.

Not sure why you are getting all pissy over a manifestation of human nature. It is what it is. Confimation bias leads people to seek out things they already agree with, and the stronger the bias, the more likely they are to seek out things they already agree with.

admiralsnackbar
11-22-2011, 09:34 AM
I did bother to read the survey.

The more slanted the editorial opinion, the worse the viewers did at answering questions correctly.

Fox news, having the most slanted editorial policies, generally did worse than other groups.

Not sure why you are getting all pissy over a manifestation of human nature. It is what it is. Confimation bias leads people to seek out things they already agree with, and the stronger the bias, the more likely they are to seek out things they already agree with.
See: Conservapedia.

TeyshaBlue
11-22-2011, 11:23 AM
I did bother to read the survey.

The more slanted the editorial opinion, the worse the viewers did at answering questions correctly.

Fox news, having the most slanted editorial policies, generally did worse than other groups.

Not sure why you are getting all pissy over a manifestation of human nature. It is what it is. Confimation bias leads people to seek out things they already agree with, and the stronger the bias, the more likely they are to seek out things they already agree with.
You read the survey?:rollin
Media Matters (lolz) pins their headline on whether or not Fox viewers grok the Egyptian uprising. In the same survey MSNBC viewrs are less likely to correctly identify OWS players. Yet the OP focuses on Fox.

Not a problem? Of course not. *facepalm*
I also see that the fact that its a crap survey (Hint: Do any of the respondants get their
news from more than one platform?) seems to escape you as well. Thats OK too. Youre certainly not alone.

JoeChalupa
11-22-2011, 11:26 AM
I watch FoxNews for the hotties but MSNBC has some hotties too.

coyotes_geek
11-22-2011, 12:07 PM
You read the survey?:rollin
Media Matters (lolz) pins their headline on whether or not Fox viewers grok the Egyptian uprising. In the same survey MSNBC viewrs are less likely to correctly identify OWS players. Yet the OP focuses on Fox.

Not a problem? Of course not. *facepalm*
I also see that the fact that its a crap survey (Hint: Do any of the respondants get their
news from more than one platform?) seems to escape you as well. Thats OK too. Youre certainly not alone.

I don't need to read the survey to know that it agrees with my pre-determined opinion and is therefore completely accurate, scientific and un-biased.

MannyIsGod
11-22-2011, 12:14 PM
If you watch cable news much you're probably an idiot regardless of the channel of your choice. Bottom line in my book.

TeyshaBlue
11-22-2011, 01:40 PM
If you watch cable news much you're probably an idiot regardless of the channel of your choice. Bottom line in my book.

Troof.

Winehole23
11-22-2011, 01:43 PM
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The more you drive,the less intelligent you are

DarkReign
11-22-2011, 03:26 PM
If you watch cable news much you're probably an idiot regardless of the channel of your choice. Bottom line in my book.

We have a winner. The only news I watch is local news. Even then I have probably already read about it beforehand.

I was listening to NPR today (OOOOOO! Liberal boogeyman!) on the Diane Rehm show and one of her guests made a very good point about American politics in general.

Negotiation and compromise is impossible in this country because no side can even agree on the facts.

Intentionally so, IMO. Thats what FOX News and the liberal equivalent are out to do. Obscure the truth in partisan rhetoric and get as many people as possible on the screen all agreeing with one another.

When I watched cable news election coverage in 2008, I was incredibly tickled by the shear volume of people each network puts on the screen all at once. They would have 12 different people split into 3 rows of 4 across the screen. Literally, all of them just circle-jerk each other and the chosen party and never even feign impartiality.

That Americans fall for this is laughable and you must laugh, otherwise you'll just be upset all the time.

JohnnyMarzetti
11-22-2011, 03:31 PM
If you get your news from the web you are an idiot too. It is all biased in some form or fashion.

DarkReign
11-22-2011, 03:43 PM
If you get your news from the web you are an idiot too. It is all biased in some form or fashion.

Then I am an idiot.

FuzzyLumpkins
11-22-2011, 05:57 PM
If you get your news from the web you are an idiot too. It is all biased in some form or fashion.

if you cannot understand how written commentary is less inflammatory in general over the spoken word I really do not know what to tell you.

I prefer my news written and get videos of the events themselves. Watching a staged studio production is something completely different. I do not allow others to do my thinking for me. I only watch TV for sports and that is all recorded on a delay unless I am out and about.

Allowing Fox News spoonfeed you their demagoguery for hours on end is nothing like grabbing the CSM, National Review, Foreign Affairs, the Economist or any number of publication and deciding which articles you are going to read.

The web is not the uniform, commercialized and party-politicized piece of shit that cable news is.

Huey Freeman
11-22-2011, 06:20 PM
If you watch cable news much you're probably an idiot regardless of the channel of your choice. Bottom line in my book.

Stupidest shit I read in a long time. Like it matters if you get your news from a biased news channel or a biased news blog. :lol
Or do you think its better to go to sites like CNN.com:lol

Huey Freeman
11-22-2011, 06:23 PM
if you cannot understand how written commentary is less inflammatory in general over the spoken word I really do not know what to tell you.

I prefer my news written and get videos of the events themselves. Watching a staged studio production is something completely different. I do not allow others to do my thinking for me. I only watch TV for sports and that is all recorded on a delay unless I am out and about.

Allowing Fox News spoonfeed you their demagoguery for hours on end is nothing like grabbing the CSM, National Review, Foreign Affairs, the Economist or any number of publication and deciding which articles you are going to read.

The web is not the uniform, commercialized and party-politicized piece of shit that cable news is.

I have read hundreds of biased written commentary on the internet, and I have seen hundreds of unbiased news feeds on TV.

Whats your point?

Winehole23
11-22-2011, 07:19 PM
I was listening to NPR today (OOOOOO! Liberal boogeyman!) on the Diane Rehm showBest current events talk on radio. I'm unaware of any contenders.

FuzzyLumpkins
11-22-2011, 07:25 PM
I have read hundreds of biased written commentary on the internet, and I have seen hundreds of unbiased news feeds on TV.

Whats your point?

that you are much better rounded than those that get their news from one source?

I feel that television in terms of news is the worst of the worst as it pertains to commercialization. if you have indeed done as you have claimed you see a homogenization of what the major and cable news networks provide as their stories.

The go to the front pages of the publications that i just listed and look at the content. There is a lot more there. I also do not see the shit like Lohan and white girl killed overseas du jour shit like you see on CNN, Fox, NBC, CBS and the like. Its just the nature of the mediums themselves.

I get to activelyt participate in the news selection process when you read verus when you watch you are beholden to what they show you. I dnon't like people thinking for me much at all.

Huey Freeman
11-22-2011, 07:48 PM
that you are much better rounded than those that get their news from one source?

I feel that television in terms of news is the worst of the worst as it pertains to commercialization. if you have indeed done as you have claimed you see a homogenization of what the major and cable news networks provide as their stories.

The go to the front pages of the publications that i just listed and look at the content. There is a lot more there. I also do not see the shit like Lohan and white girl killed overseas du jour shit like you see on CNN, Fox, NBC, CBS and the like. Its just the nature of the mediums themselves.

I get to actively participate in the news selection process when you read verus when you watch you are beholden to what they show you. I don't like people thinking for me much at all.

I understand where your coming from, but to say an individual who gets majority of the news from TV news is somehow less informed then the people who obtains their news from internet blogs is absurd. News shows like "The FOX Report" can give you the same amount of information any internet blog can give you.

FuzzyLumpkins
11-22-2011, 08:21 PM
I understand where your coming from, but to say an individual who gets majority of the news from TV news is somehow less informed then the people who obtains their news from internet blogs is absurd. News shows like "The FOX Report" can give you the same amount of information any internet blog can give you.

Sorry but Fox Report is limited by if nothing else the time spot and the rate at which people can talk and be understood by the LCD. Compare that to the AP wire as a whole and its not even close.

For example http://www.ap.org/. Run a query on any subject and you are going ot get a hell of a lot more news on said subject versus a syndicated hour long TV show.

More importantly it requires more thought to go through the articles and you actually have to think to get the information.

Fox News spoonfeeds you so you don't have to think at all. You are even told what is important and what is not important. AP doesn't do that you have to decide for yourself. The latter is a much more responsible approach.

scott
11-23-2011, 01:10 AM
Best current events talk on radio. I'm unaware of any contenders.

Your really think so? I think Diane Rehm is a phenomenal reporter who can ask great questions... but really she sounds like she is about to die and is almost unintelligible sometimes. I think she needs to move into an off-air production role.

Winehole23
11-23-2011, 07:02 AM
Yeah, I really think so. I can get past the quavery voice.

boutons_deux
11-23-2011, 09:22 AM
Rehm's horrible voice is a difficult distraction to ignore.

Winehole23
11-23-2011, 09:25 AM
gfy, boutons. you're so trite.

boutons_deux
11-23-2011, 09:50 AM
"Sorry but Fox ... is limited "

... to whatever Repug/right-wing/xenophobe propaganda Murdoch's scumbag Roger Ailes wants to pimp.

DarkReign
11-23-2011, 11:11 AM
Yeah, I really think so. I can get past the quavery voice.

Same. She doesnt look that old, but she sounds like shes got one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.

DarrinS
11-23-2011, 11:30 AM
Your really think so? I think Diane Rehm is a phenomenal reporter who can ask great questions... but really she sounds like she is about to die and is almost unintelligible sometimes. I think she needs to move into an off-air production role.

Who?

DarkReign
11-23-2011, 03:44 PM
Who?

Unsurprising.

MannyIsGod
11-23-2011, 05:10 PM
Stupidest shit I read in a long time. Like it matters if you get your news from a biased news channel or a biased news blog. :lol
Or do you think its better to go to sites like CNN.com:lol

You watch 24 hours of cable news and ill access the internet for an hour and well see who comes out more informed. Factually informed.

MannyIsGod
11-23-2011, 05:10 PM
Unsurprising.

Lol

MannyIsGod
11-23-2011, 05:14 PM
I understand where your coming from, but to say an individual who gets majority of the news from TV news is somehow less informed then the people who obtains their news from internet blogs is absurd. News shows like "The FOX Report" can give you the same amount of information any internet blog can give you.

Lol oh really? Post a video of any fox report episode and I guarantee I will find far more technical and detailed info on its subject via blogs. I can't believe you had the nerve to post this after calling me stupid.

DarrinS
11-23-2011, 05:39 PM
Unsurprising.

Sorry, not an NPR fan. Good for insomnia though.

ChumpDumper
11-23-2011, 08:35 PM
Sorry, not an NPR fan. Good for insomnia though.Unsurprising.