Should the NBA give up on New Orleans?

[ElNono]

How long can they run that team thinking they can con some guy with money into buying in that shitty team?

tbh, it might be time to relocate to a better city like Kentucky and go from there.

Thoughts?

[DMC]

It should become a D league team. They have the talent required.

[ezau]

It should become a D league team. They have the talent required.

:lol:lol

[BRHornet45]

a better city like Kentucky



son Kentucky is a state.

The Hornets have over 10,000 season ticket holders and despite being the smallest market, they are far from the worst.

the Hornets turn over more revenue than six teams ...

Charlotte
Indiana
Minnesota
Memphis
Milwaukee
New Jersey

the Hornets turn over more profit than nine teams ...

Atlanta
Dallas
Denver
Charlotte
Indiana
Minnesota
New Jersey
Orlando
Sacramento


so if the NBA should "give up" on a team or two or three, then they should start with one of those top six first.

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2011/32/basketball-valuations-11_land.html

[ElNono]

Why u mad, son? It's clear that if they could turn a profit, there would be owners lining up to buy it.

Maybe it's the fact the arena could end up underwater at any given time. It's a risky investment, tbh.

[Jacob1983]

Vegas

[BRHornet45]

lol u mad at all the Duncan hate so you take it out on Hornets

the owners weren't lining up to buy the Hornets because for over a year everyone has known that a lockout could occur. that is the sole reason why minority owner Gary Chouest backed out almost a year ago. now that we are in the clear, the Hornets will have a new owner within the next month. watch

[ElNono]

Vegas

Now that's a sound proposition.

[ElNono]

lol u mad at all the Duncan hate so you take it out on Hornets

the owners weren't lining up to buy the Hornets because for over a year everyone has known that a lockout could occur. that is the sole reason why minority owner Gary Chouest backed out almost a year ago. now that we are in the clear, the Hornets will have a new owner within the next month. watch

:cry

[BRHornet45]

ElNono is ElMad tonight sons

[ElNono]

Don't know why Hornetfan gets so viciously mad. We're just talking business here.

[ElNono]

ElNono is ElMad tonight sons

Son, you're just brimming with madness... Calm down, the NBA is still running your team there...

[BRHornet45]

lol weak come back son. weak

[ElNono]

lol weak come back son. weak

lol son... Once you get past the rage, I'd like your honest, non-biased opinion...

Take your time though, I know this is a delicate topic for you.

[lefty]

It should become a D league team. They have the talent required.

:lmao

[BRHornet45]

lol son... Once you get past the rage, I'd like your honest, non-biased opinion...

Take your time though, I know this is a delicate topic for you.

lol son I already dropped the hot fire facts on you proving that the Hornets are far from being the worst team (financially) in the NBA. I provided you with hot fire facts that included a link to Forbes showing that there are at least 6 other teams below the Hornets who the NBA should consider "giving up on" if they are going to do so. Indiana would be my first choice simply because that is a state that likes to call themselves a "basketball state", yet the Pacers are consistently at the bottom in attendance and finances.

son the Hornets ownership situation came at a bad time because of the fear of a lockout. Not many billionaires out there want to invest $300M into a team when a lockout was very likely to happen right after their investment. Should Major League Baseball just give up on the Los Angeles Dodgers because of their ownership issue as well with them stepping in and taking over?

[ElNono]

^ Don't disagree that some other teams should be folded as well... But, at least those other teams have found an owner... Even the shitty Nets...

[BRHornet45]

son like I said... the lockout scared away the potential owners for the Hornets. Gary Chouest was days away from taking over majority ownership and then the oil spill happened (his business was affected by it) and the lockout talk started heating up. The Nets ownership is irrelevant mainly because that Russian dude bought them over 2 years ago before the lockout talk even began. Regardless now that the lockout talk is over, the Hornets will have an owner within the next month. watch.

[ElNono]

tbh, the NBA missed putting it out there on a fire sale last Black Friday, maybe they can do a Christmas sale package... Charlotte and New Orleans for the price of one...

[BRHornet45]

son I suggested craigslist to one of the coaches at a recent season ticket holder event.

[DMX7]

son Kentucky is a state.

The Hornets have over 10,000 season ticket holders and despite being the smallest market, they are far from the worst.

the Hornets turn over more revenue than six teams ...

Charlotte
Indiana
Minnesota
Memphis
Milwaukee
New Jersey

the Hornets turn over more profit than nine teams ...

Atlanta
Dallas
Denver
Charlotte
Indiana
Minnesota
New Jersey
Orlando
Sacramento


so if the NBA should "give up" on a team or two or three, then they should start with one of those top six first.

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2011/32/basketball-valuations-11_land.html

Over 10,000 season ticket holders? Why do their stands always look half empty everytime I see them on tv.

[BRHornet45]

Over 10,000 season ticket holders? Why do their stands always look half empty everytime I see them on tv.

probably because a lot of the rich folk with season tickets don't show up to many of the games. that is a common problem with all teams when the ticket holders in the lower bowl of arenas don't show up it looks bad on tv. some not so bad, but some are terrible like Miami.

[Giuseppe]

Everybody workin' Luva's invention.

:toast

[Pelicans78]

The Skunker and 8 in back to back years. Plus still having the TOSB on their team. LOL Spurs fans.

[Pelicans78]

And the Alamo Dome is still empty.

[Pelicans78]

The Hornets will also have a new lease deal as well. The team is not going anywhere.

[ElNono]

The Skunker and 8 in back to back years. Plus still having the TOSB on their team. LOL Spurs fans.

Why are you seething with madness son? We're talking Hornets here.
Spurs do have an ownership.

Will Capt West walking make it harder to sell the team?

Also, didn't the arena lease become void after not fulfilling the 14K+ attendance last season?

[Giuseppe]

78 is correct though, El. The Skunker and 8 in successive years coupled with TOSB ain't nothing to write home about.

Only my little buddy predicting the players would give the owners a jolly rogering trumps it.

[DMC]

And the Alamo Dome is still empty.
They don't play in the Alamo Dome.


So...

[ElNono]

78 is correct though, El. The Skunker and 8 in successive years coupled with TOSB ain't nothing to write home about.

Welcome back, Culby.


Only my little buddy predicting the players would give the owners a jolly rogering trumps it.

So what do you think about the Hornets? Should the NBA just pull the plug on them?

[Giuseppe]

They don't play in the Alamo Dome.


So...

D, serious as a heart attack.

You're so cute!

[Giuseppe]

Welcome back, Culby.



So what do you think about the Hornets? Should the NBA just pull the plug on them?

I never step on Luva's toes (it's his invention), + he wears those pointy slippers like the The Sheik used to wear in the squared circle.

[DMC]

78 is correct though, El. The Skunker and 8 in successive years coupled with TOSB ain't nothing to write home about.

Only my little buddy predicting the players would give the owners a jolly rogering trumps it.
Ending the legendary Forum and the legendary career of Phil Jackson on skunkers is worse than just picking one up along the way.

That's not going away.

[Giuseppe]

Ending the legendary Forum

After the 4, your proudest achievement.

Gosh.

[ElNono]

I never step on Luva's toes (it's his invention), + he wears those pointy slippers like the The Sheik used to wear in the squared circle.

I call dibs on this thread, tbh...

Welcome Culby.

[Giuseppe]

^No. This thread is Luva's invention. I'm his steward in legal matters of ownership and trademark issues.

[ElNono]

^No. This thread is Luva's invention. I'm his steward in legal matters of ownership and trademark issues.

Nope. This thread is all mine. Just like the Vietcong owned you.

[Giuseppe]

BS. Luva has all rights to the "New Orleans is a welfare team" event. I was there the day he invented it. I filed the copyright in Orange County. Afterward we went to Ralphs for lunch meat and pumpernickle. Sat under an active oil rig and made sandwiches.

[ElNono]

BS. Luva has all rights to the "New Orleans is a welfare team" event. I was there the day he invented it. I filed the copyright in Orange County. Afterward we went to Ralphs for lunch meat and pumpernickle. Sat under an active oil rig and made sandwiches.

This isn't a "New Orleans is a welfare team" event.

This is a serious discussion on the franchise future.

I own it. You're invited to add to it though.

[Giuseppe]

It's been drifting into the welfare end of things.

I was just checkin' assholes.

[ElNono]

It's been drifting into the welfare end of things.

I was just checkin' assholes.

So nothing to add to the topic?

[DMC]

After the 4, your proudest achievement.

Gosh.

Spin it.

[Giuseppe]

Spin it.

Bend over. I'll fuckin' spin it.

[DMC]

Bend over. I'll fuckin' spin it.

^ This is how you throw in the towel.

(cue towel/sex joke)

[Giuseppe]

^Yep. I capitulate.

[pass1st]

Real talk: Why not get some rich Chinaman to buy NOH? China loves NBA as much as USA does, tbh.

[GB20]

Real talk: Why not get some rich Chinaman to buy NOH? China loves NBA as much as USA does, tbh.

if that happen , they will move the team to china and take BRhornet45 with them :lol

[ElNono]

if that happen , they will move the team to china and take BRhornet45 with them :lol

They don't do zebras in China...

[GB20]

They don't do zebras in China...

but they do panda.

[ElNono]

Not only they can't find an owner, now they shit on the GM they hired to make the decisions...

lol Stern

[ChumpDumper]

lol Alamodome

[DMC]

They should hire FEMA to manage it.

[Pelicans78]

They should hire FEMA to manage it.

You're doing a heck of a job Brownie :bang

[Pelicans78]

Seriously, what's the point of rooting for a team if they can't make any major moves?

[ChumpDumper]

Seriously, what's the point of rooting for a team if they can't make any major moves?I didn't know what the point of rooting for a team that needed direct state subsidies and fake season ticket sales to exist in the first place.

[Pelicans78]

I didn't know what the point of rooting for a team that needed direct state subsidies and fake season ticket sales to exist in the first place.

Hard to argue with that, but college basketball is glorified intramurals and baseball doesn't start still April.

[LakerLanny]

Contract New Orleans, Charlotte, Toronto and the LA Clippers and no one would notice or care.

[Pelicans78]

Maybe the MLB should have contracted the Rangers as well.

[BRHornet45]

2011


Team Values

New Orleans Hornets: $285M
Charlotte Bobcats: $281M
Indiana Pacers: $269M
Memphis Grizzlies: $266M
Minnesota Timberwolves: $264M
Milwaukee Bucks: $258M


Total Revenue

New Orleans Hornets: $100M
Charlotte Bobcats: $98M
Indiana Pacers: $95M
Minnesota Timberwolves: $95M
Memphis Grizzlies: $92M
Milwaukee Bucks: $92M
New Jersey Nets: $89M


Operating Income

New Orleans Hornets: -$5.9M
Minnesota Timberwolves: -$6.7M
Atlanta Hawks: -$7.3M
Dallas Mavericks: -$7.8M
Sacramento Kings: -$9.8M
New Jersey Nets: -$10.2M
Denver Nuggets: -$11.7M
Indiana Pacers: -$16.9M
Charlotte Bobcats: -$20.0M
Orlando Magic: -$23.1M


The 5 Smallest Market Teams Compared

1. Utah Jazz - Revenue: $121M, Income: -$3.9M
2. New Orleans Hornets - Revenue: $100M, Income: -$5.9M
3. Charlotte Bobcats - Revenue: $98M, Income: -$20.0M
4. Milwaukee Bucks - Revenue: $92M, Income: -$2.0M
5. Memphis Grizzlies - Revenue: $92M, Income: -$2.6M

[ChumpDumper]

Maybe the MLB should have contracted the Rangers as well.Why? They are profitable.

[BRHornet45]

good job fixing your spelling Chump

[ChumpDumper]

good job fixing your spelling ChumpI omitted a word, genius.

[BRHornet45]

no you didn't. you misspelled it. don't try and lie.

[ChumpDumper]

no you didn't. you misspelled it. don't try and lie.No, and what would it matter? I misspell and mistype words all the time.

Sure does distract from your weak argument about the Rangers though. I'll grant you that.

[BRHornet45]

son what was it I said about the Rangers? damn you're just fucking up like crazy tonight!

[ElNono]

bump


the owners weren't lining up to buy the Hornets because for over a year everyone has known that a lockout could occur. that is the sole reason why minority owner Gary Chouest backed out almost a year ago. now that we are in the clear, the Hornets will have a new owner within the next month. watch

What happened son? Where are the owners lining up to buy the team?